Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Vitaly Tsaplin
Hi everyone, Does anyone try to do any scalability tests with wicket? How is it suitable for real world enterprise level applications? And the most important question: What are the design principals I should follow in order to turn my homemade application into a real, highly responsive and

Re: Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Vitaly Tsaplin
Hi Johan, Many thanks for your answer. A real world enterprise level app is usually about complex user interface and many many concurrent users at one time. When I told about real world applications I meant mostly a comparison with some other popular frameworks like JSF. It wasn't

Re: Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Johan Compagner
we have our own threadtest (see svn) to test scaling What is a real world enterprise level app? Is that about the complexitiy of the user inteface and the application itself? or is it that it is used by many many concurrent users at one time but the app is pretty simple? About design

Re: Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Johan Compagner
where is the complex JSF app that has many many concurrent users? Most of the time the more complex the app gets the less concurrent users it will have. Because those kind of complex apps are mostly targetted at a specific group of people. Where are for example Enterprise level apps just open on

Re: Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Vitaly Tsaplin
I am just looking at the number of job offers for JSF :) It's a lot! That demand means that there are a lot of development in JSF. On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is the complex JSF app that has many many concurrent users? Most of the time

Re: Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Thies Edeling
or it means that JSF development is a slow process and you need a lot of devs to meet a deadline ;) Vitaly Tsaplin wrote: I am just looking at the number of job offers for JSF :) It's a lot! That demand means that there are a lot of development in JSF. On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:38 AM,

Re: Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Martin Makundi
Wicket is just so much more efficient to code you do not need so many developers... 2008/3/17, Vitaly Tsaplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am just looking at the number of job offers for JSF :) It's a lot! That demand means that there are a lot of development in JSF. On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at

Re: Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Martin Makundi
For that you just need strict project managers with experience in JSF... ;) 2008/3/17, Thies Edeling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: or it means that JSF development is a slow process and you need a lot of devs to meet a deadline ;) Vitaly Tsaplin wrote: I am just looking at the number of job

Re: Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Martin Makundi
For all I know, wicket is free. 2008/3/17, Vitaly Tsaplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, I am not advocating JSF at all :) I agree with all you gays. Wicket is just like a fresh air in a web development. I am just trying to realize what is the price to pay for such a pleasure :) On Mon, Mar

Re: Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Igor Vaynberg
naah, man. jsf is not an enterprise ready framework. just look for struts jobs, there are like 30x more then jsf jobs. struts is the real enterprise-ready web framework. -igor On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Vitaly Tsaplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am just looking at the number of job

Re: Is wicket an efficient, enterprise level web framework?

2008-03-17 Thread Jonathan Locke
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