Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-03 Thread David Chang


Jeremy, thanks for your input. I don't quite understand the side note in your 
reply. For a large website such as Amazon to work, there should absolutely be 
different technologies/tiers, tuning, security, and other considerations. The 
basic question is whether a framework is up to that task and whether there is 
evidence in reality.

Still back to my original question, any there any large Wicket website out 
there? Wicket people have to face it, me too, if I am going to use it.


--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com wrote:

 From: Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com
 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 4:08 PM
 There are some large ones that have
 been mentioned on the mailing
 lists in the past - you can try searching Nabble - they may
 not be on
 that page.
 
 As a side note, I find it funny how everyone always
 compares their
 anticipated traffic with Amazon or eBay.  I worked at
 eBay for quite
 some time, and I know that you are not going to run either
 of those
 sites with any framework straight out of the box.  I'm
 not saying
 Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that no
 framework defaults
 to being made for that size.  Could eBay or Amazon use
 Wicket?  Sure,
 with the right techniques.  Could your website use
 it?  Yes, and
 probably much easier.  :)
 
 --
 Jeremy Thomerson
 http://www.wickettraining.com
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Changdavid_q_zh...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Martin, I looked at the list and it seems none of them
 meets what I said about large rich ui Wicket website. Likely
 I am ignorant. Please enlighten me. By large, I mean
 something similar or close to amazon.com or ebay.com that
 have a large number of concurrent users. Which Wicket
 website in your knowledge seems to the largest one?
 
  Thanks!
 
 
  --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
  Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket
 websites?
  To: users@wicket.apache.org
  Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM
 
  Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang:
 
  
   I am still learning Wicket. The more I read
 from
  Wicket in Action, the more I like
 it.
  
   From the book, I know that companies from
 startups to
  large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use
 Wicket for
  their projects, but I cannot find a list of
 specific larget
  internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could
 someone
  help?
  
   The backgound for this request is that we may
 use
  Wicket for a large highly-active website.
  maybe this helps:
  http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html
  mf
  
   Cheers!
  
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-02 Thread David Chang


Jeremy, thanks for your input. I don't quite understand the side note in your 
reply. For a large website such as Amazon to work, there should absolutely be 
different technologies/tiers, tuning, security, and other considerations. The 
basic question is whether a framework is up to that task and whether there is 
evidence in reality.

Still back to my original question, any there any large Wicket website out 
there? Wicket people have to face it, me too, if I am going to use it.


--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com wrote:

 From: Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com
 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 4:08 PM
 There are some large ones that have
 been mentioned on the mailing
 lists in the past - you can try searching Nabble - they may
 not be on
 that page.
 
 As a side note, I find it funny how everyone always
 compares their
 anticipated traffic with Amazon or eBay.  I worked at
 eBay for quite
 some time, and I know that you are not going to run either
 of those
 sites with any framework straight out of the box.  I'm
 not saying
 Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that no
 framework defaults
 to being made for that size.  Could eBay or Amazon use
 Wicket?  Sure,
 with the right techniques.  Could your website use
 it?  Yes, and
 probably much easier.  :)
 
 --
 Jeremy Thomerson
 http://www.wickettraining.com
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Changdavid_q_zh...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Martin, I looked at the list and it seems none of them
 meets what I said about large rich ui Wicket website. Likely
 I am ignorant. Please enlighten me. By large, I mean
 something similar or close to amazon.com or ebay.com that
 have a large number of concurrent users. Which Wicket
 website in your knowledge seems to the largest one?
 
  Thanks!
 
 
  --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
  Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket
 websites?
  To: users@wicket.apache.org
  Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM
 
  Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang:
 
  
   I am still learning Wicket. The more I read
 from
  Wicket in Action, the more I like
 it.
  
   From the book, I know that companies from
 startups to
  large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use
 Wicket for
  their projects, but I cannot find a list of
 specific larget
  internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could
 someone
  help?
  
   The backgound for this request is that we may
 use
  Wicket for a large highly-active website.
  maybe this helps:
  http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html
  mf
  
   Cheers!
  
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-02 Thread Igor Vaynberg
lets say the entire backend of amazon is written in wicket. would you
consider that to be a large application? how would you ever know that
it was written in wicket? people who work on projects like these do
not often go, or most times are not even allowed, to boast on some
public mailing list.

wicket is best suited for very complex uis, and such uis are not often
suited for public websites - whose mission is to make the experience
as simple as possible for the user. not saying that it cannot be done.

i think if this is some sort of a criteria for choosing a framework
you should probably go with servlets. there are some very very large
sites out there written in pure jsp and servlets. good luck.

-igor

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:57 AM, David Changdavid_q_zh...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Jeremy, thanks for your input. I don't quite understand the side note in your 
 reply. For a large website such as Amazon to work, there should absolutely be 
 different technologies/tiers, tuning, security, and other considerations. The 
 basic question is whether a framework is up to that task and whether there is 
 evidence in reality.

 Still back to my original question, any there any large Wicket website out 
 there? Wicket people have to face it, me too, if I am going to use it.


 --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com wrote:

 From: Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com
 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 4:08 PM
 There are some large ones that have
 been mentioned on the mailing
 lists in the past - you can try searching Nabble - they may
 not be on
 that page.

 As a side note, I find it funny how everyone always
 compares their
 anticipated traffic with Amazon or eBay.  I worked at
 eBay for quite
 some time, and I know that you are not going to run either
 of those
 sites with any framework straight out of the box.  I'm
 not saying
 Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that no
 framework defaults
 to being made for that size.  Could eBay or Amazon use
 Wicket?  Sure,
 with the right techniques.  Could your website use
 it?  Yes, and
 probably much easier.  :)

 --
 Jeremy Thomerson
 http://www.wickettraining.com




 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Changdavid_q_zh...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Martin, I looked at the list and it seems none of them
 meets what I said about large rich ui Wicket website. Likely
 I am ignorant. Please enlighten me. By large, I mean
 something similar or close to amazon.com or ebay.com that
 have a large number of concurrent users. Which Wicket
 website in your knowledge seems to the largest one?
 
  Thanks!
 
 
  --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
  Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket
 websites?
  To: users@wicket.apache.org
  Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM
 
  Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang:
 
  
   I am still learning Wicket. The more I read
 from
  Wicket in Action, the more I like
 it.
  
   From the book, I know that companies from
 startups to
  large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use
 Wicket for
  their projects, but I cannot find a list of
 specific larget
  internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could
 someone
  help?
  
   The backgound for this request is that we may
 use
  Wicket for a large highly-active website.
  maybe this helps:
  http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html
  mf
  
   Cheers!
  
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-02 Thread David Chang

Igor, thanks very much for your input and insight. I really mean it. 

All the best.


--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:35 PM
 lets say the entire backend of amazon
 is written in wicket. would you
 consider that to be a large application? how would you ever
 know that
 it was written in wicket? people who work on projects like
 these do
 not often go, or most times are not even allowed, to boast
 on some
 public mailing list.
 
 wicket is best suited for very complex uis, and such uis
 are not often
 suited for public websites - whose mission is to make the
 experience
 as simple as possible for the user. not saying that it
 cannot be done.
 
 i think if this is some sort of a criteria for choosing a
 framework
 you should probably go with servlets. there are some very
 very large
 sites out there written in pure jsp and servlets. good
 luck.
 
 -igor
 
 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:57 AM, David Changdavid_q_zh...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Jeremy, thanks for your input. I don't quite
 understand the side note in your reply. For a large website
 such as Amazon to work, there should absolutely be different
 technologies/tiers, tuning, security, and other
 considerations. The basic question is whether a framework is
 up to that task and whether there is evidence in reality.
 
  Still back to my original question, any there any
 large Wicket website out there? Wicket people have to face
 it, me too, if I am going to use it.
 
 
  --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com
  Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket
 websites?
  To: users@wicket.apache.org
  Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 4:08 PM
  There are some large ones that have
  been mentioned on the mailing
  lists in the past - you can try searching Nabble -
 they may
  not be on
  that page.
 
  As a side note, I find it funny how everyone
 always
  compares their
  anticipated traffic with Amazon or eBay.  I
 worked at
  eBay for quite
  some time, and I know that you are not going to
 run either
  of those
  sites with any framework straight out of the
 box.  I'm
  not saying
  Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that
 no
  framework defaults
  to being made for that size.  Could eBay or
 Amazon use
  Wicket?  Sure,
  with the right techniques.  Could your website
 use
  it?  Yes, and
  probably much easier.  :)
 
  --
  Jeremy Thomerson
  http://www.wickettraining.com
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Changdavid_q_zh...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
  
   Martin, I looked at the list and it seems
 none of them
  meets what I said about large rich ui Wicket
 website. Likely
  I am ignorant. Please enlighten me. By large, I
 mean
  something similar or close to amazon.com or
 ebay.com that
  have a large number of concurrent users. Which
 Wicket
  website in your knowledge seems to the largest
 one?
  
   Thanks!
  
  
   --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
  
   From: Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
   Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI
 Wicket
  websites?
   To: users@wicket.apache.org
   Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM
  
   Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David
 Chang:
  
   
I am still learning Wicket. The more
 I read
  from
   Wicket in Action, the
 more I like
  it.
   
From the book, I know that companies
 from
  startups to
   large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc.
 use
  Wicket for
   their projects, but I cannot find a list
 of
  specific larget
   internet rich UI websites coded with
 Wicket. Could
  someone
   help?
   
The backgound for this request is
 that we may
  use
   Wicket for a large highly-active
 website.
   maybe this helps:
   http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html
   mf
   
Cheers!
   
   
   
   
   
  
 
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-02 Thread Randy S.
For what it's worth, my employer is a large financial services organization
and we are considering switching to Wicket for all our major internal and
external development. I also have been disappointed while going through the
Wiki page that lists sites using Wicket. Many are not even in existence
anymore, and I saw no high volume sites.

This is not a complaint to anyone. Wicket is what it is, including the
community. My point is that despite the lack of (advertised) usage on high
volume sites, some of us are lurking and see lots of potential.

On Jul 2, 2009 2:16 PM, David Chang david_q_zh...@yahoo.com wrote:


Igor, thanks very much for your input and insight. I really mean it.

All the best.


--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?  To:
users@wicket.apache.org
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:35 PM

 lets say the entire backend of amazon  is written in wicket. would you 
consider that to be a la...


Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-02 Thread John Armstrong
I see 3 tiers of sites

Intranet : Low traffic / high functionality with a small audience and
the common wicket use case from what I can tell.

Mid-market : 5 million hits per day

Premium : The ebays and googles of the world.

No one stack can serve the Premium market but I instinctually think
that wicket can do well out of the box in the Mid-market as well if
we had just a bit more info about how people are scaling it in that
range.

John-

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Randy S.randypo...@gmail.com wrote:
 For what it's worth, my employer is a large financial services organization
 and we are considering switching to Wicket for all our major internal and
 external development. I also have been disappointed while going through the
 Wiki page that lists sites using Wicket. Many are not even in existence
 anymore, and I saw no high volume sites.

 This is not a complaint to anyone. Wicket is what it is, including the
 community. My point is that despite the lack of (advertised) usage on high
 volume sites, some of us are lurking and see lots of potential.

 On Jul 2, 2009 2:16 PM, David Chang david_q_zh...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Igor, thanks very much for your input and insight. I really mean it.

 All the best.


 --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?  To:
 users@wicket.apache.org
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:35 PM

 lets say the entire backend of amazon  is written in wicket. would you 
 consider that to be a la...


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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-02 Thread Igor Vaynberg
what makes you think you need any special tweaking or scaling in
wicket to handle that kind of load?

-igor

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:43 PM, John Armstrongsiber...@siberian.org wrote:
 I see 3 tiers of sites

 Intranet : Low traffic / high functionality with a small audience and
 the common wicket use case from what I can tell.

 Mid-market : 5 million hits per day

 Premium : The ebays and googles of the world.

 No one stack can serve the Premium market but I instinctually think
 that wicket can do well out of the box in the Mid-market as well if
 we had just a bit more info about how people are scaling it in that
 range.

 John-

 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Randy S.randypo...@gmail.com wrote:
 For what it's worth, my employer is a large financial services organization
 and we are considering switching to Wicket for all our major internal and
 external development. I also have been disappointed while going through the
 Wiki page that lists sites using Wicket. Many are not even in existence
 anymore, and I saw no high volume sites.

 This is not a complaint to anyone. Wicket is what it is, including the
 community. My point is that despite the lack of (advertised) usage on high
 volume sites, some of us are lurking and see lots of potential.

 On Jul 2, 2009 2:16 PM, David Chang david_q_zh...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Igor, thanks very much for your input and insight. I really mean it.

 All the best.


 --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?  To:
 users@wicket.apache.org
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:35 PM

 lets say the entire backend of amazon  is written in wicket. would you 
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-02 Thread John Armstrong
Nothing makes me think I can't but the point here is that nothing
makes me think I can ;)

I'll end up doing it at some point. it can't be helped, I've been wicketized.

John-

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Igor Vaynbergigor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote:
 what makes you think you need any special tweaking or scaling in
 wicket to handle that kind of load?

 -igor

 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:43 PM, John Armstrongsiber...@siberian.org wrote:
 I see 3 tiers of sites

 Intranet : Low traffic / high functionality with a small audience and
 the common wicket use case from what I can tell.

 Mid-market : 5 million hits per day

 Premium : The ebays and googles of the world.

 No one stack can serve the Premium market but I instinctually think
 that wicket can do well out of the box in the Mid-market as well if
 we had just a bit more info about how people are scaling it in that
 range.

 John-

 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Randy S.randypo...@gmail.com wrote:
 For what it's worth, my employer is a large financial services organization
 and we are considering switching to Wicket for all our major internal and
 external development. I also have been disappointed while going through the
 Wiki page that lists sites using Wicket. Many are not even in existence
 anymore, and I saw no high volume sites.

 This is not a complaint to anyone. Wicket is what it is, including the
 community. My point is that despite the lack of (advertised) usage on high
 volume sites, some of us are lurking and see lots of potential.

 On Jul 2, 2009 2:16 PM, David Chang david_q_zh...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Igor, thanks very much for your input and insight. I really mean it.

 All the best.


 --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?  To:
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 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:35 PM

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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-02 Thread Christopher L Merrill

Igor Vaynberg wrote:

what makes you think you need any special tweaking or scaling in
wicket to handle that kind of load?


I've got a bit of knowledge (not wicket-specific) in this area and the one
thing I can say for sure is: if there is a financial stake in the project,
then you should never assume it will scale.  The only way to know is to
test it up to (and past) the expected load level.

Chris


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Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-01 Thread David Chang

I am still learning Wicket. The more I read from Wicket in Action, the more 
I like it.

From the book, I know that companies from startups to large-size ones such as 
IBM, Amazon, etc. use Wicket for their projects, but I cannot find a list of 
specific larget internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could someone 
help?

The backgound for this request is that we may use Wicket for a large 
highly-active website. 

Cheers!


  

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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-01 Thread Martin Funk


Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang:



I am still learning Wicket. The more I read from Wicket in  
Action, the more I like it.


From the book, I know that companies from startups to large-size  
ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use Wicket for their projects, but I  
cannot find a list of specific larget internet rich UI websites  
coded with Wicket. Could someone help?


The backgound for this request is that we may use Wicket for a large  
highly-active website.

maybe this helps:
http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html
mf


Cheers!




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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-01 Thread David Chang


Martin, I looked at the list and it seems none of them meets what I said about 
large rich ui Wicket website. Likely I am ignorant. Please enlighten me. By 
large, I mean something similar or close to amazon.com or ebay.com that have a 
large number of concurrent users. Which Wicket website in your knowledge seems 
to the largest one?

Thanks!


--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com wrote:

 From: Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM
 
 Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang:
 
  
  I am still learning Wicket. The more I read from
 Wicket in Action, the more I like it.
  
  From the book, I know that companies from startups to
 large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use Wicket for
 their projects, but I cannot find a list of specific larget
 internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could someone
 help?
  
  The backgound for this request is that we may use
 Wicket for a large highly-active website.
 maybe this helps:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html
 mf
  
  Cheers!
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-01 Thread Jeremy Thomerson
There are some large ones that have been mentioned on the mailing
lists in the past - you can try searching Nabble - they may not be on
that page.

As a side note, I find it funny how everyone always compares their
anticipated traffic with Amazon or eBay.  I worked at eBay for quite
some time, and I know that you are not going to run either of those
sites with any framework straight out of the box.  I'm not saying
Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that no framework defaults
to being made for that size.  Could eBay or Amazon use Wicket?  Sure,
with the right techniques.  Could your website use it?  Yes, and
probably much easier.  :)

--
Jeremy Thomerson
http://www.wickettraining.com




On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Changdavid_q_zh...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Martin, I looked at the list and it seems none of them meets what I said 
 about large rich ui Wicket website. Likely I am ignorant. Please enlighten 
 me. By large, I mean something similar or close to amazon.com or ebay.com 
 that have a large number of concurrent users. Which Wicket website in your 
 knowledge seems to the largest one?

 Thanks!


 --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com wrote:

 From: Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM

 Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang:

 
  I am still learning Wicket. The more I read from
 Wicket in Action, the more I like it.
 
  From the book, I know that companies from startups to
 large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use Wicket for
 their projects, but I cannot find a list of specific larget
 internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could someone
 help?
 
  The backgound for this request is that we may use
 Wicket for a large highly-active website.
 maybe this helps:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html
 mf
 
  Cheers!
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?

2009-07-01 Thread Flying Dream
Jeremy,

 I know that you are not going to run either of those sites with any framework 
 straight out of the box.
 I'm not saying Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that no framework 
 defaults to being made for that size. 

Could you please elaborate on it? I am very interested.

TIA!


--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com wrote:

 From: Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com
 Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 4:08 PM

 There are some large ones that have been mentioned on the mailing
 lists in the past - you can try searching Nabble - they may not be on
 that page.
 
 As a side note, I find it funny how everyone always compares their
 anticipated traffic with Amazon or eBay.  I worked at eBay for quite
 some time, and I know that you are not going to run either of those
 sites with any framework straight out of the box.  I'm not saying
 Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that no framework defaults
 to being made for that size.  Could eBay or Amazon use Wicket?  Sure,
 with the right techniques.  Could your website use it?  Yes, and
 probably much easier.  :)
 
 --
 Jeremy Thomerson
 http://www.wickettraining.com
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Changdavid_q_zh...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
  Martin, I looked at the list and it seems none of them meets what I said 
  about large rich ui Wicket website. Likely I am ignorant. Please enlighten 
  me. By large, I mean something similar or close to amazon.com or ebay.com 
  that have a large number of concurrent users. Which Wicket website in your 
  knowledge seems to the largest one?
 
  Thanks!
 
 
  --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  From: Martin Funk mafulaf...@googlemail.com
  Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
  To: users@wicket.apache.org
  Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM
 
  Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang:
 
  
   I am still learning Wicket. The more I read from
  Wicket in Action, the more I like it.
  
   From the book, I know that companies from startups to
  large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use Wicket for
  their projects, but I cannot find a list of specific larget
  internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could someone
  help?
  
   The backgound for this request is that we may use
  Wicket for a large highly-active website.
  maybe this helps:
  http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html
  mf
  
   Cheers!
  
  
  
  
  
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