RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx file, should I report a bug?

2011-09-08 Thread Bruce Carlson
e-letter wrote: Solution #1: Send back an xls version of that file and ask them to exchange spreadsheets in that format. Better still, send in ods and ask the recipient to use LO. If the suggestion is declined, buy m$o. When minor incompatibility is discovered between m$ hardware and

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread Bruce Carlson
-Original Message- From: At0mic [mailto:atomicbutterfl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 3:57 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ? I notice some people are talking about Thunderbird and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
Looks like we have an M$ fanboy. Perhaps U should try some of those opensource recommendations first and see if they don't perform before taking a side I migrated from Outlook to thunderbird (it now comes with Lightning on Fedora). I have my calender, tasks and mails working fine and I'm sure

[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 08/09/11 04:13, Steven Shelton a écrit : Hi Steve, Sorry, but this works for me on Mac OSX with 3.4.3, so I can not reproduce the crash. I suspect you may have a corrupt user configuration or else the problem is Windows specific. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Calculated fields not showing decimal places in BASE query

2011-09-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 07/09/11 18:34, John Mullen a écrit : Hi John, SELECT 1.00, CONTRACTS.Rental FROM CONTRACTS this returns 1.00150 Any idea why? IMHO, this could be either a bug in the LibO SQL parser, or maybe the TYPE converter (jni_uno2java.cxx type converter that handles conversion of

[libreoffice-users] Re: Calculated fields not showing decimal places in BASE query

2011-09-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 07/09/11 18:34, John Mullen a écrit : Hi John, SELECT 1.00, CONTRACTS.Rental FROM CONTRACTS this returns 1.00150 Any idea why? OK, I tested further and this is IMHO a bug. With SQL preprocessing on, i.e. the default LibO behaviour, if your decimal has figures after the

[libreoffice-users] Re: Portuguese language pack

2011-09-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 06/09/11 22:27, Antonio Sousa a écrit : Hi Antonio, Hello I had a problem trying to install portuguese language pack for libreoffice 3.4 on MacOsX Lion. When i try to run the installer it stops abruptelly. The solution was to install the Brazilian language pack that run correctly. Does

[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx file, should I report a bug?

2011-09-08 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 08.09.2011 00:07, e-letter wrote: Would be interested to hear your explanation why other m$ formats are _not_ against the interests of LO (i.e. increased _visible_ usage of odt. Using LO to write m$ formats should be considered invisible usage, of what benefit exactly?). If not for

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx file, should I report a bug?

2011-09-08 Thread e-letter
On 07/09/2011, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: ... Now that ODF 1.2 does have an agreed specification for formulas and requires that to be used in fully-conforming ODF 1.2 Spreadsheet documents, we will see how implementations line up as there are releases from everyone that

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx file, should I report a bug?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) This thread has gone waaay off-topic. Continuing with that = this wikipedia guide might be interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization#Criticism I think the question that started this thread has been solved but i'm not completely certain.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Portuguese language pack

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Running from the command-line often generates some output that can be copypasted in emails quite easily and might help understand what is going wrong. Sometimes it's possible to ask the command to be --verbose which gives more output. Regards from Tom :)

[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc stops refreshing formula halway down the spreadsheet

2011-09-08 Thread Ant Christy
Unfortunately due to the information in the file I cannot post a link to it. It is in xls format. I've also received another example of a completely different spreadsheet doing the same thing. It is also an xls file, however this time the formula doesn't make it halfway through before it stops

[libreoffice-users] spell checker?

2011-09-08 Thread Spencer Graves
Hello: I've been unable to install spell checkers with LibreOffice under Windows 7. Tools - Options - Language Settings - Writing Aids shows NO available language modules. Tools - Extension Manager produced a list of 43 available extensions. I select one and click Add. This

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tanstaafl
What the heck was that??? (top-posted because there is no way to make sense of the quoted text) On 2011-09-07 9:53 PM, Keith Bates ke...@new-life.org.au wrote: On 08/09/11 11:29, Don Myers wrote:Reply below:On 09/07/2011 08:02 PM, NoOp wrote:For those that continue to insist on top

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-09-07 9:29 PM, Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote: I will respect your wishes about posting at the bottom. It isn't about 'posting at the bottom' - it is about trimming your post to only quote the relevant portion of the text you are responding to, and placing each response (if you

Re: [libreoffice-users] spell checker?

2011-09-08 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi, On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello:      I've been unable to install spell checkers with LibreOffice under Windows 7.      Tools - Options - Language Settings - Writing Aids shows NO available language modules.  Tools - Extension Manager produced a list of 43

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Top posting is fine. Almost everyone top-posts except some people in a few OpenSource mailing lists. If you need to communicate with anyone that works in an office then you probably have to top-post otherwise they will probably just ignore your email and delete it without reading it.

Re: [libreoffice-users] spell checker?

2011-09-08 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
On 09/08/2011 07:47 AM, Manfred J. Krause wrote: Hi, On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: I've been unable to install spell checkers with LibreOffice under Windows 7. Tools - Options - Language Settings - Writing Aids shows NO available language

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx file, should I report a bug?

2011-09-08 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
On 09/08/2011 01:22 AM, At0mic wrote: e-letter wrote: Solution #1: Send back an xls version of that file and ask them to exchange spreadsheets in that format. Better still, send in ods and ask the recipient to use LO. If the suggestion is declined, buy m$o. When minor incompatibility is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi gary, NoOp wrote (08-09-11 02:02) For those that continue to insist on top posting on the LO lists: please consider bottom posting with interspersed replies. I think it is useful to have some clear examples (pictures from mails/ threads) that simply show how good mailing practices can be

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx file, should I report a bug?

2011-09-08 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
On 09/08/2011 02:38 AM, Bruce Carlson wrote: e-letter wrote: Solution #1: Send back an xls version of that file and ask them to exchange spreadsheets in that format. Better still, send in ods and ask the recipient to use LO. If the suggestion is declined, buy m$o. When minor incompatibility

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
For long threads, scrolling down to the bottom to read the new stuff is a pain. But if you want to top post, or bottom post, to each his own. On 09/08/2011 08:13 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Top posting is fine. Almost everyone top-posts except some people in a few OpenSource mailing lists.

Re: [libreoffice-users] spell checker?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Renaming is better than deleting. With deleting you lose everything and can't copy back some chunks from your old folder so you have to re-do any configurations and re-download all extensions, fonts and anything else you have in galleries and so on. Regards from Tom :)

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 04:29 AM, Don Myers wrote: I live in the US. I do a lot of work e-mails in my job, and receive a lot of work e-mails. I never receive any e-mails where people reply to me at the bottom. Because people you talk with read bottum-up. And it's not a country custom, just a matter of

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 06:37 AM, toki wrote: Intermixed posting was the US standard. That changed when: * AOL allowed its members on the Internet; * Microsoft released its email client that made intermixed posting virtually impossible for non-techies. Agreed. -- RMA. -- For unsubscribe instructions

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 02:44 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: laziness vs spending a few extra seconds intelligently crafting your responses. That's the point: people are lazy and dont wan to mess with trimming and formatting their answer. But they want the recipient to read carefully what they wrote. Crazy.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 03:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Top posting is fine. Bottom posting is fine. Almost everyone top-posts except some people in a few OpenSource mailing lists. If you need to communicate with anyone that works in an office then you probably have to top-post otherwise they will

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 03:45 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: For long threads, scrolling down to the bottom to read the new stuff is a pain. Because your correspondants did not trim the message, as I just did for yours: I just select the line I want to answer and click on reply. It

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It's all good :) Err, are the virtual-desktops like the work-spaces in GnuLinux? Trying to work without them is really frustrating. Usb-sticks do tend to be slower than hard-drives so there will be a performance hit. I think increased speed is why some sticks are so ridiculously

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Chris Morgan
I'm with you Don, - see below - On 08/09/2011 02:29, Don Myers wrote: Reply below: On 09/07/2011 08:02 PM, NoOp wrote: For those that continue to insist on top posting on the LO lists: please consider bottom posting with interspersed replies. I realiz(s)e that the existing:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Dave Sergeant
On 8 Sep 2011 at 8:45, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: For long threads, scrolling down to the bottom to read the new stuff is a pain. But if you want to top post, or bottom post, to each his own. This list seems to suffer from long sections of quoted text with sometimes just

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Do you know which version of java you use? Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Java Versions _24 and onwards are increasingly bad for LibreOffice. The _20 and _22 are quite good but the _21 seems the fastest and best. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS currently ships with _20. On GnuLinux it quite easy to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx file, should I report a bug?

2011-09-08 Thread Chris Morgan
e-letter wrote: Solution #1: Send back an xls version of that file and ask them to exchange spreadsheets in that format. Better still, send in ods and ask the recipient to use LO. If the suggestion is declined, buy m$o. When minor incompatibility is discovered between m$ hardware and software,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Don C. Myers
On 09/08/2011 07:44 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Nothing to do with countries - only to do with laziness vs spending a few extra seconds intelligently crafting your responses. Thank you!! -- *~~* Don C. Myers e-PRO Certified by the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Often you already know roughly what is going on and only need to read the latest post. Sometimes people might need quick easy access to previous comments and a quick scroll downwards can help them gain context if they can't quite remember some detail. This list should allow people

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx file, should I report a bug?

2011-09-08 Thread Marcello Romani
Il 08/09/2011 14:35, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions ha scritto: On 09/08/2011 01:22 AM, At0mic wrote: e-letter wrote: Solution #1: Send back an xls version of that file and ask them to exchange spreadsheets in that format. Better still, send in ods and ask the recipient to use LO.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-09-08 9:11 AM, Chris Morgan ch...@lynxinfo.co.uk wrote: I can see some of the advantages of bottom-posting, but it does mean a lot more scrolling to get to the meat of the message. I get so tired of this totally lame and purposefully ignorant excuse. You only have to scroll if the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Really?  Personal insults?  Here?? Over the past few months there has been a steadily increasing amount of top-posting.  It is not just one or 2 people.  Outside of LibreOffice and OpenSource everyone else uses top-post almost exclusively.  Smart phones make it difficult to post any

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Chris Morgan
You only have to scroll if the person who is replying *blindly* quotes the *entire* *message*, rather than - as *all* top/inline posting advocates suggest - trimming the quoted text to only what is relevant to provide context to your reply. You and Tom Davies simply ignore that - so what

[libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/8/11 6:45 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: For long threads, scrolling down to the bottom to read the new stuff is a pain. But if you want to top post, or bottom post, to each his own. It seems to me, an inherent problem with this kind of free for all in posting styles

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-08, Tanstaafl wrote: What the heck was that??? (top-posted because there is no way to make sense of the quoted text) I... guess it was some serious Thunderbird misconfiguration? Or maybe it's written in Quenya... (replied exactly below the question it's supposed to address, just

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 04:24 PM, Dave Sergeant wrote: For long threads, scrolling down to the bottom to read the new stuff is a pain. But if you want to top post, or bottom post, to each his own. This list seems to suffer from long sections of quoted text with sometimes just a single line of new

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 04:11 PM, Chris Morgan wrote: Professional emails are almost always top posted, which is easier to read in the preview window of email readers. What??? https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/8/30/120 Linux kernel Mailing list would be a non professional? Given all the big companies

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 04:11 PM, Chris Morgan wrote: I can see some of the advantages of bottom-posting, but it does mean a lot more scrolling to get to the meat of the message. Again, what the problem with trimming the message, just as I did? Please tell. -- RMA. -- For unsubscribe instructions

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-08, Dave Sergeant wrote: On 8 Sep 2011 at 8:45, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: [...] I am told by the way that top posting is far preferable to disabled people using reading aids, as they hardly want all the old stuff spoken by their machine before they get to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 04:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote: This list should allow people to use what they are familiar with rather than try to alienate new users surely? I dont agree with you. -- RMA. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Tom, On 9/8/11 6:13 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Top posting is fine. Almost everyone top-posts except some people in a few OpenSource mailing lists. If you need to communicate with anyone that works in an office then you probably have to top-post otherwise they will probably just ignore your

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-08, Tom Davies wrote: On 09/08/2011 04:29 AM, Don Myers wrote: I live in the US. I do a lot of work e-mails in my job, and receive a lot of work e-mails. I never receive any e-mails where people reply to me at the bottom. Because people you talk with read bottum-up. And it's not

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-08, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-09-07 9:29 PM, Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote: I live in the US. I do a lot of work e-mails in my job, and receive a lot of work e-mails. I never receive any e-mails where people reply to me at the bottom. The reply is always at the top. That

[libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/8/11 7:33 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Often you already know roughly what is going on and only need to read the latest post. If you're following only one thread/subthread in the messages, and have been able to keep up. :-D But I follow a lot of things, in a lot of places, and I often have

[libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/8/11 8:03 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Over the past few months there has been a steadily increasing amount of top-posting. It is not just one or 2 people. Outside of LibreOffice and OpenSource everyone else uses top-post almost exclusively. Smart phones make it difficult to post any other

[libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/8/11 8:20 AM, Chris Morgan wrote: In most cases top-posting is preferable. However, in this 'list' environment, bottom-posting and selective quoting works better for retaining context. However, we cannot enforce this without alienating the very people this list is aimed at (ie everyone), so

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread jebw...@gmail.com
It has never ceased to amaze me how a select few individuals in key positions in corporations are permitted to form a self-sustaining interlocked stance on the use of MS Office suite due to their inability to accept they are able learn other ways of conducting business. MS Office has been

[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - Record Macro

2011-09-08 Thread Jeff Hahn
I recently downloaded LibreOffice 3.4.3 and an having a problem with the “Record Macro” command. According to the instructions both at the “Help” command and in the written documentation available at LibreOffice.org, the “Record Macro” command is available for both Writer and Calc at Tools -

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-08, Tom Davies wrote: Outside of LibreOffice and OpenSource everyone else uses top-post almost exclusively. Last time I went to USENET, people were still actively bottom-posting (interleaved). At least excluding Google Groups posts, which I filter. (Google Groups is the cultural

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 05:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote: I think the core problems of this dilemma of where to post is lack of education, and lack of enforcement of the rules. Oh Ken, thay got education! but the kind of education saying: Well, let's quickly reply: the correcpondant will always understand

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 05:03 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Really? Personal insults? Here?? If polite explanations are not enough, why not... -- RMA. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 09/08/2011 05:20 PM, Chris Morgan wrote: People are lazy - get used to it. I do. But get used o me always reminding then. In most cases top-posting is preferable No. -- RMA. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] spell checker - add Spanish+French+German to English?

2011-09-08 Thread Spencer Graves
Thanks very much to Manfred Krause, webmaster for Kracked Press, and Tom Davies: Removing (or renaming) .../bundled worked. Next question: How can I add Spanish, French and German as optional languages? I used to be able to specify them for selections of text; now I don't see

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - Record Macro

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There is a chapter about Macros in the Getting Started Guide and a more advanced chapter specific to Calc in the Calc Guide http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation It's also worth looking in the External Links on that page for the book by Andrew Pitonyak.  I don't know why the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO MailingList Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
Sorry, this is another top-post. I agree totally but you need to give people benefit of doubt too (like in my case ... I'm mobile and the mail app on this phone is hardcoded to push all quotes below the reply) Otherwise, I do bottom posts when I'm my desktop/laptop

[libreoffice-users] Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Dave Sergeant
I use Pegasus Mail and view the posts threaded, which by and large works excellently. No need to quote lots in mails as it is very easy to locate the original mails. But Pegasus Mail truncates subject lines, as displayed in folder views, to 35 characters, something that will be changed in a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 I would really like [LO-Users] because it's more descriptive but the main thing is getting it shorter.  I tried asking in the steering-discuss list ages ago but the feeling was that it was important to avoid shortening the name because we really needed to get the full name out there as

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing ListGuidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
Okay, I just saw this after responding in similar manner shortly. At least someone understands. I wish my phone doesn't always expect me to use the browser just to comply with demands for bottom posts. Otherwise, ... This reply would have been at the bottom with the irrelevant phrases snipped

[libreoffice-users] Alternative to Outlook

2011-09-08 Thread jorge
Hi I'm using Evolution and it has e-mail, contacts, shedule, jobs and notes. I think it is a complete program for business and for personal use. The only think that I would think improve is that notified with sound and message to the screen when it's time to do something (jobs for

[libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/8/11 9:31 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 09/08/2011 05:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote: I think the core problems of this dilemma of where to post is lack of education, and lack of enforcement of the rules. Oh Ken, thay got education! but the kind of education saying: Well, let's

Re: [libreoffice-users] Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-08, Dave Sergeant wrote: I use Pegasus Mail and view the posts threaded, which by and large works excellently. No need to quote lots in mails as it is very easy to locate the original mails. But Pegasus Mail truncates subject lines, as displayed in folder views, to 35

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - Record Macro

2011-09-08 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-08, Tom Davies wrote: On Thu, 8/9/11, Nuno J. Silva nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt wrote: On 2011-09-08, Jeff Hahn wrote: I recently downloaded LibreOffice 3.4.3 and an having a problem with the “Record Macro” command. When   I boot the program up and click on Tools - Macros on the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It is great to hear that the portable apps uses a fairly normal folder.  I had assumed they hid  them in some horribly compressed file on an almost unreachable path.  So, this means that a LibreOffice installed on a hard-drive could be made to point at the same config folder on the

[libreoffice-users] Re: Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/8/11 10:02 AM, Dave Sergeant wrote: I use Pegasus Mail and view the posts threaded, which by and large works excellently. No need to quote lots in mails as it is very easy to locate the original mails. But Pegasus Mail truncates subject lines, as displayed in folder views, to 35

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Again, not just 1 email client.  It affects mine too and probably countless others too.  I think being incompatible or awkward with other systems is very arrogant.  We don't need to restrict people and tell them what they can and can't use.  That sort of behaviour is exactly why i moved

[libreoffice-users]

2011-09-08 Thread Jeff Hahn
The suggestion of Nuno J. Silva to activate the Enable experimental features appears to have do the trick for me. Thanks. Jeff Hahn Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:03:01 +0100 From: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - Record Macro To:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Downloading templates from Open Office's website

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/20/11 10:57 AM, JOE Conner wrote: On 8/20/2011 3:17 AM, Ken Springer wrote: After a lot of plain dumb luck, I was able to finally get the extensions I wanted. All 2of them! LOL Other than LO and OOo, are there any other places on the web that anyone knows of that have a collection of

[libreoffice-users] Re: Downloading templates from Open Office's website

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/20/11 8:50 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: On 08/20/2011 06:10 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/20/11 1:27 PM, NoOp wrote: On 08/20/2011 09:57 AM, JOE Conner wrote: On 8/20/2011 3:17 AM, Ken Springer wrote: After a lot of plain dumb luck, I was able to finally get the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:50:53 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: Hello Ken, Personally, I don't think it's LibreOffice's responsibility to address the shortcomings and limitations of other software products. They already do, by prep-ending the subject with [libreoffice-users]. --

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Interspersing or bottom-posting ensures that every message needs to be scrolled through unless people delete all the stuff that is irrelevant (in their opinion, which 'might not' be the same as the opinion of the person reading).  Top posting means that most emails can be read without any

[libreoffice-users] Re: Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Dave Sergeant
On 8 Sep 2011 at 17:42, Nuno J. Silva wrote: Wait, how is pegasus doing threading? Threading should not need the subject for anything, and just rely on the References and In-reply-to headers. Check if there's somehow a way to enable that kind of threading in your client (although one

[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc stops refreshing formula halway down the spreadsheet

2011-09-08 Thread Tom
Hi :) Have you managed to find a good answer to this yet? I think there was another thread about soemthing very similar but there haven't been many posts in this thread. Apols and regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Base - form table grid new record on top

2011-09-08 Thread ncreamer
I hate to ask this question b/c it seems like something I should be able to figure out...but how do I set up the save button you referenced? I can add a button control but don't know how to assign it save or to make it a default. I'm guessing the execute action under Events for the control is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-09-08 12:02 PM, Dave Sergeant d...@davesergeant.com wrote: Net result is that there are very few characters left out of the 35 to accurately thread on, and I get all sorts of totally different things threaded together. Ummm... Any email client that displays threads based on SUBJECT

[libreoffice-users] Re: Base - form table grid new record on top

2011-09-08 Thread Tom
Hi :) I think the Save button is just the normal one on the tool-bar just under the menu-bar? Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Base-form-table-grid-new-record-on-top-tp3314448p3320507.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at

[libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-08 11:14 AM Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Interspersing or bottom-posting ensures that every message needs to be scrolled through unless people delete all the stuff that is irrelevant (in their opinion, which 'might not' be the same as the opinion of the person reading). Top posting

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-09-08 1:18 PM, Dave Sergeant d...@davesergeant.com wrote: Yes, there are two ways of threading. No, there isn't, there is only one (standardized) way. Pegasus chooses to do it purely from the subject line, and is unlikely to change. Then it will continue to be a seriously BROKEN

Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-09-08 11:32 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 09/08/2011 05:03 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Really? Personal insults? Here?? If polite explanations are not enough, why not... Rotflmao! Someone gets it... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/8/11 10:55 AM, Tom Davies wrote: We don't need to restrict people and tell them what they can and can't use. We aren't telling people what they can and can't use. We are telling people what the finished product needs to look like. How they get there is up to them. :-) It's like

[libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/8/11 11:37 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-09-08 11:14 AM Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Interspersing or bottom-posting ensures that every message needs to be scrolled through unless people delete all the stuff that is irrelevant (in their opinion, which 'might not' be the same as the opinion of

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Subject lines - another gripe...

2011-09-08 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-08, Dave Sergeant wrote: On 8 Sep 2011 at 17:42, Nuno J. Silva wrote: Wait, how is pegasus doing threading? Threading should not need the subject for anything, and just rely on the References and In-reply-to headers. Check if there's somehow a way to enable that kind of

[libreoffice-users] Re: Base - form table grid new record on top

2011-09-08 Thread Andreas Säger
The big button in the first form of http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/download/file.php?id=2879 is an ordinary push button belonging to the additional Genres form with action=save record and DefaultButton=Yes... no, in fact it is No but you can set it to Yes so it saves the form when

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) No, he didn't.  He just showed that he has not read any of the posts yet as his arguments are already countered in previous posts. Besides it doesn't matter how strong the argument against top-posting might be.  The fact is that it is widely used especially by office workers.  Do we

[libreoffice-users] Re: CALC 3.4.3 - Column headers are screwed up :-(

2011-09-08 Thread Tom
Hi :) I have cheekily uploaded the attachment you sent me. There didn't appear to be any issue of confidentiality so i hope it's ok? http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3320651/Image4.jpg Image4.jpg The issue does look VERY weird and unusual. Hopefully someone might have a good answer

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Nuno J. Silva
-sigh- let's see if I can get this attribution thing fixed... gnus-outlook-deuglify-article couldn't process this message On 2011-09-08, Tom Davies wrote: On Thu, 8/9/11, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 9/8/11 11:37 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-09-08 11:14 AM Tom Davies wrote:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-08 12:10 PM Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) No, he didn't. He just showed that he has not read any of the posts yet as his arguments are already countered in previous posts. Bullshit. You continually do not show the proper attribution in the posts you reply to. You have not countered

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Downloading templates from Open Office's website

2011-09-08 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
On 09/08/2011 01:07 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/20/11 8:50 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: On 08/20/2011 06:10 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/20/11 1:27 PM, NoOp wrote: On 08/20/2011 09:57 AM, JOE Conner wrote: On 8/20/2011 3:17 AM, Ken Springer wrote: After a lot of plain

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I use a standard email client in a standard way set on it's defaults.  There are likely to be more people using such systems as LibreOffice becomes more popular.  Hold onto your hats! Why are people in here so determined to make things unpleasant and difficult for normal office workers? 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-09-08 2:10 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: No, he didn't. He just showed that he has not read any of the posts yet as his arguments are already countered in previous posts. Coming from you - someone who pretends that top posting advocates advocate blindly top-posting,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-09-08 2:58 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Why are people in here so determined to make things unpleasant and difficult for normal office workers? Why should 'normal office workers' be exempt from general rules of common courtesy? Sorry, Tom, you're a lazy ass, and a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-08, Tom Davies wrote: On 2011-09-08, Tom Davies wrote: Besides it doesn't matter how strong the argument against top-posting might be.  The fact is that it is widely used especially by office workers.  I use a standard email client in a standard way set on it's defaults.  There

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Don C. Myers
Hi to all, Some of you have convinced me to use top posting, since it is better. Some of you have convinced me to use bottom posting, since it is better. Some of you have convinced me to do snipping, since it is better. Obviously there isn't a black and white solution. *My Big Concern* here

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Look, the interspersed answers from Larry are practically unidentifiable from the message.  By posting at the top (or bottom) it would have been clearer which were your answers.  Sometimes interspersing becomes possible if i notice the other persons response is in a different colour but

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 8/9/11, Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote: From: Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page? To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 8

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