[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:48:09 +, I wrote: Still awaiting news of what other LO users on Mandriva report. One fellow Mandriva user reports: Decided to logout and then re-login using every other window manager available with Mandriva 2010.2. The only time that the LO Open/Save option appears is when I load Gnome! So LO is taking real-time steps to avoid showing the option when detecting use of certain desktops (e.g. KDE) in certain distributions (e.g. Debian, Mandriva). Perhaps it has had problems with it in those areas in the past, so now omits it rather than defaulting it to 'off'. -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On 01/23/2012 07:52 AM, Maurice Batey wrote: On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:48:09 +, I wrote: Still awaiting news of what other LO users on Mandriva report. One fellow Mandriva user reports: Decided to logout and then re-login using every other window manager available with Mandriva 2010.2. The only time that the LO Open/Save option appears is when I load Gnome! So LO is taking real-time steps to avoid showing the option when detecting use of certain desktops (e.g. KDE) in certain distributions (e.g. Debian, Mandriva). I already confirmed when I wrote: I just switched to a KDE session (different user, but same LO install), and sure enough: no 'Open/Save 'Use LO dialogs''. Perhaps it has had problems with it in those areas in the past, so now omits it rather than defaulting it to 'off'. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:25:20 -0800, NoOp wrote: already confirmed Our postings seemed to have crosssed on the wires... -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
Hi :) If it's the Mandriva builds then would it be best to file against Mandriva? http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mandriva It seems weird they removed the option. Perhaps they put it somewhere else, hopefully close by? DistroWatch is a good place to compare different distros and to get useful links. https://qa.mandriva.com/ I didn't want to create an account there because i don't use Mandriva but even so i was able to do a search for LibreOffice. https://qa.mandriva.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=content=LibreOffice Only 26 results and didn't seem to include the one in this thread. Apparently Mageia is a a drop-in replacement for Mandriva and neatly avoids the constant political turmoil, uncertainties and struggles that Mandriva manages to pull itself through. Both are beautiful distros well worth trying. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 22/1/12, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 January, 2012, 4:48 On 01/21/2012 10:37 AM, Maurice Batey wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:42:25 +, I wrote: --- LibreOffice 3.4.5 OOO340m1 (Build:502) Installed on 2 PC's here (both running Mandriva 2010.2. Neither shows that Open/Save option. I'd file a bug report. It sounds as if the Mandriva builds are missing that option while other debian based distro's do. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport or easier: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
Hi :) That tiny url link took me to an openSUSE forum. Most distros do work in very much the same way as each other so it's quite valid to do that but generally it's best to stick to the dedicated forum. For Mandriva the official forum (i got this from the DistroWatch site) is http://forum.mandriva.com/en/ Mageia is very close to Mandriva so asking at https://forums.mageia.org/ might be good too. There are general forums that tend to have sections for each different major distro. I found this was the best although i didn't try many as i got good answers fast enough from http://www.linuxquestions.org Even questions about distros that it doesn't seem to officially support do get answers. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 22/1/12, Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk wrote: From: Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 January, 2012, 12:48 On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:48:04 -0800, NoOp wrote: I'd file a bug report. It sounds as if the Mandriva builds are missing that option while other debian based distro's do. Still awaiting news of what other LO users on Mandriva report. There is some interesting discussion on the option here: http://tinyurl.com/7aoe3bf Perhaps the Mandriva LO RPM omits it if the user has KDE? Or could it be that some LO 'Open/Save' files are missing, so LO omits the option? -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
Am 22.01.2012 17:35, Maurice Batey wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:47:10 +, I wrote: I shall enquire in the Mandriva newsgroup. No response yet from anyone using 3.4.5, but: 1 Mandriva user of LO 3.4.4 reports 'not there', whereas 1 MageiaIS there! Under Ubuntu my desktop environment provides the dialogs unless I choose the office dialogs explicitly. Under a xterm session with no desktop environment loaded it falls back to the built-in dialogs. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On 01/22/2012 12:26 PM, NoOp wrote: ... One other odd thing I noticed; when attempting to show hidden files with Ctrl-h, Help comes up instead. Checking Help (F1) brings up help in KompoZer... very odd IMO. Why on earth would Help come up in an HTML editor? Further, it comes up in Design mode to boot. Reinstalled: libobasis3.4-en-us-help_3.4.5-502_i386.deb and now Help displays normally. Odd, I'll uninstall that package later to see if it behaves the same. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:15:44 -0800, NoOp wrote: Mine is 3.4.5 from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ - deb files. LibreOffice 3.4.5 OOO340m1 (Build:502) Where did you get yours from? http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ (Mandriva RPMs) --- LibreOffice 3.4.5 OOO340m1 (Build:502) -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:42:25 +, I wrote: --- LibreOffice 3.4.5 OOO340m1 (Build:502) Installed on 2 PC's here (both running Mandriva 2010.2. Neither shows that Open/Save option. -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
Am 21.01.2012 18:47, Maurice Batey wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:31:14 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: might well be related to KDE or your distribution :-) I can't begin to imagine how the missing option could be due to using KDE, but of course as I use the 'Mandriva' download file there is always the possiblity that somehow the Mandriva download has a fault in it. I shall enquire in the Mandriva newsgroup. Well, they don't call it fault. They call it desktop integration. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On 01/21/2012 10:37 AM, Maurice Batey wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:42:25 +, I wrote: --- LibreOffice 3.4.5 OOO340m1 (Build:502) Installed on 2 PC's here (both running Mandriva 2010.2. Neither shows that Open/Save option. I'd file a bug report. It sounds as if the Mandriva builds are missing that option while other debian based distro's do. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport or easier: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:31:39 -0800, NoOp wrote: Tools|Options|General|- untick Open/Save 'Use LO dialogs Using LO 3.4.5, when I select Tools/Options/General, I do not see anything like that - just: HELP: Tips, Help Agent, Extended Tips, Reset help Agent DOCUMENT STATUS: Printing set, Allow to save doc even if not mod..., YEAR: Interpret as years between... ENABLE EXPERIMENTAL... - i.e. no sign of /Open/Save 'Use LO dialog. Was I looking in the wrong place? -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
Hi :) I think Tools - Options - LibreOffice - General is the right place. It's a bit weird that the first section in the left-hand panel in that pop-up is LibreOffice. It kinda makes sense after you have played around with the different options but at first it seems weird. Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 20/1/12, Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk wrote: From: Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 13:08 On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:31:39 -0800, NoOp wrote: Tools|Options|General|- untick Open/Save 'Use LO dialogs Using LO 3.4.5, when I select Tools/Options/General, I do not see anything like that - just: HELP: Tips, Help Agent, Extended Tips, Reset help Agent DOCUMENT STATUS: Printing set, Allow to save doc even if not mod..., YEAR: Interpret as years between... ENABLE EXPERIMENTAL... - i.e. no sign of /Open/Save 'Use LO dialog. Was I looking in the wrong place? -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:31:39 -0800, NoOp wrote: Tools|Options|General|- untick Open/Save 'Use LO dialogs. Then OK. Now when you are in the primary directory, just right click the directory window and select 'Show Hidden Files'. None of that in my LO 3.4.5! But I've just looked at OpenOffice 3.2.1 and all that *is* there.. (To show hidden files, need to click on the Option button top right.) -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On 01/20/2012 07:44 AM, Maurice Batey wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:53:54 +, Tom Davies wrote: Tools - Options - LibreOffice - General is the right place. Well, when I said: when I select Tools/Options/General, I do not see anything like that... - it did of course map out - as you say - to Tools - Options - LibreOffice - General, which showed the same bunch of options I described - none of which bore any resemblance to NoOp's untick Open/Save 'Use LO dialogs! (Can't find that anywhere...) Are we all using the same version of LO (mine's 3.4.5)?! Yes. Mine is 3.4.5 from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ - deb files. LibreOffice 3.4.5 OOO340m1 (Build:502) Where did you get yours from? Screenshot here: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/screenshotoptionslibreo.png/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:08:53 +, I wrote: Using LO 3.4.5, when I select Tools/Options/General, I do not see anything like that - just: HELP: Tips, Help Agent, Extended Tips, Reset help Agent DOCUMENT STATUS: Printing set, Allow to save doc even if not mod..., YEAR: Interpret as years between... ENABLE EXPERIMENTAL... - i.e. no sign of /Open/Save 'Use LO dialog. - as can be seen in this photo: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10969499/LO-tools-general.JPG -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
Maurice Batey wrote (20-01-12 20:17) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10969499/LO-tools-general.JPG Hmm, might well be related to KDE or your distribution :-) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:58:51 -0800, Mark wrote: You should be able to import the templates using the File-Templates-Organize, then right click on the folder into which you want to import and select Import. The problem with that is that Import does not show 'hidden' directories (i.e. those whose name is prefixed with a .), and OpenOffice's .ooo3 directory is one of those. Perhaps LO should be a little more helpful in this respect. -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
Maurice Batey wrote (19-01-12 20:12) The problem with that is that Import does not show 'hidden' directories (i.e. those whose name is prefixed with a .), and OpenOffice's .ooo3 directory is one of those. You can type the dot in the field. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
Hi :) How about just copypasting the UserProfile form OOo to LO? http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=12426 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 19/1/12, Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk wrote: From: Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 19 January, 2012, 19:12 On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:58:51 -0800, Mark wrote: You should be able to import the templates using the File-Templates-Organize, then right click on the folder into which you want to import and select Import. The problem with that is that Import does not show 'hidden' directories (i.e. those whose name is prefixed with a .), and OpenOffice's .ooo3 directory is one of those. Perhaps LO should be a little more helpful in this respect. -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On 01/19/2012 11:12 AM, Maurice Batey wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:58:51 -0800, Mark wrote: You should be able to import the templates using the File-Templates-Organize, then right click on the folder into which you want to import and select Import. The problem with that is that Import does not show 'hidden' directories (i.e. those whose name is prefixed with a .), and OpenOffice's .ooo3 directory is one of those. Perhaps LO should be a little more helpful in this respect. LO is. Tools|Options|General|- untick Open/Save 'Use LO dialogs. Then OK. Now when you are in the primary directory, just right click the directory window and select 'Show Hidden Files'. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
On 11/30/2010 09:59 AM, Maurice Batey wrote: Is there a way to import such things as templates and general settings from OpenOffice Writer to LO Writer? (E.g. copying certain files over) Would be nice to avoid having to construct them all over again. You can copy ~/./openoffice/3 to ~/./libreoffice/3. First move the existing settings to a backup file: $ mv ~/.libreoffice/3/ ~/.libreoffice/3.back Then copy the OOo settings to LO: $ cp -R ~/.openoffice.org/3/ ~/.libreoffice/3/ If you run into any issues, you can always move ~/.libreoffice/3.back to ~/.libreoffice/3. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
