Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe

[Brad Rogers]

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Most organisations have instructions in the footer of any and all emails
they send.  It usually involves using a slightly different email address,
often with the word "unsubscribe" in the address, rather than simply using
"Reply to".  The Document Foundation are no different. At the bottom of all
LibreOffice emails it says;
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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
To unsubscribe please send an email to the special address;
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Note that many email clients change that from a clickable link to an edited
one that doesn't work.  It needs you to make sure the bit before the plus
sign and the bit afterwards are both included.

It doesn't matter what, if anything, you put in the subject-line or the
message as neither gets read by the automated system.

Full instructions are on the official website on this page;
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe

[Mark Bourne]

juliejohn scott wrote:

Please unsubscribe me now (if you can) because I have had my question answered 
and my e-mails are becoming excessive.Happy Christmas,John Scott.


We're just other users, helping each other, and don't have access to 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
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Regards from
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe

[Cley Faye]

And since some people do have difficulties to unsubscribe, consider this:
- You have to send the mail *from* the address you used to subscribe, even
if you redirect your mail afterward
- You have to send the mail *to* users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org,
the + part is important. Some (bad) client mangle it, or skip part of the
address when you click. In doubt, type it by hand, it's the only way to be
sure :)

Also note that it his possible to unsubscribe from the list and subscribe
to a digest version, that produce less mails and allow oneself to follow
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2014-12-18 18:24 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com:

 Hi :)
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 Regards from
 Tom :)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
If you didn't get Mark's post then you succeeded :)
Regards from
Tom :)

On 18 December 2014 at 18:17, Mark Bourne 
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 juliejohn scott wrote:

 Please unsubscribe me now (if you can) because I have had my question
 answered and my e-mails are becoming excessive.Happy Christmas,John Scott.


 We're just other users, helping each other, and don't have access to
 unsubscribe you. You'll need to do that yourself, following the
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe

[James Knott]

Nicholas Micalone wrote:
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This should be at the bottom of the messages

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Annoyingly in my email 'client' the address 


users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org

is shown looking like 


unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org

is the email address and the users+ as being some strange extra bit that is 
not really part of the address.  I'm guessing that happens with some other 
email 'clients' that are in common usage these days.  The users+ part is an 
important part of the address so it really needs to be the entire line

users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org

Also it's fairly rare to find a signature that is actually helpful.  Mostly we 
get so used to completely ignoring useless disclaimers and hopeful messages 
about having been scanned by some embarrassingly ancient antivirus them that we 
don't even bother to read even the good ones.  


Regards from 

Tom :)  







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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe
 

Nicholas Micalone wrote:
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This should be at the bottom of the messages

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe

[James Knott]

Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Annoyingly in my email 'client' the address 


 users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org

 is shown looking like 


 unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org

 is the email address and the users+ as being some strange extra bit that is 
 not really part of the address.  I'm guessing that happens with some other 
 email 'clients' that are in common usage these days.  The users+ part is an 
 important part of the address so it really needs to be the entire line

 users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org

 Also it's fairly rare to find a signature that is actually helpful.  Mostly 
 we get so used to completely ignoring useless disclaimers and hopeful 
 messages about having been scanned by some embarrassingly ancient antivirus 
 them that we don't even bother to read even the good ones.  



In my email app, users+ is shown as part of the address.

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I would like to unsubscribe; kindly send details. Thanx, n.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Please try the instructions in this link
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Good luck and regards from 
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Subject: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
These instructions might help you unsubscribe

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

Good luck and regards from
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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Christian Sweningsen]

Tom,

I appreciate the attempt to help. I read through to see if I had 
missed anything in previous attempts to unsubscribe, but I had not.


I have half-a-dozen attempts in my Sent file, but have never 
received a confirmation notice. Yes, have checked both Junk and Grey 
Mail,


Christian


On 12/21/2012 6:46 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
These instructions might help
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

Good luck and regards from
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Subject: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe



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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Christian Sweningsen]

That must have been the needed magic; confirmation received, so excpect 
unsubscribe successful. Can now subscribe to the digest format,


Christian



On 12/22/2012 6:18 PM, Christian Sweningsen wrote:

Tom,

I appreciate the attempt to help. I read through to see if I had 
missed anything in previous attempts to unsubscribe, but I had not.


I have half-a-dozen attempts in my Sent file, but have never 
received a confirmation notice. Yes, have checked both Junk and 
Grey Mail,


Christian


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Hi :)
These instructions might help
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Hi :)
Brilliant!  Nicely dislodged!  

I keep forgetting about the digest method.  The one i keep considering is using 
the nomail option and then using Nabble to follow certain  threads and avoid 
others
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/

Anyway, good to hear success at last!  
Regards from
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Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2012, 0:04
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe
 
That must have been the needed magic; confirmation received, so excpect 
unsubscribe successful. Can now subscribe to the digest format,

Christian



On 12/22/2012 6:18 PM, Christian Sweningsen wrote:
 Tom,
 
     I appreciate the attempt to help. I read through to see if I had missed 
anything in previous attempts to unsubscribe, but I had not.
 
     I have half-a-dozen attempts in my Sent file, but have never received 
a confirmation notice. Yes, have checked both Junk and Grey Mail,
 
         Christian
 
 
 On 12/21/2012 6:46 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 These instructions might help
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 
 Good luck and regards from
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Hi :)
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Hi :)
This link might help
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but sorry to see you go chap!
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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Florian Effenberger]

Hello,

Michael Smith wrote on 2012-08-16 00:33:

unsubscribe


I tried to unsubscribe you manually, but the @yahoo.com address you used 
to write this message is not subscribed to the list. Do you maybe use an 
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Hi Florian :)

We normally try to fix the problem on-list before contacting you. 
Usually people just need a gentle nudge towards the documentation in
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Hello,

Michael Smith wrote on 2012-08-16 00:33:
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I tried to unsubscribe you manually, but the @yahoo.com address you used to 
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Hello,

in order to improve the wording of the unsubscribe instructions, could 
you please tell us where you had the problems and what step did not work 
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When you write to the users+h...@global.libreoffice.org you'll receive a 
mail for instructions on how to subscribe and unsubscribe, and the 
unsubscribe addresses differ depending on whether you have a normal 
subscription (you receive each mail individually and without delay), or 
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You will then receive another mail, asking for confirmation of the 
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able to figure out that you had to send another mail to the appropriate 
unsubscribe address, after receiving the automatic reply?


We also link to a handy page with all information about unsubscribing, 
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You were now manually removed from the list, but nevertheless we'd be 
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Thanks,
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Hi :)
This guide migth help you unsubscribe
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On Tuesday 21 February 2012 18:57:02 Luther Fant wrote:
 
Luther - the unsubscribe information are at the bottom of each mail sent to 
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Dear Collective Brains Trust,

Having upgraded from LO3.4 to 3.5, I find my recent documents folder to 
be unavailable.  I found this thread 
[http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg16880.html] but it 
is dealing with a PC installation.  I'm running a Macbook Pro with OS 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:32:02 + (GMT)
Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hello Tom,

 Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
 one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be about

Yes, but as Mark says, you /still/ have to go to the website to do
that.  I'm not doing that 70 or so times a day.  Life's way too short.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

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On 19/01/2012 at 10:58, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 A proper official forum such as most modern projects use (Firefox, Fedora,
 Ubuntu, Mint and so on and on) would neatly avoid all sorts of recurring
 problems.  But of course we have to stick with some ancient system that
 makes the project look like something pre-Win95.  Even Arch has forums
 ffs.

I think that Tom has a point here. Mailing lists were around for really long 
time and they are pretty convenient for people who are used to them. But most 
of computer/Internet users these days are not. They like simple web interface 
of bulletin boards software (also called forums). They can't configure their 
e-mail software (even most web interfaces provide needed features) to move all 
traffic from specific source (mailing list) into separate folder. I think that 
they are just overwhelmed by whole new experience with mailing list. And this 
causes frustration...

I know there is that Nabble gateway, but it seems that there may be two 
problems with it (I don't know if any is valid, since I don't use it):

1. registered people still get mails from mailing list, although they prefer 
to check for new messages themselves on webpage.

2. It is too hidden. On page http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-
lists/ classic mailing lists are exposed, while Nabble gateway is only 
mentioned. Perhaps this page should focus on Nabble gateway, while classic 
mailing lists addresses should be only mentioned (maybe moved to another 
page?). People who would like to use mailing lists would find info they need, 
while inexperienced users would not be bothered by whole mailing lists stuff, 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:02:09 +0100
Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl wrote:

Hello Mirosław,

 of computer/Internet users these days are not. They like simple web
 interface of bulletin boards software (also called forums). They
 can't configure their 

It really is a lot easier via email.  I subscribe to 70 or so mailing
lists.  If they were all web forums, I'd have gone mad by now going
from web site to web site, logging in, finding any and all new messages,
reading those of interest, then marking everything else as unread.

Yes, a bit of configuration has to be done to filter list mail
appropriately in my MUA but after that's done, I hit *ONE* button and
*everything* is delivered and sorted.  Peace of piss, as we say around
here.

I really don't have the time to run around the abortion that web forums
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Hi :)
Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to one, many 
or all threads in the forum so the net result would be about the same for you.  
It would just reduce the amount of complex stuff that less sophisticated users 
would have to do in order to see answers to the one-and-only thread they are 
interested in.  
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk
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To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 11:46

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:02:09 +0100
Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl wrote:

Hello Mirosław,

 of computer/Internet users these days are not. They like simple web
 interface of bulletin boards software (also called forums). They
 can't configure their 

It really is a lot easier via email.  I subscribe to 70 or so mailing
lists.  If they were all web forums, I'd have gone mad by now going
from web site to web site, logging in, finding any and all new messages,
reading those of interest, then marking everything else as unread.

Yes, a bit of configuration has to be done to filter list mail
appropriately in my MUA but after that's done, I hit *ONE* button and
*everything* is delivered and sorted.  Peace of piss, as we say around
here.

I really don't have the time to run around the abortion that web forums
are.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Mark Stanton]

 Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe
 to one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
 about the same for you.

It really isn't the same.  You've got to go to the forum to see what the 
conversation is to then subscribe to a thread.  All the time.  And even if it 
does email you about messages in a thread, you have to go to the forum to 
reply, 
and sometimes to view the message too.  A mailing list delivers it all to your 
own mailbox and then you can have your evil way with it there.

I'm not arguing against changing to forums (although I'm not very keen on them 
for the same reasons that Brad puts forward), I'm just reiterating that they 
REALLY are very different in the way one interacts with them.

Regards
Mark Stanton
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
It sounds as though you haven't tried Launchpad forums.  You might have to 
register to really see what i mean
https://launchpad.net/
Click on one of the projects down the right-hand-side.  Then somewhere on the 
right click on Answers to get to their forums.

I agree that many forums are not set-up like that.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 20/1/12, Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk wrote:

From: Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 14:50

 Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe
 to one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
 about the same for you.

It really isn't the same.  You've got to go to the forum to see what the 
conversation is to then subscribe to a thread.  All the time.  And even if it 
does email you about messages in a thread, you have to go to the forum to 
reply, 
and sometimes to view the message too.  A mailing list delivers it all to your 
own mailbox and then you can have your evil way with it there.

I'm not arguing against changing to forums (although I'm not very keen on them 
for the same reasons that Brad puts forward), I'm just reiterating that they 
REALLY are very different in the way one interacts with them.

Regards
Mark Stanton
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Tanstaafl]

On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.


Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...

Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in 
many different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of 
repository.


That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd 
like to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs 
asked on the lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an 
answer to one specific question...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[drew]

On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 13:34 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
  Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
  one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
  about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
  stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
  answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.
 
 Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...
 
 Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in 
 many different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of 
 repository.
 
 That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd 
 like to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs 
 asked on the lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an 
 answer to one specific question...
 


Well, hoping this can put an end to this twist in the thread, and to
save Florian from having to say it.

There is an AskBot web service being readied for service in the very
near future (can't give you a date, as I don't know it), and would
strongly urge people preferring a web forum to give this service a
reasonable try.

I first looked at this type of service sceptically, but I put a fair bit
of time to really look at it and the more I dug into it the more
attractive it became. I'm not saying it will make everyone happy but I
think it deserves very serious consideration.

//drew

ps there is a test instance of the software up, but it seems rather
broken at the moment..so if you don't already have the URL I'll pass on
posting it to this email.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Hmm, oddly in Launchpad forums you can respond by email.  You get an email from 
the forum and the email contains exactly what was typed into the forum.  Then 
you can respond by email just by clicking Reply to.  

Of course it does have problems of it's own but it's easier for first timers 
that are new to this non-telephone support.  It's more polite and doesn't spam 
people that only wanted to deal with 1 thread.  You can easily add yourself to 
the list of people that receive those emails whenever anyone posts anything to 
the forum.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 20/1/12, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 18:34

On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
 one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
 about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
 stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
 answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.

Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...

Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in many 
different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of repository.

That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd like 
to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs asked on the 
lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an answer to one 
specific question...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Sorry for double-posting yet again :(

This list does have 2 very distinctly different purposes 
1.  as user-support 
2.  as a discussion list
Clearly people are having trouble with this list when they need it for 1 but 
many of us enjoy it for 2.  

Perhaps an official user-support forum at Launchpad could send emails to the 
discussion list?
Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 18:34

On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
 one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
 about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
 stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
 answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.

Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...

Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in many 
different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of repository.

That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd like 
to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs asked on the 
lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an answer to one 
specific question...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[drew]

On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 19:13 +, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Sorry for double-posting yet again :(
 
 This list does have 2 very distinctly different purposes 
 1.  as user-support 
 2.  as a discussion list
 Clearly people are having trouble with this list when they need it for 1 but 
 many of us enjoy it for 2.  

Or you could stop using this list as a general discussion board and use
it for what it was intended, user support.

There is a discussion list for the other - so please try to use the
correct list for the intended purpose - that would go a long, long way
also.

//drew

 
 Perhaps an official user-support forum at Launchpad could send emails to the 
 discussion list?
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
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 From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 18:34
 
 On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
  Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
  one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
  about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
  stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
  answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.
 
 Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...
 
 Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in many 
 different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of repository.
 
 That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd like 
 to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs asked on 
 the lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an answer to one 
 specific question...
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Tom Davies]

HI :)
Ahh, you mean use it for what it's rubbish at and don't use it for the thing it 
is good at.  Great plan!
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 20/1/12, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:

From: drew d...@baseanswers.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 19:32

On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 19:13 +, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Sorry for double-posting yet again :(
 
 This list does have 2 very distinctly different purposes 
 1.  as user-support 
 2.  as a discussion list
 Clearly people are having trouble with this list when they need it for 1 but 
 many of us enjoy it for 2.  

Or you could stop using this list as a general discussion board and use
it for what it was intended, user support.

There is a discussion list for the other - so please try to use the
correct list for the intended purpose - that would go a long, long way
also.

//drew

 
 Perhaps an official user-support forum at Launchpad could send emails to the 
 discussion list?
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 --- On Fri, 20/1/12, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 
 From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 18:34
 
 On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
  Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
  one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
  about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
  stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
  answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.
 
 Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...
 
 Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in many 
 different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of repository.
 
 That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd like 
 to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs asked on 
 the lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an answer to one 
 specific question...
 
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[libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[RandyMcD]

HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS SHIT!

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[Riccardo Bernardini]

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

2012/1/19 RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Daniel]

:-(
Try to be polite and THINK before act (or pay attention to know you ARE
 SUBSCRIBING to something)




2012/1/19 RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Onyeibo Oku]

Lol! This is happening again!
Each time with the same vocabulary ... Are these people graduates of the same 
grammar school or what?

-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:27:57 
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HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS SHIT!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
This is an extremely high-traffic list and that is not made clear to people 
when they sign-up so it can cause panic.  

A proper official forum such as most modern projects use (Firefox, Fedora, 
Ubuntu, Mint and so on and on) would neatly avoid all sorts of recurring 
problems.  But of course we have to stick with some ancient system that makes 
the project look like something pre-Win95.  Even Arch has forums ffs.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 19/1/12, Onyeibo Oku twoho...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Onyeibo Oku twoho...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: Libre, Users users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 19 January, 2012, 9:51

Lol! This is happening again!
Each time with the same vocabulary ... Are these people graduates of the same 
grammar school or what?

-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:27:57 
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HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS SHIT!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Stefan Weigel]

Hi :-)

Am 19.01.2012 10:58, schrieb Tom Davies:

 A proper official forum such as most modern projects use
 (Firefox, Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint and so on and on) would neatly
 avoid all sorts of recurring problems.

Are you sure? :-D

Stefan


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Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[SARoets]

;-)

Please help me, how do I unsubscribe?

This is flooding my inbox!


Sarel Roets

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[RandyMcD]

You should try the same advice...

I knew I was subscribing ... all I wanted to know was how to get Java 
and this to work ... I asked nicely the first 6 times ... I'm getting a 
little tired and cranky from over 50 eMails about  book bindings ... 
formatting a picture ...etc


Now all I want to do is quit getting these eMails

Libre won't be getting any recommendations from me...


respectfully,
Randy

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Onyeibo Oku]

That's sad

One experience decides it all? Not a fair basis for conclusions my friend. 
Mailing lists are like this. U probably needed to signup for a digest instead 
of regular deliveries. U get only few mails and you'll still be hearing from 
libreoffice users.

You may also need to join forums and IRC chat channels if you're desperate but 
leaving a mailing list with that tone for reason of email traffic isn't fair.  
Did anyone abuse you here?

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from twohot@device.mobile :)

-Original Message-
From: RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 05:04:38 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

You should try the same advice...

I knew I was subscribing ... all I wanted to know was how to get Java 
and this to work ... I asked nicely the first 6 times ... I'm getting a 
little tired and cranky from over 50 eMails about  book bindings ... 
formatting a picture ...etc

Now all I want to do is quit getting these eMails

Libre won't be getting any recommendations from me...


respectfully,
Randy

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
The instructions are at the bottom of each of the emails
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
People don't see it because they are over-whelmed and panic.  

Randy has an excellent point about these lists being a major blocker.  Forums 
(fora?) would be a much more professional approach.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 19/1/12, RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com wrote:

From: RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 19 January, 2012, 11:04

You should try the same advice...

I knew I was subscribing ... all I wanted to know was how to get Java and this 
to work ... I asked nicely the first 6 times ... I'm getting a little tired and 
cranky from over 50 eMails about  book bindings ... formatting a picture ...etc

Now all I want to do is quit getting these eMails

Libre won't be getting any recommendations from me...


respectfully,
Randy

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Dan Lewis]

 It would have been nice to actually tell the person how to
unsubscribe instead of all of the unnecessary commits. This is the SIXTH
email reply that did not contain an answer! Some help these six replies
were. Shame on the six of you. I'm disappointed in all of you. Yes, be
polite; none really were. Yes, Think before acting: note were doing this
either. And yes, I am peeved with what I saw.
 If a person asks a question, answer it politely.

--Dan

On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 07:49 -0200, Daniel wrote:
 :-(
 Try to be polite and THINK before act (or pay attention to know you ARE
  SUBSCRIBING to something)
 
 
 
 
 2012/1/19 RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com
 
  HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS SHIT!
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Onyeibo Oku]

Wrong!

His question has been answered despite the tone of the request

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from twohot@device.mobile :)

-Original Message-
From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:13:04 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

 It would have been nice to actually tell the person how to
unsubscribe instead of all of the unnecessary commits. This is the SIXTH
email reply that did not contain an answer! Some help these six replies
were. Shame on the six of you. I'm disappointed in all of you. Yes, be
polite; none really were. Yes, Think before acting: note were doing this
either. And yes, I am peeved with what I saw.
 If a person asks a question, answer it politely.

--Dan

On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 07:49 -0200, Daniel wrote:
 :-(
 Try to be polite and THINK before act (or pay attention to know you ARE
  SUBSCRIBING to something)
 
 
 
 
 2012/1/19 RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com
 
  HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS SHIT!
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Tom Davies]

 if
there doesn't seem to be any), you'll receive a message asking for
confirmation of the unsubscription request. The message will resemble
the example below. 
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users@global.libreoffice.org

To confirm you want the address

john@example.com

removed from this list, please send a reply to

long email-address

Your mailer may automatically reply to this address when you hit
the reply button. [...]

You confirm your intention by replying to the message. It is a mandatory step 
to reply to the confirmation message, otherwise your subscription will not be 
terminated and you will continue to receiving traffic from the list.
After you send the confirmation message, you will receive one more
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Check your spam folder. Sometimes the confirmation request ends up
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then wonder why they are still receiving mail. 
Wait some time. Some mail servers implement a technology called
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any.
Apols and regards fromTom :)





--- On Thu, 19/1/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 19 January, 2012, 11:13

     It would have been nice to actually tell the person how to
unsubscribe instead of all of the unnecessary commits. This is the SIXTH
email reply that did not contain an answer! Some help these six replies
were. Shame on the six of you. I'm disappointed in all of you. Yes, be
polite; none really were. Yes, Think before acting: note were doing this
either. And yes, I am peeved with what I saw.
     If a person asks a question, answer it politely.

--Dan

On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 07:49 -0200, Daniel wrote:
 :-(
 Try to be polite and THINK before act (or pay attention to know you ARE
  SUBSCRIBING to something)
 
 
 
 
 2012/1/19 RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com
 
  HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS SHIT!
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Stefan Weigel]

Am 19.01.2012 12:04, schrieb saro...@gmail.com:

 Please help me, how do I unsubscribe?
 
 This is flooding my inbox!

Unsubscribing is as easy as it was to subscribe. If you do not know,
what to do, please, please, please, do read the instructions, that
you find at the bottom of every mail you get from this mailing list:

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Stefan Weigel]

Hi,

Am 19.01.2012 12:13, schrieb Dan Lewis:
  It would have been nice to actually tell the person how to
 unsubscribe instead of all of the unnecessary commits. This is the SIXTH
 email reply that did not contain an answer! Some help these six replies
 were. Shame on the six of you. I'm disappointed in all of you.

Hm? The very first reply already gave the answer.

So please friends, calm down.

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Onyeibo Oku]

Alternatively, you can configure your email service to filter out a particular 
subject line ... Or bits of it, and channel the rest to trash.  

That should give you some isolation from libreoffice mails other than the 
thread you started (long shot) :) ... But I guess that depends on what your 
email service providers allow.

-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

-Original Message-
From: RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 05:04:38 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

You should try the same advice...

I knew I was subscribing ... all I wanted to know was how to get Java 
and this to work ... I asked nicely the first 6 times ... I'm getting a 
little tired and cranky from over 50 eMails about  book bindings ... 
formatting a picture ...etc

Now all I want to do is quit getting these eMails

Libre won't be getting any recommendations from me...


respectfully,
Randy

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RE: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Shahid Khan]

Dear sir,

I no longer wish to receive emails from the libretto.office.org. Kindly please 
unsubscribe me . I do not wish to receive further emails .

Kind Regards
Shahid Khan

 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 From: twoho...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:17:05 +
 
 Wrong!
 
 His question has been answered despite the tone of the request
 
 -
 from twohot@device.mobile :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:13:04 
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
 
  It would have been nice to actually tell the person how to
 unsubscribe instead of all of the unnecessary commits. This is the SIXTH
 email reply that did not contain an answer! Some help these six replies
 were. Shame on the six of you. I'm disappointed in all of you. Yes, be
 polite; none really were. Yes, Think before acting: note were doing this
 either. And yes, I am peeved with what I saw.
  If a person asks a question, answer it politely.
 
 --Dan
 
 On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 07:49 -0200, Daniel wrote:
  :-(
  Try to be polite and THINK before act (or pay attention to know you ARE
   SUBSCRIBING to something)
  
  
  
  
  2012/1/19 RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com
  
   HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS SHIT!
  
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FW: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

[Shahid Khan]

 From: kshahi...@hotmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:39:50 +1100
 
 Dear sir,
 
 I no longer wish to receive emails from the libretto.office.org. Kindly 
 please unsubscribe me . I do not wish to receive further emails .
 
 Kind Regards
 Shahid Khan
 
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  From: twoho...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:17:05 +
  
  Wrong!
  
  His question has been answered despite the tone of the request
  
  -
  from twohot@device.mobile :)
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:13:04 
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
  
   It would have been nice to actually tell the person how to
  unsubscribe instead of all of the unnecessary commits. This is the SIXTH
  email reply that did not contain an answer! Some help these six replies
  were. Shame on the six of you. I'm disappointed in all of you. Yes, be
  polite; none really were. Yes, Think before acting: note were doing this
  either. And yes, I am peeved with what I saw.
   If a person asks a question, answer it politely.
  
  --Dan
  
  On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 07:49 -0200, Daniel wrote:
   :-(
   Try to be polite and THINK before act (or pay attention to know you ARE
SUBSCRIBING to something)
   
   
   
   
   2012/1/19 RandyMcD randy...@gondtc.com
   
HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS SHIT!
   
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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

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HI :)
Instructions on how to unsubscribe are in this guide
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Regards from
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From: John Mullen johnmul...@utilitywarehouse.org.uk
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Received: 30-8-2011 11:55:01
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CURRENT_DATE or TODAY default date in Base


Thanks Alex,

at least the dropdown in the form Date field has a TODAY option saving the
user a little time

Regards

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On 30 August 2011 10:31, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Le 30/08/11 11:18, John Mullen a écrit :

 Hi John,

  have tried this but although the Status window in the  Execute SQL
 Statement
  Dialog Box reports 1: Command successfully executed. there has been no
  change to the table.
 

 The command Andreas gave you updates the table definition so that the
 next time you enter a set of data into the table, whether by editing the
 table view directly or via a form, it should input the current date
 automatically.

 If this is what you have already tried, and it is not working, then I
 would surmise that it may possibly be linked to this bug :

 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38337


 for which there is currently no remedy...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

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Hi :)
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Subject: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe


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Received: 30-8-2011 11:55:01
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CURRENT_DATE or TODAY default date in Base


Thanks Alex,

at least the dropdown in the form Date field has a TODAY option saving the
user a little time

Regards

John

On 30 August 2011 10:31, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Le 30/08/11 11:18, John Mullen a écrit :

 Hi John,

  have tried this but although the Status window in the  Execute SQL
 Statement
  Dialog Box reports 1: Command successfully executed. there has been no
  change to the table.
 

 The command Andreas gave you updates the table definition so that the
 next time you enter a set of data into the table, whether by editing the
 table view directly or via a form, it should input the current date
 automatically.

 If this is what you have already tried, and it is not working, then I
 would surmise that it may possibly be linked to this bug :

 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38337


 for which there is currently no remedy...

 Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
A lot of email clients that are in common usage by normal office workers have 
really appalling defaults.  There is not much chance of getting the IT Dept to 
set it up right and they often block people from changing settings for 
'security' reasons.  Maybe IT Departments would be less concerned about 
security 
if stuff didn't break so easily.  OpenSource defaults tend to be much better.  
So that's 2 reasons  to get OpenSource products more accepted in workplaces. 

Regards from
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From: planas jsloz...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wed, 17 August, 2011 1:12:42
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

Cliff


On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 13:43 -0500, Cliff Scott wrote: 

 ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Tue, 16 Aug
 2011 10:58:06 +0100 (BST)
 
  Hi :)
  I don't feel contempt or superior or anything.  If a person has a problem i 
just 

  try to help if i can.  A quick copypaste is no hassle.  
  
  
  At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger.  
  Changed the font to red.  Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry 
  signs.  

  Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by.  So we switched to a 
  tiny 

  sign with Top Secret printed at the top.  Suddenly everyone started 
  taking 

  notice.
  
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 Unfortunately some mailers don't parse the email address correctly when
 pasted and cut off the +help form the email address which is why I think so
 many of the end up on this list.
 

The foorer is parsed correctly at my end, using gmail/evolution/ubuntu
11.04. Is it an improperly configured client?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:58:08 +0300
Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

Hello Stan,

 Why is it necessary for one of us to hand-massage individual cases?

Because there's a percentage of people that expect everything to be done
for them.  They're called lazy people.

 Does it  satisfy a hidden social need to do so?

Why are you accusing those that do assist of having an ulterior motive?

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[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 02:07:41 +0300
Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

Hello Stan,

 That is exactly why they should not be confronted with this
 superfluous step, since there is not reason not to simplify the
 procedure. You would still have errors, but they would be far fewer.
 Why is that wrong?

It isn't but please re-read what I wrote, as you seem to have
misunderstood.  These people don't as a rule, read the footer.
Therefore changing the content won't be of any use.  It could read
click here to be given $1,000,000 no strings attached and they *still*
wouldn't read it.

 The people who are experiencing the problem (or, as you might put it, 
 are inflicting the problem on us) are (as has been pointed out)
 largely office type people, who may be having their first exposure to
 lists and how to use them. If you want to just solve the problem of

Except that, in most instances, the same people commit the same
'mistake' on multiple lists.  It's laziness and/or stupidity.

 possible, which is why all other lists, as far as I can remember, have
 the unsubscribe instruction up front, not hidden behind an instruction

And people /still/ send unsub messages to the list.  I see it on the
lists I administer.  The instructions are in *every* message sent to the
list, plus the one sent when anybody initially subscribes.  Few people
read those, never mind keep them.

 If you prefer to ignore their naivete, and to continue to confront
 them with this unnecessary barrier, you can have the joy of feeling
 superior to them (which is what you are doing), with all the pleasant

Feel superior?  Nope.  Contempt is nearer the mark.  I don't suffer fools
gladly.  Please don't presume to tell me how I feel.

 buzz that this may give you, and have a laugh each and every time
 there is one of these plaints on the list -- and the annoyance will
 continue.

It'll continue whatever gets put in the footer.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I don't feel contempt or superior or anything.  If a person has a problem i 
just 
try to help if i can.  A quick copypaste is no hassle.  


At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger.  
Changed the font to red.  Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry signs.  
Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by.  So we switched to a tiny 
sign with Top Secret printed at the top.  Suddenly everyone started taking 
notice.

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 10:10:08
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 02:07:41 +0300
Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

Hello Stan,

 That is exactly why they should not be confronted with this
 superfluous step, since there is not reason not to simplify the
 procedure. You would still have errors, but they would be far fewer.
 Why is that wrong?

It isn't but please re-read what I wrote, as you seem to have
misunderstood.  These people don't as a rule, read the footer.
Therefore changing the content won't be of any use.  It could read
click here to be given $1,000,000 no strings attached and they *still*
wouldn't read it.

 The people who are experiencing the problem (or, as you might put it, 
 are inflicting the problem on us) are (as has been pointed out)
 largely office type people, who may be having their first exposure to
 lists and how to use them. If you want to just solve the problem of

Except that, in most instances, the same people commit the same
'mistake' on multiple lists.  It's laziness and/or stupidity.

 possible, which is why all other lists, as far as I can remember, have
 the unsubscribe instruction up front, not hidden behind an instruction

And people /still/ send unsub messages to the list.  I see it on the
lists I administer.  The instructions are in *every* message sent to the
list, plus the one sent when anybody initially subscribes.  Few people
read those, never mind keep them.

 If you prefer to ignore their naivete, and to continue to confront
 them with this unnecessary barrier, you can have the joy of feeling
 superior to them (which is what you are doing), with all the pleasant

Feel superior?  Nope.  Contempt is nearer the mark.  I don't suffer fools
gladly.  Please don't presume to tell me how I feel.

 buzz that this may give you, and have a laugh each and every time
 there is one of these plaints on the list -- and the annoyance will
 continue.

It'll continue whatever gets put in the footer.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Stan Goodman]

On Tuesday 16 August 2011 12:01:37 Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:58:08 +0300
 Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:
 
 Hello Stan,
 
  Why is it necessary for one of us to hand-massage individual cases?
 
 Because there's a percentage of people that expect everything to be
 done for them.  They're called lazy people.

Given that there are lazy people, and also even many more people who 
simply don't know the drill and don't  know exactly what to scrutinize 
to make sure that they're not missing any bets, the rational way for the 
group to cope with such evidence of the human condition would be to made 
every effort ONCE to minimize the frequency with which it will be 
bothered by the need for individual explanations.

An irrational response might be to dismiss them all as just lazy people 
who need to be taught a lesson, even though teaching this lesson several 
times a week also bothers to a slight degree each and every reader of 
the list, not  to mention the Good Samaritans who send out these 
messages two or three times a week. The aggregate bother over, say, a 
year is not at all trivial, and it is all sooo unnecessary,

  Does it  satisfy a hidden social need to do so?
 
 Why are you accusing those that do assist of having an ulterior
 motive?

If you will read that sentence again, you may notice that it is not an 
accusation, but one in a series of hypothericals, framed as questions, 
meant to display the absence of any logical explanation for the unusual 
way unsubscription is being handled. As you have perceived it as an 
acccusation, it seems to have struck a nerve. For the record however, I 
don't care how you get your jollies; What you do with your surplus time 
is certainly your own business.

I am sure I've said everything I have to say on this subject, several 
times. I don't have any interest in defending my position further. It's 
been educational, which is something, and it's shown me an especially 
comical human foible that I must somehow have missed earlier.

As you were.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Your position is a good one and doesn't need defending.  If we all agreed about 
everything all the time it would be very dull.  Lets hope we never get there!

Usually we work towards a win-win so that everyone is happy but in this case we 
have been forced into a compromise which no-one has won and some points of view 
have lost out more than others.  The fact is (imo) that you are right and other 
people (incl me) are trying to defend a less-than-perfect system.  


There is a Nabble thread about this and if you have a good idea of how to 
implement a better answer then it would be great to add to that thread.  That 
seems to be the blocker at the moment, the implementation is not easy.  Other 
mailing lists have better answers but the mailing-list system we are using is 
different.  


Regards from
Tom :)





From: Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 16:56:39
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

On Tuesday 16 August 2011 12:01:37 Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:58:08 +0300
 Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:
 
 Hello Stan,
 
  Why is it necessary for one of us to hand-massage individual cases?
 
 Because there's a percentage of people that expect everything to be
 done for them.  They're called lazy people.

Given that there are lazy people, and also even many more people who 
simply don't know the drill and don't  know exactly what to scrutinize 
to make sure that they're not missing any bets, the rational way for the 
group to cope with such evidence of the human condition would be to made 
every effort ONCE to minimize the frequency with which it will be 
bothered by the need for individual explanations.

An irrational response might be to dismiss them all as just lazy people 
who need to be taught a lesson, even though teaching this lesson several 
times a week also bothers to a slight degree each and every reader of 
the list, not  to mention the Good Samaritans who send out these 
messages two or three times a week. The aggregate bother over, say, a 
year is not at all trivial, and it is all sooo unnecessary,

  Does it  satisfy a hidden social need to do so?
 
 Why are you accusing those that do assist of having an ulterior
 motive?

If you will read that sentence again, you may notice that it is not an 
accusation, but one in a series of hypothericals, framed as questions, 
meant to display the absence of any logical explanation for the unusual 
way unsubscription is being handled. As you have perceived it as an 
acccusation, it seems to have struck a nerve. For the record however, I 
don't care how you get your jollies; What you do with your surplus time 
is certainly your own business.

I am sure I've said everything I have to say on this subject, several 
times. I don't have any interest in defending my position further. It's 
been educational, which is something, and it's shown me an especially 
comical human foible that I must somehow have missed earlier.

As you were.

-- 
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Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Caesar]

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:56:39 +0300, Stan Goodman
stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users]
unsubscribe:

Given that there are lazy people, and also even many more people who 
simply don't know the drill and don't  know exactly what to scrutinize 
to make sure that they're not missing any bets, the rational way for the 
group to cope with such evidence of the human condition would be to made 
every effort ONCE to minimize the frequency with which it will be 
bothered by the need for individual explanations.

Well put.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:56:39 +0300
Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

Hello Stan,

 Given that there are lazy people, and also even many more people who 
 simply don't know the drill and don't  know exactly what to scrutinize 
 to make sure that they're not missing any bets, the rational way for
 the group to cope with such evidence of the human condition would be
 to made every effort ONCE to minimize the frequency with which it will

Are you deliberately missing the point?  Changing the footer will NOT be
of any use for reasons already explained:  It won't be read.  Therefore,
changing the footer is simply wasting time and effort.

As is this discussion.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Cliff Scott]

** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Tue, 16 Aug
2011 10:58:06 +0100 (BST)

 Hi :)
 I don't feel contempt or superior or anything.  If a person has a problem i 
 just 
 try to help if i can.  A quick copypaste is no hassle.  
 
 
 At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger.  
 Changed the font to red.  Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry signs.  
 Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by.  So we switched to a tiny 
 sign with Top Secret printed at the top.  Suddenly everyone started taking 
 notice.
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)


Unfortunately some mailers don't parse the email address correctly when
pasted and cut off the +help form the email address which is why I think so
many of the end up on this list.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
On mine the users+ looks like it's not part of the address.  The Problems 
guide does lead to the right place tho but maybe the + causes problems for 
those 
emailers when they try to follow the instruction?
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Cliff Scott ae...@qsl.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 19:43:42
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Tue, 16 Aug
2011 10:58:06 +0100 (BST)

 Hi :)
 I don't feel contempt or superior or anything.  If a person has a problem i 
just 

 try to help if i can.  A quick copypaste is no hassle.  
 
 
 At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger.  
 Changed the font to red.  Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry signs.  
 Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by.  So we switched to a tiny 
 sign with Top Secret printed at the top.  Suddenly everyone started taking 
 notice.
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)


Unfortunately some mailers don't parse the email address correctly when
pasted and cut off the +help form the email address which is why I think so
many of the end up on this list.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Cliff Scott]

** Reply to message from planas jsloz...@gmail.com on Tue, 16 Aug 2011
20:12:42 -0400

 Cliff
 
 
 On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 13:43 -0500, Cliff Scott wrote: 
 
  ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Tue, 16 Aug
  2011 10:58:06 +0100 (BST)
  
   Hi :)
   I don't feel contempt or superior or anything.  If a person has a problem 
   i just 
   try to help if i can.  A quick copypaste is no hassle.  
   
   
   At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger. 

   Changed the font to red.  Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry 
   signs.  
   Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by.  So we switched to a 
   tiny 
   sign with Top Secret printed at the top.  Suddenly everyone started 
   taking 
   notice.
   
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
  Unfortunately some mailers don't parse the email address correctly when
  pasted and cut off the +help form the email address which is why I think so
  many of the end up on this list.
  
 
 The foorer is parsed correctly at my end, using gmail/evolution/ubuntu
 11.04. Is it an improperly configured client?

In using a java based email client on WinXP it ends up with
users@global.libreoffice.org as the email address and +help as the subject.
The same client under eCS works fine so it could be the interface with XP and
the client or an issue within XP itself. Apparently Tom also has seen
incorrect parsing. Maybe if the plus sign was changed to a minus it would
work better, I don't know.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[soumalya ray]

totally agree with you

On 16 August 2011 11:28, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:42:48 Tom Davies wrote:
  We don't really get a LOT of problems.  Perhaps 2 or 3 people in a
  month?  We  all notice and their posts are glaringly obvious but
  usually it's very easy to fix.  One of us just copiespastes the
  guide address from the new footer into the main part of the message.
 
  Note that the footer did change a couple of weeks ago.  It's not
  perfect but it is a bit better imo.  I still largely agree with
  Stan's statement.

 Why is it necessary for one of us to hand-massage individual cases? Does
 it  satisfy a hidden social need to do so?

 Blogs to which I subscribe generally have a link at the bottom of each
 message saying To unsubscribe, click _here_. No muss, no fuss. Why is
 that inadequate?

 In the case of a mailing list, there are two alternatives of
 subscribtion, message by message, or the digest. Suppose that the link
 would open a browser to a page on an LO site, that asks the simple
 question Message by message, or digest. The fellow can check the right
 box, the system sends him the usual confirmation message, and it's over.
 If , instead of two possibilities, there are four or even thirty (as a
 user from some other galaxy noted), then there can be four or thirty
 checkboxes on the web page.

 I don't see why this is even an issue to be debated.

 If there has been a change of the instruction recently, I have not
 detected it. Since the method is as it was, any change can only have
 been trivial/
 --
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 Qiryat Tiv'on
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I: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[El Cico]

- Messaggio inoltrato -

Da: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
A: users@global.libreoffice.org
Inviato: Dom 14 agosto 2011, 20:41:28
Oggetto: Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

Hi :)
Try reading the instructions 
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Hopefully that might help you unsubscribe.  The lists have been unusually busy 
over the last couple of weeks but it might calm down a bit.  

Regards from
Tom :)

Ciao,
Qui la stessa pagina, già tradotta (same page, translated):

http://it.libreoffice.org/supporto/mailing-lists/come-cancellarsi/

Namastè! cico :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Stan Goodman]

On Monday 15 August 2011 09:51:03 Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:32:20 +0300
 Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:
 
 Hello Stan,
 
  It might help, actually, if instead of requiring the hopeful
  escapee to send off an email in order to learn how to send off a
  second emall,
 
 You'd think, wouldn't you.  Trouble is, the perpetrators of such
 unsub faux pas make the gaff because they can't be arsed to read the
 footer at all.  As a result, for them, the content is irrelevant.

That is exactly why they should not be confronted with this superfluous 
step, since there is not reason not to simplify the procedure. You would 
still have errors, but they would be far fewer. Why is that wrong?

The people who are experiencing the problem (or, as you might put it, 
are inflicting the problem on us) are (as has been pointed out) largely 
office type people, who may be having their first exposure to lists and 
how to use them. If you want to just solve the problem of getting them 
unsubscribed, you will have to make it as obvious as possible, which is 
why all other lists, as far as I can remember, have the unsubscribe 
instruction up front, not hidden behind an instruction to get the 
instruction (one might caall that the obstruction).

If you prefer to ignore their naivete, and to continue to confront them 
with this unnecessary barrier, you can have the joy of feeling superior 
to them (which is what you are doing), with all the pleasant buzz that 
this may give you, and have a laugh each and every time there is one of 
these plaints on the list -- and the annoyance will continue.

I do not know who is responsible administration of the list, but my hope 
is that he will wake up one morning, and figure out what the less 
juvenile choice should be.

-- 
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Stan Goodman]

On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:42:48 Tom Davies wrote:
 We don't really get a LOT of problems.  Perhaps 2 or 3 people in a
 month?  We  all notice and their posts are glaringly obvious but
 usually it's very easy to fix.  One of us just copiespastes the
 guide address from the new footer into the main part of the message.
 
 Note that the footer did change a couple of weeks ago.  It's not
 perfect but it is a bit better imo.  I still largely agree with
 Stan's statement.

Why is it necessary for one of us to hand-massage individual cases? Does 
it  satisfy a hidden social need to do so?

Blogs to which I subscribe generally have a link at the bottom of each 
message saying To unsubscribe, click _here_. No muss, no fuss. Why is 
that inadequate?

In the case of a mailing list, there are two alternatives of 
subscribtion, message by message, or the digest. Suppose that the link 
would open a browser to a page on an LO site, that asks the simple 
question Message by message, or digest. The fellow can check the right 
box, the system sends him the usual confirmation message, and it's over. 
If , instead of two possibilities, there are four or even thirty (as a 
user from some other galaxy noted), then there can be four or thirty 
checkboxes on the web page.

I don't see why this is even an issue to be debated.

If there has been a change of the instruction recently, I have not 
detected it. Since the method is as it was, any change can only have 
been trivial/
-- 
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Stan Goodman]

On Sunday 14 August 2011 21:41:28 Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Try reading the instructions
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Hopefully that might help you unsubscribe.  The lists have been
 unusually busy over the last couple of weeks but it might calm down
 a bit.
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)

It might help, actually, if instead of requiring the hopeful escapee to 
send off an email in order to learn how to send off a second emall, the 
footer merely tell the fellow what email he must send in order to leave. 
That is what is done in most lists, it isn't clear why it can't be done.  
here as well. We don't need to punish people for wanting to unsubscribe.

It might be even better to say click here to unsubscribe. Although the 
address is currently given as a link, the link is very easy to overlook, 
especially that (as has been pointed out) many users of this list are 
not technical people, and this may be their first experience with lists 
and leaving them.

Inviting people to email the help system if they have a problem is very 
nice, but it's a separate issue, and bundling the unsubscribe method 
into it only complicates matters for unsubscribing, which is always the 
chief reason for involving the administrative function in the first 
place.

-- 
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

[Stan Goodman]

On Monday 15 August 2011 00:08:50 toki wrote:
 On 08/14/2011 08:32 PM, Stan Goodman wrote:
  the footer merely tell the fellow what email he must send in order
  to leave.
 
 There are half a dozen different ways an individual can be subscribed
 to this list. Consequently, how to unsubscribe depends upon how the
 individual originally subscribed.

Actually, according to the help file that we are dragging the poor 
fellow through, there are two:

He can be getting messages one by each, or
He can be getting a digest.

Those are the choices he is being offered to unsubscribe, so if there 
are four others, they are being ignored anyway.
 
 I guess each way could be put in the footer, but that would make for
 a footer that was at least twenty lines long, and probably closer to
 thirty.

Not twenty, two. It should not be a lot of trouble for a dedicated 
operative to devise a way to do that.

Or, alternatively, we could continue the current method, which (as far 
as I have seen from the many lists to which I subscribe now or have 
subscribed in the past, is unique, and which produces entirely too many 
requests to the list membership to unsubscribe me. There is nothing 
special about this list that requires a more clumsy unsubscribe method 
than any othe list on the planet.
 
 jonathon

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