Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
I have tried Esc, Fn 1-12 and Del. In each case I have selected a reboot, then hit the selected key, holding it down throughout the reboot process. None of them gave me the required screen - all with just the choice between the existing FC and Rescue. I'm beginning to think that I will have t

Re: fed/centos - recovery app/process???

2018-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 20:53 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:02:28AM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 14:37 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > On 02/15/2018 12:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > "Crash save" files weren't unique to DG systems, BTW. DEC VAX/

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 10:17 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > I have tried Esc, Fn 1-12 and Del. In each case I have selected a reboot, > then hit the selected key, holding it down throughout the reboot process. > None of them gave me the required screen - all with just the choice between > the exis

does "isovfy" actually *do* anything?

2018-02-16 Thread Robert P. J. Day
just downloaded some sizable centos 7 iso images, and thought i would validate them to whatever extent "isovfy" can do that, but here's what happened in the blink of an eye: $ isovfy CentOS-7-x86_64-Everything-1708.iso Root at extent 1d, 2048 bytes [0 0] No errors found $ that iso im

Re: does "isovfy" actually *do* anything?

2018-02-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/16/18 21:02, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > just downloaded some sizable centos 7 iso images, and thought i > would validate them to whatever extent "isovfy" can do that, but > here's what happened in the blink of an eye: > > $ isovfy CentOS-7-x86_64-Everything-1708.iso > Root at extent 1d,

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 10:21:27 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > > > IMO, I feel the problem with using the Fedora name in a repo or site makes > people > think it is formally affiliated with and endorsed by The Fedora Project.  > Companies > such as Disney, Apple, Samsung, and others go to great lengt

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
> On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 10:17 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > This is *definitely* not necessary. The BIOS runs before the hard disk > is even read, so there has to be a way to catch it. As far as I can > tell you haven't so far mentioned what the make and model of your > laptop is, so everyone is j

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
BTW, F2 is what's usually cited for my purpose. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
GOT IT! - In case someone else reads this thread, this is what you need to know. If your function keys are marked in orange or blue, you need to hold down the Fn key. From the Power menu, select Restart and, with the Fn key firmly down, start tapping F2. (Function keys marked in white shouldn'

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 15:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > GOT IT! - In case someone else reads this thread, this is what you need to > know. > > If your function keys are marked in orange or blue, you need to hold down the > Fn key. From the Power menu, select Restart and, with the Fn key firmly

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 14:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 10:17 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > This is *definitely* not necessary. The BIOS runs before the hard disk > > is even read, so there has to be a way to catch it. As far as I can > > tell you haven't so far mention

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
> On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 15:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Well obviously you need to hold the Fn key :-) (I know, some things are > only obvious after the fact). > > BTW, for future reference I recommend you join this list and use a > proper mailer with a quoting feature. The HyperKitty mail in

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 16:42 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 15:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > Well obviously you need to hold the Fn key :-) (I know, some things are > > only obvious after the fact). > > > > BTW, for future reference I recommend you join this list and us

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 04:42:15PM -, Anne Wilson wrote: > I've never met this "hold Fn key on any of the other machines I've had. It's increasingly common as laptop touchpads grow and keyboard correspondingly shrink. There's no room for a dedicated row of volume, screen brightness, airplane m

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-16 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/15/2018 01:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 16/2/18 6:52 am, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 02/14/2018 01:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> On 14/2/18 10:05 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 08:08 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > So from my perspective the vlc package you

Electrum and hardware wallets

2018-02-16 Thread Martin Wagner
Hi I've got a Fedora 27 desktop with electrum-3.0.5-1.fc27.noarch installed. It works otherwise except with hardware wallets. I have a Trezor that shows up fine in the system logs when I connect it and that I can use together with Chrome, but Electrum won't recognize it. I also have a Ledger Nano

Re: does "isovfy" actually *do* anything?

2018-02-16 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 8:02 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > just downloaded some sizable centos 7 iso images, and thought i > would validate them to whatever extent "isovfy" can do that, but > here's what happened in the blink of an eye: > I check my CentOS downloads following the instructions

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 02/16/2018 07:51 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: GOT IT! - In case someone else reads this thread, this is what you need to know. If your function keys are marked in orange or blue, you need to hold down the Fn key. From the Power menu, select Restart and, with the Fn key firmly down, start tapping

Re: How to get a recent / maintained version of Mesa for F27?

2018-02-16 Thread InvalidPath
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:02 AM, Gerhard Hueller wrote: > >> Are there prebuilt packages of Mesa-17.3.3/4 available somewhere? > > Try updates-testing for 17.3.3-1.fc27. > > Thanks a lot, I guess I missed those. > Finally 😊 > > Thx, Gerhard > > ___ > u

Re: How to get a recent / maintained version of Mesa for F27?

2018-02-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 02/16/2018 12:29 PM, InvalidPath wrote: So just curious, whats the reason behind not updating it? What do you mean? It's in updates-testing and once it's considered to be tested sufficiently, it will get pushed out for general use. Feel free to update to it and provide a comment on the u

Re: Where to report dependency problems.

2018-02-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 02/15/2018 10:34 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Dirk Gottschalk wrote: >> I have a FAS Account, but AFAIK I'm not in the packagers group. That >> could be the Problem. But, that to be said, my Cardreader is not even >> accessed. > > Hmm. I don't know for certain, but if you've gotten a fork, > I

Re: How to get a recent / maintained version of Mesa for F27?

2018-02-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/16/2018 12:39 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/16/2018 12:29 PM, InvalidPath wrote: So just curious, whats the reason behind not updating it? What do you mean?  It's in updates-testing and once it's considered to be tested sufficiently, it will get pushed out for general use.  Feel free to

Re: How to get a recent / maintained version of Mesa for F27?

2018-02-16 Thread InvalidPath
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 02/16/2018 12:29 PM, InvalidPath wrote: > >> So just curious, whats the reason behind not updating it? >> > > What do you mean? It's in updates-testing and once it's considered to be > tested sufficiently, it will get pushed out for genera

Re: How to get a recent / maintained version of Mesa for F27?

2018-02-16 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/16/2018 01:35 PM, InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Samuel Sieb > wrote: > > On 02/16/2018 12:29 PM, InvalidPath wrote: > > So just curious, whats the reason behind not updating it? > > > What do you mean?  It's in updates

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/2/18 2:51 am, Anne Wilson wrote: GOT IT! - In case someone else reads this thread, this is what you need to know. If your function keys are marked in orange or blue, you need to hold down the Fn key. From the Power menu, select Restart and, with the Fn key firmly down, start tapping F2.

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/2/18 3:55 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 16:42 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 15:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: Well obviously you need to hold the Fn key :-) (I know, some things are only obvious after the fact). BTW, for future reference I recommend

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/16/2018 04:30 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 17/2/18 3:55 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 16:42 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 15:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: Well obviously you need to hold the Fn key :-) (I know, some things are o

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/2/18 3:36 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 14:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 10:17 +, Anne Wilson wrote: This is *definitely* not necessary. The BIOS runs before the hard disk is even read, so there has to be a way to catch it. As far as I can t

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-16 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/2/18 5:02 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 02/15/2018 01:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 16/2/18 6:52 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 02/14/2018 01:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 14/2/18 10:05 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 08:08 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: So from my pers

Re: How to get a recent / maintained version of Mesa for F27?

2018-02-16 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Thursday, February 15, 2018 12:04:35 PM EST Garry Williams wrote: > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Gerhard Hueller > wrote: > > Are there prebuilt packages of Mesa-17.3.3/4 available somewhere? > > Try updates-testing for 17.3.3-1.fc27. 17.3.4-1 is now in -testing. -- Garry T. Williams

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Saturday, 17 February 2018 00.30.34 WET Stephen Morris wrote: > I'm using a desktop with a microsoft > keyboard, which has separate keys for volume, mute and play/pause > controls and even a key for a calculator, but by default none of them > work under linux and I've never investigated what nee

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 02/16/2018 11:38 PM, José Abílio Matos wrote: On Saturday, 17 February 2018 00.30.34 WET Stephen Morris wrote: > I'm using a desktop with a microsoft > keyboard, which has separate keys for volume, mute and play/pause > controls and even a key for a calculator, but by default none of the