Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-12-10 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/10/18 2:10 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 12/10/18 1:01 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> On 7/12/18 9:10 am, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 12/7/18 4:33 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed, I'll try that again. I am using a vpn called Slickvpn. I did download *.ovpn files for each

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-12-10 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/10/18 1:01 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 7/12/18 9:10 am, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 12/7/18 4:33 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> Thanks Ed, I'll try that again. >>> >>> I am using a vpn called Slickvpn. I did download *.ovpn files for >>> each location but I >>> didn't issue the command you

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-12-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/11/18 5:01 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > How do I find out why the Networkmanager dialog won't show them? I don't know. Why don't you just go to the slickVPN site and download them from there? -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-12-10 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/18 9:10 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/7/18 4:33 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed, I'll try that again. I am using a vpn called Slickvpn. I did download *.ovpn files for each location but I didn't issue the command you mentioned. I manually created the vpn definitions in network

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-12-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/7/18 4:33 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > Thanks Ed, I'll try that again. > > I am using a vpn called Slickvpn. I did download *.ovpn files for each > location but I > didn't issue the command you mentioned. I manually created the vpn > definitions in > network manager and manually populated

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 5/12/18 11:18 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/5/18 5:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/5/18 4:41 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: The vpn I'm using, which operates through Openvpn, has servers all over the world Kindly tell us which VPN service you are using. Oh, and I should have also added this

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-12-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/5/18 5:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/5/18 4:41 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> The vpn I'm using, which operates through Openvpn, has servers all over the >> world > Kindly tell us which VPN service you are using. > Oh, and I should have also added this The service you're using most

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-12-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/5/18 4:41 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > The vpn I'm using, which operates through Openvpn, has servers all over the > world Kindly tell us which VPN service you are using. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-12-04 Thread Stephen Morris
On 28/11/18 8:51 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/27/18 12:48 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/11/18 10:53 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/26/18 1:46 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 21/11/18 10:02 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/20/18 2:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/21/18 5:07 AM, Stephen Morris

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-27 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/27/18 12:48 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 27/11/18 10:53 am, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 11/26/18 1:46 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> On 21/11/18 10:02 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/20/18 2:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/21/18 5:07 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> A second, smaller

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 27/11/18 10:53 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/26/18 1:46 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 21/11/18 10:02 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/20/18 2:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/21/18 5:07 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Given that the front screen of the bios is displaying the time as local time,

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-11-27 at 08:46 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > At the moment my main OS is Windows as I spend a fair amount of time > playing online games that can't be played under Linux, so I mainly only > boot to Linux for email processing, until such time as I decide to forgo > the gaming

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/26/18 1:46 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 21/11/18 10:02 am, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 11/20/18 2:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 11/21/18 5:07 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Given that the front screen of the bios is displaying the time as local time, presumably that means

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/27/18 5:46 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > I haven't investigated recently the ability of VM's to provide the necessary > hardware > graphics quality for gaming, but the last time I > looked at this possibility the graphics capabilities weren't up to scratch. That is correct. If Windows is

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-26 Thread Stephen Morris
On 27/11/18 8:45 am, Lester M Petrie wrote: On 11/26/2018 4:25 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 21/11/18 9:09 am, Ed Greshko wrote: question is obvious. Having installed the motherboard over 12 months ago and not touched the time settings since, it wasn't until two days ago that I realised,

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-26 Thread Stephen Morris
On 21/11/18 10:02 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/20/18 2:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/21/18 5:07 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Given that the front screen of the bios is displaying the time as local time, presumably that means that the time settings in the bios are local time and the

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-26 Thread Lester M Petrie
On 11/26/2018 4:25 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 21/11/18 9:09 am, Ed Greshko wrote: question is obvious. Having installed the motherboard over 12 months ago and not touched the time settings since, it wasn't until two days ago that I realised, through trial and error, that the bios

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-26 Thread Stephen Morris
On 21/11/18 9:09 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/21/18 5:07 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Given that the front screen of the bios is displaying the time as local time, presumably that means that the time settings in the bios are local time and the motherboard bios doesn't provide any means to input

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/21/18 7:02 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > That's just the way it is (unfortunately). And one of the myriad of reasons I don't dual boot with Windows.  VM's are good enough for the few times I've got no choice in the matter.  -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/20/18 2:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/21/18 5:07 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> >> >> Given that the front screen of the bios is displaying the time as local >> time, presumably >> that means that the time settings in the bios are local time and the >> motherboard bios >> doesn't provide

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/21/18 5:07 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > > > Given that the front screen of the bios is displaying the time as local time, > presumably > that means that the time settings in the bios are local time and the > motherboard bios > doesn't provide any means to input the time as GMT, hence the

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/20/18 1:07 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 19/11/18 10:13 am, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/19/18 5:08 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >>>  From recollection, which may not be completely accurate, the Asrock >>> motherboard that I >>> have now is the first motherboard I've had where the bios has not

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/20/2018 02:07 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Given that the front screen of the bios is displaying the time as local time, presumably that means that the time settings in the bios are local time and the motherboard bios doesn't provide any means to input the time as GMT, hence the bios is not

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-20 Thread Stephen Morris
On 19/11/18 10:13 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/19/18 5:08 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: From recollection, which may not be completely accurate, the Asrock motherboard that I have now is the first motherboard I've had where the bios has not offered a setting to set the system clock to GMT/Local,

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/18/18 1:22 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 16/11/18 12:17 pm, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 11/15/18 4:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 11/16/18 7:37 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/15/18 3:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/15/2018 03:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> In Linux >> case, it

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/19/18 9:05 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: > On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 06:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/19/18 5:51 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> Sure, but if the user is in the United Kingdom where they use GMT, >>> then presumably they >>> would run their entire system in GMT, whereas other

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-19 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 06:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/19/18 5:51 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > > Sure, but if the user is in the United Kingdom where they use GMT, > > then presumably they > > would run their entire system in GMT, whereas other locations may > > or may not want to, so > > the

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/18/18 2:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Right:  I dislike the default color scheme Wron:  What idiot picked the default color scheme Thank you! It's sad that it's necessary to point that out though. ___ users mailing list --

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/19/18 5:08 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> > From recollection, which may not be completely accurate, the Asrock > motherboard that I > have now is the first motherboard I've had where the bios has not offered a > setting to > set the system clock to GMT/Local, and I have always set the

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/19/18 5:51 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > Sure, but if the user is in the United Kingdom where they use GMT, then > presumably they > would run their entire system in GMT, whereas other locations may or may not > want to, so > the motherboard should provide that option, and I have had

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 19/11/18 8:21 am, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/18/2018 02:08 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:  From recollection, which may not be completely accurate, the Asrock motherboard that I have now is the first motherboard I've had where the bios has not offered a setting to set the system clock to GMT/Local,

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 16/11/18 12:17 pm, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/15/18 4:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/16/18 7:37 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/15/18 3:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/15/2018 03:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: In Linux case, it expects UTC. In Windows, it expects local time. I haven't had to deal

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/18/2018 02:08 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: From recollection, which may not be completely accurate, the Asrock motherboard that I have now is the first motherboard I've had where the bios has not offered a setting to set the system clock to GMT/Local, and I have always set the system clock

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 16/11/18 1:12 pm, Tony Nelson wrote: On 18-11-15 18:00:14, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/15/2018 03:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: In Linux case, it expects UTC. In Windows, it expects local time. I haven't had to deal with this for years, but if memory serves, there's a place where you can tell

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Tony Nelson
On 18-11-15 18:00:14, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/15/2018 03:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: In Linux case, it expects UTC. In Windows, it expects local time. I haven't had to deal with this for years, but if memory serves, there's a place where you can tell Linux that the hardware clock is in local

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/15/2018 06:32 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Why don't you give it a try and show me it exits? https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=11 Shows the last time this package was supplied was in F25. Kindly check your work before making suggestions? I did, but I'm working on my

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/16/18 9:17 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/15/18 4:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> Well, I'm just installing an F29 MATE VM and on the TIME screen there >> is no tick-box >> to indicate that the HW clock is or isn't "local".  >> >> Additionally, I could find no trace of "system-config-date"

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/16/18 9:26 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/15/2018 05:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Additionally, I could find no trace of "system-config-date" in F29. >> >> [root@meimei ~]# dnf whatprovides *bin/system-config-date >> Fedora 29 - x86_64 - VirtualBox    2.8 kB/s | 6.9 kB >>

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/15/2018 05:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Additionally, I could find no trace of "system-config-date" in F29. [root@meimei ~]# dnf whatprovides *bin/system-config-date Fedora 29 - x86_64 - VirtualBox    2.8 kB/s | 6.9 kB 00:02 Failed to synchronize cache for repo

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/15/18 4:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/16/18 7:37 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 11/15/18 3:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> On 11/15/2018 03:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: In Linux case, it expects UTC. In Windows, it expects local time. >>> I haven't had to deal with this for years, but

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/16/18 7:37 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/15/18 3:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 11/15/2018 03:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> In Linux >>> case, it expects UTC. In Windows, it expects local time. >> I haven't had to deal with this for years, but if memory serves, there's >> a place where you

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/15/18 3:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/15/2018 03:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> In Linux >> case, it expects UTC. In Windows, it expects local time. > > I haven't had to deal with this for years, but if memory serves, there's > a place where you can tell Linux that the hardware clock is in

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/15/2018 03:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: In Linux case, it expects UTC. In Windows, it expects local time. I haven't had to deal with this for years, but if memory serves, there's a place where you can tell Linux that the hardware clock is in local time, not UTC.

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/15/18 2:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/16/18 6:17 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 11/15/18 2:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 11/16/18 4:50 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 14/11/18 8:46 am, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/14/18 5:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> My hardware clock is 

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/16/18 6:17 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/15/18 2:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/16/18 4:50 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> On 14/11/18 8:46 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/14/18 5:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > My hardware clock is running a couple of seconds slow as well. >

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/15/18 2:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/16/18 4:50 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> On 14/11/18 8:46 am, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 11/14/18 5:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: My hardware clock is running a couple of seconds slow as well. Just as a matter of curiosity, when you say if

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/16/18 4:50 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 14/11/18 8:46 am, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/14/18 5:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> My hardware clock is running a couple of seconds slow as well. >>> >>> Just as a matter of curiosity, when you say if you issue hwclock from the >>> bios (how have

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/11/18 10:03 am, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/13/18 1:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Thankyou. I issued the command and got the following output but I'm not sure what it means. Nov 14 08:33:43 localhost.localdomain nm-openvpn[3877]: WARNING: 'link-mtu' is used inconsistently, local='link-mtu

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/11/18 8:56 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/14/18 5:43 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 14/11/18 4:36 am, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/13/18 3:07 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/13/18 12:39 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Run "sudo journalctl -b -t openvpn" to find all the journal entries. That would actually

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/11/18 8:46 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/14/18 5:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: My hardware clock is running a couple of seconds slow as well. Just as a matter of curiosity, when you say if you issue hwclock from the bios (how have you done that) what does journalctl show for the same time?

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/11/18 8:46 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/14/18 5:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: My hardware clock is running a couple of seconds slow as well. Just as a matter of curiosity, when you say if you issue hwclock from the bios (how have you done that) what does journalctl show for the same time?

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-13 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/13/18 1:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Thankyou. I issued the command and got the following output but I'm not sure what it means. Nov 14 08:33:43 localhost.localdomain nm-openvpn[3877]: WARNING: 'link-mtu' is used inconsistently, local='link-mtu 1558', remote='link-mtu 1557' Nov 14

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-13 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/14/18 5:43 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 14/11/18 4:36 am, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 11/13/18 3:07 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 11/13/18 12:39 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Run "sudo journalctl -b -t openvpn" to find all the journal entries. >>> >>> That would actually be >>> >>>

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-13 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/14/18 5:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > My hardware clock is running a couple of seconds slow as well. > > Just as a matter of curiosity, when you say if you issue hwclock from the > bios (how have > you done that) what does journalctl show for the same time? Does it show, > using your >

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/11/18 4:36 am, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/13/18 3:07 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/13/18 12:39 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Run "sudo journalctl -b -t openvpn" to find all the journal entries. That would actually be journalctl -b -t nm-openvpn Thank you.  I've been running the openvpn

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/11/18 8:52 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/13/18 4:49 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: So given all this, when searching journalctl for boot messages across particular datetime ranges, how do you find them when the timestamps in the journals are blatantly wrong, potentially up until the desktop 

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-13 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/13/18 3:07 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/13/18 12:39 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Run "sudo journalctl -b -t openvpn" to find all the journal entries. That would actually be journalctl -b -t nm-openvpn Thank you. I've been running the openvpn client directly from the command line, so

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-13 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/13/18 12:39 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/6/18 1:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> When I start one of the two vpn definitions, that have been in >> networkmanager for >> years and used to work fine (I haven't used them in quite a while), it >> starts and I get >> a pop-up message

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-11-12 at 20:39 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/6/18 1:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > > When I start one of the two vpn definitions, that have been in > > networkmanager for years and used to work fine (I haven't used them in > > quite a while), it starts and I get a pop-up

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/6/18 1:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:     When I start one of the two vpn definitions, that have been in networkmanager for years and used to work fine (I haven't used them in quite a while), it starts and I get a pop-up message saying that interface tun0 has been activated in the

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/13/18 4:49 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > So given all this, when searching journalctl for boot messages across > particular > datetime ranges, how do you find them when the timestamps in > the journals are blatantly wrong, potentially up until the desktop loads? I don't know.  I've not had

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-12 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/12/18 12:49 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 9/11/18 8:28 pm, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 00:08 +, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 11/8/18 2:41 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 08:02 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > how is linux using GMT when

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 9/11/18 8:28 pm, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 00:08 +, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/8/18 2:41 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 08:02 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: how is linux using GMT when everything is running local. All Unix-based or

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 00:08 +, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/8/18 2:41 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 08:02 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > > > how is linux using GMT when everything is running local. > > > > All Unix-based or Unix-derived systems, including Linux, use

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-08 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/8/18 2:41 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 08:02 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: >> how is linux using GMT when everything is running local. > > All Unix-based or Unix-derived systems, including Linux, use GMT > internally, and have done since the very first versions back

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 08:02 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > how is linux using GMT when everything is running local. All Unix-based or Unix-derived systems, including Linux, use GMT internally, and have done since the very first versions back in the 70s. Even if you set your hardware clock to

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-08 Thread Stephen Morris
On 8/11/18 11:00 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/8/18 8:29 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: A lot of the timezones are symlinked to Etc/UTC and it's listed as "canonical", so perhaps we're both right. Nyaah! Tht! :-P I can live with that.  :-) I'm confused. If I have my linux desktops configured to

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/8/18 8:29 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > A lot of the timezones are symlinked to Etc/UTC and it's listed as > "canonical", so perhaps we're both right. Nyaah! Tht! :-P I can live with that.  :-) -- Fedora Users - The place to go to beat OT dead horses :-) :-)

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/8/18 7:55 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> Yes, HW clock set to GMT (well, technically UTC) for Linux is standard. >> The local time is computed based on your timezone. I have the HW clock >> set to UTC on all my machines and I see the correct local time in

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/8/18 7:55 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Yes, HW clock set to GMT (well, technically UTC) for Linux is standard. > The local time is computed based on your timezone. I have the HW clock > set to UTC on all my machines and I see the correct local time in my > logs. Well, we were talking about

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 2:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/8/18 5:31 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> Thanks Ed, I issued that command and fed the output into grep to search for >> tun0, and >> found messages saying that the device was successfully activated, and then >> about 30 >> seconds later a message

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/8/18 5:31 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > Thanks Ed, I issued that command and fed the output into grep to search for > tun0, and > found messages saying that the device was successfully activated, and then > about 30 > seconds later a message saying the connection timed out, and then almost a

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-07 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/11/18 10:17 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/7/18 5:43 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:     When I start one of the two vpn definitions, that have been in networkmanager for years and used to work fine (I haven't used them in quite a while), it starts and I get a pop-up message saying that

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/7/18 5:43 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >     When I start one of the two vpn definitions, that have been in > networkmanager for > years and used to work fine (I haven't used them in quite a while), it starts > and I get > a pop-up message saying that interface tun0 has been activated in the