Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-13 Thread manuelbarzi
struts is as c what wicket is as java (still beyond c++)

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-12 Thread Peter Ertl
Struts Club?! That's disgusting :-( Am 11.01.2010 um 22:57 schrieb Jonathan Locke: that's because it's the number one rule! nobody talks about Struts Club. igor.vaynberg wrote: here is an interesting tidbit wicket is on the front page of nabble http://old.nabble.com/

RE: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-12 Thread Loritsch, Berin C.
4:09 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers Hi, We also had the same consideration when we chose Wicket. But why choose an inferior technology just because of it's Adoption Numbers? Also, Wicket is becoming more and more popular as people

RE: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-12 Thread shetc
http://old.nabble.com/file/p2713/phb.jpg -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Help-with-Wicket-Adoption-Numbers-tp27069702p2713.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-12 Thread Jonathan Locke
you've got to admit it's a short distance between bloody fist fights in a basement for no purpose whatsoever and using struts. Peter Ertl-3 wrote: Struts Club?! That's disgusting :-( Am 11.01.2010 um 22:57 schrieb Jonathan Locke: that's because it's the number one rule! nobody

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread Leo . Erlandsson
As my English is not my mother's tongue, even though I do speak it pretty good, what is the meaning of pointy haired bosses? I think I can understand it, but hey, I want to know if these are the kinds of bosses I encountered too often.. It's from the Dilbert Comic Strip :) Wikipedia:

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread Bert
It a figure from the famous dilbert comics. here is an image of him: http://files.myopera.com/ThePast/albums/170779/pointy%20haired%20boss.jpg Enjoy On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 08:58, Eyal Golan egola...@gmail.com wrote: As my English is not my mother's tongue, even though I do speak it pretty

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
Message- From: leo.erlands...@tyringe.com [mailto:leo.erlands...@tyringe.com] Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:09 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers Hi, We also had the same consideration when we chose Wicket. But why choose an inferior

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread Lester Chua
they are eternal optimists. -Original Message- From: leo.erlands...@tyringe.com [mailto:leo.erlands...@tyringe.com] Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:09 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers Hi, We also had the same consideration when we chose Wicket

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
4:09 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers Hi, We also had the same consideration when we chose Wicket. But why choose an inferior technology just because of it's Adoption Numbers? Also, Wicket is becoming more and more popular as people see the light

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread manuelbarzi
@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers Hi, We also had the same consideration when we chose Wicket. But why choose an inferior technology just because of it's Adoption Numbers? Also, Wicket is becoming more and more popular as people see the light :) Check

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread Thies Edeling
The e-ticket application of the Dutch railways (NS) uses Wicket as well, https://www.ns.nl/eticket/ticket On 1/8/2010 10:32 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: The dutch railways use wicket in at least one of their online apps (http://eropuit.nl), I know some dutch government agencies are using

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread Igor Vaynberg
: leo.erlands...@tyringe.com [mailto:leo.erlands...@tyringe.com] Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:09 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers Hi, We also had the same consideration when we chose Wicket. But why choose an inferior technology just

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread Jonathan Locke
that's because it's the number one rule! nobody talks about Struts Club. igor.vaynberg wrote: here is an interesting tidbit wicket is on the front page of nabble http://old.nabble.com/ sorted by activity. we are there along maven, jquery, cxf, tomcat, etc. how is the adoption on

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread Lester Chua
: leo.erlands...@tyringe.com [mailto:leo.erlands...@tyringe.com] Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:09 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers Hi, We also had the same consideration when we chose Wicket. But why choose an inferior technology just because of it's

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-10 Thread Lester Chua
, January 08, 2010 4:09 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers Hi, We also had the same consideration when we chose Wicket. But why choose an inferior technology just because of it's Adoption Numbers? Also, Wicket is becoming more and more popular as people

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-10 Thread Eyal Golan
@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers Hi, We also had the same consideration when we chose Wicket. But why choose an inferior technology just because of it's Adoption Numbers? Also, Wicket is becoming more and more popular as people see the light :) Check out

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread Leo . Erlandsson
Hi, We also had the same consideration when we chose Wicket. But why choose an inferior technology just because of it's Adoption Numbers? Also, Wicket is becoming more and more popular as people see the light :) Check out Jobs Trends (Relative Growth) here (JSF vs Struts vs Wicket):

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread Martijn Dashorst
The dutch railways use wicket in at least one of their online apps (http://eropuit.nl), I know some dutch government agencies are using Wicket, dutch royal airlines (KLM) had/have a project using Wicket. Martijn On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:09 AM, leo.erlands...@tyringe.com wrote: Hi, We also

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread Pieter Degraeuwe
The Flemish Goverenemt (Belgium) has at least 2 intranet applications built on wicket. These are intranet applications, so I cannot give you some fancy urls. (but the apps are really fancy, I can assure you :-) ) Pieter On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Martijn Dashorst

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread Joseph Pachod
Lester Chua wrote: Hi, I am facing a hurdle that need crossing in my final attempt to push Wicket for use in an organization. I have: 1) Prototyped a small size module 2) Did 2-3 presentations on the key features and advantages of wicket No one is disputing my claims about productivity and

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
Do you mean this post? http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/HowToStartLearningJavaEE6 Ernesto On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Joseph Pachod j...@thomas-daily.de wrote: Lester Chua wrote: Hi, I am facing a hurdle that need crossing in my final attempt to push Wicket for use in an organization.

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread Joseph Pachod
Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro wrote: Do you mean this post? http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/HowToStartLearningJavaEE6 Ernesto On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Joseph Pachod j...@thomas-daily.de wrote: For example yes Gavin said so as well on others occasions (I kind of remember having read

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread Martin Makundi
, but it doesn't stop the pointy haired boss from trying.  In this respect they are eternal optimists. -Original Message- From: leo.erlands...@tyringe.com [mailto:leo.erlands...@tyringe.com] Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:09 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with Wicket

RE: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread shetc
Leo, I actually persuaded my then pointy haired boss to go with Wicket by putting together a side-by-side comparison of techniques required for creating JSF, Struts and Wicket-based applications. It was obvious that the Wicket approach was just plain out cleaner, and would save money in

RE: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread Jeffrey Schneller
Lester, While I can't show actual numbers that speak to adoption rate, we struggled with the same question. In the end we decided that it made sense and in the past 5 months have developed and deployed a web application for one of our clients and are 1.5 months into development for another

RE: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread Corbin, James
Have you considered Google Web Toolkit (GWT)? J.D. -Original Message- From: Lester Chua [mailto:cicowic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:44 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers Hi, I am facing a hurdle that need crossing in my final

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-08 Thread bht
Hi Lester, If you think your boss will not accept the benefits, then why not show him the risk of sticking with a technology (Struts) that is in decline? Then suddenly he shoulders the burden of making the desision of taking ownership of a sinking ship. Regards Bernard On Fri, 08 Jan 2010

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-07 Thread Scott Swank
The wiki has a list of some web sites that use Wicket. http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/websites-based-on-wicket.html A quick search of IBM shows approx 1,080 articles on Wicket: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:ibm.com+wicket Scott On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Lester Chua

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-07 Thread Steve Swinsburg
On the wiki there are some pages to help your cause: http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/websites-based-on-wicket.html http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/products-based-on-wicket.html as well as blogs talking about Wicket, and lots more useful PR info: http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/index.html All the

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-07 Thread Lester Chua
Thanks for the links. I have already submitted them as part of the evaluation process. I'll take a look at the IBM links from scott. Regards, Lester Steve Swinsburg wrote: On the wiki there are some pages to help your cause: http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/websites-based-on-wicket.html

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-07 Thread Igor Vaynberg
here is an interesting tidbit wicket is on the front page of nabble http://old.nabble.com/ sorted by activity. we are there along maven, jquery, cxf, tomcat, etc. how is the adoption on those? -igor On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Lester Chua cicowic...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the links.

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-07 Thread shetc
Hi Lester, I don't know if this helps but I work for a large staffing company called Spherion Corporation. Our most recent large applications have been created using Wicket. These projects have been delivered on-time, require low maintenance and have literally saved the company millions of

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-07 Thread Peter Thomas
Also the Apache Wicket LinkedIn group could be used to get a feel of companies using Wicket, at the moment there are 524 members and counting: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?viewMembers=gid=80181 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:30 AM, shetc sh...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Lester, I don't know if

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-07 Thread Lester Chua
You guys are AWESOME. I'm composing an email to the evaluator-in-charge from the tech committee. Hope all this is persuasive enough. Regards, Lester Peter Thomas wrote: Also the Apache Wicket LinkedIn group could be used to get a feel of companies using Wicket, at the moment there are 524

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-07 Thread Igor Vaynberg
ask them for their sources for adoption rates of struts 2, im curious. -igor On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Lester Chua cicowic...@gmail.com wrote: You guys are AWESOME. I'm composing an email to the evaluator-in-charge from the tech committee. Hope all this is persuasive enough. Regards,

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-07 Thread Peter Thomas
Just a thought, in my experience a lot of project teams end up choosing Struts2 thinking that it is a simple upgrade from Struts 1 and that existing in-house expertise in Struts 1 can be preserved. This line of thinking obviously appeals to management. Just in case, make it clear that Struts 2

Re: Help with Wicket Adoption Numbers

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Locke
yup. ibm is into it. i also think it's telling that wicket is a global phenomenon at this point... there are books on wicket in english (3), german (2), japanese (1) and chinese (1). and these are independent books, not localizations of one book. jon p.s. if your group needs advice, i