Re: [xwiki-users] TOC from other Page
Hi, > On 26 Sep 2016, at 18:26, Tomáš Skálawrote: > >> You should try it (even if not for this use case), just to see/feel the >> power of it. > > we will need organized lists with records soon, so we certainly will :) > >> FYI I’ve fixed and committed http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XRENDERING-240. >> You could get it by using a snapshot build, see >> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Download/DownloadOther/ > > Thanks again. It will be in the next 8.3 milestone/release I guess? I > personally don't have installation in my hands and our administrators are > reluctant to install hot versions (hoping RC won't be such problem since we > need it). XWiki 8.3RC1 has just been released now! :) FYI, the final version (8.3 final) is planned to be released on the 10th of October. Thanks -Vincent > TS ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] TOC from other Page
> You should try it (even if not for this use case), just to see/feel the power > of it. we will need organized lists with records soon, so we certainly will :) > FYI I’ve fixed and committed http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XRENDERING-240. > You could get it by using a snapshot build, see > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Download/DownloadOther/ Thanks again. It will be in the next 8.3 milestone/release I guess? I personally don't have installation in my hands and our administrators are reluctant to install hot versions (hoping RC won't be such problem since we need it). TS ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] TOC from other Page
Hi, > On 25 Sep 2016, at 13:12, tskalawrote: > > that {{context}} sounds like great solution for the needs. > > I thought about classes/objects before but it seemed like it would only > obfuscate texts making editability harder for no real gain (like replacing > wiki editor with simple text field for method description). You also have a textarea xproperty type which offers either the wiki editor or the wysiwyg editor. > Descriptions are heavily formatted, with its own signatures, macros and > examples (preview required). With "edit" button for each heading it makes > things nice and easy. Wiki itself is good way to make articles, compatible > with internal code commentaries/intellisense. You get something similar with forms and the edit button which is wired automatically to edit the form. > Life table, while it might solve merging records from multiple pages (not > clue how) It just queries all pages having xobjects of a given xclass, see http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Livetable+Macro > is quite worse then TOC (filtering method names is never required, > finding them with browser Ctrl+F works perfectly if needed and TOC takes > only fraction of space life table does so overview is more clear). Using the “TOC-way” is what you’d use in a standard first generation wiki (because there’s nothing else). In XWiki you are able to go much further with applications built using xclass, xobjects and xproperties. You should try it (even if not for this use case), just to see/feel the power of it. > Normally it would deserve it's own customized application. But that is the > part we chose to use wiki pages we have. Your choice, I can only make suggestions ;) FYI I’ve fixed and committed http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XRENDERING-240. You could get it by using a snapshot build, see http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Download/DownloadOther/ Thanks -Vincent > View this message in context: > http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/TOC-from-other-Page-tp7601369p7601379.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] TOC from other Page
that {{context}} sounds like great solution for the needs. I thought about classes/objects before but it seemed like it would only obfuscate texts making editability harder for no real gain (like replacing wiki editor with simple text field for method description). Descriptions are heavily formatted, with its own signatures, macros and examples (preview required). With "edit" button for each heading it makes things nice and easy. Wiki itself is good way to make articles, compatible with internal code commentaries/intellisense. Life table, while it might solve merging records from multiple pages (not clue how) is quite worse then TOC (filtering method names is never required, finding them with browser Ctrl+F works perfectly if needed and TOC takes only fraction of space life table does so overview is more clear). Normally it would deserve it's own customized application. But that is the part we chose to use wiki pages we have. -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/TOC-from-other-Page-tp7601369p7601379.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] TOC from other Page
Hi tskala, FYI I’ve researched it a bit more and I was able to patch the Context Macro to make it work with the toc macro. See http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XRENDERING-240?focusedCommentId=92733=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-92733 Example usage: {{context document="Sandbox.WebHome"}} {{toc/}} {{/context}} Now I'd need to research it a bit more to make sure my quick patch is correct (+ write unit tests for it). All that said, if you could use some structure/xclass as I mentioned in my previous reply, I think you’d be able to go further. Thanks -Vincent > On 25 Sep 2016, at 00:51, Vincent Massolwrote: > >> >> On 24 Sep 2016, at 23:50, tskala wrote: >> >>> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XRENDERING-240 >> >> not exactly sure but sounds like it would solve it. (Your comment about >> {{context}} macro sounds actually better. It could help with more things >> then just this.) >> >>> Could you explain your need since there may be other ways of achieving it? >> >> I would like to document widgets for our framework. And now I'm trying to >> deal with occasional inheritance. Reasonably easy to write for authors and >> readable for implementators. >> >> I changed TOC style so it looks similar to QuickNav here: >> http://api.jqueryui.com/dialog/ >> >> The "working" idea is to use one {{include}} for each property/method of >> base class. That way inherited content is shown on subclass page, TOC is >> ok, and we are happy. Downside is it requires to copy all those includes >> several times (base is heavy). And if there is new property/method in base >> class it is required to manually copy it into all descendants (not that many >> but still). >> >> So I was thinking. If I could just get TOC for base class into subclass >> page, it might be much better and easier. It would be always "up-to-date", >> you would see what makes subclass different, and if you click the base class >> TOC it will just take you to the base page heading, seeing all related >> properties/methods together. >> >> So my closest idea was something like this: >> >> {{display reference="baseClassPage" section="HbaseClass"/}} >> >> === subClass === >> {{TOC /}} > > I’m not entirely sure I fully understand but I think the canonical way of > doing this with XWiki is by creating some structure with xclasses, xobjects > and xsheets. > > Basically you create an xclass to represent a widget. You can also have an > xclass to represent a widget method (name + description + etc). > > Then on the home page, you use (for example) a LiveTable to display all > methods for all widgets. This gives you a nice searchable/filterable TOC :) > > WDYT? > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> View this message in context: >> http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/TOC-from-other-Page-tp7601369p7601371.html >> Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] TOC from other Page
> On 24 Sep 2016, at 23:50, tskalawrote: > >> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XRENDERING-240 > > not exactly sure but sounds like it would solve it. (Your comment about > {{context}} macro sounds actually better. It could help with more things > then just this.) > >> Could you explain your need since there may be other ways of achieving it? > > I would like to document widgets for our framework. And now I'm trying to > deal with occasional inheritance. Reasonably easy to write for authors and > readable for implementators. > > I changed TOC style so it looks similar to QuickNav here: > http://api.jqueryui.com/dialog/ > > The "working" idea is to use one {{include}} for each property/method of > base class. That way inherited content is shown on subclass page, TOC is > ok, and we are happy. Downside is it requires to copy all those includes > several times (base is heavy). And if there is new property/method in base > class it is required to manually copy it into all descendants (not that many > but still). > > So I was thinking. If I could just get TOC for base class into subclass > page, it might be much better and easier. It would be always "up-to-date", > you would see what makes subclass different, and if you click the base class > TOC it will just take you to the base page heading, seeing all related > properties/methods together. > > So my closest idea was something like this: > > {{display reference="baseClassPage" section="HbaseClass"/}} > > === subClass === > {{TOC /}} I’m not entirely sure I fully understand but I think the canonical way of doing this with XWiki is by creating some structure with xclasses, xobjects and xsheets. Basically you create an xclass to represent a widget. You can also have an xclass to represent a widget method (name + description + etc). Then on the home page, you use (for example) a LiveTable to display all methods for all widgets. This gives you a nice searchable/filterable TOC :) WDYT? Thanks -Vincent > View this message in context: > http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/TOC-from-other-Page-tp7601369p7601371.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] TOC from other Page
> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XRENDERING-240 not exactly sure but sounds like it would solve it. (Your comment about {{context}} macro sounds actually better. It could help with more things then just this.) > Could you explain your need since there may be other ways of achieving it? I would like to document widgets for our framework. And now I'm trying to deal with occasional inheritance. Reasonably easy to write for authors and readable for implementators. I changed TOC style so it looks similar to QuickNav here: http://api.jqueryui.com/dialog/ The "working" idea is to use one {{include}} for each property/method of base class. That way inherited content is shown on subclass page, TOC is ok, and we are happy. Downside is it requires to copy all those includes several times (base is heavy). And if there is new property/method in base class it is required to manually copy it into all descendants (not that many but still). So I was thinking. If I could just get TOC for base class into subclass page, it might be much better and easier. It would be always "up-to-date", you would see what makes subclass different, and if you click the base class TOC it will just take you to the base page heading, seeing all related properties/methods together. So my closest idea was something like this: {{display reference="baseClassPage" section="HbaseClass"/}} === subClass === {{TOC /}} -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/TOC-from-other-Page-tp7601369p7601371.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] TOC from other Page
Hi Tskala, > On 24 Sep 2016, at 14:35, tskalawrote: > > Probably easy for someone familiar with API. Actually it’s not that easy ;) We have an open issue for implementing this (if we’re talking about the same thing): http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XRENDERING-240 So you wish to display the TOC for another page but without including that other page’s content, is that it? Could you explain your need since there may be other ways of achieving it? Thanks -Vincent > How can I display TOC from other page? Played with {{include}}, {{display}}, > {{context}} but none gives results. ( {{display}} is close if it had > original page as a context instead of "new".) All I get is heading and empty > (or current page) TOC. > > There must be a way with some velocity based rendering and cropping specific > header but have no idea how. > > Thanks > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/TOC-from-other-Page-tp7601369.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users