Dear all:
It's not often I agree with Stephen Humphreys, but on this occasion I think
he's right. I once wrote an article for the UKMA Newsletter, suggesting that
we might need to make more use of what I call the 'vernacular' in our use of SI
for the everyday person. That using metric must be
Perhaps I can add how Canada's metrication was promoted, at least initially,
back in the early/mid 1970s. There was (and to some extent still is) a great
antipathy towards the USA, especially in the area of what was called the USA's
"cultural imperialism", something that Canada's prime minister
The US and Canadian coins (1c, 5c, 10c and 25c) are nominally the same,
certainly same diameter and thickness, but differences in metals used in their
manufacture mean that they are not always interchangable in vending machines
and the like. As the Canadians coins are (usually - current week ex
- Original Message -
From: John Frewen-Lord
To: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [USMA:47151] Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?
Even the British Murdoch-controlled newspapers, which resolutely give all
dimensions in imperial
EADS (Airbus parent) have confirmed that they will be putting in a bid (for the
third time) for the Pentagon's air refueling tankers, based on the A330 tanker
now flying for the Australian military. The A330 is of course an all metric
plane. The US military I understand works in metric. The
In January 2009, I wrote an article in the UKMA's Metric Views, suggesting that
we have to make metric 'user friendly' if we want to get people to use it in
every day speech. This may mean accepting various colloquialisms. This is an
excerpt from that article, and reinforces what Ezra has just
I fully endorse free speech. However, having said that, you have to put that
principle in the context of the forum concerned. Yes, let's have lots of
debate on HOW to metricate, WHO to metricate, even WHY to metricate. But a
discussion on WHETHER to metricate? Doesn't make sense to me on thi
I've just sent off the following letter to Hammond, cc to David Cameron (prime
minister), Nick Clegg (deputy PM) as well as my own MP (also anti-metric). You
might notice a trace of sarcasm here and there...
Philip Hammond: Secretary of State for Transport
Houses of Parliament
Dear Mr Hammon
Paul:
I can't believe what you said in your third sentence - it was tongue-in-cheek,
right?
This of course is the old argument that has been used over and over again by
opponents of converting to metric speed limits - it will be too
dangerous/confusing/hazardous, etc.
All wrong, of course. I
>From the BBC website today, 2010 06 17:
"There was a time when many of Europe's leaders and Eurocrats trembled at the
thought of David Cameron as prime minister. They imagined long painful
negotiations with an administration determined to roll-back the EU's powers and
block mission creep from
I checked some books and magazines (North American and UK). Most type size
(upper case, as well as letters with upper extenders) is between 2.0 and 2.5
mm. Larger for headlines, etc.
John F-L
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From: John M. Steele
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Monday, Jun
I was thinking about Pat's terminology for old, superseded non-metric
measurements, and looked through all the various terms suggested - WOMBATs,
FFUs, etc.
I came up with SAMs - Stone Age Measurements.
I've found it quite effective - just slightly derogatory without causing
offence, often met
Interesting that this is a Canadian blog.
John F-L
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From: Pat Naughtin
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:32 PM
Subject: [USMA:47927] Cars and the metric system
Dear All,
This guy needs to be supported.
http://allans-p
I've just made a couple of jigs for a project I'm working on, involving cutting
sheets of heavy card to precision of less than 1 mm (actually, nearer 0.2 to
0.4 mm). The jigs were made out of hardwood. Everything was done in metric
or course, but I just don't even know how I'd even begin to g
I think showing the weight of eggs is a good idea - in addition to the other
information already currently shown (number). But forcing eggs to be sold in
specific quantities seems to fly in the face of the previous legislation that
came into force this year that allows a free-for-all in package
Been back in the UK a couple of days. Been a heatwave here, and today
temperatures are in the upper 20s. Went for a haircut, local barbershop,
old building in centre of Grimsby. Three girls doing hair, all likely on
minimum wage (this is NOT an upmarket establishment!), none of them likely
Re: [USMA:48045] Re: KG3U unitsI still prefer SAMS (Stone Age Measurements).
Short neat acronym.
John F-L
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From: Patrick Moore
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:44 PM
Subject: [USMA:48053] Re: KG3U units
In science and enginee
Does America not adopt the metric system out of sheer bloody-mindedness? On
the BP oil spill, this article I find very telling (mostly imperial
unfortunately). The UK is not much better, at least at governmental level.
The day America changes its attitude to the rest of the world (of which SI
Many of you will have read my somewhat sarcastic (or satiric, depending on your
point of view!) letter to Philip Hammond (see Pat Naughtin's Metrication
Matters 86 for the full text), regarding his proposal to phase out use of
metric measures in the UK DoT. I have received a reply from Judith T
Hmmm, that's like asking should the Pope go to church. Americans will, one
day, realise that going metric is the right thing to do - and then they will do
it in no time flat. It's just waiting for that day to arrive...
John F-L
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From: Pat Naughtin
To: U.S. M
We have a property mil(l) rate in Canada also - but with two 'l's'.
Calculated the same way.
The mil is used in construction, meaning 6/1000 of an inch . e.g. 6 mil
polyethylene vapour barrier.
John F-L
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From: "Patrick Moore"
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
Sen
How about a Megon?
- Original Message -
From: John M. Steele
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:37 AM
Subject: [USMA:48328] Re: A Nanon? Is that a REALLY small moron?
"Micron" was so widely accepted and used that I checked. It was once
accept
As the originator of this thread, I have to agree with this comment about
coins and banknotes - today's high(er) value coin is no different, in terms
of spending power, than the lower value coins were 50 or more years ago.
Personally, I like the £1 and £2 coins (UK) and the $1 and $2 coins
(
Regarding the comment (by Cartleton I think) about which US$1 he preferred.
For everything below the $1, Canada's and the US's coins (quarters, dimes,
nickels, cents) are more or less interchangeable. I have no idea who was
first, but likely it was the US, and Canada, always happy to adopt som
I've often wondered why McDonalds doesn't rename its 'Quarter Pounder' to
something on the lines of 'Big One Hundred' or something similar (" ...a full
100 grams of fresh beef"). Most customers would not notice the approx. 12%
reduction in meat content, and McDonalds would save that amount
The same could be said for Canada - a country which has had to adopt the best
ideas from around the world to stay in the race, as it were, as well as create
its own leading-edge concepts and ideas (e.g. the Canadarm, used on the Space
Shuttle - or, at a rather mundane level, mandatory daytime ru
May I add something to this from both the Canadian and British perspectives.
I, including family members, owned something like 30 ot 40 vehicles in the
period from 1977 to 1999 in Canada. Plus I drove/rented, or was driven in,
countless others, in the USA and Canada (and Mexico - scary driving
Regarding the inner cities youth expertise with metric, maybe American
authorities could get these youths to teach the rest of the population. Double
bonus - increase metric education at a grass roots level, AND give these youths
a meaning in their life.
John F-L
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In the UK, the 'greetre' or 'meetre' would be found in ASDA ('part of the
Wal-Mart' family').
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: "James R. Frysinger"
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: [USMA:48602] Re: metre or meter
One greets you at
The BBC website business section today contained an article regarding some new
high speed trains, produced by Siemens, for the Eurostar services between
London and Paris and London and Brussels. The article was mostly metric,
although it showed the speed as "320 km per hour (200 mph)", and that
One of the things that can be done to promote the significance of this special
date (and the existence of the 1000-kg gorilla) is to EMPHASIZE, in no small
measure, that 10-10-10 stands for (20)10-10-10 - 2010 October 10.
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Paul Trusten
To: U.S
While good as far as it goes, this study is based on far too much dated
material (1970s) to properly reflect today's realities, while not really
telling us much we didn't already know. Many of the arguments against highway
metrication put foward in the 1970s have since been proven to be fallaci
The world is full of ignorant people.. (sigh).
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Pat Naughtin
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:26 AM
Subject: [USMA:48644] How much tonnes equal to 1 metric ton?
Dear All,
It is a bit sad when one n
The webpage that opened when I clicked on the 'didyouknow' link had two ads for
Continental Airlines. The first one was a banner ad, but was tailored for the
UK (obviously Google AdSense) as when I clicked on it all flights were from the
UK or ROI to various US destinations, and were shown in G
When I hear a reference to '26 miles', I am always remined of the old Four
Preps pop song 26 Miles, ca. 1958. The song starts off as:
'Twenty six miles across the sea
Santa Catalina is awating for me
Santa Catalina, the island of romanceetc etc.
In that song, about two thirds of the way thr
Didn't we do this some little while ago?
- Original Message -
From: Pat Naughtin
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:00 PM
Subject: [USMA:48872] Metric System Thriving In Nation's Inner Cities
Dear All,
http://www.theonion.com/articles/metric
John, how long did it take you to work out and write all this stuff? A fair
bit of time I would wager.
None of this would be necessary in a metric only world.
Gives some indication of the lost productivity experienced by the US (and to
some extent the UK) on a daily basis by having all these c
There is a way to get the US predominantly metric in 10 years. It involves that
sure-fire way of making progress in anything - money and time.
The concept is quite simple, and consists of getting schoolchildren when they
are around 10 or 11 years old to make a simple choice: Embark on their
se
s arising from
this, an
- funding.
Jim
On 2010-11-22 0950, John Frewen-Lord wrote:
There is a way to get the US predominantly metric in 10 years. It
involves that sure-fire way of making progress in anything - money and
time.
The concept is quite simple, and consists of getting schoolchildren
>From the link given below:
"So, how does the EPA calculate mpg for an electric car? Nissan's presser says
the EPA uses a formula where 33.7 kWhs are equivalent to one gallon of gasoline
energy. Also, the EPA determined the Leaf's efficiency is 3.4 miles per kWh,
another number you can easily b
"Units of emission should be in units of CO2 emitted in g/km (the same
units
that are used in Europe). "
Including the UK.
John F-L
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From: "Martin Vlietstra"
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 8:24 PM
Subject: [USMA:48936] RE: Met
As the Phelps report pointed out many years ago, so much time wasted in
schools having to learn two systems. And what does it gain in the end?
John F-L
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From:
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:27 PM
Subject: [USMA:48952] Re: Metr
Dear all:
This video is a hypothetical enactment of what will happen when the dollar no
longer is the world's reserve currency. It projects this happening as early as
2012 - two years from now.
http://www.bullsource.com/nia-projects-the-day-the-dollar-died/
The interesting thing about this, f
It's a good article Pat in the link you provided, and perhaps I can add a
couple of (anecdotal) items supporting your premise:
1. Canadian architects and engineers that I worked with would openly quote two
fee schedules for routine activities such as preparing shop or detail drawings,
one for
A good friend of mine is a professional engineer in Ontario, working for a
company that designs and manufactures parts and sub-assemblies for mostly the
automotive sector but occasionally other industries as well. Almost all of
their work is in SI (as it would be for the auto sector - GM, Honda
Ooops! In my last email I stated: They had to convert all Boeing's dimensions
to imperial equivalents.
That of course should have read: They had to convert all Boeing's dimensions
to metric equivalents.
John F-L
I really hate the term 'metrification'!
How about using 'pseudo-metrication'?
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Moore"
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:59 PM
Subject: [USMA:49096] Re: USA Treasury defines metrication
Since we do not shr
Having worked in the building industry for a number of decades as a quantity
surveyor/cost consultant, much (but far from all) of it SI in both Canada
and the UK, millimetres makes the most sense. The centimetre is too big to
be used without having to use decimals of a centimere - in which case
It is not solely about tolerances, though they can be critical in certain
operations. For example, a steel beam, pre-drilled with say 6 holes each
end, and designed to bolt on to a column at each end also pre-drilled, may
be 10 000 [10 m] or even 15 000 [15 m] long, yet the tolerance may be no
"I'm so happy that Dodge is dropping the whole 'metric' engine displacement
designations for this vehicle. They should do this for the Ram's as well.
392 cubic inches.."
And the inch is officially defined as?? If only they knew!
John F-L
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From: Pat Naught
I cannot help but think that the term 'metric ton' should be deprecated.
All SI units (with the exception of degree Celsius) are single name units.
Consequently their symbols are either usually single letters, or at most two
letters where the first is capitalized (e.g Pa). The main exception is
The Bahamas - most cars are left hand drive, even though they drive on the
left. The rental cars I had there (one in Nassau, one in Freeport) both had
mph-predominant speedometers, odometers in miles. Fuel sold by the imperial
gallon (4.54 L). Speed limits in mph, but I was told that is about
Quite simply, and I speak as someone who has spent many years in the
construction industry, DO NOT USE DECIMALS! Decimal points get lost as
construction drawings become soiled with dirt and concrete splatters, so
that 12.3 cm can all too easily be read as 123 cm [1.23 m]. And when
carpenters
As we like to shorten the way we say things, like our body dimensions (such as
saying that your are 'five-ten' tall and weigh 'one seventy five'), this makes
sense - you can describe your height as 'one eighty five'. Whether that is
1.85 m or 185 cm, they come to the same thing.
John F-L
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Dear all:
In Canada, after a brief period of hard conversion, most construction has
reverted to soft conversion, simply because of some need for compatibility with
the huge US market next door.
Wood studs are mostly soft converted imperial dimensioned - a "2x4" becomes a
"39x89". Although mos
Ontario, Canada, has also just recently implemented a law on the same lines - 1
m clearance between your car and a cyclist. It came in for some criticism when
cyclists are trying to negotiate roads where the road is already reduced in
width due to snow build-up, and a 1 m gap puts the car into
Being that this is a Canadian article, I would hazard a guess that it is 4 L -
but that is a guess. The reason I suggest 4 L is that windshield washer fluid,
paint and some other liquid products are sold in 4 L containers, and these have
been known to be colloquially referred to as a metric gal
Don't forget also that I believe this situation regarding 'metric' gallons
occurred in Newfoundland (the article makes reference to Gander). Nfld only
joined Conferation in 1949, and there are some there who still don't accept
that and feel that they were somehow 'sold out'.
And while the resi
On Bahn's website at
http://www.bahn.com/i/view/DEU/en/trains/overview/ecic.shtml, which is in
English, the speed of the trains described is shown as 200 km/h.
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Martin Vlietstra
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 10:
[mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of
John Frewen-Lord
Sent: 01 January 2011 12:03
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:49380] RE: High speed rail error
On Bahn's website at
http://www.bahn.com/i/view/DEU/en/trains/overview/ecic.shtml, which is in
English, the spe
I assume John your 3x5 card is - cm (a bit small), mm (way too small), meters
(way too big)? You wouldn't be using any other measurement units, would you?
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: John M. Steele
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 8:24 PM
Su
On the BBC news (radio) yesterday, they played an interview with a resident of
Rockhampton, who stated that the water depth was already "eight point six
metres and still rising - much more and we'll have to evacuate".
John F-L
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From: Pat Naughtin
To: U.S. Metr
Horror! Reporter has culture shock!The American view of the world! Anything
not as America does it is non-standard, wrong, etc, etc. Reminds me of an old
quip my mother once told me, about when I was in the Scouts, and we were
marching in some parade. I was out of step, and got severely repr
>From the Toronto Star - a big move of a beer fermenter from Germany to
>Toronto. Article, as is normal for Canadian newspapers, totally metric
>(listen up, British press), and the only sour note is the use of kgs instead
>of kg in the Toronto Star generated graphic..
John F-L
http://www.the
R value is thermal resistance in imperial/USC units. The equivalent in SI
is RSI, which is what is used in Canada. From Wikipedia:
Around most of the world, R-values are given in SI units, typically
square-metre kelvins per watt or m²·K/W (or equivalently to m²·°C/W). In the
United States cu
Excellent letter Paul - but will the President of the USA ever get to read it
for himself?
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Paul Trusten
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 6:08 PM
Subject: [USMA:49629] U.S. changeover to the metric system of meas
In respect of Item No 2, emphasize that there is a financial PAYBACK for the
whole country (as well as the individual contributors) in not having to deal
with dual measures (and there are probably some who don't realise that there is
no such thing as USC-only). As the Phelps study showed, there
My son, who lives about 120 km north of Toronto, Ontario, sent me this picture
a week ago. -35 C - now THAT's cold.
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Pat Naughtin
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:12 AM
Subject: [USMA:49707] Re: And a Canadian s
I think the error in these calculations was pointed out before, but just to
recap..
Snow is 10% density of rain (agreed - this is an average figure, but is used,
for example, in National Building Code of Canada short form calculations).
Therefore 80 cm of snow - 8 cm of rain = 80 mm of rai
A famous English author, Arnold Bennett (1867-1931), made a number of
quotations, one of which was:
"Any change, even a change for the better, is always accompanied by drawbacks
and discomforts."
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Pat Naughtin
To: U.S. Metric Association
Se
BBC article on NASA Stardust spacecraft Tempel 1 flyby. 100% SI and not a
conversion to be seen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12433138
John F-L
When I lived in Canada, we sometimes would grade our snow as slushy, fluffy,
crunchy, squeaky.
Slushy - 0 to -3.
Fluffy - -3 to -12.
Crunchy - -12 to -25.
Squeaky - anything below -25.
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Pat Naughtin
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Wednesda
I go back to my (private) note to Paul when he originally came out with this
calculation - the rain/snow ratio can be expressed simply as 0.07.
No units. This is the way we use scales in architecture (and engineering,
quantity surveying, etc). Unlike imperial (e.g 1/8th inch = 1 foot), we
ex
Correction to my previous email - that was to Jim F, not Paul T.
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: "Martin Vlietstra"
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:04 PM
Subject: [USMA:49877] Re: Snow ratios
Hi Pat,
All the snow reports that I have seen quo
Indeed, in North America, masonry sizes are 'nominal', and the actual sizes
allow for a 10 mm mortar joint. That is true whether the units are dimensioned
in metric or imperial.
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Bill Hooper
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Sunday, February
As all construction in the UK is metric, I don't see how Westinghouse is going
to be able to design a structure in imperial units. All UK engineering codes
are metric (and limit states as well, which inherently are metric), and no
engineer in the UK can design to these codes using non-metric ca
Well, the ride took about 3 min 15 s, which at 2 km yields and average speed of
37 km/h. That is probably not far off as an average, although I'm sure he was
going a lot faster than that for much of the course. I would estimate an
average grade of around 5 to 6%, so 2 km at say 6% does give 12
Whenever I get a message that starts with 'Dear Friend', I know at best that
it's some crappy salesman trying to sell me something, at worst an insult
from someone who can't even be bothered to look up my name. Very
disappointing.
John F-L
- Original Message -
From:
To: "U.S. Met
The National Building Code of Canada specifies all ventilation, air supply and
air extraction rates in either L/s or m3/s. Hope this helps.
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Remek Kocz
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:36 PM
Subject: [USMA:50087]
typical numbers in L/s or in m^3/s for home ventilation, for
home heating and cooling systems, and for smaller fans (e.g. in
computers)?
Original message
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:16:19 -
From: "John Frewen-Lord"
Subject: [USMA:50092] Re: PC Case fans & flow measurements
To
Isn't "US Colonial" an oxymoron?
John F-L
- Original Message -
From:
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:10 PM
Subject: [USMA:50142] Re: 'Words' and their impact on metrication in the USA
Pierre,
Perhaps the CIPM and CIPM will add the bit and shannon, a
I believe (but don't know for sure) that a technical barrier to trade is
defined as a requirement placed on an imported item that local domestic
manufacturers ans suppliers do not have to meet or adhere to. As long as ALL
manufacturers or suppliers have to meet a requirement, then it is not a
I know that in both Canada and the UK, where the use of the Celsius scale is
now virtually universal (notwithstanding the anti-metric efforts of newspapers
like the Daily Mail), people in casual conversation usually use only 'degrees',
without identifying the scale. Even my 88 year old mother u
Sadly, the comment that Remek makes, "Why adjust our product to the
world--let's make the world adjust to it." is the American way. I come cross
it so often. Take Windows - those of us in other countries have to spend quite
some time adjusting our settings to measurement and date formats from
Paul:
May I echo James' welcome to this group. I'll keep my background simple. I'm
a retired quantity surveyor (construction cost consultant/economist), and lived
in Canada for 30 years before returning to my 'homeland' (UK) for personal
reasons. I was part of Canada's conversion to SI in th
The BBC this morning carried an article on a private rocket launcher by SpaceX,
based in California. The article, at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12975872 , is metric with
colonial units in parentheses, including dimensions, and thrust (correctly
specified in meganewtons). Th
The change in Canada from (imperial, not US) gallons was the cause (or at least
one of the causes) of the stalling of the completion of Canada's conversion to
metric. A 'metric martyr' wanted to keep his pumps in gallons, notwithstanding
the change in the law requiring all fuel to be dispensed
And this is exactly how Canadian and UK stations also display their signs.
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Paul Trusten
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 9:57 PM
Subject: [USMA:50326] RE: U.S. gasoline prices
Australian gas pumps list the prices
Pity they had to say it was for science nerds and teachers. Those of us
other parts of the world know no other way of measuring fluids.
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Moore"
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:43 PM
Subject: [USMA:50343] c
You are S lucky! Pump price for diesel in the UK right now: GBP£1.40/L =
US$2.28/L. Just completed a round trip to see my ailing mother 400 km away.
My car gets 7.8 L/100 km, so total trip fuel cost for the 800 km = circa.
US$142. Still, nothing like high fuel prices to reduce fuel cons
Warwick Cairns bemoans the supposed loss of tradition and history in the UK and
US by fully adopting the metric system, and that the UK and US would become
less ‘British’ and 'American' as a result. I think he is wrong in making that
assumption. I found Australia to be just as Australian as it a
I did pick up on that at the time - busy on other things, so didn't get
around to questioning it!
Cheers
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: "James R. Frysinger"
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:19 PM
Subject: [USMA:50404] Re: FAQs now on "the New SI"
Interesting that you used toothpaste as an example. Everywhere I've seen
(especially, UK, Canada, Australia, EU), toothpaste is sold in mL, not g. Is
toothpaste sold by mass in the US, not volume? Or is that 'oz' number a
shortened version of floz? Again, another reason to dump that old coll
Thanks for this Pat. This is actually my neck of the woods (N E Lincolnshire)
- I never realised we were so retarded! I have added my own comment, which
should show up by now.
Cheers
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Pat Naughtin
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Thursda
The problem in getting America (and Britain) to embrace a metric culture:
"Whoever controls the media, the images, controls the culture."
Allen Ginsberg
Born today 1926
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Interesting that Jim.
I have actually written a novel, a bit of a thriller (loosely based on a
true story, action takes place in 5 countries on both sides of the
Atlantic). Not a whole lot of measurements in there, but all those that are
in there are of course metric.
Available on Kindle fo
Absolutely right Martin - what has W&M to do with the UK/EU political
situation? Yes, the EU does impose some rules regarding displaying units of
measure, but for the most part it takes a back seat in this - witness the
almost complete deregulation of package sizes.
What needs to be done regar
Mr Humphreys is proving himself to be a bit of a liar in his anti-metric
campaign (to the point that I might even consider suing him for libel...).
I have a book published on Amazon's Kindle site - "Metric Made Me Sick (But I'm
Better Now)". There is a US version on Amazon.com, and a UK version
"No designer I know of who has successfully transitioned to the metric unit
system for PCB layout wants to go back to the imperial unit system. That
statement alone says it all."
That surely is true for everything. This is what was said in the British
Parliament when the British were first con
ly give it
much thought - as you say, it has to be VERY consumer-friendly, but that is
something that appeals to me very much,
Cheers
John F-L
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From: Kilopascal
To: John Frewen-Lord ; U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 12:50 PM
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