RE: [vchkpw] QMail + Vpopmail vs. Postfix + Cyrus IMAP
-Original Message- From: Rainer Duffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vchkpw] QMail + Vpopmail vs. Postfix + Cyrus IMAP Am Mi, den 08.09.2004 schrieb Michael Bowe um 23:20: But! whenever I demonstrate the vpopmail software to any of the guys at my new place of employment, they are the ones who are marvelling at the ease of use and features of vpopmail. Indeed. Postfix _is_ nice (cyrus is debatable, IMO), but what use is a mailserver without any webinterface for customers to add/modify/delete their users? There are lots of bits and pieces around, but no complete package. Just compare what is available to postfix with qmail+patches^3+vpopmail+qmailadmin and see which one you want to start with. cheers, Rainer -- === ~ Rainer Duffner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~ Freising - Munich - Germany ~ ~Unix - Linux - BSD - OpenSource - Security ~ ~ http://www.ultra-secure.de/~rainer/pubkey.pgp ~ === Somehow I worry the discussion of MTA+MDA will venture to an evangelistic argument/discussion (much like that between linux/windows/mac etc). When we first came to the need for a more powerful MTA back in 1999, qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin seemed to be the best features wise, and administration wise. In dealing with the ever growing spam, a re-evaluation in 2003 lead us to believe that qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin still had a slight edge over the others, including postfix. As Rainer said, it seems that postfix has more upfront, but it still seems that qmail can be patched very well. Currently, I'm running qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin, qmail-scanner w/ClamAV, mailfilter invoking SpamAssassin for userbased SA. Qmails only holdback is the lack of development (but does a stable secure MTA need development?), patches add features as needed. But, its not like MTA requirements has changed over the years, it's the MDA, and that's easy to plug something else in its place. --joey
RE: [vchkpw] warning: dropping connection, unable to read /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb: access denied
Title: Message -Original Message-From: Itamar Reis Peixoto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:46 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [vchkpw] warning: dropping connection, unable to read /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb: access denied tcpserver: warning: dropping connection, unable to read /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb: access denied Itamar Reis PeixotoAnalista ConsultorTreyNet Consultoria - UberlândiaTel : + 55 34 3231 0598Cel: +55 38 9107 1250http://www.treynet.com.br check your permissionsfrom /home/vpopmail down to /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb... making sure its ownership vpopmail:vchkpw and one thing i've noticed is you need permissions 755 down to /home/vpopmail/etc/ and 644 on tcp.smtp.cdb. --joey
RE: [vchkpw] chaning passwords
-Original Message- From: Alexandre Vieira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [vchkpw] chaning passwords Hello folks, I'm running qmail(smtpd+pop3d)+vpopmail in my FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE system and I wanted to know if there is any possible way to give the mail users the power to change theyr virtual account password. My clients are arguing because they have to send an email to the sysadmin to change passwords and that is not convenient. thanks alot! http://www.mail-archive.com/vchkpw%40inter7.com/msg19253.html This was *JUST* discussed But an alternative that I use: squirrelmail+vpopmail plugin: http://www.squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=103
RE: [vchkpw] chaning passwords
-Original Message- From: Alexandre Vieira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vchkpw] chaning passwords Joseph Schmitt II wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexandre Vieira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [vchkpw] chaning passwords Hello folks, I'm running qmail(smtpd+pop3d)+vpopmail in my FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE system and I wanted to know if there is any possible way to give the mail users the power to change theyr virtual account password. My clients are arguing because they have to send an email to the sysadmin to change passwords and that is not convenient. thanks alot! http://www.mail-archive.com/vchkpw%40inter7.com/msg19253.html This was *JUST* discussed But an alternative that I use: squirrelmail+vpopmail plugin: http://www.squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=103 Hello, Thanks for your input but I wasn't explicit enough. We use a non-browsing services, it's just simple smtp/pop3 with no panels. However, this users have shell access to the server and I was thinking that maybe there were a way to modify passwords with the bin/vchangepw but when i use it as a regular user it gives me the following error (and yes the user exists): %/usr/local/vpopmail/bin/vchangepw Please enter the email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enter old password: Please enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: enter password again: Error: Illegal username % [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/vpopmail]# bin/vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$zAJePsFq$.1xA6YSFPeqanov4WvqRQ0 clear passwd: uid:1 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: Username limits: No user limits set. dir: /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/domain.tld/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Thu Sep 9 01:25:36 2004 last auth ip: 127.0.0.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/vpopmail]# If anyone has any light on this one i would apreciate. Thanks alot! Ownership of vchangepw probably wont allow normal users to run, and you most likely wouldn't want that for security reasons. You could make your own perl script (suid vpopmail:vchkpw), and when run, prompt for the full email addres, prompt the old password to check, and upon success, accept the new password that you could then pass to the vpopmail perl module (below), system the vchangepw, or just make the changes to mysql (if you're using) with perl DBI. There is a really old perl module that might still work here: http://bluedot.net/projects/vpopmail.html --joey
RE: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
(http://www.credentia.cc/research/surveys/smtp/200304/) 8244 38.78% Sendmail 3707 17.44% Microsoft IIS/Other 1981 9.32% qmail Shows qmail in the number 3 slot. I'm hoping you don't consider MS IIS/SMTP service as a MDA... And remember as a MTA, it probably has no real associated users. As I stated, we are an ISP, not an end user. I think our stats will tend to reflect what the majority of ISP (hence majority of high volume mail servers) are using. Something like this could use a central DB repository handling unique IPs/MTA Setup accounts for the IPS/groups who'd use it with a profile... I'm not sure where to get the MTA info from, but if that's figured easily, I could front some DB space... --joey
