RE: [vchkpw] Spamassassin + Clamav Antivirus + vpopmail

2004-01-28 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 15:57, Tom Walsh wrote:
  I know qmail-scanner.pl, but is this a fast method ? 
  Meanwhile.. My Spamassassin needs aproximately 10 seconds for 
  scanning one message. Is this the normal duration ?
 
 I use a known spam message as a test bed for tuning performance of our
 SpamAssassin installation.
 
 You can run:
 
 cat /path/to/known/spam/message | spamassassin -D

you should be using spamc and not spamassassin.

spamd/spamc is a much better combination, especially on heavily loaded
servers.

-Jeremy

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RE: [vchkpw] Spamassassin + Clamav Antivirus + vpopmail

2004-01-28 Thread Tom Walsh
 On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 15:57, Tom Walsh wrote:
   I know qmail-scanner.pl, but is this a fast method ?
   Meanwhile.. My Spamassassin needs aproximately 10 seconds for 
   scanning one message. Is this the normal duration ?
  
  I use a known spam message as a test bed for tuning 
 performance of our 
  SpamAssassin installation.
  
  You can run:
  
  cat /path/to/known/spam/message | spamassassin -D
 
 you should be using spamc and not spamassassin.
 
 spamd/spamc is a much better combination, especially on 
 heavily loaded servers.

Jeremy,

While you are completely right spamc/spamd are a better combination for
performance, there are no debugging abilities in spamc/spamd where as
there are many debugging functionalities in the standalone spamassassin
script.

The purpose of my example was to help troubleshoot a slow spamassassin
installation, not to provide a working solution to the problem.

I stand by the fact that running spamassassin with the -D comamndline
switch is an effective method of testing spamassassin and the various
checks that SA performs.

Tom Walsh
Network Administrator
http://www.ala.net/




Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin + Clamav Antivirus + vpopmail

2004-01-28 Thread Mark Woodson
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 08:07 am, Tom Walsh wrote:
[snip]
   You can run:
  
   cat /path/to/known/spam/message | spamassassin -D
 
  you should be using spamc and not spamassassin.
 
  spamd/spamc is a much better combination, especially on
  heavily loaded servers.

 Jeremy,

 While you are completely right spamc/spamd are a better combination
 for performance, there are no debugging abilities in spamc/spamd
 where as there are many debugging functionalities in the standalone
 spamassassin script.

 The purpose of my example was to help troubleshoot a slow
 spamassassin installation, not to provide a working solution to the
 problem.

 I stand by the fact that running spamassassin with the -D
 comamndline switch is an effective method of testing spamassassin
 and the various checks that SA performs.

While that is certainly true, telling spamd to run in the foreground 
(not adding -d), and to turn on debugging -D is an option, and I'm 
not sure that it differs at all from running spamassassin -D.

From man spamd:

NAME
   spamd - daemonized version of spamassassin

SYNOPSIS
   spamd [options]

   Options:

[snip]
-d, --daemonizeDaemonize
[snip]
-D, --debugPrint debugging messages
[snip]

-Mark



RE: [vchkpw] Spamassassin + Clamav Antivirus + vpopmail

2004-01-27 Thread Tom Walsh
 If anybody is interested in some of the performance tweaks 
 we have made 
 to SA, please let me know.

Due to the response I got from this post... I have created a down and
dirty SA config page...

Please keep in mind these are only configuration tweaks... Not actually
changes to the SA software.

As always SA is limited by your CPU first, Memory second, and network
connection third.

Anyways here are the tweaks web page:

http://www.expresshosting.net/howto/sa.html

Tom Walsh




[vchkpw] Spamassassin + Clamav Antivirus + vpopmail

2004-01-26 Thread knom
Hi people !

I want to install Spamassassin and Clam Antivirus with vpopmail !
Do you suggest any high speed scanning tool ?

I know qmail-scanner.pl, but is this a fast method ? Meanwhile.. My
Spamassassin needs aproximately 10 seconds for scanning one message.
Is this the normal duration ?

My homegrown Mailserver uses vpopmail/qmail and has about 200 Mails per
day :)

Thanks very much,
knom.




Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin + Clamav Antivirus + vpopmail

2004-01-26 Thread Ken Jones
On Monday 26 January 2004 3:22 pm, knom wrote:
 Hi people !

 I want to install Spamassassin and Clam Antivirus with vpopmail !
 Do you suggest any high speed scanning tool ?

 I know qmail-scanner.pl, but is this a fast method ? Meanwhile.. My
 Spamassassin needs aproximately 10 seconds for scanning one message.
 Is this the normal duration ?

 My homegrown Mailserver uses vpopmail/qmail and has about 200 Mails per
 day :)

 Thanks very much,
 knom.

I just tested qscanq about 1 hour ago and it's working great.
Written in C. 

http://budney.homeunix.net:8080/users/budney/software/qscanq/index.html

You can configure it the use clamdscan. Works great.

Ken Jones



RE: [vchkpw] Spamassassin + Clamav Antivirus + vpopmail

2004-01-26 Thread Tom Walsh
 I know qmail-scanner.pl, but is this a fast method ? 
 Meanwhile.. My Spamassassin needs aproximately 10 seconds for 
 scanning one message. Is this the normal duration ?

I use a known spam message as a test bed for tuning performance of our
SpamAssassin installation.

You can run:

cat /path/to/known/spam/message | spamassassin -D

Review the output of this command to determine which processes are
taking so long.

More than likely you are making DNS calls to RBLs that aren't responding
in a timely fashion or are using another service (pyzor, which we have
had disabled since December) that is slow to return a response.

With proper tuning your SpamAssassin can be made to scan messages in
under .6 seconds with a full battary of external tests. (This is even on
a 1GHz 512MB AMD Athlon machine.)

If anybody is interested in some of the performance tweaks we have made
to SA, please let me know.

Tom Walsh
Network Administrator
http://www.ala.net/





Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin + Clamav Antivirus + vpopmail

2004-01-26 Thread X-Istence
Tom Walsh wrote:

I know qmail-scanner.pl, but is this a fast method ? 
Meanwhile.. My Spamassassin needs aproximately 10 seconds for 
scanning one message. Is this the normal duration ?
   

I use a known spam message as a test bed for tuning performance of our
SpamAssassin installation.
You can run:

cat /path/to/known/spam/message | spamassassin -D

Review the output of this command to determine which processes are
taking so long.
More than likely you are making DNS calls to RBLs that aren't responding
in a timely fashion or are using another service (pyzor, which we have
had disabled since December) that is slow to return a response.
With proper tuning your SpamAssassin can be made to scan messages in
under .6 seconds with a full battary of external tests. (This is even on
a 1GHz 512MB AMD Athlon machine.)
If anybody is interested in some of the performance tweaks we have made
to SA, please let me know.
Tom Walsh
Network Administrator
http://www.ala.net/
 

I would be interested in that. I have been looking at ways to speed up 
SA's working speed.

X-Istence


Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin + Clamav Antivirus + vpopmail

2004-01-26 Thread Alex Martin
Hello,

qmail-scanner-queue.pl runs spamassassin, razor2, pyzor, clamav, and its 
own internal scanner, as well as doing rbl lookups, in under 1 second 
per message, usually about .8 seconds for me.

The 10 second delay as someone pointed out is the default timeout for 
rbl lookups.

I had this problem and I recently groomed my rblsmtpd list. I was using 
servers that were down.

The following list may use some services that are a little agressive, 
though I now have no (known) issues with valid mails being bounced, but 
in combination with spamassassin, as well as an address known to many 
spammers (used to get 80+ per day), a few spams make it into my inbox 
per week.

More info about these hosts can be found through their websites.

Also, by following /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current, you can follow 
rblsmtpd's actions, for debugging, etc.

FYI: (live, fast responding rbl hosts as of  1/26/03)

snip
/usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd \
-r sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org \
-r blackholes.mail-abuse.org \
-r list.dsbl.org \
-r bl.spamcop.net  \
-r relays.ordb.org \
-r dnsbl.ahbl.org \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \
snip
Regards,

Alex Martin
http://www.rettc.com


knom wrote:

Hi people !

I want to install Spamassassin and Clam Antivirus with vpopmail !
Do you suggest any high speed scanning tool ?
I know qmail-scanner.pl, but is this a fast method ? Meanwhile.. My
Spamassassin needs aproximately 10 seconds for scanning one message.
Is this the normal duration ?
My homegrown Mailserver uses vpopmail/qmail and has about 200 Mails per
day :)
Thanks very much,
knom.