Re: First VCL setup, docs don't match my UI

2011-10-27 Thread Josh Thompson
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Michael,

Welcome to the VCL community!

The docs you mentioned are for the very beginning of your install.  Once you 
add at least one computer, things change a little bit.  The reason for that is 
because you don't have any computers to do anything with initially, so it just 
jumps straight to adding them.  Once you've added a computer, you need to 
select the "Edit Computer Information" radio button, click submit, and then 
click the Add button to add any further computers.  If you are adding any VM 
computers, you *must* select the Add multiple checkbox.  Otherwise, you won't 
be able to enter the extra required information for VMs.  That will change in 
the next release.

The scheduler actually uses specs of the computers in determining which 
computer to assign a reservation to.  That is why those specs are required.  I 
believe Andy is working on some code that will automatically update that 
information periodically based on what vcld finds on the nodes as it does its 
work.

Just let us know if you have any further questions.  Also, we have an IRC 
channel on freenode.net - #asfvcl - if you'd like to ask questions more 
interactively.

Josh

On Wednesday October 26, 2011, Michael Jinks wrote:
> Aha.
> 
> I still have lots of confusion about what some of those fields are used
> for (CPU MHz is a required field?  really?) but it looks like I'm past
> this stage of the ritual.  Thanks.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:28:08PM -0700, James O'Dell wrote:
> > 
> > I don't know if this is the best place to find the version. But it
> > seems to work.
> > 
> > grep 'ASF VCL' /var/www/html/vcl/index.php
> > 
> > 
> > The page you're describing is the page before the add screen.
> > 
> > Go ahead and select the radio button for 'Edit Computer Information',
> > and go to the next page. (I didn't see the radio button myself
> > when started using VCL)
> > 
> > On the next page you'll find 'vmhostinuse' under the 'State' pull down.
> > 
> > __Jim
> > 
> > On 10/26/2011 3:16 PM, Michael Jinks wrote:
> > > Hm.  I think I'm runing 2.2.1; I installed recently, but I can't find
> > > any way to confirm the version number in the UI or in the filesystem.
> > > (Is VCL packaged anywhere?  That would sure help maintainability...)
> > > 
> > > Anyhow, when I click "Manage Computers", the fields I see under "Edit
> > > 
> > > Computer Information" are (not necessarily in order):
> > >  Hostname
> > >  IP Address
> > >  State
> > >  Current Image
> > >  Owner
> > >  Platform
> > >  Schedule
> > >  Notes
> > >  Provisioning Engine
> > >  Next Image
> > >  RAM
> > >  No. Processors
> > >  Processor Speed
> > >  Network Speed
> > >  Computer ID
> > >  Type
> > >  No. Reservations
> > > 
> > > ...there's no "vmhostinuse".
> > > 
> > > I tried selecting just "IP" and "Hostname", but that brought me to a
> > > screen for editing information about my ESXi host; I'm looking to
> > > define a new VM, and there doesn't seem to be anything on that page
> > > that applies.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 02:48:12PM -0700, James O'Dell wrote:
> > > I'm running 2.2.1, it's the stable release.
> > > 
> > > The page doesn't describe what I see either.
> > > 
> > > Follow this path, and you should be back on track.
> > > 
> > > Manage Computers
> > > 
> > >   Edit Computer Information
> > >   
> > >   put in IP, hostname, and 'vmhostinuse' - hit add
> > >   (Do not select 'add multiple?')
> > >   
> > >   you'll get to another page asking for more info,
> > >   
> > >   fill it in, submit that page
> > >   
> > >   the next page will prompt you for which 'VM host profile' to use
> > >   (aka Virtual Hosts -> VM Host Profiles )
> > >   
> > >   submit, and you should be done
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > 
> > > __Jim
> > > 
> > > On 10/26/2011 2:11 PM, Michael Jinks wrote:
> >  I'm trying to set up my first proof-of-concept VCL instance.  I have
> >  VCL installed and working on one machine, and I've added a VMware
> >  ESXi host
> >  
> >  according to the docs at:
> >   https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/vcl-221-further-steps-if-using-vmware.
> >   html
> >  
> >  (Planning to use SSH since I don't have a VC instance to work
> >  against yet.)
> >  
> >  ...but when I get to the section marked "Adding Virtual Machines",
> >  it
> >  
> >  doesn't seem to describe what I'm seeing.  From that page:
> >   1. Click Manage Computers
> >   2. Select the Add Multiple Computers radio button
> >   3. Click Submit
> >   4. Fill in the following:
> >   [...]
> >  
> >  When I click "Manage Computers", I get a page with a list box
> >  containing the choices, "All VM Computers", "allComputers",
> >  "newimages", and "newvmimages".  Below that, there are three radio
> >  buttons: "Edit Computer Grouping", "Computer Utilities", and "Edit
> >  Computer Information:", with a list s

Re: First VCL setup, docs don't match my UI

2011-10-26 Thread Michael Jinks
Aha.

I still have lots of confusion about what some of those fields are used
for (CPU MHz is a required field?  really?) but it looks like I'm past
this stage of the ritual.  Thanks.


On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:28:08PM -0700, James O'Dell wrote:
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> I don't know if this is the best place to find the version. But it
> seems to work.
> 
> grep 'ASF VCL' /var/www/html/vcl/index.php
> 
> 
> The page you're describing is the page before the add screen.
> 
> Go ahead and select the radio button for 'Edit Computer Information',
> and go to the next page. (I didn't see the radio button myself
> when started using VCL)
> 
> On the next page you'll find 'vmhostinuse' under the 'State' pull down.
> 
> __Jim
> 
> On 10/26/2011 3:16 PM, Michael Jinks wrote:
> > Hm.  I think I'm runing 2.2.1; I installed recently, but I can't find
> > any way to confirm the version number in the UI or in the filesystem.
> > (Is VCL packaged anywhere?  That would sure help maintainability...)
> > 
> > Anyhow, when I click "Manage Computers", the fields I see under "Edit
> > Computer Information" are (not necessarily in order):
> > 
> >  Hostname
> >  IP Address
> >  State
> >  Current Image
> >  Owner
> >  Platform
> >  Schedule
> >  Notes
> >  Provisioning Engine
> >  Next Image
> >  RAM
> >  No. Processors
> >  Processor Speed
> >  Network Speed
> >  Computer ID
> >  Type
> >  No. Reservations
> > 
> > ...there's no "vmhostinuse".
> > 
> > I tried selecting just "IP" and "Hostname", but that brought me to a
> > screen for editing information about my ESXi host; I'm looking to define
> > a new VM, and there doesn't seem to be anything on that page that
> > applies.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 02:48:12PM -0700, James O'Dell wrote:
> > I'm running 2.2.1, it's the stable release.
> > 
> > The page doesn't describe what I see either.
> > 
> > Follow this path, and you should be back on track.
> > 
> > Manage Computers
> > Edit Computer Information
> > 
> > put in IP, hostname, and 'vmhostinuse' - hit add
> > (Do not select 'add multiple?')
> > 
> > you'll get to another page asking for more info,
> > 
> > fill it in, submit that page
> > 
> > the next page will prompt you for which 'VM host profile' to use
> > (aka Virtual Hosts -> VM Host Profiles )
> > 
> > submit, and you should be done
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > __Jim
> > 
> > On 10/26/2011 2:11 PM, Michael Jinks wrote:
>  I'm trying to set up my first proof-of-concept VCL instance.  I have VCL
>  installed and working on one machine, and I've added a VMware ESXi host
>  according to the docs at:
> 
>   https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/vcl-221-further-steps-if-using-vmware.html
> 
>  (Planning to use SSH since I don't have a VC instance to work against
>  yet.)
> 
>  ...but when I get to the section marked "Adding Virtual Machines", it
>  doesn't seem to describe what I'm seeing.  From that page:
> 
>   1. Click Manage Computers
>   2. Select the Add Multiple Computers radio button
>   3. Click Submit
>   4. Fill in the following: 
>   [...]
> 
>  When I click "Manage Computers", I get a page with a list box containing
>  the choices, "All VM Computers", "allComputers", "newimages", and
>  "newvmimages".  Below that, there are three radio buttons: "Edit
>  Computer Grouping", "Computer Utilities", and "Edit Computer
>  Information:", with a list selectable fields for editing.  There's no
>  "Add Multiple Computers" option.
> 
>  Am I reading the wrong docs?  Did I install the wrong release of VCL?
>  Or did I skip a step somewhere?
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> - -- 
> Jim O'Dell
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> California State University Fullerton
> Email: jod...@fullerton.edu
> Phone: (657) 278-2256
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Sorry this took so long.


Re: First VCL setup, docs don't match my UI

2011-10-26 Thread James O'Dell
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I don't know if this is the best place to find the version. But it
seems to work.

grep 'ASF VCL' /var/www/html/vcl/index.php


The page you're describing is the page before the add screen.

Go ahead and select the radio button for 'Edit Computer Information',
and go to the next page. (I didn't see the radio button myself
when started using VCL)

On the next page you'll find 'vmhostinuse' under the 'State' pull down.

__Jim

On 10/26/2011 3:16 PM, Michael Jinks wrote:
> Hm.  I think I'm runing 2.2.1; I installed recently, but I can't find
> any way to confirm the version number in the UI or in the filesystem.
> (Is VCL packaged anywhere?  That would sure help maintainability...)
> 
> Anyhow, when I click "Manage Computers", the fields I see under "Edit
> Computer Information" are (not necessarily in order):
> 
>  Hostname
>  IP Address
>  State
>  Current Image
>  Owner
>  Platform
>  Schedule
>  Notes
>  Provisioning Engine
>  Next Image
>  RAM
>  No. Processors
>  Processor Speed
>  Network Speed
>  Computer ID
>  Type
>  No. Reservations
> 
> ...there's no "vmhostinuse".
> 
> I tried selecting just "IP" and "Hostname", but that brought me to a
> screen for editing information about my ESXi host; I'm looking to define
> a new VM, and there doesn't seem to be anything on that page that
> applies.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 02:48:12PM -0700, James O'Dell wrote:
> I'm running 2.2.1, it's the stable release.
> 
> The page doesn't describe what I see either.
> 
> Follow this path, and you should be back on track.
> 
> Manage Computers
>   Edit Computer Information
>   
>   put in IP, hostname, and 'vmhostinuse' - hit add
>   (Do not select 'add multiple?')
> 
>   you'll get to another page asking for more info,
> 
>   fill it in, submit that page
> 
>   the next page will prompt you for which 'VM host profile' to use
>   (aka Virtual Hosts -> VM Host Profiles )
> 
>   submit, and you should be done
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> __Jim
> 
> On 10/26/2011 2:11 PM, Michael Jinks wrote:
 I'm trying to set up my first proof-of-concept VCL instance.  I have VCL
 installed and working on one machine, and I've added a VMware ESXi host
 according to the docs at:

  https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/vcl-221-further-steps-if-using-vmware.html

 (Planning to use SSH since I don't have a VC instance to work against
 yet.)

 ...but when I get to the section marked "Adding Virtual Machines", it
 doesn't seem to describe what I'm seeing.  From that page:

  1. Click Manage Computers
  2. Select the Add Multiple Computers radio button
  3. Click Submit
  4. Fill in the following: 
  [...]

 When I click "Manage Computers", I get a page with a list box containing
 the choices, "All VM Computers", "allComputers", "newimages", and
 "newvmimages".  Below that, there are three radio buttons: "Edit
 Computer Grouping", "Computer Utilities", and "Edit Computer
 Information:", with a list selectable fields for editing.  There's no
 "Add Multiple Computers" option.

 Am I reading the wrong docs?  Did I install the wrong release of VCL?
 Or did I skip a step somewhere?

> 
> 
> 
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California State University Fullerton
Email: jod...@fullerton.edu
Phone: (657) 278-2256
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Re: First VCL setup, docs don't match my UI

2011-10-26 Thread Michael Jinks
Hm.  I think I'm runing 2.2.1; I installed recently, but I can't find
any way to confirm the version number in the UI or in the filesystem.
(Is VCL packaged anywhere?  That would sure help maintainability...)

Anyhow, when I click "Manage Computers", the fields I see under "Edit
Computer Information" are (not necessarily in order):

 Hostname
 IP Address
 State
 Current Image
 Owner
 Platform
 Schedule
 Notes
 Provisioning Engine
 Next Image
 RAM
 No. Processors
 Processor Speed
 Network Speed
 Computer ID
 Type
 No. Reservations

...there's no "vmhostinuse".

I tried selecting just "IP" and "Hostname", but that brought me to a
screen for editing information about my ESXi host; I'm looking to define
a new VM, and there doesn't seem to be anything on that page that
applies.




On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 02:48:12PM -0700, James O'Dell wrote:
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> 
> I'm running 2.2.1, it's the stable release.
> 
> The page doesn't describe what I see either.
> 
> Follow this path, and you should be back on track.
> 
> Manage Computers
>   Edit Computer Information
>   
>   put in IP, hostname, and 'vmhostinuse' - hit add
>   (Do not select 'add multiple?')
> 
>   you'll get to another page asking for more info,
> 
>   fill it in, submit that page
> 
>   the next page will prompt you for which 'VM host profile' to use
>   (aka Virtual Hosts -> VM Host Profiles )
> 
>   submit, and you should be done
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> __Jim
> 
> On 10/26/2011 2:11 PM, Michael Jinks wrote:
> > I'm trying to set up my first proof-of-concept VCL instance.  I have VCL
> > installed and working on one machine, and I've added a VMware ESXi host
> > according to the docs at:
> > 
> >  https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/vcl-221-further-steps-if-using-vmware.html
> > 
> > (Planning to use SSH since I don't have a VC instance to work against
> > yet.)
> > 
> > ...but when I get to the section marked "Adding Virtual Machines", it
> > doesn't seem to describe what I'm seeing.  From that page:
> > 
> >  1. Click Manage Computers
> >  2. Select the Add Multiple Computers radio button
> >  3. Click Submit
> >  4. Fill in the following: 
> >  [...]
> > 
> > When I click "Manage Computers", I get a page with a list box containing
> > the choices, "All VM Computers", "allComputers", "newimages", and
> > "newvmimages".  Below that, there are three radio buttons: "Edit
> > Computer Grouping", "Computer Utilities", and "Edit Computer
> > Information:", with a list selectable fields for editing.  There's no
> > "Add Multiple Computers" option.
> > 
> > Am I reading the wrong docs?  Did I install the wrong release of VCL?
> > Or did I skip a step somewhere?
> > 
> 
> 
> - -- 
> Jim O'Dell
> Network Analyst
> California State University Fullerton
> Email: jod...@fullerton.edu
> Phone: (657) 278-2256
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Re: First VCL setup, docs don't match my UI

2011-10-26 Thread James O'Dell
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I'm running 2.2.1, it's the stable release.

The page doesn't describe what I see either.

Follow this path, and you should be back on track.

Manage Computers
Edit Computer Information

put in IP, hostname, and 'vmhostinuse' - hit add
(Do not select 'add multiple?')

you'll get to another page asking for more info,

fill it in, submit that page

the next page will prompt you for which 'VM host profile' to use
(aka Virtual Hosts -> VM Host Profiles )

submit, and you should be done

Hope this helps,

__Jim

On 10/26/2011 2:11 PM, Michael Jinks wrote:
> I'm trying to set up my first proof-of-concept VCL instance.  I have VCL
> installed and working on one machine, and I've added a VMware ESXi host
> according to the docs at:
> 
>  https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/vcl-221-further-steps-if-using-vmware.html
> 
> (Planning to use SSH since I don't have a VC instance to work against
> yet.)
> 
> ...but when I get to the section marked "Adding Virtual Machines", it
> doesn't seem to describe what I'm seeing.  From that page:
> 
>  1. Click Manage Computers
>  2. Select the Add Multiple Computers radio button
>  3. Click Submit
>  4. Fill in the following: 
>  [...]
> 
> When I click "Manage Computers", I get a page with a list box containing
> the choices, "All VM Computers", "allComputers", "newimages", and
> "newvmimages".  Below that, there are three radio buttons: "Edit
> Computer Grouping", "Computer Utilities", and "Edit Computer
> Information:", with a list selectable fields for editing.  There's no
> "Add Multiple Computers" option.
> 
> Am I reading the wrong docs?  Did I install the wrong release of VCL?
> Or did I skip a step somewhere?
> 


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California State University Fullerton
Email: jod...@fullerton.edu
Phone: (657) 278-2256
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