Re: [vdr] road-map

2012-12-28 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Peter Münster wrote: > Hi, > > Is there some kind of road-map for VDR? Things like: > - What is expected to happen before next stable release? > - Approximate time-line. > - What features are to be integrated? Yes but it's kept in a vault under 24hr armed guard.

[vdr] road-map

2012-12-28 Thread Peter Münster
Hi, Is there some kind of road-map for VDR? Things like: - What is expected to happen before next stable release? - Approximate time-line. - What features are to be integrated? -- Peter ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linu

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:19 AM, fnu wrote: >> Let's not waste more mailing list space with this nonsense. > > I got it already, you're way of installation and usage of VDR is the only > valid, all others are stupid. Your statements here are the one and only > truth, even so only you are allowed

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread fnu
> Let's not waste more mailing list space with this nonsense. I got it already, you're way of installation and usage of VDR is the only valid, all others are stupid. Your statements here are the one and only truth, even so only you are allowed to make conclusions. Yes man, you're the very last kni

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Lars Hanisch
Am 28.12.2012 16:38, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: > So should we go back to the Makefiles of version 1.7.33 and declare this > area of the program source "untouchable" forever? > Maybe this would be the easiest solution, and I wouldn't get bashed, offended > and insulted that much any more. > Never i

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Gerald Dachs
Am 28.12.2012 16:38, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: So should we go back to the Makefiles of version 1.7.33 and declare this area of the program source "untouchable" forever? +1 Gerald !DSPAM:50ddc50a174441059718148! ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.or

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 28.12.2012 16:38, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 28.12.2012 14:42, Udo Richter wrote: Am 28.12.2012 09:29, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: On 28.12.2012 00:47, Dominic Evans wrote: IF YOU BREAK USERSPACE I HATE YOU AND YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON Not breaking userspace is, of course, the right th

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 28.12.2012 14:42, Udo Richter wrote: Am 28.12.2012 09:29, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: On 28.12.2012 00:47, Dominic Evans wrote: IF YOU BREAK USERSPACE I HATE YOU AND YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON Not breaking userspace is, of course, the right thing to do in a *stable* version of any software

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Marx
I don't think arguing which userspace is bigger is so important. I'm rather silent user and use VDR a few years now. First I compiled it from scratch because there were no other option. Then I tried to use packages but failed. Packages were outdated, only a few plugins in repository. No good decr

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Udo Richter
Am 28.12.2012 14:37, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: On 28.12.2012 14:19, Udo Richter wrote: Plus, any updated plugin (at least any built-in plugin) does no longer create the *.so.$APIVERSION file, and there's no generic way to do this. Well, then maybe this works (haven't tested it): for i in

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Udo Richter
Am 28.12.2012 09:29, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: On 28.12.2012 00:47, Dominic Evans wrote: IF YOU BREAK USERSPACE I HATE YOU AND YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON Not breaking userspace is, of course, the right thing to do in a *stable* version of any software. In Linux context, it actually means k

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 28.12.2012 14:19, Udo Richter wrote: Am 28.12.2012 09:28, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: Well, if a plugin is no longer actively maintained, it's probably time to drop it. You know what they say about dead horses ;-). Being actively developed and being needed are two different things. I wouldn'

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Udo Richter
Am 28.12.2012 09:28, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: Well, if a plugin is no longer actively maintained, it's probably time to drop it. You know what they say about dead horses ;-). Being actively developed and being needed are two different things. I wouldn't want to drop all the plugins that aren

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Dominic Evans
On 28 December 2012 10:07, Gero wrote: > I guess, most of confusion and frictions comes from the fact, that you use c++ > as programming language, but you don't code c++ and you don't think as a c++- > developer. > > Same - you developed a linux app, but you don't care about linux standards. > > *

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Dominic Evans
On 28 December 2012 09:29, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > IF YOU BREAK USERSPACE I HATE YOU AND YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON > > So did *you* (Dominic) just make that up? I'm asking because your > posting looks just like a direct quotation from Linus, and I have > a hard time imagining a renowned perso

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Gero
On Friday 28 December 2012 - 09:29:01, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Well, Linus apparently has very strong feelings about this. > However, nowhere in that posting does it say > >IF YOU BREAK USERSPACE I HATE YOU AND YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON > I guess, most of confusion and frictions comes fro

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 28.12.2012 00:47, Dominic Evans wrote: On 27 Dec 2012, at 23:41, fnu mailto:v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de>> wrote: Linux wouldn't have been that succesfull, if Linus Torvalds would not had an ear to the needs of others, even business needs ... A Christmas message from Linus – “IF YOU BREAK

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-28 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 28.12.2012 00:43, Helmut Auer wrote: If I don't accept patches, I'm blamed for slowing down development. If I do accept a patch that causes a little work to adapt to (but looks promising in the long run), I'm being offended by being compared to Louis XIV. I guess you just can't win 'em all...