Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread Antti Hartikainen
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 09:07:49PM +0200, jaregu...@telefonica.net wrote:
> No, the two cables go to a diseqc, and after the cable from the diseqc go to 
> a amplifier with two outputs and each output go to a tuner. But the stb don't 
> have diseqc capabilities. I am trying to configure the diseqc in the vdr 
> part. It is posible?
> 

Uh.. So you are doing something completely wrong here.

If you are receiving only one single satellite position (19.2E), why would you 
need to connect twin LNB to a diseqc switch anyway?

You have to connect each receiver (STB and VDR) to each output of LNB directly 
and separately, or via amplifier if you really require that. No need for diseqc 
switch there 
at all.

Or you will need two diseqc switches, not possible to share one between two 
different tuners.

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Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread jaregu...@telefonica.net

> Mensaje original 
>De : klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de
>Fecha : 24/06/2014 - 18:23 (H)
>Para : vdr@linuxtv.org
>Asunto : Re: [vdr] Diseqc question
>
>On 24.06.2014 18:17, Antti Hartikainen wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 06:02:31PM +0200, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
>>> El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 17:22:08 Jose Alberto Reguero escribió:
>>>> El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 16:47:57 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
>>>>> On 24.06.2014 16:32, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
>>>>>> El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 15:38:14 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
>>>>>>> On 24.06.2014 13:45, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
>>>>>>>> El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 13:25:15 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
>>>>>>>>> On 24.06.2014 12:58, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have a double LNB. I have a stb without diseqc capabilities and I
>>>>>>>>>> want to use it with the default diseqc port A, and I want to use
>>>>>>>>>> vdr with the diseqc port B. It is that possible?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does this LNB point to two neighboring sat positions and have one
>>>>>>>>> cable connector, or does it point to only one sat position and
>>>>>>>>> have two cable connectors?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Klaus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is only one sat position and two cable connectors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then the next question is whether these two connectors are for the
>>>>>>> (separate) horizontal and vertical band, or whether they both provide
>>>>>>> all bands. In the latter case it should just work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Klaus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both provide all bands. They point to ASTRA 19.2E.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use this diseq.conf entries:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> S28.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 A W15 t
>>>>>> S28.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 A W15 T
>>>>>> S28.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 A W15 t
>>>>>> S28.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 A W15 T
>>>>>>
>>>>>> S19.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 B W15 t
>>>>>> S19.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 B W15 T
>>>>>> S19.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 B W15 t
>>>>>> S19.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 B W15 T
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (28.2E is just a fake entry)
>>>>>> But when I tune a channel with vdr, the stb lost the signal.
>>>>>
>>>>> If both connectors provide all bands, you shouldn't need the 'A/B'
>>>>> commands.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have a link to the specs of that LNB?
>>>>>
>>>>> Klaus
>>>>
>>>> It is a Opticum. I buy it in amazon.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dipolnet.com/twin_lnb_opticum-orton_ltp-04h_premium_0_1db_A9842.h
>>>> tm
>>>>
>>>> Jose Alberto
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I did another test, and if both channels are vertical there are not 
>>> problems.
>>> But if the stb is in a vertical channel, and vdr is in a horizontal channel,
>>> the stb loose the signal.
>>>
>>
>> Sound like broken LNB to me, if both tuners have their own cable coming from 
>> the outputs of LNB.
>
>I'd say so, too.
> From the specs your configuration should work just fine.
>
>Klaus
>

No, the two cables go to a diseqc, and after the cable from the diseqc go to a 
amplifier with two outputs and each output go to a tuner. But the stb don't 
have diseqc capabilities. I am trying to configure the diseqc in the vdr part. 
It is posible?

Jose Alberto

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Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 24.06.2014 18:17, Antti Hartikainen wrote:

On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 06:02:31PM +0200, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 17:22:08 Jose Alberto Reguero escribió:

El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 16:47:57 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:

On 24.06.2014 16:32, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 15:38:14 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:

On 24.06.2014 13:45, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 13:25:15 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:

On 24.06.2014 12:58, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

I have a double LNB. I have a stb without diseqc capabilities and I
want to use it with the default diseqc port A, and I want to use
vdr with the diseqc port B. It is that possible?


Does this LNB point to two neighboring sat positions and have one
cable connector, or does it point to only one sat position and
have two cable connectors?

Klaus


It is only one sat position and two cable connectors.


Then the next question is whether these two connectors are for the
(separate) horizontal and vertical band, or whether they both provide
all bands. In the latter case it should just work.

Klaus


Both provide all bands. They point to ASTRA 19.2E.

I use this diseq.conf entries:

S28.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 A W15 t
S28.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 A W15 T
S28.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 A W15 t
S28.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 A W15 T

S19.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 B W15 t
S19.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 B W15 T
S19.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 B W15 t
S19.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 B W15 T

(28.2E is just a fake entry)
But when I tune a channel with vdr, the stb lost the signal.


If both connectors provide all bands, you shouldn't need the 'A/B'
commands.

Do you have a link to the specs of that LNB?

Klaus


It is a Opticum. I buy it in amazon.

http://www.dipolnet.com/twin_lnb_opticum-orton_ltp-04h_premium_0_1db_A9842.h
tm

Jose Alberto




I did another test, and if both channels are vertical there are not problems.
But if the stb is in a vertical channel, and vdr is in a horizontal channel,
the stb loose the signal.



Sound like broken LNB to me, if both tuners have their own cable coming from 
the outputs of LNB.


I'd say so, too.
From the specs your configuration should work just fine.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread Antti Hartikainen
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 06:02:31PM +0200, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 17:22:08 Jose Alberto Reguero escribió:
> > El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 16:47:57 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> > > On 24.06.2014 16:32, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> > > > El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 15:38:14 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> > > >> On 24.06.2014 13:45, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> > > >>> El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 13:25:15 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> > >  On 24.06.2014 12:58, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> > > > I have a double LNB. I have a stb without diseqc capabilities and I
> > > > want to use it with the default diseqc port A, and I want to use
> > > > vdr with the diseqc port B. It is that possible?
> > >  
> > >  Does this LNB point to two neighboring sat positions and have one
> > >  cable connector, or does it point to only one sat position and
> > >  have two cable connectors?
> > >  
> > >  Klaus
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> It is only one sat position and two cable connectors.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Then the next question is whether these two connectors are for the
> > > >> (separate) horizontal and vertical band, or whether they both provide
> > > >> all bands. In the latter case it should just work.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Klaus
> > > > 
> > > > Both provide all bands. They point to ASTRA 19.2E.
> > > > 
> > > > I use this diseq.conf entries:
> > > > 
> > > > S28.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 A W15 t
> > > > S28.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 A W15 T
> > > > S28.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 A W15 t
> > > > S28.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 A W15 T
> > > > 
> > > > S19.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 B W15 t
> > > > S19.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 B W15 T
> > > > S19.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 B W15 t
> > > > S19.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 B W15 T
> > > > 
> > > > (28.2E is just a fake entry)
> > > > But when I tune a channel with vdr, the stb lost the signal.
> > > 
> > > If both connectors provide all bands, you shouldn't need the 'A/B'
> > > commands.
> > > 
> > > Do you have a link to the specs of that LNB?
> > > 
> > > Klaus
> > 
> > It is a Opticum. I buy it in amazon.
> > 
> > http://www.dipolnet.com/twin_lnb_opticum-orton_ltp-04h_premium_0_1db_A9842.h
> > tm
> > 
> > Jose Alberto
> > 
> > 
>  
> I did another test, and if both channels are vertical there are not problems. 
> But if the stb is in a vertical channel, and vdr is in a horizontal channel, 
> the stb loose the signal.
> 

Sound like broken LNB to me, if both tuners have their own cable coming from 
the outputs of LNB.

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Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread Jose Alberto Reguero
El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 17:22:08 Jose Alberto Reguero escribió:
> El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 16:47:57 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> > On 24.06.2014 16:32, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> > > El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 15:38:14 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> > >> On 24.06.2014 13:45, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> > >>> El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 13:25:15 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> >  On 24.06.2014 12:58, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> > > I have a double LNB. I have a stb without diseqc capabilities and I
> > > want to use it with the default diseqc port A, and I want to use
> > > vdr with the diseqc port B. It is that possible?
> >  
> >  Does this LNB point to two neighboring sat positions and have one
> >  cable connector, or does it point to only one sat position and
> >  have two cable connectors?
> >  
> >  Klaus
> > >>> 
> > >>> It is only one sat position and two cable connectors.
> > >> 
> > >> Then the next question is whether these two connectors are for the
> > >> (separate) horizontal and vertical band, or whether they both provide
> > >> all bands. In the latter case it should just work.
> > >> 
> > >> Klaus
> > > 
> > > Both provide all bands. They point to ASTRA 19.2E.
> > > 
> > > I use this diseq.conf entries:
> > > 
> > > S28.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 A W15 t
> > > S28.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 A W15 T
> > > S28.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 A W15 t
> > > S28.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 A W15 T
> > > 
> > > S19.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 B W15 t
> > > S19.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 B W15 T
> > > S19.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 B W15 t
> > > S19.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 B W15 T
> > > 
> > > (28.2E is just a fake entry)
> > > But when I tune a channel with vdr, the stb lost the signal.
> > 
> > If both connectors provide all bands, you shouldn't need the 'A/B'
> > commands.
> > 
> > Do you have a link to the specs of that LNB?
> > 
> > Klaus
> 
> It is a Opticum. I buy it in amazon.
> 
> http://www.dipolnet.com/twin_lnb_opticum-orton_ltp-04h_premium_0_1db_A9842.h
> tm
> 
> Jose Alberto
> 
> 
 
I did another test, and if both channels are vertical there are not problems. 
But if the stb is in a vertical channel, and vdr is in a horizontal channel, 
the stb loose the signal.

Jose Alberto


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Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread Jose Alberto Reguero
El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 16:47:57 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> On 24.06.2014 16:32, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> > El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 15:38:14 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> >> On 24.06.2014 13:45, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> >>> El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 13:25:15 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
>  On 24.06.2014 12:58, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> > I have a double LNB. I have a stb without diseqc capabilities and I 
> > want to use it with the default diseqc port A, and I want to use vdr 
> > with the diseqc port B.
> > It is that possible?
> 
>  Does this LNB point to two neighboring sat positions and have one
>  cable connector, or does it point to only one sat position and
>  have two cable connectors?
> 
>  Klaus
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>> It is only one sat position and two cable connectors.
> >>
> >> Then the next question is whether these two connectors are for the 
> >> (separate)
> >> horizontal and vertical band, or whether they both provide all bands. In 
> >> the
> >> latter case it should just work.
> >>
> >> Klaus
> >>
> > Both provide all bands. They point to ASTRA 19.2E.
> >
> > I use this diseq.conf entries:
> >
> > S28.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 A W15 t
> > S28.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 A W15 T
> > S28.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 A W15 t
> > S28.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 A W15 T
> >
> > S19.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 B W15 t
> > S19.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 B W15 T
> > S19.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 B W15 t
> > S19.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 B W15 T
> >
> > (28.2E is just a fake entry)
> > But when I tune a channel with vdr, the stb lost the signal.
> 
> If both connectors provide all bands, you shouldn't need the 'A/B'
> commands.
> 
> Do you have a link to the specs of that LNB?
> 
> Klaus
> 

It is a Opticum. I buy it in amazon.

http://www.dipolnet.com/twin_lnb_opticum-orton_ltp-04h_premium_0_1db_A9842.htm

Jose Alberto




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Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 24.06.2014 16:32, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 15:38:14 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:

On 24.06.2014 13:45, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 13:25:15 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:

On 24.06.2014 12:58, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

I have a double LNB. I have a stb without diseqc capabilities and I want to use 
it with the default diseqc port A, and I want to use vdr with the diseqc port B.
It is that possible?


Does this LNB point to two neighboring sat positions and have one
cable connector, or does it point to only one sat position and
have two cable connectors?

Klaus




It is only one sat position and two cable connectors.


Then the next question is whether these two connectors are for the (separate)
horizontal and vertical band, or whether they both provide all bands. In the
latter case it should just work.

Klaus


Both provide all bands. They point to ASTRA 19.2E.

I use this diseq.conf entries:

S28.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 A W15 t
S28.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 A W15 T
S28.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 A W15 t
S28.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 A W15 T

S19.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 B W15 t
S19.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 B W15 T
S19.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 B W15 t
S19.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 B W15 T

(28.2E is just a fake entry)
But when I tune a channel with vdr, the stb lost the signal.


If both connectors provide all bands, you shouldn't need the 'A/B'
commands.

Do you have a link to the specs of that LNB?

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread Jose Alberto Reguero
El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 15:38:14 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> On 24.06.2014 13:45, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> > El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 13:25:15 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> >> On 24.06.2014 12:58, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> >>> I have a double LNB. I have a stb without diseqc capabilities and I want 
> >>> to use it with the default diseqc port A, and I want to use vdr with the 
> >>> diseqc port B.
> >>> It is that possible?
> >>
> >> Does this LNB point to two neighboring sat positions and have one
> >> cable connector, or does it point to only one sat position and
> >> have two cable connectors?
> >>
> >> Klaus
> >>
> >>
> >
> > It is only one sat position and two cable connectors.
> 
> Then the next question is whether these two connectors are for the (separate)
> horizontal and vertical band, or whether they both provide all bands. In the
> latter case it should just work.
> 
> Klaus
> 
Both provide all bands. They point to ASTRA 19.2E.

I use this diseq.conf entries:

S28.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 A W15 t
S28.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 A W15 T
S28.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 A W15 t
S28.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 A W15 T

S19.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 B W15 t
S19.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 B W15 T
S19.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 B W15 t
S19.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 B W15 T

(28.2E is just a fake entry)
But when I tune a channel with vdr, the stb lost the signal.

Jose Alberto

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Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 24.06.2014 13:45, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 13:25:15 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:

On 24.06.2014 12:58, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

I have a double LNB. I have a stb without diseqc capabilities and I want to use 
it with the default diseqc port A, and I want to use vdr with the diseqc port B.
It is that possible?


Does this LNB point to two neighboring sat positions and have one
cable connector, or does it point to only one sat position and
have two cable connectors?

Klaus




It is only one sat position and two cable connectors.


Then the next question is whether these two connectors are for the (separate)
horizontal and vertical band, or whether they both provide all bands. In the
latter case it should just work.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread Jose Alberto Reguero
El Martes, 24 de junio de 2014 13:25:15 Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
> On 24.06.2014 12:58, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:
> > I have a double LNB. I have a stb without diseqc capabilities and I want to 
> > use it with the default diseqc port A, and I want to use vdr with the 
> > diseqc port B.
> > It is that possible?
> 
> Does this LNB point to two neighboring sat positions and have one
> cable connector, or does it point to only one sat position and
> have two cable connectors?
> 
> Klaus
> 
> 

It is only one sat position and two cable connectors.

Jose Alberto


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Re: [vdr] Diseqc question

2014-06-24 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 24.06.2014 12:58, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

I have a double LNB. I have a stb without diseqc capabilities and I want to use 
it with the default diseqc port A, and I want to use vdr with the diseqc port B.
It is that possible?


Does this LNB point to two neighboring sat positions and have one
cable connector, or does it point to only one sat position and
have two cable connectors?

Klaus

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