Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-30 Thread Heinrich Langos
Hi Antti, Just to complete this I've made some tests with the Toshiba USB DVB-T Tuner PX1211E-1TVD. The short result is: Without PID filter its load is equivalent to the Fujitsu-Siemens. (5.8% and 14.4%) With PID filter it produces even less load than the af9015 with pid filter. About 0.5% with

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-27 Thread Heinrich Langos
Hi Antti, On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:48:01PM +0200, Antti Palosaari wrote: Antti Palosaari wrote: Heinrich Langos wrote: Moikka Antti, vp7045 does not have PID-filters. I think difference comes from different USB-transfer settings. vp7045 uses BULK packet size 4096 and af9015 uses BULK

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-27 Thread Antti Palosaari
Heinrich Langos wrote: BTW: I got myself a Toshiba USB DVB-T Tuner PX1211E-1TVD based on the DiB3000M-C/P. Unlike the siemens stick it has a pid filter. I only tested it without the pid filter yet, and it seems to perform as good as the siemens stick in terms of system load. So I guess it

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-27 Thread Heinrich Langos
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:57:14PM +0200, Antti Palosaari wrote: Heinrich Langos wrote: BTW: I got myself a Toshiba USB DVB-T Tuner PX1211E-1TVD based on the DiB3000M-C/P. Unlike the siemens stick it has a pid filter. I only tested it without the pid filter yet, and it seems to perform as

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-25 Thread Antti Palosaari
Antti Palosaari wrote: Heinrich Langos wrote: Moikka Antti, vp7045 does not have PID-filters. I think difference comes from different USB-transfer settings. vp7045 uses BULK packet size 4096 and af9015 uses BULK packet size 512 for USB2.0 and BULK packet size 64 for USB1.1. Therefore

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-24 Thread Antti Palosaari
Heinrich Langos wrote: now, are there any negative side effects to enabling the pid filter that one has to expect? You cannot receive all channels in the mux at the same time (at least in case there is more than 32 PIDs in the transport stream). is it still possible to record two stations

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-24 Thread Antti Palosaari
Heinrich Langos wrote: For completeness and comparability: The Fujitsu Stick (vp7045) still by far beats the af9015 in terms of resource usage with vdr. (13% vs 19% with or 37% without hw pid filter) It doesn't seem to hava a hw pid filter ( at least it doesn't react to the

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-24 Thread Heinrich Langos
Moikka Antti, vp7045 does not have PID-filters. I think difference comes from different USB-transfer settings. vp7045 uses BULK packet size 4096 and af9015 uses BULK packet size 512 for USB2.0 and BULK packet size 64 for USB1.1. Therefore af9015 sends 8 times more packets than vp7045

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-24 Thread Antti Palosaari
Heinrich Langos wrote: Moikka Antti, vp7045 does not have PID-filters. I think difference comes from different USB-transfer settings. vp7045 uses BULK packet size 4096 and af9015 uses BULK packet size 512 for USB2.0 and BULK packet size 64 for USB1.1. Therefore af9015 sends 8 times

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-23 Thread Martin Emrich
Hi! Heinrich Langos schrieb: I am pretty sure the Siemens stick doesn't filter PIDs. The easy way to find out about that is to look at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices and check if the device works with usb 1.1 or absolutely needs 2.0. Hmm, I did't look at this page

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-23 Thread Heinrich Langos
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:18:56AM +0100, Martin Emrich wrote: Heinrich Langos schrieb: I am pretty sure the Siemens stick doesn't filter PIDs. The easy way to find out about that is to look at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices and check if the device works with

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-23 Thread Antti Palosaari
Heinrich Langos wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:18:56AM +0100, Martin Emrich wrote: af9015 USB device is that it seems to support USB 1.1 under Windows with a special driver: http://www.digittrade.de/shop/shop_content.php/coID/9 I think all (in recent 2 year or so) Windows drivers will

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-23 Thread Antti Palosaari
moi! Martin Emrich wrote: Hi! Antti Palosaari schrieb: All AF9015 devices supports PID-filtering by HW. And both Windows and Linux driver supports also. Interesting. How do I enable the HW PID filter? I have an old STB (Cyrix MediaGX 300MHz) that has only USB 1.1. Just plug stick to

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-23 Thread Martin Emrich
Hi! Antti Palosaari schrieb: All AF9015 devices supports PID-filtering by HW. And both Windows and Linux driver supports also. Interesting. How do I enable the HW PID filter? I have an old STB (Cyrix MediaGX 300MHz) that has only USB 1.1. Thanks Martin

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-23 Thread Heinrich Langos
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 01:43:50PM +0200, Antti Palosaari wrote: moi! Martin Emrich wrote: Hi! Antti Palosaari schrieb: All AF9015 devices supports PID-filtering by HW. And both Windows and Linux driver supports also. Interesting. How do I enable the HW PID filter? I have

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-23 Thread Antti Palosaari
Heinrich Langos wrote: How about a module option to force usage of the PID filter? Should be easy to add if the code for enabling it on demand is aready there. It is there. modinfo dvb-usb Antti -- http://palosaari.fi/ ___ vdr mailing list

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-23 Thread Martin Emrich
Antti Palosaari schrieb: Heinrich Langos wrote: How about a module option to force usage of the PID filter? Should be easy to add if the code for enabling it on demand is aready there. It is there. modinfo dvb-usb D'Oh, I only looked at 'modinfo dvb-usb-af9015' :) Thanks! Martin

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-23 Thread Heinrich Langos
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 05:02:54PM +0200, Antti Palosaari wrote: Heinrich Langos wrote: How about a module option to force usage of the PID filter? Should be easy to add if the code for enabling it on demand is aready there. It is there. modinfo dvb-usb Wow! I tried it and using the

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-23 Thread Heinrich Langos
For completeness and comparability: The Fujitsu Stick (vp7045) still by far beats the af9015 in terms of resource usage with vdr. (13% vs 19% with or 37% without hw pid filter) It doesn't seem to hava a hw pid filter ( at least it doesn't react to the force_pid_filter_usage option. so here

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-22 Thread Heinrich Langos
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 02:40:38PM +0200, Antti Palosaari wrote: Heinrich Langos wrote: I ran dvbtraffic (itself causing about 10 wakups but hardly any cpu load) on another console to see what is happening and it seems like femon does only check the receiver's status while zap realy causes

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-22 Thread Martin Emrich
Hi! Heinrich Langos schrieb: I ran a couple of tests with a different DVB-T USB stick. The rather old Fujitsu-Siemens DVB-T Mobile TV. That one turns out to need a lot less system resources. It also transfers the whole transport stream (several video and audio streams) over the USB and

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-22 Thread Heinrich Langos
Here's the powertop output for the siemens stick in various situations: cheers -henrik running zap to tune into a channel and transfer the TS over USB PowerTOP version 1.10 (C) 2007 Intel Corporation

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device, vp7045, and various plugins

2009-03-22 Thread Heinrich Langos
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 06:16:29PM +0100, Martin Emrich wrote: Heinrich Langos schrieb: I ran a couple of tests with a different DVB-T USB stick. The rather old Fujitsu-Siemens DVB-T Mobile TV. That one turns out to need a lot less system resources. It also transfers the whole transport

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device

2009-03-18 Thread Heinrich Langos
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 05:23:53PM +0200, Antti Palosaari wrote: Heinrich Langos wrote: Anyway .. the main problem remains. Is there a tool that would only do some minimal actions on a dvb device? Like power_on? femon for example reads device status. zap, scan... I cleaned up my

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device

2009-03-16 Thread Heinrich Langos
Just to complete the picture, here's the powertop output while recording. Don't start cheering about less wakeups per second (1300 vs 2700). There's less wakups per second as the system doesn't get into idle mode as often, in the first place. -henrik PowerTOP version 1.10 (C) 2007

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device

2009-03-16 Thread Heinrich Langos
Hei Antti, On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 02:19:30PM +0200, Antti Palosaari wrote: Heinrich Langos wrote: That is with dvb_usb_af9015 loaded but with remote=0 module parameter to disable the remote control input that aparently is done by polling. remote=0 does not disable polling, it is for

Re: [vdr] power consumption, powertop and wakups per second with a af9015 device

2009-03-16 Thread Heinrich Langos
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 05:23:53PM +0200, Antti Palosaari wrote: Heinrich Langos wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 03:07:21PM +0100, Heinrich Langos wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 02:19:30PM +0200, Antti Palosaari wrote: remote=0 does not disable polling, it is for selecting correct remote.