Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-27 Thread Goga777

  - does eHD support 1080p ?
 
 Nope. Max is [EMAIL PROTECTED] And for normal viewing, 1080P is still a thing 
 in
 the very long future (for your information, we just got HDTV since March)
 and it would be only be interesting for the HDDVD and BluRay movies.

what's happen if you will try to play 1080p mkv/bluray/hddvd files on your vdr 
with eHD ? 


Goga


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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-24 Thread Georg Acher
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 05:30:46PM +0400, Goga777 wrote:
   may be you know - does Pentium 4 3 GHz will be enough ? 
  
  Even 300MHz are enough. The CPU load is not a load that depends on CPU
  speed. It depends mainly on the current state of the driver which transfers
  the video data from the CPU over PCI without using bursts. Autonomous DMA
  should be possible, but is not yet finished.
 
 do you mean the transfer of compressed (h264 or mpeg2) video data from dvb
 card to eHD ?

Yes, only the TS (or ES) is transfered. Since the Decypher aborts PCI bursts
(I'm not sure if it is just a config setting to circumvent some PCI erratas
in the first chip version or really a HW block to fix them...), you end up
with about 12-15MByte/s transfer rate at most. So a typical 20Mbit/s stream
produces about 16% load almost independent on the CPU speed.

There are DMA blocks in the chip, but the documentation is a bit ...er...
weak

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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-24 Thread Georg Acher
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 05:43:55PM +0400, Goga777 wrote:
 what about post-processing, scaling quality ? is it good ?

Depends on who you ask...

 does only easiest bob deinterlace method support ?

There is simple scaling for 576i-1080i, ie. you see ghost lines, but there
are no other artifacts. There's also Bob for interlace-progressive and (in
the near future) blending for all modes. There is no motion compensation,
although it was inofficially mentioned at the early stages of the chip...

 what about support the different h264 profiles - PAFF + spatial direct
 mode, MBAFF (bottleneck of ffmpeg), CABAC, CAVLC

Is supported, there were never problems on BBC HD or so. For CABAC, the
(official) input rate is about 25Mb/s, for CAVLC 50.

 does eHD support those profiles well ?
 which h264 level does support eHD ?

H.264 Main Profile and High Profile at Level 4.

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[vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-23 Thread Niels Wagenaar
Greetings to All,

Yesterday I've received my Reel eHD so that I can enjoy hardware
accelerated DVB-S/DVB-S2 playback/output on my VDR-1.7.0 installation in
combination with the S2-3200.

Everything works, image is very good and I can enjoy HDTV without
framedrops or stuttering :) The tutorials on vdr-wiki.de were very
helpfull to get it all working. So cheers for the person who wrote it!

But I miss something in my setup. I used Xineliboutput before - for output
in combination with my DVB Budget card - as a player for DVD's and other
multimedia files (Xvid, MKV, MP3, etc). Obviously, this doesn't work
anymore (I tried it, I don't get any output on the eHD)

According to vdr-portal.de, xinemultimedia seems to be the plugin so that
I can enjoy multimedia using eHD as a output device. Besides the problems
with getting xinemultimedia te compile, I wonder if there isn't an other
option to have multimedia aspects in VDR using the eHD as an output
device?

If there isn't, what do I need to compile/patch to get xinemultimedia
working?

I think it's the following what I need:

- xinemultmedia plugin (figures);
- Xine-lib 1.1.8 with xine-reel.diff;
- xine-ehd plugin (so that Xine can use the eHD as a output device);
- Filebrowser (Otherwise selecting files will be a problem, right?);

Is this correct? Because information about the eHD and multimedia aspects
of VDR are a bit hard to find. And I don't know I like to fact to
downgrade Xine-lib to 1.1.8 (I run Xine-lib 1.2.x now since it's part of
Ubuntu 8.04).

Regards,

Niels Wagenaar
Netherlands



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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-23 Thread Torgeir Veimo

On 23 Jul 2008, at 23:43, Niels Wagenaar wrote:

 Greetings to All,

 Yesterday I've received my Reel eHD so that I can enjoy hardware
 accelerated DVB-S/DVB-S2 playback/output on my VDR-1.7.0  
 installation in
 combination with the S2-3200.

 Everything works, image is very good and I can enjoy HDTV without
 framedrops or stuttering :)

Two questions:

- does the card support changing output framerate between 50 and 60Hz  
without restarting VDR?
- how is changing between video / s-video output and HDMI achieved?  
Can they be enabled simultaneously, or change automatically based on  
whether something is connected on the HDMI port?

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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-23 Thread Laz
On Wednesday 23 Jul 2008, Niels Wagenaar wrote:
 Greetings to All,

 Yesterday I've received my Reel eHD so that I can enjoy hardware
 accelerated DVB-S/DVB-S2 playback/output on my VDR-1.7.0 installation
 in combination with the S2-3200.

 Everything works, image is very good and I can enjoy HDTV without
 framedrops or stuttering :) The tutorials on vdr-wiki.de were very
 helpfull to get it all working. So cheers for the person who wrote it!

Looks good.

Can anyone translate the tutorials and upload to 
http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/ for the non-German speakers among us?

:-)

Cheers,

Laz

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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-23 Thread Niels Wagenaar
Op Wo, 23 juli, 2008 15:55, schreef Torgeir Veimo:
 Two questions:

 - does the card support changing output framerate between 50 and 60Hz
 without restarting VDR?

Currently, I've setup the output to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before it was set on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] With this change I didn't had to restart VDR and changes were
made instantly. I can only watch some FTA HD channels like Arte HD, BBC
HD, Axine HD, Luxe TV HD and the ones from my provider (Canal Digitaal NL)
and I didn't encounter any problems with viewing.

Concerning viewing, I'm not sure if they broacast in 50Hz or 60Hz. But
again, I got not problems when viewing several HDTV channels.

 - how is changing between video / s-video output and HDMI achieved?
 Can they be enabled simultaneously, or change automatically based on
 whether something is connected on the HDMI port?


I only watch using the HDMI port (my LCD-TV only has one HDMI input) on
the eHD. Normal viewing (read : X-session) is done using the regular
Analog output on my graphics card. So I can't really anwser your question
correctly.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Niels Wagenaar



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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-23 Thread Georg Acher
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:55:04PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote:
 
 - does the card support changing output framerate between 50 and 60Hz  
 without restarting VDR?

Yes, you can change the output mode (resolution, frequency, ...) in a
settings menu on-the-fly.

 - how is changing between video / s-video output and HDMI achieved?  
 Can they be enabled simultaneously, or change automatically based on  
 whether something is connected on the HDMI port?

Analog SDTV output (576i/480i) works only when HDMI outputs 576p/480p. For
all other modes, the analog port (usually in YUV) works in parallel with
HDMI. 

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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-23 Thread Goga777
several questions :)

- does eHD support 1080p ?
- which CPU do you have and what about cpu load during of decoding 1080i ?
- is it hard to buy this card in Europe ?


 Yesterday I've received my Reel eHD so that I can enjoy hardware
 accelerated DVB-S/DVB-S2 playback/output on my VDR-1.7.0 installation in
 combination with the S2-3200.


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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-23 Thread Niels Wagenaar
Op Wo, 23 juli, 2008 20:00, schreef Goga777:
 several questions :)


I'll try to anwser them ;)


 - does eHD support 1080p ?

Nope. Max is [EMAIL PROTECTED] And for normal viewing, 1080P is still a thing in
the very long future (for your information, we just got HDTV since March)
and it would be only be interesting for the HDDVD and BluRay movies.

 - which CPU do you have and what about cpu load during of decoding 1080i ?

I have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ with AMD
Cool'n'Quiet enabled. Currently it runs on 1Ghz (because of the AMD
Cool'n'Quiet) and vdr has a CPU load of 15% through 25%.

 - is it hard to buy this card in Europe ?

I ordered it online through Reel Germany. Ordered it Thursday, payed it
the same day using IBAN information and UPS delivered it yesterday :)

Niels Wagenaar


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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-23 Thread Goga777
  - does eHD support 1080p ?
 
 Nope. Max is [EMAIL PROTECTED] And for normal viewing, 1080P is still a thing 
 in
 the very long future (for your information, we just got HDTV since March)
 and it would be only be interesting for the HDDVD and BluRay movies.

yes,  I mean hdtv rips, hddvd/bluray content

  - which CPU do you have and what about cpu load during of decoding 1080i ?
 
 I have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ with AMD
 Cool'n'Quiet enabled. Currently it runs on 1Ghz (because of the AMD
 Cool'n'Quiet) and vdr has a CPU load of 15% through 25%.

may be you know - does Pentium 4 3 GHz will be enough ? 

  - is it hard to buy this card in Europe ?
 
 I ordered it online through Reel Germany. Ordered it Thursday, payed it
 the same day using IBAN information and UPS delivered it yesterday :)

fine :)

Goga


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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-23 Thread Georg Acher
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:52:04PM +0400, Goga777 wrote:
 
 may be you know - does Pentium 4 3 GHz will be enough ? 

Even 300MHz are enough. The CPU load is not a load that depends on CPU
speed. It depends mainly on the current state of the driver which transfers
the video data from the CPU over PCI without using bursts. Autonomous DMA
should be possible, but is not yet finished.

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 http://www.lrr.in.tum.de/~acher
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Re: [vdr] eHD, VDR and multimedia files

2008-07-23 Thread derblubber
For regular hdtv viewing over dvb-s2 this cpu should be more than fast  
enough. There are people running the eHD with a 700mhz Pentium 3 i  
have heard.


Am 23.07.2008 um 20:52 schrieb Goga777:

 - does eHD support 1080p ?

 Nope. Max is [EMAIL PROTECTED] And for normal viewing, 1080P is still a  
 thing in
 the very long future (for your information, we just got HDTV since  
 March)
 and it would be only be interesting for the HDDVD and BluRay movies.

 yes,  I mean hdtv rips, hddvd/bluray content

 - which CPU do you have and what about cpu load during of decoding  
 1080i ?

 I have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ with AMD
 Cool'n'Quiet enabled. Currently it runs on 1Ghz (because of the AMD
 Cool'n'Quiet) and vdr has a CPU load of 15% through 25%.

 may be you know - does Pentium 4 3 GHz will be enough ?

 - is it hard to buy this card in Europe ?

 I ordered it online through Reel Germany. Ordered it Thursday,  
 payed it
 the same day using IBAN information and UPS delivered it yesterday :)

 fine :)

 Goga


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