Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-25 Thread Barak Azulay
On 11/17/2011 06:14 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:58:33AM -0600, Adam Litke wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 03:46:37AM -0500, Ayal Baron wrote: >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence sum

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-20 Thread Jamie Lokier
>>> On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: We have another requirement. We need to embed the source for the guest agent in the QEMU release tarball. This is for GPL compliance since we want to include an ISO (eventually) that contains binaries. Paolo Bonzini wrote: > ovir

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-20 Thread Eric Gaulin
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:58:33AM -0600, Adam Litke wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 03:46:37AM -0500, Ayal Baron wrote: >> > >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > > I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one s

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-20 Thread Luiz Capitulino
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:09:10 +0200 Barak Azulay wrote: > On Wednesday 16 November 2011 22:24:51 Adam Litke wrote: > > I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence > > summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already > > featureful and tested, so let's drop

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Barak Azulay
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 22:24:51 Adam Litke wrote: > I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence > summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already > featureful and tested, so let's drop qemu-ga and have everyone adopt > ovirt-guest-agent. Not exa

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:58:33AM -0600, Adam Litke wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 03:46:37AM -0500, Ayal Baron wrote: > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence > > > summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agen

Re: converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Adam Litke
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 03:46:37AM -0500, Ayal Baron wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence > > summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful > > and tested, so let's drop qemu-ga and have e

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Alon Levy
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:59:35AM -0600, Michael Roth wrote: > On 11/16/2011 02:16 AM, Ayal Baron wrote: > > > > > >- Original Message - > >>Hi, > >> > >>On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: > >>> > >> > >> > >> > If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/17/2011 02:46 AM, Ayal Baron wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence >> summary of >> the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful and >> tested, so >> let's drop qemu-ga and have everyone adopt ovi

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/17/2011 02:59 AM, Ayal Baron wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> On 11/16/2011 11:53 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: >>> On Wednesday 16 November 2011 17:28:16 Michael Roth wrote: 2) You'd also need a schema, similar to qemu.git/qapi-schema-guest.json, to describe the calls yo

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Alon Levy
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 06:55:06PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 11/16/2011 02:47 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > >On 11/16/2011 06:07 AM, Alon Levy wrote: > >>On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > >>>Hi, > >>> > >>>On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: > >>>

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Ayal Baron
- Original Message - > On 11/16/2011 11:53 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 November 2011 17:28:16 Michael Roth wrote: > >> 2) You'd also need a schema, similar to > >> qemu.git/qapi-schema-guest.json, > >> to describe the calls you're proxying. The existing infrastructure > >>

Re: converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Ayal Baron
- Original Message - > I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence > summary of > the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful and > tested, so > let's drop qemu-ga and have everyone adopt ovirt-guest-agent. What we're suggesting is let's dro

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 11/16/2011 02:42 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > On 11/16/2011 07:39 AM, Dor Laor wrote: >> On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >>> We have another requirement. We need to embed the source for the guest >>> agent in the QEMU release tarball. This is for GPL compliance since we >>> want

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Gal Hammer
On 15/11/2011 19:33, Alon Levy wrote: > Does it have a seperate system level and user level part in Linux? It No. The ovirt-guest-agent have only one instance running in the system level. Gal. ___ vdsm-devel mailing list vdsm-devel@lists.fedor

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Itamar Heim
On 11/16/2011 04:20 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > ... >> >> It can just be a submodule (like we do with SeaBIOS, etc.). The only >> request is >> that we split guest agent out of vdsm so we don't have to also include >> all of >> vdsm in the release tarballs. That would make the guest agent an >>

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/16/2011 02:24 PM, Adam Litke wrote: > I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence summary > of > the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful and tested, > so > let's drop qemu-ga and have everyone adopt ovirt-guest-agent. Unfortunately, > this

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/16/2011 11:53 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: > On Wednesday 16 November 2011 17:28:16 Michael Roth wrote: >> 2) You'd also need a schema, similar to qemu.git/qapi-schema-guest.json, >> to describe the calls you're proxying. The existing infrastructure in >> QEMU will handle all the work of marshalli

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/16/2011 11:53 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: > On Wednesday 16 November 2011 17:28:16 Michael Roth wrote: >> On 11/16/2011 06:13 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: >>> On Wednesday 16 November 2011 10:16:57 Alexander Graf wrote: On 16.11.2011, at 08:05, Barak Azulay wrote: > On Wednesday 16 November

Re: converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Adam Litke
I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful and tested, so let's drop qemu-ga and have everyone adopt ovirt-guest-agent. Unfortunately, this track strays completely away from the stated goal of co

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Barak Azulay
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 17:28:16 Michael Roth wrote: > On 11/16/2011 06:13 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 November 2011 10:16:57 Alexander Graf wrote: > >> On 16.11.2011, at 08:05, Barak Azulay wrote: > >>> On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:42:30 Alexander Graf wrote: > On 1

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 11/16/2011 02:47 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > On 11/16/2011 06:07 AM, Alon Levy wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: >>> >>> >>> > If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion sh

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/16/2011 06:13 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: > On Wednesday 16 November 2011 10:16:57 Alexander Graf wrote: >> On 16.11.2011, at 08:05, Barak Azulay wrote: >>> On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:42:30 Alexander Graf wrote: On 16.11.2011, at 00:01, Michael Roth wrote: > But practically-speaki

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/16/2011 02:16 AM, Ayal Baron wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> Hi, >> >> On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: >>> >> >> >> If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start around collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Ayal Baron
- Original Message - > On 11/16/2011 07:39 AM, Dor Laor wrote: > > On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > >> We have another requirement. We need to embed the source for the > >> guest > >> agent in the QEMU release tarball. This is for GPL compliance > >> since we > >> want to

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/16/2011 06:07 AM, Alon Levy wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: >>> >> >> >> If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start around collecting requirements. We can th

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/15/2011 04:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was >>> about the guest >>> tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. >>> >>> One of t

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Dor Laor
On 11/16/2011 02:07 PM, Alon Levy wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: >>> >> >> >> If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start around collecting requirements. We can th

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/16/2011 07:39 AM, Dor Laor wrote: > On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >> We have another requirement. We need to embed the source for the guest >> agent in the QEMU release tarball. This is for GPL compliance since we >> want to include an ISO (eventually) that contains binaries.

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Dor Laor
On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > On 11/15/2011 04:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: >>> If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start >>> around >>> collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets of >>> requirements >>> are strictly overlapping or if the

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/15/2011 04:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: >> If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start >> around >> collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets of >> requirements >> are strictly overlapping or if there are any requirements that are >> fundamentally >>

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Barak Azulay
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 10:16:57 Alexander Graf wrote: > On 16.11.2011, at 08:05, Barak Azulay wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:42:30 Alexander Graf wrote: > >> On 16.11.2011, at 00:01, Michael Roth wrote: > >>> But practically-speaking, it's unavoidable that qemu-specific > >>> m

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Alon Levy
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: > > > > > > >>If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start > >>around > >>collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets of > >>requirements

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 05:01:00PM -0600, Michael Roth wrote: > On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: > >Hi, > > > >One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the > >guest > >tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. > > > >One of the issues discussed

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: > Hi, > > One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest > tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. > > One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out > there, and the need to co

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Alexander Graf
On 16.11.2011, at 00:01, Michael Roth wrote: > But practically-speaking, it's unavoidable that qemu-specific management > tooling will need to communicate with qemu (via QMP/libqmp/HMP/etc, or by > proxy via libvirt). It's through those same channels that the qemu-ga > interfaces will ultimate

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: > >> If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start >> around >> collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets of >> requirements >> are strictly overlapping or if there are any requirements that are >> fundame

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Alexander Graf
On 16.11.2011, at 08:05, Barak Azulay wrote: > On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:42:30 Alexander Graf wrote: >> On 16.11.2011, at 00:01, Michael Roth wrote: >>> But practically-speaking, it's unavoidable that qemu-specific management >>> tooling will need to communicate with qemu (via QMP/libqmp/

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Ayal Baron
- Original Message - > Hi, > > On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: > > > > > > >> If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start > >> around > >> collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets > >> of > >> requirements > >> are strictly over

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Barak Azulay
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:42:30 Alexander Graf wrote: > On 16.11.2011, at 00:01, Michael Roth wrote: > > But practically-speaking, it's unavoidable that qemu-specific management > > tooling will need to communicate with qemu (via QMP/libqmp/HMP/etc, or > > by proxy via libvirt). It's through

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Barak Azulay
On Tuesday 15 November 2011 21:45:42 Perry Myers wrote: > On 11/15/2011 01:08 PM, Subhendu Ghosh wrote: > > On 11/15/2011 01:01 PM, Perry Myers wrote: > >> On 11/15/2011 12:24 PM, Barak Azulay wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about > >>> t

Re: converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Ayal Baron
- Original Message - > On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: > > Hi, > > > > One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was > > about the guest > > tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. > > > > One of the issues discussed there, was the various exis

Re: converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Perry Myers
On 11/15/2011 01:08 PM, Subhendu Ghosh wrote: > On 11/15/2011 01:01 PM, Perry Myers wrote: >> On 11/15/2011 12:24 PM, Barak Azulay wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about >>> the guest >>> tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. >>

Re: converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: > Hi, > > One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest > tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. > > One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out > there, and the need to co

Re: converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: > Hi, > > One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest > tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. > > One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out > there, and the need to co

Re: converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Subhendu Ghosh
On 11/15/2011 01:01 PM, Perry Myers wrote: > On 11/15/2011 12:24 PM, Barak Azulay wrote: >> Hi, >> >> One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the >> guest >> tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. >> >> One of the issues discussed there, was the variou

Re: converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Perry Myers
On 11/15/2011 12:24 PM, Barak Azulay wrote: > Hi, > > One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the > guest > tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. > > One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out > there, and the ne

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Alon Levy
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 07:24:40PM +0200, Barak Azulay wrote: > Hi, > > One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the > guest > tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. > > One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out >

converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Barak Azulay
Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out there, and the need to converge the efforts to a single agent that will serve