[VFB] QFTD
Fishing is also a teacher. Lessons learned in a fishing boat are not lost when you return to shore. Ron Schara 100 Years of Fishing Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Prayers Needed for Jody
Jimmy Jody will be in our prayers Chuck Connell On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.netwrote: Jimmy: Will do. I hope that is all it is as well. Keep us posted, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net *To:* Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; Fly Fishing Worldflyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com; HIll country hillcountryflyfish...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 10:01 AM *Subject:* [VFB] Prayers Needed for Jody As many of you know, Jody had breast cancer, had a lumpectomy 6 years ago. Did Chemo and Radiation. She's had a clean bill of health, no cancer since then. Last exam in March of this year. She found a very small lump on her right side, not on the breast, but below the armpit. She and two of our kids have those fatty tumors. I'm praying that's all it is this time. She has an appointment with her Doc this morning to check it our. *Would appreciate your keeping Jody in your prayers that it's not a tumor/malignant. * Best, JIMMY D º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3148 - Release Date: 09/20/10 12:04:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Off-topic
Same here, Allen. DonO - Original Message - From: Dan To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Off-topic She, and your whole family will be in my thoughts and prayers Alan, Dan Harriman Orange Texas If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky diving! --- On Sat, 9/18/10, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [VFB] Off-topic To: Virtual Flybox vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 8:44 PM This is off-topic, so if you want to kick me out...do so. I would appreciate prayers for my daughter, Penny Abell. She's going in for an MRI on Thursday to see if her brain tumor is beginning to recur or if the chemo is keeping it in remission. Thanks. a. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rene- guides
Wow, Scott, that's a lot of good info. This gets saved in the gear/rods/lines folder. Why slick guides would matter to me: 1. When it's really windy here, like 70% of the time, to get any accurate distance, I have to really speed up a short cast, power up the last cast, and then shoot the remaining 1/3rd or so distance. I use 10# flouro because anything less would make the weighted fly snap off with the inertia (change of direction). A looping cast will be blown to who knows where. Yeah, everyone deals with the wind, but they all say Casper's wind is ridiculous after they've fished here any length of time. 2. When I lake-fish and those spooky buggers are rising like crazy 100' away and won't take anything closer. And if I'm fishing from the shore and I need go get past the weed-line, or if I have to shoot distance because of back-side obstructions. 3. When I saltwater fish and need long casts. With Casper's wind, I find that the rod's power is much more important than the guides*. Then, matching the right line to the rod, sometimes a weight lighter, sometimes one over. Keeping in mind my casting technique timing, which has to change with every set-up. * I've never really experimented with guides, so this is a good thread for me. Keeping the line clean and supple is necessary, unless I'm fishing in cold weather- supple isn't there.** Going to try some Shark-skin line to see if that improves my casting distance. Next show. ** Remember that Casper is the 3rd worst weather in the country. A big portion of that misery is the wind, a tunneling effect because of the shape of the mountain ranges around us. DonO - Original Message - From: Scott Bearden To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rene- guides If double hauling is your thing and you need to reach way out and shoot line, then the slickness of the guides will dramatically help your cast. Buy the very best ceramic inserts you can buy. Don't buy the cheap knock offs, buy Fuji and do all the guides, the stripper, and the tip top. Begin each fishing session with a clean and lubricated line or none of this will amount to much. Personally I would only do this on salt water rods or maybe salmon or steelhead rods. If you are casting beyond 50 or so feet in fresh water for trout then I have to question how you can cast to a particular rising fish, or see even a size 14 adams, let alone a size 20 midge. Or for that matter, how do you get a good drift with multiple currents between you and the fish? Just to give you guys an idea of how gimmicky this stuff can be, just a decade ago teflon coated guides were available for custom rod builders and they didn't last long. Unfortunately fishing equipment is subject to the same rules of consumerism as anything else. Consumers get bored with otherwise outstanding products if they are not tweaked and labeled improved over last year's model. If you look over time, the first guides were just a tip top guide and you beached the fish after swinging a brace of a dozen or more flies through a pool of fish. Then someone decided they wanted to retrieve the line, so they added trumpet guides and then later floppy ring guides sometime around or after the Civil War. Snake guides were used prior to the turn of the century, but didn't catch on for a couple of decades. After WW2 there were several short lived guides with cork screws or other catchy gimmicks. REC recoil guides are interesting, but they have yet to saturate the market. Buy what makes you happy, and rest easy that if you don't like them, they are fairly inexpensive compared to anything else going on the rod and they can be replaced if you don't like them. A lot of this is psychological. So if you have already made up in your mind what will make you happy on a rod, then by all means satisfy that desire. If you build a rod you love, then you will fish it more often, and that is a good thing. The Sharkskin lines cast a lot like the old silk lines. They make a lot of noise, but they do cast well. But I don't have much need for long distance casts. Scott On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: I think the slickness of the guides, and the shape of the guides on the regular eyes that have the (usually plastic) inserts, if those are oval, round etc, I would think that would speed up, or slow down a line. My 1 1/2 cents worth, Chuck - Original Message - From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rene- guides Rene, I dunno... the slickness of the guide material would seem to be more important than the shape, it you're like shooting the line. Otherwise, it don't seem to matter much. That new Sharkskin flyline claims to move thru the guides
Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps- new ideas from VFBers
Chuck, now you're talking 'material swaps', something we used to do a lot of. Get 10 tiers off line and make up swap-bags to trade out. My idea is for bulk purchasing discount. A few may need to trade out, but someone has to come up with the cash. Cruise the Moscow Hide Fur site. Call for discounts of low-demand or highly damaged pelts for flytying. Chinchillas are not that expensive and tho small, make a ton of dubbing. DonO - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps- new ideas from VFBers Me too. If Bob, or somebody had a lot of extra, they could make up grab bags for example (there might not even be the EXACT type pelts in ALL the bags, depending on how much he (or whoever) had, and then we who were in the swap but don't really dub a whole lot, Like Larry and myself here, could be able to get a bunch of different small patches. That would be PERFECT for my needs/wants anyway. PLEASE, somebody like Bob, or Joyce, or whoever might have a lot of extra dubbing type pelts, consider doing a grab bag type sell off. I (and I know others who either don't need a lot, or can't afford a lot of whole pelts) would certainly appreciate that Chuck - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps- new ideas from VFBers I am not interested in a lot of dubbing, certainly whole pelts. I don't do that much dubbing, especially of one color. Small patches of several basic colors sounds more reasonable, and likely that I would/could be interested in. If it happened that someone were to meister a swap which would include smaller samples (2x2 or 2x4) I would go for it.. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3143 - Release Date: 09/18/10 01:34:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out !!!!1
MeddelandeNick, I don't think Jimmy was singling you or Chuck or me out with exclamation points or the comment in general. Yours was the last email on the topic and that made it the one he replied to the list on. So it seemed like he was addressing you (or Chuck?) and it was, I believe, the thread that he was impersonally addressing- all the way back to Allen. I've seen this very thing happen before a number of times, and people get bent out of shape over an indirect fingerpoint. It was an idea, not an accusation. Jimmy had no intention to make anyone look stupid, and I didn't take it that way. Allen's comment, as we all know, was tongue-in-cheek. Any adverse reactions to that comment were, by extension, misinformed. We have always welcomed prayer requests, so why should this one be different. DonO - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 Well, I'm sorry for commenting on too many scentences in Allan's message. But before starting your hammering on the exclamation key, think a little bit yourself if you actually believe that I thought Allan sat worrying about getting banned... for asking for prayers. And you don't have to incorporate something that hasn't got anything to do with it just so you can get a chance to speak to me like I'm stupid either. I know quite well who you're talking about, without thinking a little bit, as I was pretty involved in it myself. Heck, I thought you knew me rather well after six years together here. At least I thought that you thought you knew me. Not so sure anymore... /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Jimmy D. Moore Skickat: den 19 september 2010 23:12 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 I ain't kicking nobody out !! Done that already, last year. Think a little bit and you'll remember who it was. And no, it wasn't Chuck . JIMMY D Niclas Runarsson wrote: Something like that is never off-topic in the VFB family. (If someone kicks you out, then I'll join you.) Your daughter will be in our prayers here in Sweden. /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] QFTD
Valid for wading as well Don Ordes wrote: Unless you fell over and drowned... Buggs - Original Message - *From:* Rick Zieger mailto:rdzieg...@yahoo.com *To:* VFB mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; flyfishingworld mailto:flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com ; HIll country mailto:hillcountryflyfish...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:11 AM *Subject:* [VFB] QFTD Fishing is also a teacher. Lessons learned in a fishing boat are not lost when you return to shore. Ron Schara100 Years of Fishing Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Finding hooks and backing for Fly boxes
Hi Jim; Here are a couple of hook ideas: http://stores.ebay.com/Har-Lee-Rod/MUSTAD-HOOK-SALE-/_i.html?_fsub=1624363018_sid=15998378_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 first is Harleerod, selling Mustad classic hook styles, can be had for as little as $0.99 per 500 plus shipping. http://stores.ebay.com/Togens-Fly-Shop/Hooks-/_i.html?_fsub=4996021_sid=302050183_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 Second, Togens fly shop has hooks in contemproary styles for as little as $7.50 per hundred plus shipping. For fly storage, a lot of people have been making thier own fly boxes from inexpensive plastic boxes and craft foam. Here's one example: http://dharmaofthedrift.blogspot.com/2010/08/my-flats-fly-box-for-under-five-bucks.html Another: http://ultralightflyfishing.yuku.com/topic/2825 Hope this helps; Wayne --- On Fri, 9/17/10, Jim Forshey j...@seahorses.com wrote: From: Jim Forshey j...@seahorses.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Finding hooks and backing for Fly boxes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 11:33 PM Hi I would like to thank all of you for your e-mails and suggestions, most I would have never thought of. To answer some of the questions; Off the Hook Fly Shop is a great shop with a good owner. I was hoping to buy maybe 50 to 100 hooks at a time. When we get to tying we could go thought that many hooks in a day. Some of our tying look good and some of them look like Andy Warhol was giving us tying direction, but we have fun and that is what matters. The backing you suggested I am sure going to look into. I am not looking for low quality hooks, I just want to buy some good quality hooks in a larger amount, hopefully making them cost a little less each. In regards to storing, sometimes we make a large amount, more than we would even use, I like to store the extra away hoping when she get older she can look back to what she did and what phase she was in, at one time she only did purple. It currently brings back memories for me when I look at them (I think our oldest are from 2007, she would have been 10 then). I use to use a box by Scientific Anglers, I use to find them on sale now and then for around $10 to $20. Now they are running $39.95 plus 6 inserts at $15.95 each, That is way to much for me. I am looking to make some storage boxes using some 1 x 12 x 12 slide cases. I always look for the swaps, I do not know how I missed the hook-swap. I also try and watch for the fly swap, but by the time I getting to reading my e-mails it always look like it is full. I am retiring on 11/30, hopefully after that I can read my e-mails on a timely basis and can join in some swaps. I never been to a Sportsman's warehouse, I will need to find one. Thank you for the suggestions of the caring boxes, a friend dropped by about 30 tin boxes the local store gave him, so I am set there for a while. Thank you for the help and great ideas. Jim Forshey The Aquatic Book Shop Placerville, California www.Seahorses.com ´¯'·.¸¸..º.·´¯'·.¸¸.·´¯'·.¸º¸.·´¯'·.¸. ,. ´¯'·.¸¸..º.·´¯'·.¸¸.·´¯'·.¸º¸.·´¯'·.¸. ,. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out !!!!1
Well, it looked like that to me since he didn't say a word about it in his reply to Allan, that he posted before I mentioned it... and the fact that mine was the only quoted even though Allan's was quoted in mine didn't make me feel less behind the cross hairs either. I know that Allan's wasn't more than tongue-in-cheek, since most of us have asked for prayers in the past... and that's why I didn't expect to see something like that coming towards that comment. But I don't care what was meant by it. It doesn't matter. I got angry about what was said and what was not said, not about who he is. We have been good friends for six years and it takes more than one disagreement about words to make me question a friendship like that. But two hours after my last word in that discussion, any trace of irritation left disappeared anyway... to be replaced with prayers for Jody. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Don Ordes Skickat: den 20 september 2010 02:45 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 Nick, I don't think Jimmy was singling you or Chuck or me out with exclamation points or the comment in general. Yours was the last email on the topic and that made it the one he replied to the list on. So it seemed like he was addressing you (or Chuck?) and it was, I believe, the thread that he was impersonally addressing- all the way back to Allen. I've seen this very thing happen before a number of times, and people get bent out of shape over an indirect fingerpoint. It was an idea, not an accusation. Jimmy had no intention to make anyone look stupid, and I didn't take it that way. Allen's comment, as we all know, was tongue-in-cheek. Any adverse reactions to that comment were, by extension, misinformed. We have always welcomed prayer requests, so why should this one be different. DonO - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson mailto:niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 Well, I'm sorry for commenting on too many scentences in Allan's message. But before starting your hammering on the exclamation key, think a little bit yourself if you actually believe that I thought Allan sat worrying about getting banned... for asking for prayers. And you don't have to incorporate something that hasn't got anything to do with it just so you can get a chance to speak to me like I'm stupid either. I know quite well who you're talking about, without thinking a little bit, as I was pretty involved in it myself. Heck, I thought you knew me rather well after six years together here. At least I thought that you thought you knew me. Not so sure anymore... /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Jimmy D. Moore Skickat: den 19 september 2010 23:12 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 I ain't kicking nobody out !! Done that already, last year. Think a little bit and you'll remember who it was. And no, it wasn't Chuck . JIMMY D Niclas Runarsson wrote: Something like that is never off-topic in the VFB family. (If someone kicks you out, then I'll join you.) Your daughter will be in our prayers here in Sweden. /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's
Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps- new ideas from VFBers
Wow ! These guys at Moscow H F have a ton of materials, most of which are used for tying. I am interested in some of the materials (in small amounts), but right now I don't have the $$ available to buy all the skins. Also, meistering a swap like this would be a long drawn out process. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 9/19/2010 11:18 AM Chuck, now you're talking 'material swaps', something we used to do a lot of. Get 10 tiers off line and make up swap-bags to trade out. My idea is for bulk purchasing discount. A few may need to trade out, but someone has to come up with the cash. Cruise the Moscow Hide Fur site. Call for discounts of low-demand or highly damaged pelts for flytying. Chinchillas are not that expensive and tho small, make a ton of dubbing. DonO - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps- new ideas from VFBers Me too. If Bob, or somebody had a lot of extra, they could make up grab bags for example (there might not even be the EXACT type pelts in ALL the bags, depending on how much he (or whoever) had, and then we who were in the swap but don't really dub a whole lot, Like Larry and myself here, could be able to get a bunch of different small patches. That would be PERFECT for my needs/wants anyway. PLEASE, somebody like Bob, or Joyce, or whoever might have a lot of extra dubbing type pelts, consider doing a grab bag type sell off. I (and I know others who either don't need a lot, or can't afford a lot of whole pelts) would certainly appreciate that Chuck - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps- new ideas from VFBers I am not interested in a lot of dubbing, certainly whole pelts. I don't do that much dubbing, especially of one color. Small patches of several basic colors sounds more reasonable, and likely that I would/could be interested in. If it happened that someone were to meister a swap which would include smaller samples (2x2 or 2x4) I would go for it.. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3143 - Release Date: 09/18/10 01:34:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Finding hooks and backing for Fly boxes
I am interjecting a thought here to start a thread in the middle of the discussion about hooks and hook prices, etc. Forgive me. Here is my question: How do you-all manage hook storage? I am convinced that most of you have at least as many hook styles and sizes as I do. I really like the large boxes with 12 or 15 separate compartments. Spirit River sells them specifically for hooks... I take the label from the hook packages and glue them to the side of each compartment. It's a good system, and identifies each style and size correctly. However, there is a lot of wasted space in these big boxes unless you buy enough hooks to fill the compartments. I have them stacked up and handy near my vise. Do you label these boxes for dry fly hooks, wets, streamers, etc.? I have waited a while to bring this subject up, but this is as good a time as any. Thanks for listening. I will be waiting for all your good ideas. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com 9/21/2010 1:29 PM Hi Jim; Here are a couple of hook ideas: http://stores.ebay.com/Har-Lee-Rod/MUSTAD-HOOK-SALE-/_i.html?_fsub=1624363018_sid=15998378_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 first is Harleerod, selling Mustad classic hook styles, can be had for as little as $0.99 per 500 plus shipping. http://stores.ebay.com/Togens-Fly-Shop/Hooks-/_i.html?_fsub=4996021_sid=302050183_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 Second, Togens fly shop has hooks in contemproary styles for as little as $7.50 per hundred plus shipping. For fly storage, a lot of people have been making thier own fly boxes from inexpensive plastic boxes and craft foam. Here's one example: http://dharmaofthedrift.blogspot.com/2010/08/my-flats-fly-box-for-under-five-bucks.html Another: http://ultralightflyfishing.yuku.com/topic/2825 Hope this helps; Wayne --- On Fri, 9/17/10, Jim Forshey j...@seahorses.com wrote: From: Jim Forshey j...@seahorses.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Finding hooks and backing for Fly boxes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 11:33 PM Hi I would like to thank all of you for your e-mails and suggestions, most I would have never thought of. To answer some of the questions; Off the Hook Fly Shop is a great shop with a good owner. I was hoping to buy maybe 50 to 100 hooks at a time. When we get to tying we could go thought that many hooks in a day. Some of our tying look good and some of them look like Andy Warhol was giving us tying direction, but we have fun and that is what matters. The backing you suggested I am sure going to look into. I am not looking for low quality hooks, I just want to buy some good quality hooks in a larger amount, hopefully making them cost a little less each. In regards to storing, sometimes we make a large amount, more than we would even use, I like to store the extra away hoping when she get older she can look back to what she did and what phase she was in, at one time she only did purple. It currently brings back memories for me when I look at them (I think our oldest are from 2007, she would have been 10 then). I use to use a box by Scientific Anglers, I use to find them on sale now and then for around $10 to $20. Now they are running $39.95 plus 6 inserts at $15.95 each, That is way to much for me. I am looking to make some storage boxes using some 1 x 12 x 12 slide cases. I always look for the swaps, I do not know how I missed the hook-swap. I also try and watch for the fly swap, but by the time I getting to reading my e-mails it always look like it is full. I am retiring on 11/30, hopefully after that I can read my e-mails on a timely basis and can join in some swaps. I never been to a Sportsman's warehouse, I will need to find one. Thank you for the suggestions of the caring boxes, a friend dropped by about 30 tin boxes the local store gave him, so I am set there for a while. Thank you for the help and great ideas. Jim Forshey The Aquatic Book Shop Placerville, California www.Seahorses.com ́̄'·.̧̧..º.·́̄'·.̧̧.·́̄'·.̧º̧.·́̄'·.̧. ,. ́̄'·.̧̧..º.·́̄'·.̧̧.·́̄'·.̧º̧.·́̄'·.̧. ,. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To
RE: [VFB]Hook Storage
Larry you evil highjacker you! LOL! This is what I started using for hooks: http://www.craftmates.com/locking.html They come in several sizes and are available at JoAnns crafts. Each row has a spring loaded lock for that row with snap action lids for each individual compartment, the bottoms are rounded. I either place labels from the hook package in the compartment or I'm in the process of creating external labels for the compartments. The smaller boxes work well for beads too. Wayne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Hook storage
Hi Larry; This is what I use: http://www.craftmates.com/locking.html They come in several sizes, have spring loaded locks for each row with snap lids for each compartment and curved compartment bottoms. I've been cutting the labels off the hook boxes and placing in compartment with hook but I think I'm going to male labels for the outside of each compartment. Wayne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps- new ideas from VFBers
My dubbing isn't on pelts..just in bags, such as SLF and those you can get in any good fly shop. I love that stuff, as well as UV dub. Again, not pelts, bags. Much of my plain dark dubbing fur to hold things together comes from Lion brand wool/acrylic yarn which I cut up and turn to dubbing in a coffee blender. The rest comes from washing, drying and then brushing the beagle with a furminator (great dubbing getting tool). Joyce On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Chuck, now you're talking 'material swaps', something we used to do a lot of. Get 10 tiers off line and make up swap-bags to trade out. My idea is for bulk purchasing discount. A few may need to trade out, but someone has to come up with the cash. Cruise the Moscow Hide Fur site. Call for discounts of low-demand or highly damaged pelts for flytying. Chinchillas are not that expensive and tho small, make a ton of dubbing. DonO - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps- new ideas from VFBers Me too. If Bob, or somebody had a lot of extra, they could make up grab bags for example (there might not even be the EXACT type pelts in ALL the bags, depending on how much he (or whoever) had, and then we who were in the swap but don't really dub a whole lot, Like Larry and myself here, could be able to get a bunch of different small patches. That would be PERFECT for my needs/wants anyway. PLEASE, somebody like Bob, or Joyce, or whoever might have a lot of extra dubbing type pelts, consider doing a grab bag type sell off. I (and I know others who either don't need a lot, or can't afford a lot of whole pelts) would certainly appreciate that Chuck - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps- new ideas from VFBers I am not interested in a lot of dubbing, certainly whole pelts. I don't do that much dubbing, especially of one color. Small patches of several basic colors sounds more reasonable, and likely that I would/could be interested in. If it happened that someone were to meister a swap which would include smaller samples (2x2 or 2x4) I would go for it.. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3143 - Release Date: 09/18/10 01:34:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out !!!!1
What the heck is this all about, we are family here are we not. I guess I missed something . Replies off list only.. Tony --- On Tue, 9/21/10, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 2:31 PM Meddelande Well, it looked like that to me since he didn't say a word about it in his reply to Allan, that he posted before I mentioned it... and the fact that mine was the only quoted even though Allan's was quoted in mine didn't make me feel less behind the cross hairs either. I know that Allan's wasn't more than tongue-in-cheek, since most of us have asked for prayers in the past... and that's why I didn't expect to see something like that coming towards that comment. But I don't care what was meant by it. It doesn't matter. I got angry about what was said and what was not said, not about who he is. We have been good friends for six years and it takes more than one disagreement about words to make me question a friendship like that. But two hours after my last word in that discussion, any trace of irritation left disappeared anyway... to be replaced with prayers for Jody. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Don Ordes Skickat: den 20 september 2010 02:45 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 Nick, I don't think Jimmy was singling you or Chuck or me out with exclamation points or the comment in general. Yours was the last email on the topic and that made it the one he replied to the list on. So it seemed like he was addressing you (or Chuck?) and it was, I believe, the thread that he was impersonally addressing- all the way back to Allen. I've seen this very thing happen before a number of times, and people get bent out of shape over an indirect fingerpoint. It was an idea, not an accusation. Jimmy had no intention to make anyone look stupid, and I didn't take it that way. Allen's comment, as we all know, was tongue-in-cheek. Any adverse reactions to that comment were, by extension, misinformed. We have always welcomed prayer requests, so why should this one be different. DonO - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 Well, I'm sorry for commenting on too many scentences in Allan's message. But before starting your hammering on the exclamation key, think a little bit yourself if you actually believe that I thought Allan sat worrying about getting banned... for asking for prayers. And you don't have to incorporate something that hasn't got anything to do with it just so you can get a chance to speak to me like I'm stupid either. I know quite well who you're talking about, without thinking a little bit, as I was pretty involved in it myself. Heck, I thought you knew me rather well after six years together here. At least I thought that you thought you knew me. Not so sure anymore... /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Jimmy D. Moore Skickat: den 19 september 2010 23:12 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 I ain't kicking nobody out !! Done that already, last year. Think a little bit and you'll remember who it was. And no, it wasn't Chuck . JIMMY D Niclas Runarsson wrote: Something like that is never off-topic in the VFB family. (If someone kicks you out, then I'll join you.) Your daughter will be in our prayers here in Sweden. /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is
Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out !!!!1
Tony, when I talked about kicking somebody off it was our friend from upstate New York. And, I didn't really kick him, Mark off, Byard did. Some of the guys thought I was pointing at list members asking for prayers. I would never reprimand somebody for asking for help, whether it be on or off topic or for prayers. In fact, I asked for prayers for Jody yesterday for her surgery today to remove a fatty tumor. Everyone on this list has my respect and apreciation. Without you, there wouldn't be a VFB Cheers, and Best Wishes to All. JIMMY D Anthony Spezio wrote: What the heck is this all about, we are family here are we not. I guess I missed something . Replies off list only.. Tony --- On Tue, 9/21/10, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 2:31 PM Well, it looked like that to me since he didn't say a word about it in his reply to Allan, that he posted before I mentioned it... and the fact that mine was the only quoted even though Allan's was quoted in mine didn't make me feel less behind the cross hairs either. I know that Allan's wasn't more than tongue-in-cheek, since most of us have asked for prayers in the past... and that's why I didn't expect to see something like that coming towards that comment. But I don't care what was meant by it. It doesn't matter. I got angry about what was said and what was not said, not about who he is. We have been good friends for six years and it takes more than one disagreement about words to make me question a friendship like that. But two hours after my last word in that discussion, any trace of irritation left disappeared anyway... to be replaced with prayers for Jody. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Don Ordes Skickat: den 20 september 2010 02:45 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 Nick, I don't think Jimmy was singling you or Chuck or me out with exclamation points or the comment in general. Yours was the last email on the topic and that made it the one he replied to the list on. So it seemed like he was addressing you (or Chuck?) and it was, I believe, the thread that he was impersonally addressing- all the way back to Allen. I've seen this very thing happen before a number of times, and people get bent out of shape over an indirect fingerpoint. It was an idea, not an accusation. Jimmy had no intention to make anyone look stupid, and I didn't take it that way. Allen's comment, as we all know, was tongue-in-cheek. Any adverse reactions to that comment were, by extension, misinformed. We have always welcomed prayer requests, so why should this one be different. DonO - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson /mc/compose?to=niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com /mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 Well, I'm sorry for commenting on too many scentences in Allan's message. But before starting your hammering on the exclamation key, think a little bit yourself if you actually believe that I thought Allan sat worrying about getting banned... for asking for prayers. And you don't have to incorporate something that hasn't got anything to do with it just so you can get a chance to speak to me like I'm stupid either. I know quite well who you're talking about, without thinking a little bit, as I was pretty involved in it myself. Heck, I thought you knew me rather well after six years together here. At least I thought that you thought you knew me. Not so sure anymore... /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Jimmy D. Moore Skickat: den 19 september 2010 23:12 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out 1 I ain't
Re: [VFB] RE: Hook Storage
Wayne et al I have 2 of those (like them), also an 8-stack compartment box rack, a 50-drawer untility cabinet, 4 or 5 saltwater hook compartment boxes, and assorted giant hooks hanging all over the place, with sheet-magnets scattered over holding unsorted hooks. And those are the places I remember. I also have lots of hooks scattered in tying kits- specifically for one type of fly, like in the shrimp-drawer or the #32 kit. Sometimes I can find the hook I want on the same day I start looking. And fly storage and sorting is just about as bad. DonO - Original Message - From: Wayne Blake-Hedges To: virtual flybox Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: [VFB] RE: Hook Storage Hi Larry; This is what I started using: http://www.craftmates.com/locking.html Available in several sizes, they have spring loaded locks for each row, snap lids for each compartment, curved compartment bottoms, and are available from craft stores. I've been placing hook box labels in compartments with hook but think I will make labels for outside each compartment. Wayne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Finding hooks and backing for Fly boxes
Larry, 'Problem' is that nowadays the scope of hook styles goes way beyond sizes. (I'm not complainin'.) There are so many manufacturers, styles, metals, colors, specialized shapes, custom bends, that it's just impossible to keep track of them, at least, be well organized. I try to divide salt, fresh, giant fly hooks first. Then I separate fresh into long streamer, salmon irons, and custom hooks. Then I separate fresh into general wet or dry. Then I separate those in hook styles in those catagories. Then I separate those into sizes. Same for the saltwater- offshore, inshore, long shank, short shank, popper, giant, etc. I get lost halfway through looking and Buggs reminds me the rest of the way, unless he's been...you know. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] Finding hooks and backing for Fly boxes I am interjecting a thought here to start a thread in the middle of the discussion about hooks and hook prices, etc. Forgive me. Here is my question: How do you-all manage hook storage? I am convinced that most of you have at least as many hook styles and sizes as I do. I really like the large boxes with 12 or 15 separate compartments. Spirit River sells them specifically for hooks... I take the label from the hook packages and glue them to the side of each compartment. It's a good system, and identifies each style and size correctly. However, there is a lot of wasted space in these big boxes unless you buy enough hooks to fill the compartments. I have them stacked up and handy near my vise. Do you label these boxes for dry fly hooks, wets, streamers, etc.? I have waited a while to bring this subject up, but this is as good a time as any. Thanks for listening. I will be waiting for all your good ideas. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com 9/21/2010 1:29 PM Hi Jim; Here are a couple of hook ideas: http://stores.ebay.com/Har-Lee-Rod/MUSTAD-HOOK-SALE-/_i.html?_fsub=1624363018_sid=15998378_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 first is Harleerod, selling Mustad classic hook styles, can be had for as little as $0.99 per 500 plus shipping. http://stores.ebay.com/Togens-Fly-Shop/Hooks-/_i.html?_fsub=4996021_sid=302050183_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 Second, Togens fly shop has hooks in contemproary styles for as little as $7.50 per hundred plus shipping. For fly storage, a lot of people have been making thier own fly boxes from inexpensive plastic boxes and craft foam. Here's one example: http://dharmaofthedrift.blogspot.com/2010/08/my-flats-fly-box-for-under-five-bucks.html Another: http://ultralightflyfishing.yuku.com/topic/2825 Hope this helps; Wayne --- On Fri, 9/17/10, Jim Forshey j...@seahorses.com wrote: From: Jim Forshey j...@seahorses.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Finding hooks and backing for Fly boxes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 11:33 PM Hi I would like to thank all of you for your e-mails and suggestions, most I would have never thought of. To answer some of the questions; Off the Hook Fly Shop is a great shop with a good owner. I was hoping to buy maybe 50 to 100 hooks at a time. When we get to tying we could go thought that many hooks in a day. Some of our tying look good and some of them look like Andy Warhol was giving us tying direction, but we have fun and that is what matters. The backing you suggested I am sure going to look into. I am not looking for low quality hooks, I just want to buy some good quality hooks in a larger amount, hopefully making them cost a little less each. In regards to storing, sometimes we make a large amount, more than we would even use, I like to store the extra away hoping when she get older she can look back to what she did and what phase she was in, at one time she only did purple. It currently brings back memories for me when I look at them (I think our oldest are from 2007, she would have been 10 then). I use to use a box by Scientific Anglers, I use to find them on sale now and then for around $10 to $20. Now they are running $39.95 plus 6 inserts at $15.95 each, That is way to much for me. I am looking to make some storage boxes using some 1 x 12 x 12 slide cases. I always look for the swaps, I do not know how I missed the hook-swap. I also try and watch for the fly swap, but by the time I getting to reading my e-mails it always look like it is full. I am retiring on 11/30, hopefully after that I can read my e-mails on a timely basis and can join in some swaps. I never been to a Sportsman's warehouse, I will need to find one. Thank you for the suggestions of the caring boxes, a friend dropped by about 30 tin boxes the local store gave him, so I am set there for a while. Thank you for the help and great ideas. Jim Forshey The Aquatic Book Shop Placerville, California www.Seahorses.com ́̄'·.̧̧..º.·́̄'·.̧̧.·́̄'·.̧º̧.·́̄'·.̧.
