Re: [VFB] Old fart swap picture

[Joyce M Westphal]

Beautiful!

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 6:55 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail 
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> Nice one Jack.
>
> On Thursday, 18 May 2023 at 13:52:24 UTC+1 Peggy Brenner wrote:
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>> Beauty Jack!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 1:14 AM Jack Harford  wrote:
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>>> Here is my entry :D
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 8:50 PM Pete Gramp  wrote:
>>>
 Here's my submission for the old farts swap. It is a Rangely lakes
 streamer called the "Messalonski Lake Streamer". It has a special place in
 my heart because every summer our family travels to Maine and stays in one
 of the 2 "cottages" (think "shack with pumped in non-potable lake water and
 electricity") right on lake Messalonski.
 Thanks,
 -Pete

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Re: [VFB] Dirty Bug Yarn

[Joyce M Westphal]

I got some from Dakota Angler in SD and was amazed as it looks, feels and
is much like the tan Vintage DK yarn I buy by the skein at the local yarn
shop.  They also have a great light pink Vintage DK that makes fine flies
as well. Glad someone is making it in smaller amounts than a 200 gm skein.
Joyce

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 1:18 PM Pete Gramp  wrote:

> I haven't seen any emails in a long while on the VFB, perhaps because of
> the USA Thanksgiving holiday, but I have to share this.  On a whim, and on
> the recommendation of a fly tying buddy of mine, Tim Cammisa (you likely
> know him from his YouTube videos), I tried out a new SemperFli product
> called "Dirty Bug Yarn".  At first, I thought this to be "just another
> yarn," but it is anything but that!  It comes in mottled colors, one of
> which is as close to a 477 match as I have ever seen, and it comes in a
> thinner-than-Antron-yarn, two-ply "strand" (though if it is 2-ply, I guess
> it is a cord and not a strand).  Somewhere between embroidery yarn
> thickness and a single-ply of Antron yarn for thickness.  Very minimally
> shaggy - just enough, but not "chenille" shaggy.  More like "mole fur
> dubbing noodle" or "thin superfine dubbing noodle" fuzz.  It is there, but
> not much.  The thing with this stuff is that it blends really well - it
> doesn't look like you wrapped a cord around a hook.  It looks like a
> single, continuous body that is perfectly mottled and buggy looking.  I
> find it perfect for just about all small to medium gamefish flies (trout
> and grayling is what I have in mind) from emergers to nymphs, dries to
> parachutes.  I even caught an 11" rainbow on a mini-bugger (size 14) with
> this as the body material.  That is about the biggest I would push it for
> the hook *length,* though (not hook size, but length) because the dirty
> bug yarn doesn't add much bulk to the hook, and it looks weird if you have
> a very long and very skinny hook.  At least, it looks odd (or
> "under-dressed" to me.  JStockard (jsflyfishing.com) carries this stuff -
> no affiliation, but I know it isn't easy to locate, so that's the only
> reason I mention this.  But I would encourage you, if you have 5 quids to
> toss towards this product, definitely try it out!  The mottled colors not
> only look great from a "fly fisher's" perspective, but they truly do catch
> more fish from a "fish catching" perspective!
> Again, I have no affiliation with SemperFli, JStockard, or anything
> mentioned; I just wanted to rave about an awesome material that is a
> game-changer for me.
> Hope you are all well,
> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers wanted/needed

[Joyce M Westphal]

You have my prayers for you and your family. I am sorry you are so ill but
you are on the drugs I think are most effective in controlling this virus.
Hoping for peace and health for you and yours.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Chuck Alexander <
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> Folks: My wife, my daughter, and myself need your thoughts and prayers
> badly. My daughter tested pos. for Covid 19 day before yesterday. My wife
> did yesterday, and I tested positive today.  And since my wife had been around
> out daughter a lot last Saturday, and I was  around our daughter Sunday.
> And our daughter , who is a lunch room lady had a co worker who tested
> positive last Friday, exposed our daughter, who then, we think infected
> us..
>
> Anyway, we were a systematic till our daughter woke up Monday with her
> taste buds, and her sense of smell all but gone. anyway, our daughter
> went down hill from there and went to our (we all use the same doc) then
> my wife woke up Wed with the above mentioned symptoms, except that she
> was really short of breath because she has   COPD even though she never
> smoked a cigarette etc. Anyway, I woke up today with a 100.5 fever, body
> aches, ringing in my ears, etc, etc, etc.
>
> And my doc was especially concerned  about me as I’m 7 yrs older than my
> wife etc. So, the doc put us all on high doses of  D3, C, and Zinc . He
> also put use all on Azithromiacin,  Hydroxychloriaquin, as well as
> Dexamethasone. He also made us promise to drink aa gallon of water per
> day till we get well. He asked me f I felt bad enough to need to be in the
> hospital as I am also dehydrated, but I told him I promise to drink the
> water LOL. They took their first doses on Tuesday and Wednesday, and today 
> respectively.
> It’s amazing  though that I took my first doses at 9am this morning and I
> already and eel better already. Anyway, as I said, your thoughts and
> prayers would me more than welcomed. Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Skin cancer

[Joyce M Westphal]

Praying that it is not a melanoma, but if it should turn out to be one,
that he has wonderfully wide margins. Jyce

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 1:06 PM Chuck Alexander <
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> Folks: Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers as I had to have two
> more skin cancers removed from my right arm and shoulder yesterday that
> they turn out to be either basal cell or squamous  rather than much more
> dangerous melanoma. Weird though cause the one on my shoulder popped up a
> cpl months ago and the one on my arm only two weeks ago, yet to get to
> all normal looking tissue, he had to go ll the way to the bone on my arm.
> I like the way he does ot in that instead of doing a biopsy than coming
> back to get it removed  if it’s malignant, he likes to go ahead are remove
> the whole thing, then send it off. That way you only have a one visit
> removal.
>
> Anyway, I’ll should the results he says by Friday. Thanks, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

[Joyce M Westphal]

Thank you so much for this information.  I shall continue to treasure my
time with him.  Joyce

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 8:00 AM Allan Fish  wrote:

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>
> > On Aug 15, 2020, at 9:55 AM, Peggy Brenner 
> wrote:
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> >
> > Maybe next year for Sowbug we should all meet there for a  moment of
> silence in his honor and before we all get to 90.
> >
> > Peggy
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> ABSOLUTELY!
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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

[Joyce M Westphal]

Prayers for both he and  Dot continue as well as for Alan Fish.  I am
fortunate to be able to think of Tony with special vibes every time I fish
the rod he made for me.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 8:16 PM Michael Bliss  wrote:

> I will pray for him and give thanks that I have known him and called him
> my friend.
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:16 PM Scott Bearden 
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>> FYI, Keep Tony in your prayers. He has several major hurdles to overcome.
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>> From: Mike Stout
>> Date: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:23 PM
>> Subject: Tony Spezio
>>
>> For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had
>> to
>> have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
>> heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son in
>> law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There is
>> also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30
>> days.
>> They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
>> second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently
>> on
>> the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
>> have more information.
>>
>> Mike
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

[Joyce M Westphal]

I am so sorry to hear this news. Not surprised as he said he was in kidney
failure. I am hoping Dot will be OK in the nursing home.  I am fortunate to
have one of his beautiful specialty rods. Joyce

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 5:01 PM Michael Bliss  wrote:

> Shoot.  This is sad.  I feel fortunate to have known Tony and called him
> friend.  Time just keeps moving along.  It’s taking its toll on all of us.
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 15, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Allan  wrote:
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> 
> I received a saddening phone call from Tony today.  He was very difficult
> to understand but he wanted me to post on the lists that he will no longer
> be able to make rods.  He has sold his lathe and some other equipment.
> There is still one rod at his house he would like to sell.  I think he said
> he would sell it for $500, but I am not certain.  He has some smaller tools
> available.  He did not say how to get them, but if you have are interested,
> I have his son Robert's e-mail address.
>
> Tony said he is no longer able to read nor to use the internet.  He is
> very weak and I could tell it took all his effort to even make the phone
> call.  He was trying to tell me something and then just said "Bye" and hung
> up. Hi nursing home is like most others and allows no visitors,
>
> I am very sad to have to write this.
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Re: [VFB] Health and weather

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Good to hear from you. I await patterns for the new flies you tied. Joyce

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:26 PM Gary Webb  wrote:

> Good to hear you're getting healthier Chuck.   I'm doing well, but
> Susan has had some setbacks.  I won't go into details.  Just keep us in
> your prayers as I know you do.   Weather here is typical Wisconsin in
> February.  Ten inches of snow last Sunday and minus 18 this morning.  The
> sun was shining but I wasn't even tempted to try for some trout.  Barely
> took my dog for a walk. When we get a day where temps get above freezing
> I'll be out trying some new patterns I tied recently.
> Gary
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> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:40 PM Chuck Alexander <
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>> Folks: since the group is real slow, so I thought I’d send a health and
>> weather email out asking about everybody. How is everybody’s health and
>> weather??? I FINALLY got over the pneumonia and dehydration I was
>> hospitalized because of   for a few days back in November. I kept a
>> hacking cough for over three months before getting rid of if FINALLY .
>> And I think we have had rain for about 30 STRAIGHT.  And I hope to fix a
>> few more things on my boat and boat trailer so we can boat fish as much
>> as possible this yr but it’s always raining so I haven’t been able to
>> work on it. Hope everybody is at least doing “fair to middlin’ “as we say
>> in the deep South here, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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Thanks for this update. Thoughts and prayers for Tony and Dot as well as
Don O.  Our age is not treating us gently. Joyce

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> Home to tie!!  Just to see Tony and Dot.
> I really miss seeing him. Shirley and I will keep those two in our
> prayers!!
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> Buck...……….
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> Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply.
> Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.
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> Tony Spezio called me tonight.  He is currently in the hospital at
> Mountain Home.  He is suffering from congestive heart failure, massive
> urinary tract infection, pneumonia and his kidneys are failing.   He
> will be in the hospital several days then moved to the same nursing home
> that his wife Dot is in.
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> For those of you who haven't heard, Dot has suffered a massive stroke
> and can not talk.
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> I hate to say this but it doesn't look good at this point in time.
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Re: [VFB] Dot

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Prayers continue.  However, there is hope as slowly her brain is rewiring
its connections, a good sign.  Joyce

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> Thanks for all the prayers and well wishes.
> Dot is trying to say some words but is such a low voice that they are not
> understandable and forgets what she just said.
> We still have a long way to go, prayers still needed.
> Arkansas Tony
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> Wonderful news Tony.   Gary
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> Best CHRISTMAS gift today, I clearly heard Dot say MERRY CHRISTMAS to my
> daughter on the phone and to a nurse.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Update

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Thanks for the update. I am hoping this will miraculously resolve.  Joyce

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> Update on my wife Dot, More than likely she had a stroke. She is still
> pretty well unresponsive. She will be going to a nursing home when released
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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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I am so sorry.  Prayers. Joyce

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> Prayers needed,
> My wife Dot is in the hospital. She has been unresponsive for a couple of
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Re: [VFB] Espresso Midge

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http://www.fullingmill.com/Products-US/Tactical-Flies-Nymph-US/Espresso-Midge-Black-Barbless-S16-US

Here is the picture. I think I'd tie it on a 16 down eye jig hook,
tungsten, or not, maybe just a plain glass copper bead.  Dark brown thread,
tie in thin ribs of silver wire (i'd use silver mylar) and then Krystal
flash in pearl. Do the body with thread, wind the two ribs so both show,
then a dub, I'd use olive brown thorax, tie off thread behind the bead.  I
often tie a midge like this on a regular caddis Stealth size 16 or 14
hook.  Check out Stealth hooks. They are black, strong, and sized to actual
fish food.   http://www.stealth.fish/.
Only have 114 more flies to tie, 3 different patterns, and the flies for
the Christmas orders and my personal gift boxes will be done. Sent
prototypes home with my sister as she does the beautiful arrangements and
packaging. Wore out my Nor-vise and had to send it back for repairs. Had to
use a Regal and boy, did I miss the spinning part of the Nor-vise.
However, still had the use of the Eckich bobbin. The Nor-vise has  been
completely repaired, no cost to me, as it is under lifetime warranty.  Joyce

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 9:24 AM Michael Bliss  wrote:

> Does anyone have the pattern for the espresso midge?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed myself

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Chuck, prayers for you.  Just know that with a walking pneumonia, it
usually takes almost a month for your lungs to heal enough so you quit the
hacking. Suggest your doctor gives you a codeine cough medicine.  So sorry
you are so ill. Joyce

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:15 PM Phxflytyer  wrote:

> We will include you in our prayers. My fishing buddy is recovering from
> the same thing. He went to the Dr and got antibiotics and is on the mend.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
> Real funny Scotty?
> Now beam down my clothes!
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2019, at 2:03 PM, Chuck Alexander <
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
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> 
>
> Folks: Speaking of prayer request, I could use some as well. I have
> walking pneumonia. Started about 2 weeks and so I went to see my doc and
> they gave me shots of antibacterial, as well as a steroid shot. Then, he
> called me in some Ampicillin  and a Methylprednisolone Z pack, so It took
> those for 8 days and 6 days respectively. Finished both of the (along
> with Robitussin) meds, yet my cough is staying and today had been worse
> than ever. I have an appt to see him this Thursday, but it feels like I’m
> hacking up my lungs. Just last night I coughed s hard I pulled a
> muscle in my abdomen. Anyway, hopefully he can give me something that
> works this tin. Thanks, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Prayers Need

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Prayers will continue. Joyce

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:09 AM haerbob3  wrote:

> Thanks
>
>
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> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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>  Original message 
> From: Chuck Alexander 
> Date: 11/18/19 11:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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> Bob: I’ll keep the whole family on my prayer list, Chuck
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> *Subject:* [VFB] Prayers Need
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>
>
> Hi Guys, I know it has been a very long time since I posted anything  I
> have have been dealing with a serious medical issues.  My family is
> desperate of of prayer.  Nov 2nd we lost my mom.  That wasn't enough on Nov
> 14th my oldest nephew was killed in an accident.  Matt leaves behind a
> wife, step daughter and son.
>
>
>
> With my  self I need to have left shoulder removed due an infection.
> Surgery is on Dec 6th
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> Thanks
>
> BobH
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Re: [VFB] DonO update 05 Aug 2019

[Joyce M Westphal]

Thank you for the update.  Constant pain is so difficult.  I feel for him.
Joyce

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 11:18 AM Neville Gosling 
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> Dear Fellow VFB’ers
>
> Traded a couple of texts with DonO this morning and here is his response.
> It must be very tough to be in almost constant pain. He uses an iPad but
> even that is difficult for him. I phoned him a few days ago, but no answer
> and I didn’t want to bother him any further.
>
> "Thanks Nev..
> Still battling the pain syndrome. 
> Got some pink squirrels tied with a friend, coming along.珞. Please
> Tell the VFB friends I think about them a lot and miss being able to share
> posts.
> Have so many new rope-dub ideas but no can tie yet to demonstrate.
> How are Tony and the rest doing? GTMB "
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Re: [VFB] From Rene

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Oh so glad to hear this. Prayers continue. Joyce

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> today we got great news. Anna had a visit from the head physician (he is
> reporting on a regular basis), and he is very satisfied how the 2 girls are
> doing. We have still a very long road ahead of us, nobody expect that they
> will leave the ICU before Christmas, but they are improving.
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Re: [VFB] Prayers welcome

[Joyce M Westphal]

Prayers for all three indeed.  They are having excellent care which should
give you some comfort. Joyce

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 12:44 PM Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

> Rene: I'll keep them all in my thoughts and prayers. Ppl are surprised to
> learn how preemie that babies can be so early and still be viable. One of
> my best friends here  when his first grand baby was born at 5 1/2 months
> and the baby was the  soda of a 12 soda can and weighed only 16 ounces.
> Well, yes, she has to stay in the neonatal ICU for a few months. But today
> at 5 1/2 yrs old, she's of average weight, height, healthy as a horse  and
> even played T ball baseball this yr, Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 1:29 PM
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> Subject: [VFB] Prayers welcome
>
> Folks,
>
> some of you know my youngest daughter Anna. She attended with me the
> sowbug some 14 years ago. In the meantime a nice and very intelligent young
> lady, she is married and is working as a lawyer in the area of food safety.
>
> She was pregnant with twins, and yesterday she had to give birth. It was
> no as scheduled, and way too early. They need to do an emergency-caesarian
> within few minutes, luckily she was already in one of the best hospitals
> which is specialized for preterm delivery.
>
> All 3 are alive, Anna is doing well but still suffers from the rather rude
> treatment.
>
> The 2 babies  are stable but are on risk. The hospital are able to help
> when it happens after a certain duration of the pregnancy, and the babies
> are exact on this day - not even one day extra. Each baby has one nurse
> which is exclusively monitoring this single child. as they work 8h shift
> and monitoring is needed all the time, this are 3 nurses for one baby. Just
> to give you an impression where we are.
>
> We pray that this turns out well.
>
>
> Rene
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Re: [VFB] Flex Seal ???

[Joyce M Westphal]

I have used Flex seal on broken or cracking unfired bricks and so far it
has held up well in constant sun and rain for the past 2 years. Don't know
how it would do on a boat, but so far have been very happy with the way it
has held up.  Joyce

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 11:22 PM Chuck Alexander <
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> Folks: I’m getting my 14ft aluminum on boat ready for the fishing season
> now and I’m using both aluminum brazing rods and JBW (JB Weld to seal up
> the edges of a cpl little fiberglass cracks from years ago and the
> brazing rods for and loose rivets, and a couple of 1” or so cracks. But
> after all that, I plan to paint the whole bottom of the boat  in Flex Seal
> on the underside of the boat. Has anybody hear used flex seal in the
> past?? If o, did it work as good as they claim on the TV ads?? I don’t
> believe for a minute you could saw a boat in half, down the middle, then
> put a motor on it then “glue” the boat back together and it not leak or
> come apart, but I do want it to protect against last as good as possible.
>
> Thing is, in order to put two coats on the bottom of my boat I need two q
> uarts (if not more and the stuff is #0 per qt and that’s a lot of money to me.
> Thanks. Wife and I got the old fishing licenses renewed an I’ just
> waiting on the brazing rods to get her from Chiner LOLL Tracking say thee
> plane they were on landed in the US yesterday, so maybe I’ll have them by
> Saturday I hope. With a new 55 pound thrust ne trolling motor we bought last
> yr and combine that thing has a whopping 81 pounds of thrust with my 36
> pound foot control trolling moor up front. The thing looks like you could
> pull a skier behind it when we took it out last yr.  My wife sit in back a
> nd puts the big motor on high a nd just holds it straight, while I steer
> the boat from the front and we get to where want to fish pretty fast Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15

[Joyce M Westphal]

So sorry to hear of your pains, both of you.  Life can be a bummer at
times.  I feel your pain and worry for both of you. Joyce

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 9:41 AM 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
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> Thanks Gary really wold like to have you make it but family comes first.
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 10:20:34 AM CDT, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
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> Take care of yourself first Don.
>
> Rick
>
>
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> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:40 AM
> *Subject:* RE: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
>
> My flies have been done for a week, they’re going out this weekend.
>
> J
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Ron Boutin
> *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2019 8:26 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
>
> Don, good to hear that you are doing somewhat better. The nerve pain you
> are dealing with can be very difficult. Don’t worry about the swap, just
> take care of yourself.
>
> Ron
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 5:02 PM, DonO  wrote:
>
> Hi Gary and all swappers,
>
> I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that
> my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome  or “post-stroke
> central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome.
>
> Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the
> pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible.
>
> So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be
> my life.
>
> I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of
> commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues
> are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though
> it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way.
>
> So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of
> flies, plus tie my set.
>
> I’ll give an update after my first flies.
>
> I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive.
>
> If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the
> pain, I have a fall-back plan or two.
>
> Cheers, DonO
>
>
> *Subject:* [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update?
>
> Don,  actually I just want to be sure you are OK.
>
> Gary
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Re: [VFB] Poor Tony

[Joyce M Westphal]

So sorry to hear this.  Bummer.  I shall pray for a rapid recovery. Joyce

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 7:26 AM 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
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>
> Still in the hospital. Day 10. Having more problems.
> Tony
> On Friday, March 8, 2019, 7:41:47 PM CST, Allan Fish 
> wrote:
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>
> Poor Tony Spezio.  As if he hadn't had enough medical challenges, he has
> spent most of this week in the hospital with pneumonia.  He hopes to go
> home today or tomorrow.
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> af
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Re: [VFB] wally wing tool

[Joyce M Westphal]

Just ordered the Daniel Williams spleisnadel.. I received a message from
Jan who said that his contact is ii...@finestflyfishing.de and if a bunch
of us want to order them, we could possibly do so as a group and thus save
shipping costs. THe cost is 21.58 Euro or 25.00 US.  I will let you know
how it works when I get it. Joyce

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> If you are handy why not take a sewing needle insert it in a length of
> dowel for a handle and grind out part of the eye loop leaving a slight hook.
> Arkansas Tony
>
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019, 12:43:35 AM CST, Henk Verhaar <
> h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl> wrote:
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>
> But the link leads to a video, which demonstrated a needle which helps to
> split a thread, It's in German, so I'm pretty sure. 
>
>
> Not sure whether this is the same tool, but Marc Petitjean has a bodkin
> especially for splitting thread, that is basically a sowing machine needle
> with a handle. I’ve made a number of these myself over the years (to sell
> and to give away); they’re dead easy to make. Get (buy, or pilfer someone’s
> sewing basket) a heavy sewing machine needle, like a jeans needle, and
> attach a handle. Viola...
>
>
> ==Heisenberg was right!
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Re: [VFB] wally wing tool

[Joyce M Westphal]

The needle has a hook on one side that grabs the side of  the thread and
pulls it apart.  He mentioned that one could feel the tiny hook with their
finger.  I have asked, in German, where one can buy such a device. The
video did not say where one could obtain it. I use a common sewing machine
needle as my thread splitting needle and it seems to work quite well.
However, I'd love to get my hands on the Spleissnadel.

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 4:01 PM Phxflytyer  wrote:

> Can’t imagine how expensive that vise cost? I have three vices but don’t
> think the cost of them together would approach that one?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Rene Zillmann 
> wrote:
>
> Hm Rick,
>
> not sure if it is the same video,
>
> But the link leads to a video, which demonstrated a needle which helps to
> split a thread, It's in German, so I'm pretty sure. 
>
>
> Rene
>
> On 02/18/2019 11:30 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
>
>   ran onto this on the net.
>
>
> https://youtu.be/kKOTqJDJBFE
> 
>
> Rick
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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?

[Joyce M Westphal]

Sure, it is as easy to do 19 as 18.  Joyce

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 5:02 PM DonO  wrote:

> Hi Tony, nice to hear from you.  I figured you were busy with health
> issues and silent because you didn’t need another swap to stress you out.
> So sorry about that.  Thanks for the info and for being around for us. Sure
> hope you’ve gotten ahead of this new problem in time. Will keep you in my
> prayers.
>
> I can maybe send you a group of extra PSQN flies if that would work for
> you.  I’ll bet the guys won’t have a problem tying one more for you.
>
> *Eh Guys,* *19 instead of 18?  One for the Tiger?*
>
> DonO
>
>
> *From:* 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:07 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info
>
> Been following this. Wish I was able to  do it. Right now I am too tied up
> with doctors.
> Have therapists and nurses that are here every day of the week for therapy
> and to bandage wounds that have now appeared on my other foot. That is the
> same as started on my left foot that lead to amputation.
> Arkansas Tony
>
> On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 3:32:40 PM CST, Chuck Alexander <
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Don: Look at bright side. As long as I’m in the swap, the worst you could
> do is second to last LOL. Seriously, hope to rope dub mine, Chuck
>
>
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *DonO
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:32 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info
>
>
>
> *Welcome all* to the fly swap and *thank you.*
>
> I will do my best on my batch and hopefully I can tie something worthy to
> toss at fish.
>
>
>
> Hope to create & post a fly plate photo when done.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Don
>
>
>
> *From:* DonO 
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2019 1:00 PM
>
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info
>
>
>
> Mail flies to: 14505 N. Presidio Loop, Nampa ID 83651
>
> SASE or equal. Add toe-tags.
>
> Don
>
>
>
> *From:* DonO 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2019 8:48 PM
>
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- Final Swapper List etc.
>
>
>
> Not too late Donna- you’re spot #18.   ;o)
>
> See list below.
>
>
>
> *Since VFB traffic* is not an issue nowadays, do y’all want to keep swap
> correspondence on list, or take it off.  All posts for the swap will have
> the subject line PSQN SWAP.
>
>
>
> *So we have 18 flies due by Feb. 28th.*  Does that work?  Can submit
> extras or design efforts for charitable donations.
>
>
>
> Rest of details to follow shortly.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Donna Crowell 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2019 7:34 PM
>
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink
> Squirrel Nymph
>
>
>
> Is it to late to sigh up ?
>
>
>
>  Donna…...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:51 PM ladyflytyer  wrote:
>
> Oh good I made the swap.
>
>
>
> Peggy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: DonO 
> Date: 1/25/19 4:55 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel
> Nymph
>
> Thanks Jack.
>
>
>
> *From:* DonO 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2019 1:04 PM
>
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink
> Squirrel Nymph
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks to all who have signed up.  IOFFers rule!
>
> Just a 2 more as we’ll have the 18 we need. If I missed you, please let me
> know.
>
>
>
> *Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/24 am)*
>
> *1.  Rick Zieger*
>
> *2.  Allan Fish*
>
> *3.  Neville Gosling*
>
> *4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)*
>
> *5.  Don Ordes*
>
> *6.  Renr Zillman*
>
> *7.  Gary Webb  *
>
> *8.  J Balmer*
>
> *9.  Ron Boutin*
>
> *10.  Alan Di Somma*
>
> *11.  Mel Hocken*
>
> *12.  Jack Harford*
>
> *13.  Mike Bliss*
>
> *14.  Joyce Westphal *
>
> *15.  Keith Passant*
>
> *16.  Darren MacEachern*
>
> *17.  Peggy Brenner*
>
> *18.  Donna Crowell*
>
>
>
>
>
> I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate
> for a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it
> and have probably fished it.
>
>
>
> If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this
> pattern!
>
> [image: Image result for crawfish took a pink squirrel fly]
>
>
>
> *Ye Rooles:* (for IOFFers)
>
>
>
> 1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
>
> 2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
>
> 3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
>
> 4.  Broad range of quarry fish
>
> 5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose
>
>
>
> 6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary- *wet, nymph,
> or scud hooks*
>
> 7.  Gray or *mottled brown* body 

Re: [VFB] off the vice the last few days

[Joyce M Westphal]

These are great flies. I like the leggy one. Both will work well for me on
the Provo  Thanks for sharing. Joyce

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> A few warmwater flies.
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

[Joyce M Westphal]

Nice ties.  Thanks for sharing.

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:26 AM Jack Harford 
wrote:

> Wet flies with peacock, turkey, and soft hackle 
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 12:06 PM Rene Zillmann  wrote:
>
>> Pete,
>>
>> nice ty. I've fished a lot of Klimnkhammer in the past,maybe I do some
>> more for next summer
>>
>> KR
>>
>> Rene
>> On 11/23/2018 11:56 PM, Pete Gramp wrote:
>>
>> Wanted to challenge myself, with my eyes starting to begin to focus a tad
>> more with me getting my blood sugar numbers lower (140s this week, which is
>> supposedly quite good considering I started at 1085 with the DKA), so I
>> tied the attached fly - a size 16 artificial peacock quill bodied
>> klinkhammer.  Post is made of Fly Tyer's Dungeon material called "Water
>> Silk" - wanted to try it out, and it is ok but quite "poofy" to work with
>> for the purpose of a post.  Please excuse the hackle being undersized... it
>> was a goof from poor lighting more than poor eyesight... and being golden
>> badger, a pale one at that, it looks even smaller than it truly is... but
>> considering I could barely focus to tie a size 12 a few weeks ago, I'd say
>> I'm progressing fairly well.  Tied on my HMH TRV vise - love this vise, it
>> is truly my dream vise, even if the jaws are a knock-off of the LAW vise
>> jaws (personal opinion).  I view that as a plus, personally.
>> Picture attached, and hopefully I figured out how to resize it
>> adequately... sorry if I didn't do it correctly.
>> -Pete
>> [image: Pete's Fly.jpg]
>>
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

[Joyce M Westphal]

I expect it will work well. The sunken stone, similar only with an orange
underbody, did wonderfully during stone season. My fishing rods and lines
are put away for the winter..but will come out again come spring.  Right
now there is avalanche danger along the river in my favorite spots.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:43 PM Michael Bliss  wrote:

> Joyce, if you try it on the Provo and it works well let me know.
>
> Mike
>
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 3:10 PM Joyce M Westphal 
> wrote:
>
>> That should be Roag Hog for Loch Roag.  If I have done it correctly, here
>> it is from the magazine. Joyce
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 12:43 PM Phxflytyer  wrote:
>>
>>> Joyce:
>>>
>>> Would you be able to post a picture of that fly. I do not get the
>>> Flyfishing & Tying mag.?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>> Alan Di Somma
>>> Mesa, Az.
>>>
>>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Joyce M Westphal 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice fly.  I often use Aunt Lydia's rug yarn, single strand as a post.
>>> Currently finishing up so Road Hog flies, but need to find some more dark
>>> deer hair.  These flies were in the Flyfishing and Tying journal and I
>>> think will work well on the Provo.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 10:48 AM Rene Zillmann <
>>> rene.zillm...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gang,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hm,.. sorry, that I did not answer any of your posts. Was wondering
>>>> that
>>>> nobody was answering my question about your tying  I do not get the
>>>> mails.
>>>>
>>>> Just checked in google groups, and saw a lot of answers. Strange that I
>>>> do not get the mails, even not all of mine...
>>>>
>>>> Rene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/02/2018 09:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
>>>> >
>>>> > What are you doing to tie next?
>>>> >
>>>> > I'll do 2 main things:
>>>> >
>>>> > I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body
>>>> > colors, to the the effect of the various colors next year.
>>>> >
>>>> > And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
>>>> >
>>>> > And what are you doing?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Rene
>>>> >
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

[Joyce M Westphal]

It is in the November 2018 Flyfishing & Flytying magazine (from the UK).
It is a standard hedgehog pattern   You can see some tied on Youtube. You
can certainly tie it any size that works for you. It reminds me of the Blue
Ribbon flies sunken stone pattern. I found the metallic thread by doing an
online Google search but also found my local fly shop had it. You can often
also find things like that at JoAnns. My JoAnns did not have it, however. I
wound it onto my Nor-vise bobbin using the spool stuck on my sewing machine
thread holder and my electric drill to do the winding. I'm tying mine on a
size 11 Stealth dry fly hook. The thread is a bit thinner and easier to
break than standard 8-0 Uni but still does a good job. I'm reinforcing the
bottom at the end of the fly tying with Flexament.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 5:04 PM Pete Gramp  wrote:

> I just read the post of the fly from the journal, and I stand corrected -
> that fly would certainly work in the waters where I fish.  Now to get that
> embroidery floss, or to find a retailer of SemperFly material... I'm on a
> quest, I suppose!  Any info on retailers of the material in the USA (sent
> straight to me) is most welcome.
> Thanks for sharing the pattern!
> -Pete
>
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 6:50 PM Pete Gramp  wrote:
>
>> Which issue of the Flyfishing and Tying Journal was it in, Joyce?  I
>> can't seem to locate that fly in the Winter 2019 issue, but I may have
>> missed it... you have my curiosity going here.  From the name of the fly, I
>> doubt I'd ever fish it, based on the water types I fish most often (very
>> narrow, slow flowing brooks and streams with trout of max size ~10 inches
>> in length)... but you never know, if tied small enough, they may work where
>> I fish :)  And besides, I tie spey and atlantic salmon flies in 6/0 size
>> and goodness knows I'll likely not fish those any time soon!  Some day, I
>> hope, but not any time soon... unless I win an all expense paid trip or
>> something haha.
>> -Pete
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 2:43 PM Phxflytyer  wrote:
>>
>>> Joyce:
>>>
>>> Would you be able to post a picture of that fly. I do not get the
>>> Flyfishing & Tying mag.?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>> Alan Di Somma
>>> Mesa, Az.
>>>
>>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Joyce M Westphal 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice fly.  I often use Aunt Lydia's rug yarn, single strand as a post.
>>> Currently finishing up so Road Hog flies, but need to find some more dark
>>> deer hair.  These flies were in the Flyfishing and Tying journal and I
>>> think will work well on the Provo.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 10:48 AM Rene Zillmann <
>>> rene.zillm...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gang,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hm,.. sorry, that I did not answer any of your posts. Was wondering
>>>> that
>>>> nobody was answering my question about your tying  I do not get the
>>>> mails.
>>>>
>>>> Just checked in google groups, and saw a lot of answers. Strange that I
>>>> do not get the mails, even not all of mine...
>>>>
>>>> Rene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/02/2018 09:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
>>>> >
>>>> > What are you doing to tie next?
>>>> >
>>>> > I'll do 2 main things:
>>>> >
>>>> > I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body
>>>> > colors, to the the effect of the various colors next year.
>>>> >
>>>> > And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
>>>> >
>>>> > And what are you doing?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Rene
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

[Joyce M Westphal]

Nice fly.  I often use Aunt Lydia's rug yarn, single strand as a post.
Currently finishing up so Road Hog flies, but need to find some more dark
deer hair.  These flies were in the Flyfishing and Tying journal and I
think will work well on the Provo.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 10:48 AM Rene Zillmann 
wrote:

> Gang,
>
>
> hm,.. sorry, that I did not answer any of your posts. Was wondering that
> nobody was answering my question about your tying  I do not get the
> mails.
>
> Just checked in google groups, and saw a lot of answers. Strange that I
> do not get the mails, even not all of mine...
>
> Rene
>
>
> On 11/02/2018 09:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
> >
> > What are you doing to tie next?
> >
> > I'll do 2 main things:
> >
> > I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body
> > colors, to the the effect of the various colors next year.
> >
> > And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
> >
> > And what are you doing?
> >
> >
> > Rene
> >
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

[Joyce M Westphal]

Thanks.  That Dr.  Mike sounds like a winner fly. Joyce

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 9:35 AM J Balmer  wrote:

> Mostly tie what I need to replace for the year, unless there’s a swap or
> two. Coupla three musky & smallmouth streamers too.
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
> *Sent:* Friday, November 2, 2018 3:18 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?
>
>
>
> Tying Dr. Mikes for donations.  Then pan fish bitch creek, followed by
> furled tail leeches.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
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> *Subject:* [VFB] What is in your vices?
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
>
>
>
> What are you doing to tie next?
>
>
>
> I'll do 2 main things:
>
>
>
> I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body colors,
>
> to the the effect of the various colors next year.
>
>
>
> And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
>
>
>
> And what are you doing?
>
>
>
>
>
> Rene
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

[Joyce M Westphal]

Need to know the pattern for Dr. Mikes. Currently tying my variation of
Carson/Corrib flies. Joyce

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:15 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

> Rene,
>
> I'm going to sort through many years of fly swaps and see if even need
> to tie anything. :-)
>
> My winter projects are doing some woodburning, getting rid of a lot of
> 'stuff' that  has accumulated over the years, and digitizing several
> thousand Kodachrome/Ektachrome slides (if they're not already badly faded).
>
> Allan
>
> On 11/2/18 4:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
> >
> > What are you doing to tie next?
> >
> > I'll do 2 main things:
> >
> > I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body
> > colors, to the the effect of the various colors next year.
> >
> > And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
> >
> > And what are you doing?
> >
> >
> > Rene
> >
>
>
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Re: [VFB] Great news

[Joyce M Westphal]

So good you are home, Tony,  Give yourself time to heal and  gain
strength.  Prayers for you continue. Joyce

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:11 PM Phxflytyer  wrote:

> Good to hear from you Tony. Just hang in there. Things will get better.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2018, at 4:10 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
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> Day 4 at home, great to be here.
> Have to learn some new ways to do some things but I will do that.
> I did attend the FFF Fly Fair for a few hours on Friday, found I was too
> shakey to tie.
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 10:14:03 AM CDT, Michael Bliss <
> flyfish...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> We love you Tony
> Mike
>
> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 7:46 AM Phxflytyer  wrote:
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> TNX Allan
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> > On Oct 6, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> >
> > Tony Spezio is HOME!  At last!   It's been nearly 3 months.
> >
> > He's back on-line.
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

[Joyce M Westphal]

So good to hear.  Then he can get busy finishing the bamboo rod he had
underway before his health problems.   Joyce

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> Good to hear.
>
> Rick
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:53 PM
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> Thanks for the good news Allan. Hope he continues to improve.
>
> Buck Hall Celina, OH e.hal...@yahoo.com
> Live simply. Love generously.
> Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:38 PM, Allan Fish 
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> I just got a call from Tony.  He called Sunday and said that he felt
> like the walls are closing in on him.  He has not been home for 3
> months.  But today they told him he can go home a week from tomorrow.
> He is really excited.
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> Allan
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

[Joyce M Westphal]

I am so sorry, but know his life is more important to us and him. Praying
for him and that he will quickly get a prosthesis and rehab.  Do you have a
current address?  Thanks. Joyce

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 8:46 AM J Balmer  wrote:

> So sad to hear, but glad he’s otherwise ok.
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Scott Bearden
> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2018 9:21 AM
> *To:* Virtual Box Fly 
> *Subject:* [VFB] Tony Spezio update
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> I am cross posting this from bamboo rodmakers list from yesterday. Keep
> Tony in your prayers:
>
>
>
> "Texted with Gina this morning, and Tony has had surgery. Originally were
> going to take a toe but complications required the surgeons to take his
> lower leg up to mid-shin. Gina reports his vitals are stable as of 10:42
> MST today, 8/19/18.
>
>
>
> -Don Smith"
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> Regards,
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>
>
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Re: [VFB] new mouse - Percy

[Joyce M Westphal]

Fantastic mouse. I couldn't do it with good eyes and two hands.  Joyce

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> Glad to hear this.  You still do better deer hair than I do.
> Rick
>
>
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> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:24 PM
> *Subject:* [VFB] new mouse - Percy
>
> To my friends at the VFB - an update and some good news.
>
> My recovery from the stroke is going very well and quickly.  Feeling a
> little better each day, but it still feels like  I was rode hard and put
> up
> wet.
>
> I have 'issues' with the entire right side of my body, but therapy has
> given
> me limited use of the affected areas.
> I have progressed to a cane for walking, but I'm nowhere mobile yet.
> My eyesight will take time, but I'm told it will recover- hopefully back
> to
> normal. No hope of tying a #32 RC right now.  40% blind (the right side of
> each eye gone).
>
> So that leaves my right hand- the real meat of this memo.
>
> I decided to challenge it and myself by tying a mouse pattern as my first
> try.  A 1-hour tie took over 20 hours- lost track of time.  Just threading
> the bobbin took an hour (spastic muscles with no feeling), tying an anchor
> took 2 hours. You get the picture- not pretty.
> But out of it crawled Percy (for 'perseverance').  He's not too tightly
> wrapped, but that applies to the tier also. But he looks good for a Baits
> Hotel resident.
>
> Joyce knows what this fly represent in stroke therapy just 3 months in.
>
> Next- rope dubbing.
>
> Working on my fly casting also. Not pretty either. Neither is my
> penmanship.
>
> But I did manage to draw a fly if anyone wants to see my 'Picasso'.
>
> Regards, Don
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Re: [VFB] Bad news and Great news.

[Joyce M Westphal]

So glad that Tony only lost his toe.  Prayers for  him continue.  Joyce

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Neville Gosling 
wrote:

> Yes, much better. My father was shot by the rear gunner of a German bomber
> in North Africa during WWII.  One bullet hit him the the foot and the
> second bullet went through his leg glancing the bone in the process. He was
> in danger of having his leg amputated but the subsequent swelling and
> infection subsided just in time. He did lose his entire big toe which was
> amputated. He is still alive today at 102 years old and the loss of his toe
> did not stop him from enjoying a normal life.
>
> The moral of this story is “Tony don’t stop doing want you want to do!”
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> BC  Canada
>
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2018, at 13:11, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
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>
> Better than what I thought I might read.
>
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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> Tony Spezio called me today.  His bad news was that he had to have a toe
> amputated on Saturday.
>
> His great news was that the surgeon felt the foot did not need to be
> amputated.
>
> He is still in the hospital at the moment.
>
> Allan
>
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Re: [VFB] Update

[Joyce M Westphal]

So sorry to hear t his, but hoping that you will be fitted with a
prosthesis as soon as possible. Prayers my friend.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Chuck Alexander <
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> My daddy lost his left foot in a motorcycle, but once they got him the
> correct prosthesis he could outrun me in a foot race, Chuck
>
>
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Rene Zillmann
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 21, 2018 2:49 PM
> *To:* 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Update
>
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Bad messages have often positive components. Even if the situation is bad
> and horrible, they can do something to improve it. And today, if just a
> foot is missing - I know about more horrible things.
>
> Even with a missing foot, you might be able to fish from the dock.
>
> I wish you all the best and you are in my prayers. Send my best wishes
> also to Dot.
>
> Rene
>
>
>
> On 07/21/2018 08:42 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail wrote:
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> Was taken to the Wound Center yesterday to see my foot doctor.
>
> I am not happy with he had to tell me. Not enough blood circulation to
> save the foot.
>
> The surgery will be done when my kidneys are stable enough for the
> surgery. I personally am not ready for this.
>
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Joyce

[Joyce M Westphal]

Enjoy your vacation.  You can fish the Provo anywhere you can  walk to it.
The lower part is all catch and release.  I drive over it every day going
to and from to work as it goes right by my facility.  Joyce

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Phxflytyer  wrote:

> TNX Joyce. I am now in Montana for a few days but plan to spend the night
> in Orem on the way back to Arizona. Saw a few nice spots to fish in Mt on
> the way back.
>
> I think I saw the park you are talking about on my way back out of Provo
> Canyon?
> Is there two spots to fish? One looked like a good sized park like area
> and the one just a little north of that, looked like there was a small
> water fall or a drop off?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Joyce M Westphal  wrote:
>
> You can go down Orem Center street to 300 East, turn left and go North
> until you hit Riverwoods Drive. You will be in front of the Riverwoods
> surgery center. Turn right there, go right  until you see the bridge over
> the Provo River. Park in any parking lot and give it a try. Watch out for
> the tree trunks on the south.  There are often big trout under the shadows
> of the bridge. Sometimes one is lucky, sometimes not. The Provo River is
> fishable its entire length. I say, give it another try if you have time.
> Joyce
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Phxflytyer  wrote:
>
>> Got up the canyon to Canyon Glen Park. Couldn’t find a decent place to
>> cast. But at lease I got to see the water. Thanks for the info Joyce.
>>
>> Is there some place else you fish?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Mesa, Az.
>>
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Joyce M Westphal  wrote:
>>
>> Go straight up Provo Canyon.  Take Center street to University Avenue,
>> turn left, stay in the right hand lane and you will have the canyon to
>> yourself. Be sure to get an out of state fishing license.   Have a great
>> time.  Sow bugs, nymphs, any dry seems to work. Joyce
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Phxflytyer  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am going to spend the night in Orem on June 14. Is there a good place
>>> to wet a line for a couple of hours?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>> Alan Di Somma
>>> Mesa, Az.
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [VFB] Joyce

[Joyce M Westphal]

You can go down Orem Center street to 300 East, turn left and go North
until you hit Riverwoods Drive. You will be in front of the Riverwoods
surgery center. Turn right there, go right  until you see the bridge over
the Provo River. Park in any parking lot and give it a try. Watch out for
the tree trunks on the south.  There are often big trout under the shadows
of the bridge. Sometimes one is lucky, sometimes not. The Provo River is
fishable its entire length. I say, give it another try if you have time.
Joyce

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Phxflytyer  wrote:

> Got up the canyon to Canyon Glen Park. Couldn’t find a decent place to
> cast. But at lease I got to see the water. Thanks for the info Joyce.
>
> Is there some place else you fish?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Joyce M Westphal  wrote:
>
> Go straight up Provo Canyon.  Take Center street to University Avenue,
> turn left, stay in the right hand lane and you will have the canyon to
> yourself. Be sure to get an out of state fishing license.   Have a great
> time.  Sow bugs, nymphs, any dry seems to work. Joyce
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Phxflytyer  wrote:
>
>>
>> I am going to spend the night in Orem on June 14. Is there a good place
>> to wet a line for a couple of hours?
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Mesa, Az.
>>
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>
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Re: [VFB] Joyce

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Go straight up Provo Canyon.  Take Center street to University Avenue, turn
left, stay in the right hand lane and you will have the canyon to yourself.
Be sure to get an out of state fishing license.   Have a great time.  Sow
bugs, nymphs, any dry seems to work. Joyce

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>
> I am going to spend the night in Orem on June 14. Is there a good place to
> wet a line for a couple of hours?
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
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Re: [VFB] PRogress from Don Ordes

[Joyce M Westphal]

Don, sounds to me that you are making amazing progress. Prayers and
thoughts of all the best for you.  I was so glad to see your email and hope
I will continue to hear updates on how you are doing. Glad your home sold
quickly and you are now in a great new  one. Keep working on regaining your
skills.

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:10 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
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> Good to hear from you.  Hope things continue to progress for you.
>
> Rick
>
> On ‎Friday‎, ‎May‎ ‎25‎, ‎2018‎ ‎01‎:‎08‎:‎41‎ ‎PM, DonO 
> wrote:
>
>
> To all my friends on vfb..  THANKS FOR ALL OFF YOUR PRAYERS AND WELL
> WISHES.
>
> it's me, well, a good part of me anyway.
> The stroke hit my right half (left side of brain) so lost all movement and
> feeling on right side of my body.
> also lost the vision on right side of both eyes.
> so I'm typing with left hand with a small arc of vision.  This is my 1st
> email work since stroke.
>
> I've been home two weeks now and am progressing with therapy and recovery
> very well according to therapists.
> Using my right hand for some things, but still have no feeling, which is
> weird.
> I am doing some walking therapy, but again no feeling.  Hope all feeling
> comes back with time.
>
> Still have appt. with eye doctor next week. Hope he can do something.
> Don't know about the numbness in my face, will have to check later- big
> fallout
> of that is drooling at times, and then the constant numbness..
>
> Had to sell the new home we just bought to get a single level.  All went
> amazingly fast and well. Will post new address soon.
>
> Can't tell you how much of a blessing it is to have a fantastic wife who
> stepped up to the plate as hit nothing but homers since that night.  My
> incredible sister came up from Mesa as has been an a incredible helper for
> both Cheryl and me.
>
> Alan DiSomma is due here Sunday and we will be discussing my fly business
> and what of mine to sell. Plus we'll discuss fate of video projects.
>
> All input is welcome.  Have no idea on what I'll recover after time, but I
> have a lot to get sold to simplify and cover meds.
>
> Well, at the limit of my endurance for now.  Took over an hour for this 5
> minute email.
>
> As you can imagine, I have a lot of recovery time on my hands, so reading
> emails from my friends would be much appreciated and great for my mental
> therapy.  Hope you are all having wonderful summers.
>
> Very Best Regards,
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Neville Gosling
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 12:05 PM
> To: VFB
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes
>
> This is a real blow after he was looking so good following loosing weight,
> but time heals and lets pray that he recovers as fully as possible.
> I have a friend in my fishing club that also suffered a stroke that was
> followed my more strokes and it came as a complete shock to everybody. He
> like Don is still in hospital.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> BC Canada
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2018, at 10:58 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail
>  wrote:
>
> In my prayers
> Arkansas Tony
> 
> On Tue, 5/1/18,   wrote:
>
> Subject: RE: [VFB] Don Ordes
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 12:47 PM
>
> Hello to everyone, this is his
> son, Donny.
>
> Thank you so
> much for all the kind well wishes and words. I was able to
> open Don's email and we read all of your messages to
> him, as he is unable to read much.  He asked me to thank
> everyone and to say hello.
>
> He is still recovering in the therapy unit of
> St. Al's hospital in Boise. When he had the stroke he
> lost the use of the right side of his body. So his arm and
> hand, leg, and even his vision on the right half of his body
> were all affected (he can see out of both eyes, but only
> from his nose to his left side). Unfortunately he is right
> handed, so using his left hand for everything is also
> difficult by itself.
>
> However, he is steadily making progress in his
> recovery and has regained the ability to move his limbs and
> use them to some extent. He still requires a great deal of
> assistance to get up and move, but the therapists are
> optimistic that he will continue to improve. Only time will
> tell how much capability he will recover. He is scheduled to
> be released from the hospital to go home this Thursday, but
> we will continue with having therapists come in to work with
> him to help with his rehab.
>
> Again, thank you all  for your kind words and
> support, I will continue to monitor his emails and forward
> your thoughts and questions to him.
>
> Thank you.
>
> DVO
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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> On Behalf Of Rene Zillmann
> Sent: Tuesday,
> May 1, 2018 8:58 AM
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes
>
> All,
>
> are there any updates on Don?
>
> KR
>
> Rene
>
>
> 

Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

[Joyce M Westphal]

thank you for the update.  Loved the bugger swap flies. Joyce

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Phxflytyer  wrote:

> I had a nice long conversation with Don Saturday evening.
> He was much more talkative  and his speech was much clearer. He is still
> is having an issue with his vision, but it has improved and will be seeing
> a specialist soon.
> He has not been able to read posts or answer them. He is still having some
> difficulty with the right side of his body but it is improving.
>
> I will be driving to Idaho to visit him in a few weeks. I will let you all
> know what happens.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

[Joyce M Westphal]

So glad for the update.  Bummer that he has to learn to use his hands to
tie again. I am hoping for a full recovery.  I know that it takes a good
deal of time for this to happen. He continues in my prayers. Joyce

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Neville Gosling 
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> This is a real blow after he was looking so good following loosing weight,
> but time heals and lets pray that he recovers as fully as possible.
> I have a friend in my fishing club that also suffered a stroke that was
> followed my more strokes and it came as a complete shock to everybody. He
> like Don is still in hospital.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> BC Canada
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2018, at 10:58 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> In my prayers
> Arkansas Tony
> 
> On Tue, 5/1/18,   wrote:
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> Subject: RE: [VFB] Don Ordes
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 12:47 PM
>
> Hello to everyone, this is his
> son, Donny.
>
> Thank you so
> much for all the kind well wishes and words. I was able to
> open Don's email and we read all of your messages to
> him, as he is unable to read much.  He asked me to thank
> everyone and to say hello.
>
> He is still recovering in the therapy unit of
> St. Al's hospital in Boise. When he had the stroke he
> lost the use of the right side of his body. So his arm and
> hand, leg, and even his vision on the right half of his body
> were all affected (he can see out of both eyes, but only
> from his nose to his left side). Unfortunately he is right
> handed, so using his left hand for everything is also
> difficult by itself.
>
> However, he is steadily making progress in his
> recovery and has regained the ability to move his limbs and
> use them to some extent. He still requires a great deal of
> assistance to get up and move, but the therapists are
> optimistic that he will continue to improve. Only time will
> tell how much capability he will recover. He is scheduled to
> be released from the hospital to go home this Thursday, but
> we will continue with having therapists come in to work with
> him to help with his rehab.
>
> Again, thank you all  for your kind words and
> support, I will continue to monitor his emails and forward
> your thoughts and questions to him.
>
> Thank you.
>
> DVO
>
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> All,
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> are there any updates on Don?
>
> KR
>
> Rene
>
>
> On 04/23/2018 03:44 AM, Phxflytyer wrote:
> > Fellow VFB’ers..
> >
> > About two weeks ago
> Don Ordes had a stroke.
> > He finished the
> Wasatch show and was preparing to go home on Sunday.
> > Sometime Saturday evening or Sunday
> morning he had a stroke.
> > Was in ECU for
> a week and his son came and drove him home.
> > He is going thru physical therapy now back
> in Idaho.
> >
> > It would
> be great if anyone could find the time to send him a get
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> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > Thank You,
> > Alan Di
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> > Mesa, Az.
> >
> > Some mistakes are just too much fun to
> make only once.
> >
> >
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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

[Joyce M Westphal]

need his email address.  The old one I had just returned a not.  Thanks
Joyce

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> So did I…Neville
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> On Apr 22, 2018, at 7:00 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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> Just did.
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Re: [VFB] Off topic

[Joyce M Westphal]

Wonderful.  You are a great couple.

On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Neville Gosling 
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> Congratulations Tony & Dot - 67 years is quite an achievement. Well Done!
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> Neville (Nev) Gosling
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> Dot and I celebrated out 67th wedding wedding anniversary yesterday,
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] bugger

[Joyce M Westphal]

Very nice. Should work very well.

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 2:44 PM, J Balmer  wrote:

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Re: [VFB] Charlie Spezio update

[Joyce M Westphal]

Oh so good to learn.  Prayers continue for  his progress and healing.

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> GREAT news  a.f.
>
> From Robert Spezio's Facebook page:
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> Robert Spezio
> 
>
> We went to the hospital yesterday morning before heading back home and got
> a big surprise. As we walked in he was up sitting on the side of his bed
> with his legs of the side by himself and seemed to understand most of what
> we were talking about; and I just called and talked to his nurse and she
> said he his doing the same today.  They did a wound treatment on his foot
> and the graft is looking great.  Thank you all for your thoughts and
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Re: [VFB] SPEZIO UPDATE

[Joyce M Westphal]

Wonderful. Prayers for complete recovery continue.
Joyce

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:08 PM, J Balmer  wrote:

> Beauty! Glad things are going better for him and the family.
>
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> J
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> Charlie Spezio (Tony's son) had another surgery today.  I don't know if it
> is his last or not.  His sister (Gina) posted the following on Facebook
> about an hour ago:
>
> Again, THANK YOU all for the prayers and positive thoughts. They are
> working! We were just informed that the surgeon was able to do the least
> complicated procedure of which he originally thought he was not going to be
> able to do. Thank God. The procedure was still a high-risk surgery, however
> recovery should be a little easier on Charlie and he is already finishing
> up (no 12 hour surgery!) The surgeon said that we should know in a week if
> he was able to save Charlie's lower leg and foot. So thankful for all of
> the love that our family has been receiving.
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Re: [VFB] Another note

[Joyce M Westphal]

So good to have this update. Prayers continue.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> Another facebook post from Bob Spezio:
>
> "I  just was in with Charlie. he is moving around and shook his head yes
> when I asked him if he know me. With the meds he is still in and out of it
> but he is answering yes and no questions with head movements and they are
> talking about moving him out of ICU today.  Thank you everyone for your
> thought and prayers. Please keep him in them.  It's just baby steps but we
> will take them"
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> In addition, please keep Tony & Dot in your prayers.
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Re: [VFB] Tony & Dot

[Joyce M Westphal]

I am so sorry.  Thanks for letting me know. Joyce

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 6:24 PM, ladyflytyer  wrote:

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Re: [VFB] Thanks for the thoughts and prayers

[Joyce M Westphal]

So glad to hear.  Glad you had them removed, however, as now they won't be
on your mind haggling you any longer.  Joyce

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> have removed. They turned out to be just benign growths, or a type of mole
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Re: [VFB] Substitute for Tiemco 2499SP-BL?

[Joyce M Westphal]

Must add, in my opinion, these Stealth hooks are a better hook all around.
They increase in hook length and depth as the hook size increases,
geometrically scientifically set up, and are the sharpest hooks I have ever
used, and I've used a lot of hooks.They are also the strongest hooks I have
ever used.  Check them out and read about them on the Stealth hook home
page.
I often tie the Nitro caddis with a greenish/brown core braid, a purple
glass bead for the bead and tiny starling feathers for the wing pads when I
am lazy and don't want to cut the sheeting wing pads. BTW, if you have a
set of cutters for small upright dry wings, you can use that wing cutter to
do the medallion sheeting wing pads..works really well and you can knock
out several dozen in very little time.

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I tie these on a Stealth C10 hook, 100 cost $25.99 so cost 25 cents
> apiece,  and also on Mustad caddis hooks, cheaper,  and find no difference
> in fishability or catching quality. I do crush the barbs.  You can find
> them here:
> http://www.stealth.fish/products/100packs/.  I think that the black hooks
> really do seem to work better on these Nitro Caddis when there is bright
> sunlight as the black hook eliminates the glare from the sun.  This is just
> my opinion.  I buy mine from Eddie Robinson's flyfishing shop in Orem Ut.
> The neat thing about these hooks, if you only want to purchase 25, is that
> you can get them in a great plastic box with a lift out hook holder that is
> great to simply take out and sit on the bench.  At any rate, check out the
> Stealth flyfishing hook page just for fun.
>
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone on this list know of a cheaper alternative, or similar hook,
>> to the Tiemco (TMC) 2499SP-BL?  I saw the "Nitro Caddis Pupae" on
>> www.intheriffle.com and would like to make a batch up, but I don't know
>> that a standard curved scud hook will do the trick or not.  the 2499SP-BL
>> is 3x heavy, 2x short, 3x wide, at least according to one site I found them
>> on... though it was in a foreign language so I don't know if I was reading
>> that correctly or not.  One seller on amazon said it is 2x heavy, 3x wide,
>> 2x short, so I may go with those specs.  Either way, it isn't exactly a
>> standard scud, or a rounded-out klinkhammer hook either.  A substitute
>> could have a hook barb, I can crush barbs like the best of them, that isn't
>> a problem, it doesn't have to be barbless if it saves a few bucks.  I just
>> can't pull the trigger to spend 12 bucks on 25 hooks for these, but maybe
>> it's just been so long since I've bought hooks that this is the going price
>> now... I've been fortunate to have stocked up on literal thousands of hooks
>> about a decade ago, and haven't had to buy hooks in ages... so the price of
>> a hook may have gone up from what I remember it being back then...
>>
>> Someone set me straight, if this is the going price of hooks these days,
>> but I'm a cheapskate looking for a cheaper price and thought hooks were
>> less than 48 cents US a piece.  I realize it was 10 or 11 years ago, but I
>> bought mine at a little under half that price.  Has prices escalated that
>> much in 10 years, or is it because of the special nature of the hook, or
>> something else I'm not thinking of?
>>
>> Thanks for any help you have, and tight wraps,
>> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Substitute for Tiemco 2499SP-BL?

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I tie these on a Stealth C10 hook, 100 cost $25.99 so cost 25 cents apiece,
 and also on Mustad caddis hooks, cheaper,  and find no difference in
fishability or catching quality. I do crush the barbs.  You can find them
here:
http://www.stealth.fish/products/100packs/.  I think that the black hooks
really do seem to work better on these Nitro Caddis when there is bright
sunlight as the black hook eliminates the glare from the sun.  This is just
my opinion.  I buy mine from Eddie Robinson's flyfishing shop in Orem Ut.
The neat thing about these hooks, if you only want to purchase 25, is that
you can get them in a great plastic box with a lift out hook holder that is
great to simply take out and sit on the bench.  At any rate, check out the
Stealth flyfishing hook page just for fun.

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Pete Gramp  wrote:

> Does anyone on this list know of a cheaper alternative, or similar hook,
> to the Tiemco (TMC) 2499SP-BL?  I saw the "Nitro Caddis Pupae" on
> www.intheriffle.com and would like to make a batch up, but I don't know
> that a standard curved scud hook will do the trick or not.  the 2499SP-BL
> is 3x heavy, 2x short, 3x wide, at least according to one site I found them
> on... though it was in a foreign language so I don't know if I was reading
> that correctly or not.  One seller on amazon said it is 2x heavy, 3x wide,
> 2x short, so I may go with those specs.  Either way, it isn't exactly a
> standard scud, or a rounded-out klinkhammer hook either.  A substitute
> could have a hook barb, I can crush barbs like the best of them, that isn't
> a problem, it doesn't have to be barbless if it saves a few bucks.  I just
> can't pull the trigger to spend 12 bucks on 25 hooks for these, but maybe
> it's just been so long since I've bought hooks that this is the going price
> now... I've been fortunate to have stocked up on literal thousands of hooks
> about a decade ago, and haven't had to buy hooks in ages... so the price of
> a hook may have gone up from what I remember it being back then...
>
> Someone set me straight, if this is the going price of hooks these days,
> but I'm a cheapskate looking for a cheaper price and thought hooks were
> less than 48 cents US a piece.  I realize it was 10 or 11 years ago, but I
> bought mine at a little under half that price.  Has prices escalated that
> much in 10 years, or is it because of the special nature of the hook, or
> something else I'm not thinking of?
>
> Thanks for any help you have, and tight wraps,
> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Big Fly

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That is wonderful flytying and great flies.  Thanks for sharing. Joyce

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> It is not as old as I am and not falling apart like me. LOL
> Tony
> 
> On Wed, 4/19/17, Phxflytyer  wrote:
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>  Subject: Re: [VFB] Big Fly
>  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 10:00 AM
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>  The fly looks almost as good as you do.
>
>
>
>
>  Sent from my iPad
>
>  Thank You,
>  Alan Di Somma
>  Phoenix, AZ.
>
>  Some mistakes are just too much fun to
>  make only once.
>
>
>
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>  > '“My Giant Fantasy Fly for my
>  Fantasy Giant Fish from Don Ordes - Fantasy Flies”
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Re: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today

[Joyce M Westphal]

Beautiful streamers arrived today. What exquisite tying.  Thanks to Peggy
and all who took part. Joyce

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> Yes I did, will get them posted before we head out.
>
> Peggy
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> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Jack Harford 
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>> did you say you have some pictures??
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Peggy Brenner 
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>>> there are 6 swappers getting a envelope with 2 dry flies, I missed them
>>> and had several packages so they went on their own.
>>>
>>> This was a nice swap!
>>>
>>> Thanks for taking part
>>>
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Re: [VFB] Intruducing Stella Jean Haywood

[Joyce M Westphal]

Beautiful grand daughter.. Joyce

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> Folks: My fifth grand child, the soo beautiful (as are
> all my grand kids LOL.. I know, I know, I’m prejudiced) Stella Jean Haywood
> was born at 2:01 yesterday at 6 pounds, 12 ounces, 19 inches, and most
> importantly, perfectly health so far. She is sooo beautiful. You can see
> that LONG, THICK dark brown curly hair in the pic. Sorry this pic is a
> little blurry as it was taken with a phone, but I have over 500 other pics
> of her (so far LOL) taken with my good camera. Going back to the hospital
> shortly and she and my daughter are supposed to come home tomorrow. Chuck
> (aka Paw Paw LOL)
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Re: [VFB] Test messdage

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These hospital visits must come to an end.  Bummer that you are on such
first name basis with the hospital staff. Wishing you a complete recovery.
joyce

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> Nurses know me by my first name.
> Arkansas Tony
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>  On 1/25/17 4:10 PM,
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>  > Back in the hospital, hot home today.
>  > Arkansas Tony
>  Dadgummit
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Re: [VFB] Chico's footprints.

[Joyce M Westphal]

How wonderful to have this wonderful remembrance of your dear Chico.  You
have a great vet. Joyce

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> We had to put two of ours down in a number of years, we passed on the
> third one. Just could not handle loosing another one.
>  Arkansas Tony
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> On Tue, 12/6/16, Chuck Alexander  wrote:
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>  Subject: [VFB] Chico's footprints.
>  To: "Chuck Alexander" , "Cheaper Living"
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>  Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 4:24 PM
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>  Folks: As many of you
>  know, we had to put our 15 yr old dog Chico to sleep about
>  10 days ago or so.
>  Well, yesterday, we got the footprints thing in the mail
>  shown in the attached
>  here. And they had all 20 or so employees from that Vets
>  office sign a
>  "condolences card" along with this plaster cast of
>  Chico's feet. Not many Vets
>  would go to this trouble and we appreciate it a LOT,
>  Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Lively legz

[Joyce M Westphal]

Great idea. Thanks Joyce

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Reuven Segal <beer...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was half asleep when I commented. I meant you can cut away the rolled
> silicon/rubber at the wrist of the glove and use it to form segmented
> bodies at whatever the desired thickness is.
> Easy to cut. I have blues, black, white, yellow, green.couldn't be
> cheaper or easier.
>
>
> On 5/12/2016 9:02 AM, Beer mit wrote:
>
> I use rubber and silicon gloves (cleaning or surgical). They have
> different thicknesses, colours, and are cheap. The other benefit is the
> rolled bit at the opening. If you buy it there so you are left with a
> rolled silicon 'rope', it wraps around the hook to give an awesome
> segmented body such as in a grub. Want it thinner? Just pull tighter.
>
> Reuven
>
> On Wednesday, 30 November 2016, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I like the way they look on stones and some nymphs.  Not so much on the
>> midges.  I might have to try these for some stoneflies.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> These Lively Legz are meant for nymphs, I believe, not hoppers, with all
>>> due respect.  Perhaps we're speaking of two different products / leg types?
>>>  http://livelylegz.com/collections/lively-legz shows what they look
>>> like.
>>> Respectfully,
>>> -Pete
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I find hoppers work the best in early fall, end of July, first of
>>>> August, and then fished right along the banks, never in the middle of the
>>>> stream for me. Joyce
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Let me know.  I am going to look for some sheets of silicon.  I have
>>>>> the foam sheets and now to get the cutters.  Have you fished hoppers much
>>>>> in Utah?  I have only had limited success.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I use the 2 mm foam sheets and mark them with Permapen to my liking,
>>>>>> usually with spots. I am going to experiment with the sheets you use for
>>>>>> the backs of the nymphs and also with the slick Baxter IV bag material.
>>>>>> This will take place after the Christmas fly boxes are finished..only 5
>>>>>> dozen more flies to go.  I will let  you know how the IV bag ones work
>>>>>> after I've tried it. The material of the bags is very similar to Thin 
>>>>>> Skin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joyce,
>>>>>>> What do you use as material?  Foam?  If Silicon which I like best
>>>>>>> where do you get the sheets?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Joyce M Westphal <
>>>>>>> joyce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These are great. If you wish to create your own, you can get leg
>>>>>>>> cutters that work extremely well here. http://riverroadcreation
>>>>>>>> s.com/HopperLegs.htm J
>>>>>>>> A complete set costs $39.95 and you can use whatever foam color,
>>>>>>>> touched up with Permapen you wish. Or, as Pete says, you can buy them 
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> Lively Legz pre-made. I agree with him, legs on my flies seem to add a 
>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>> more action in this form than simple knotted legs.
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the update. Joyce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anybody heard of these "Lively Legz" before?  it is a synthetic
>>>>>>>>> product kind of like a silicone, similar to the legs that

Re: [VFB] Lively legz

[Joyce M Westphal]

I find hoppers work the best in early fall, end of July, first of August,
and then fished right along the banks, never in the middle of the stream
for me. Joyce

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me know.  I am going to look for some sheets of silicon.  I have the
> foam sheets and now to get the cutters.  Have you fished hoppers much in
> Utah?  I have only had limited success.
>
> Mike
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I use the 2 mm foam sheets and mark them with Permapen to my liking,
>> usually with spots. I am going to experiment with the sheets you use for
>> the backs of the nymphs and also with the slick Baxter IV bag material.
>> This will take place after the Christmas fly boxes are finished..only 5
>> dozen more flies to go.  I will let  you know how the IV bag ones work
>> after I've tried it. The material of the bags is very similar to Thin Skin.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joyce,
>>> What do you use as material?  Foam?  If Silicon which I like best where
>>> do you get the sheets?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> These are great. If you wish to create your own, you can get leg
>>>> cutters that work extremely well here. http://riverroadcreation
>>>> s.com/HopperLegs.htm J
>>>> A complete set costs $39.95 and you can use whatever foam color,
>>>> touched up with Permapen you wish. Or, as Pete says, you can buy them from
>>>> Lively Legz pre-made. I agree with him, legs on my flies seem to add a bit
>>>> more action in this form than simple knotted legs.
>>>> Thanks for the update. Joyce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anybody heard of these "Lively Legz" before?  it is a synthetic
>>>>> product kind of like a silicone, similar to the legs that J:Son puts out 
>>>>> as
>>>>> nymph legs, but (strictly in my opinion, and not to knock J:Son) I
>>>>> personally find them easier to work with, and for me where I'm located
>>>>> they're cheaper per fly than J:Son.  Plus, being from Pennsylvania, USA, I
>>>>> have to support folks from my own state haha.  Seriously though, no
>>>>> affiliation to them, save for being a ridiculously happy customer, I
>>>>> absolutely love these things, and I find the purple flake color to have
>>>>> increased my fish catching rates, when nymphing.  Maybe it is just my 
>>>>> added
>>>>> confidence in fishing these, I'll give you that, but it seems to have had 
>>>>> a
>>>>> positive impact.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone wants to try one or two for tying, or if anyone wants a fly
>>>>> tied by me (I'm not a professional, but I'll do my best), just send an
>>>>> email off-list.  I won't promise it'll be tomorrow that I get to tying 
>>>>> them
>>>>> up for you, honestly, but it will be soon, and I think you'll like the
>>>>> results.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, not meant as an ad for them, and I have no affiliation with
>>>>> them.  Just want to let folks see how awesome these things are.  They are 
>>>>> a
>>>>> game changer for my nymphs, and I now tie my nymphs with these legs almost
>>>>> exclusively.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope I didn't break any list rules by the offer, or by raving about
>>>>> the product,
>>>>> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Lively legz

[Joyce M Westphal]

I use the 2 mm foam sheets and mark them with Permapen to my liking,
usually with spots. I am going to experiment with the sheets you use for
the backs of the nymphs and also with the slick Baxter IV bag material.
This will take place after the Christmas fly boxes are finished..only 5
dozen more flies to go.  I will let  you know how the IV bag ones work
after I've tried it. The material of the bags is very similar to Thin Skin.

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Joyce,
> What do you use as material?  Foam?  If Silicon which I like best where do
> you get the sheets?
>
> Mike
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> These are great. If you wish to create your own, you can get leg cutters
>> that work extremely well here. http://riverroadcreation
>> s.com/HopperLegs.htm J
>> A complete set costs $39.95 and you can use whatever foam color, touched
>> up with Permapen you wish. Or, as Pete says, you can buy them from Lively
>> Legz pre-made. I agree with him, legs on my flies seem to add a bit more
>> action in this form than simple knotted legs.
>> Thanks for the update. Joyce
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody heard of these "Lively Legz" before?  it is a synthetic product
>>> kind of like a silicone, similar to the legs that J:Son puts out as nymph
>>> legs, but (strictly in my opinion, and not to knock J:Son) I personally
>>> find them easier to work with, and for me where I'm located they're cheaper
>>> per fly than J:Son.  Plus, being from Pennsylvania, USA, I have to support
>>> folks from my own state haha.  Seriously though, no affiliation to them,
>>> save for being a ridiculously happy customer, I absolutely love these
>>> things, and I find the purple flake color to have increased my fish
>>> catching rates, when nymphing.  Maybe it is just my added confidence in
>>> fishing these, I'll give you that, but it seems to have had a positive
>>> impact.
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to try one or two for tying, or if anyone wants a fly
>>> tied by me (I'm not a professional, but I'll do my best), just send an
>>> email off-list.  I won't promise it'll be tomorrow that I get to tying them
>>> up for you, honestly, but it will be soon, and I think you'll like the
>>> results.
>>>
>>> Again, not meant as an ad for them, and I have no affiliation with
>>> them.  Just want to let folks see how awesome these things are.  They are a
>>> game changer for my nymphs, and I now tie my nymphs with these legs almost
>>> exclusively.
>>>
>>> Hope I didn't break any list rules by the offer, or by raving about the
>>> product,
>>> -Pete
>>>
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Re: [VFB] Lively legz

[Joyce M Westphal]

These are great. If you wish to create your own, you can get leg cutters
that work extremely well here. http://riverroadcreations.com/HopperLegs.htm
J
A complete set costs $39.95 and you can use whatever foam color, touched up
with Permapen you wish. Or, as Pete says, you can buy them from Lively Legz
pre-made. I agree with him, legs on my flies seem to add a bit more action
in this form than simple knotted legs.
Thanks for the update. Joyce


On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Pete Gramp  wrote:

> Anybody heard of these "Lively Legz" before?  it is a synthetic product
> kind of like a silicone, similar to the legs that J:Son puts out as nymph
> legs, but (strictly in my opinion, and not to knock J:Son) I personally
> find them easier to work with, and for me where I'm located they're cheaper
> per fly than J:Son.  Plus, being from Pennsylvania, USA, I have to support
> folks from my own state haha.  Seriously though, no affiliation to them,
> save for being a ridiculously happy customer, I absolutely love these
> things, and I find the purple flake color to have increased my fish
> catching rates, when nymphing.  Maybe it is just my added confidence in
> fishing these, I'll give you that, but it seems to have had a positive
> impact.
>
> If anyone wants to try one or two for tying, or if anyone wants a fly tied
> by me (I'm not a professional, but I'll do my best), just send an email
> off-list.  I won't promise it'll be tomorrow that I get to tying them up
> for you, honestly, but it will be soon, and I think you'll like the results.
>
> Again, not meant as an ad for them, and I have no affiliation with them.
> Just want to let folks see how awesome these things are.  They are a game
> changer for my nymphs, and I now tie my nymphs with these legs almost
> exclusively.
>
> Hope I didn't break any list rules by the offer, or by raving about the
> product,
> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Had to put one of our dogs down today.

[Joyce M Westphal]

So sorry for your loss, but you did the right thing for your faithful
friend. Glad you didn't put him through more suffering. I hope  you will be
comforted by your good memories. I am convinced that our beloved animals
are awaiting us when we, too, have passed. Joyce

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

> Folks: First off, I hope everybody has a Happy Thanksgiving and remembers
> to be thankful for the things we have whether it’s our health, a roof over
> our heads or whatever.
>
> That being said, we had to put our dog Chico (see attached photo) down
> today. He had herniated his bladder and needed a VERY dangerous, and VERY
> expensive ($2500 minimum and could be up to $5,000 after they got in there
> to see what they were really dealing with)  that we just didn’t just have
> surgery to  ATTEMPT to fix it. What made if more dangerous was that no vet
> around here had ever even seen this particular problem, and they sais that
> at 15+yrs old, it would be a 50/50 shot at him even waking up from surgery.
> So anyway, he had had it for a while now, but e could still urinate
> properly and wasn’t in any real pain as the hernia would pop out and then
> go back in after he’s go to the bathroom. But yesterday evening, we let the
> dogs out to go to the bathroom when he came in the hernia was still
> sticking out and would not go back in. He also had stopped eating and/or
> drinking anything by the time we got him to the Vet with a 24 hour ER
> service, and they recommended that at his age and the given prognosis, the
> best thing was to put him out of  his misery.
>
> For any pet lovers here, you know what a hard decision it was to do that,
> but we’d rather that than to see him in pain and moaning and groaning and
> it would not heal itself. He had been my fishing buddy since he was born
> back in 2001. He LOVED to go out fishing and especially in the boat (again,
> see the photo), but soon as we’d leave the dock in 5 minutes he’s be so
> excited by getting to go fishing only to lay on the cool aluminum bottom
> of the boat and sleep till we got through fishing LOL... Just the work
> fishing like I said, sent him into a fit. He’d go outside and jump into the
> boat, which was almost 4ft off the ground when it was on the trailer. All
> our other dogs could take it or leave it as far as fishing goes, but Chico
> went berserk.
>
> Then, I didn’t get to do much fishing this yr as my back and knee has been
> really been acting up, but I went bank fishing at a friends lake just this
> last week and something told me to take Chico with me. I did and he loved
> it of course, even without the boat. I’m sure gonna miss  the old boy cause
> he always let me catch the most fish LOL.. We lost his Momma Peanut back on
> April 17, 2014 at the age of 15 as well (April 17th is my birthday, so that
> kinda put a damper on that birthday, but Peanut was in a lot of pain as
> well, so it was also good that she was no longer in pain and now neither is
> Chico. Sorry for writing a book, but he was a part of the family. He was
> actually my son Daniel’s dog, but he lives in an apt. that won’t let him
> have pets so Chico lived here. We buried him out back just a little bit ago
> beside his Momma Peanut. Thanks for listening.  Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Thanksgiving.

[Joyce M Westphal]

I am counting blessings, including having fishing friends like those here.
May you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Joye

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Jack Harford 
wrote:

> May your Thanksgivings be filled with family, friends, peace and love.
>
> God Bless,
> Jack
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>> Have a great day tomorrow.  Enjoy those you can be with.
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Re: [VFB] Streamer swap 10/20 UPDATE

[Joyce M Westphal]

Count me in. I'd rather have done dry flies, but as that is full, I will do
a streamer. Don't know which one it will be. Joyce

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Peggy Brenner 
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> Let's also have a streamer swap, open pattern of tyers choice, flies due
> February 15, 2017
>
> 1. Peggy Brenner Yellow Jane Craig
> 2  Don Ordes
> 3  Wayne Blake-Hedges
> 4  Jack Harford
> 5  Michael Bliss
> 6  Bob Hendry
> 7  Rene Zillmann
> 8  J Balmer
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Re: [VFB] re: Whiting hackle bad colors

[Joyce M Westphal]

I am thinking that these are specialty colors from Lakeland and I will for
sure not be buying these colors from them again. I have gotten these colors
before with great results. But, I shall look at feather emporium as well.
I did email Nigel, the man who runs the company, and as soon as Tuesday
rolls around, these will be returned pronto to him. Perhaps it isn't worth
the cost of return, but I am not willing to have my precious space taken up
with hackle I will never use. The feathers themselves were good quality, it
was the crazy colors that were so bad.

On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Wes Wada <w...@wadaworks.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What puzzles me is that the Whiting Farms web site doesn't list those
> colors you noted.  Unless they are marketing them under different color
> names, it gives me the impression that the colors were dyed by the UK
> company on Whiting stock, so it is likely Lakeland Fly Tying's error.
>
> I have been using FeatherEmporium.com for small feather purchases and have
> been very pleased with what I have received.  Their bargain bin is, well,
> full of bargains.
>
>
> Wes Wada
> Bend, Oregon USA
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 9:12 AM, ashley strutt <galeforce1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joyce,
>>
>> It might also be due to the company that you bought them off. A friend of
>> mine ordered from them last year and asked for specific colours of hackle.
>> What he got was way of colour and when he contacted them the person who
>> runs the company was what can only be described has nasty so I won't deal
>> with them. Personally I also like to only buy hackle I can see and examine
>> my self.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2016, 4:59 p.m. Joyce M Westphal, <joyce...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> thanks so much.  I loved Denny's hackle but can't remember the fellow
>>> who bought him out. As I need colors, I just tried Collins hackle.  The
>>> terribly dyed Whiting hackle will be in the mail back to the UK as soon as
>>> I can send it Tuesday.  This color debaucle was really off-putting for me
>>> on Whiting hackle.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I used to like Denny Conrad's hackle, not sure if the company he sold
>>>> to is doing the same quality - just haven't looked into it, honestly.  I
>>>> recently got two capes and two saddles from Collins Hackle farms, grade 3
>>>> but ties 10 to 18 for capes and 12 to 16s for saddle, the whole lot of it,
>>>> all 4 items, were 60 bucks (plus whatever trivial amount postage was).  A
>>>> note, though, he doesn't wash the feathers.  He claims it retains the oils,
>>>> which is good, true, but it also doesn't clean off the, well pardon my
>>>> language but, chicken umm "waste".  I think that's the most politically
>>>> correct way to word it?  Excellent, beautiful colors, high barb count,
>>>> sturdy yet thin stemmed, some of the best hackle I've worked with
>>>> honestly.  Can't praise his hackle enough.
>>>> When I went to order, I called him, spoke to him personally, had all
>>>> intentions of buying a grade 1, he said don't waste your money get 2 grade
>>>> 3's, they'll tie the sizes I want in the same quality, I just won't get 20s
>>>> and smaller.  He helped me select the color, asked what look I wanted for
>>>> the flies, etc, gave me some background on the hackle itself - very
>>>> knowledgeable guy, willing to share but isn't cocky or shoving info down
>>>> your throat or a "used car salesman" type.  Honest guy, wanting to please
>>>> his customer.  I couldn't praise him more, and will be back as soon as I
>>>> save up (admittedly will be a while) for another cape-and-free-saddle 
>>>> combo.
>>>> Just my 2 cents worth, I'm sure there are plenty of other fine hackle
>>>> suppliers out there but Collins is my new personal favorite.
>>>> -Pete
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your reply.  I will no longer buy any hackle I can't hold
>>>>> in my hand and see with my own eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 8:25 AM, J Balmer <jbal...@betadigm.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can’t answer that question, but because of a couple issues in the
>>>>>> past (& the fact that I only tie for me,

Re: [VFB] re: Whiting hackle bad colors

[Joyce M Westphal]

thanks so much.  I loved Denny's hackle but can't remember the fellow who
bought him out. As I need colors, I just tried Collins hackle.  The
terribly dyed Whiting hackle will be in the mail back to the UK as soon as
I can send it Tuesday.  This color debaucle was really off-putting for me
on Whiting hackle.

On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I used to like Denny Conrad's hackle, not sure if the company he sold to
> is doing the same quality - just haven't looked into it, honestly.  I
> recently got two capes and two saddles from Collins Hackle farms, grade 3
> but ties 10 to 18 for capes and 12 to 16s for saddle, the whole lot of it,
> all 4 items, were 60 bucks (plus whatever trivial amount postage was).  A
> note, though, he doesn't wash the feathers.  He claims it retains the oils,
> which is good, true, but it also doesn't clean off the, well pardon my
> language but, chicken umm "waste".  I think that's the most politically
> correct way to word it?  Excellent, beautiful colors, high barb count,
> sturdy yet thin stemmed, some of the best hackle I've worked with
> honestly.  Can't praise his hackle enough.
> When I went to order, I called him, spoke to him personally, had all
> intentions of buying a grade 1, he said don't waste your money get 2 grade
> 3's, they'll tie the sizes I want in the same quality, I just won't get 20s
> and smaller.  He helped me select the color, asked what look I wanted for
> the flies, etc, gave me some background on the hackle itself - very
> knowledgeable guy, willing to share but isn't cocky or shoving info down
> your throat or a "used car salesman" type.  Honest guy, wanting to please
> his customer.  I couldn't praise him more, and will be back as soon as I
> save up (admittedly will be a while) for another cape-and-free-saddle combo.
> Just my 2 cents worth, I'm sure there are plenty of other fine hackle
> suppliers out there but Collins is my new personal favorite.
> -Pete
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your reply.  I will no longer buy any hackle I can't hold in
>> my hand and see with my own eyes.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 8:25 AM, J Balmer <jbal...@betadigm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can’t answer that question, but because of a couple issues in the past
>>> (& the fact that I only tie for me, two or three friends & the occasional
>>> swap) I only buy what I can hold in my hand or from people I truly trust.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Behalf Of *Joyce M Westphal
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2016 8:14 AM
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* [VFB] re: Whiting hackle bad colors
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just got an order of Whiting rooster saddles from Lakeland Flytying in
>>> the UK>  These were to be black/claret dyed, fiery brown and lake olive. I
>>> was amazed at how bad the colors were. The black claret has no claret, just
>>> straight purple on the black. The fiery brown has no brown, rather a
>>> red/orange color, and the lake olive is yellow gold, no green in the mix. I
>>> have compared this hackle color with the same hackle colors that I  had  on
>>> thiss colored hackle from Whiting before, This dye job must have been done
>>> by someone who is color blind.  I am wondering, does Whiting do the dying
>>> or is this bad color job done by Lakeland flytying? I would appreciate any
>>> input at all. This has really put me off on Whiting dyed rooster saddles.
>>> Joyce
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Re: [VFB] re: Whiting hackle bad colors

[Joyce M Westphal]

Thanks for your reply.  I will no longer buy any hackle I can't hold in my
hand and see with my own eyes.

On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 8:25 AM, J Balmer <jbal...@betadigm.com> wrote:

> I can’t answer that question, but because of a couple issues in the past
> (& the fact that I only tie for me, two or three friends & the occasional
> swap) I only buy what I can hold in my hand or from people I truly trust.
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Joyce M Westphal
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> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [VFB] re: Whiting hackle bad colors
>
>
>
> I just got an order of Whiting rooster saddles from Lakeland Flytying in
> the UK>  These were to be black/claret dyed, fiery brown and lake olive. I
> was amazed at how bad the colors were. The black claret has no claret, just
> straight purple on the black. The fiery brown has no brown, rather a
> red/orange color, and the lake olive is yellow gold, no green in the mix. I
> have compared this hackle color with the same hackle colors that I  had  on
> thiss colored hackle from Whiting before, This dye job must have been done
> by someone who is color blind.  I am wondering, does Whiting do the dying
> or is this bad color job done by Lakeland flytying? I would appreciate any
> input at all. This has really put me off on Whiting dyed rooster saddles.
> Joyce
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[VFB] re: Whiting hackle bad colors

[Joyce M Westphal]

I just got an order of Whiting rooster saddles from Lakeland Flytying in
the UK>  These were to be black/claret dyed, fiery brown and lake olive. I
was amazed at how bad the colors were. The black claret has no claret, just
straight purple on the black. The fiery brown has no brown, rather a
red/orange color, and the lake olive is yellow gold, no green in the mix. I
have compared this hackle color with the same hackle colors that I  had  on
thiss colored hackle from Whiting before, This dye job must have been done
by someone who is color blind.  I am wondering, does Whiting do the dying
or is this bad color job done by Lakeland flytying? I would appreciate any
input at all. This has really put me off on Whiting dyed rooster saddles.
Joyce

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Re: [VFB] Burgundy Thread

[Joyce M Westphal]

I hope it works as well for you as it does for me. There is also Danville's
wine, but I don't really like Danville's thread.  Pete, if you send me your
name and address, and I find a spool of UTC at my Sportsman's Warehouse, I
can ship it to you.  I have to go in later today and I'll see if they have
some. It goes quickly as wine is the "new color" so often it is not in
stock. I expect it is also available on the web. Joyce

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll check out the UTC, sounds perfect.  I haven't tried it yet.  I have
> to be honest, most of the reason I shy away from tying salmon flies is that
> my rough hands tear the silk to shredded frayed messes.  I think I'll try
> the UTC but stay clear of the silk thread - just my personal preference,
> not that it is a bad suggestion in any means, I'm sure it would be perfect,
> but with my sandpaper mitts, and knowing what silk thread costs
> *typically*, I'd prefer to not even try it.  Just my preference, no
> offense intended.
> Thanks for the UTC suggestion, I'm going to pick up a spool and try it!
> -Pete
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Pete, have you tried UTC ultra in 70 denier in wine? It is awesome IMHO,
>> lies flat and makes a wonderful body, comes in 70 and 140 and 210 denier. I
>> buy it at the local fly shop.  You might also like silk which comes in
>> color 312 and can be found at Superior Threads (St. George, UT) and
>> available online.  It makes a great silk thread body.  Check these out.
>> Ultra costs about 2.00 a spool but has lots of thread, I believe 200 yards,
>> on a spool. Good luck. These are my favorites. Joyce
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:00 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been looking for a Burgundy thread that is *either* 70 denier *or* lies
>>> flat with minimal bulk.  I typically use Uni 8/0 or Veevus, if that helps
>>> any, but I'm not loyal to any one brand over another.  Cheaper the better,
>>> yes even though we're only talking about a few bucks a spool, but I'd
>>> prefer tying thread to sewing thread... Can somebody point me towards
>>> something in that color range?  More of a maroon-burgundy than
>>> wine-burgundy.  (Danville has a wine, but that's too purple for what I'm
>>> seeking).
>>>
>>> Alternatively, anyone know of a marker (make & color) that would color
>>> white uni or veevus to that color range?
>>>
>>> Thanks guys,
>>> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Burgundy Thread

[Joyce M Westphal]

Pete, have you tried UTC ultra in 70 denier in wine? It is awesome IMHO,
lies flat and makes a wonderful body, comes in 70 and 140 and 210 denier. I
buy it at the local fly shop.  You might also like silk which comes in
color 312 and can be found at Superior Threads (St. George, UT) and
available online.  It makes a great silk thread body.  Check these out.
Ultra costs about 2.00 a spool but has lots of thread, I believe 200 yards,
on a spool. Good luck. These are my favorites. Joyce

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:00 AM, Pete Gramp  wrote:

> I've been looking for a Burgundy thread that is *either* 70 denier *or* lies
> flat with minimal bulk.  I typically use Uni 8/0 or Veevus, if that helps
> any, but I'm not loyal to any one brand over another.  Cheaper the better,
> yes even though we're only talking about a few bucks a spool, but I'd
> prefer tying thread to sewing thread... Can somebody point me towards
> something in that color range?  More of a maroon-burgundy than
> wine-burgundy.  (Danville has a wine, but that's too purple for what I'm
> seeking).
>
> Alternatively, anyone know of a marker (make & color) that would color
> white uni or veevus to that color range?
>
> Thanks guys,
> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Suggestions for PFD?

[Joyce M Westphal]

check out http://www.cabelas.com.  They may have exactly what you want and
they have good quality. My PFD (since I don't swim) is a CO2 one, but that
would not be appropriate for you. Joyce

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:39 AM, Pete Gramp  wrote:

> So here's the deal.  I have epilepsy, have had roughly 0 (good days) to 6
> (obviously bad days) seizures a day for the past countless months, and the
> neurologist says the only way he'll let me fish is from shore, and even
> then, with a "good" PFD (personal flotation device) and with another person
> present.  I could always ignore the doc, but I'm not the type to risk
> that.  Kinda stinks, especially since I'm a "big boned" and 6 foot 6 inch
> tall guy... finding a PFD my size has been difficult.  Anyone have
> suggestions for a "good" PFD on the cheap, preferably that doesn't restrict
> casting, but cheap comes first, for a US size 4XL?
> I get it, I'm big... no I don't play basketball, nor mini golf. But I do
> fly fish. :)
>
> Any suggestions on PFDs welcome,
> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Nor Vise help

[Joyce M Westphal]

You will conquer and love it, given time. Just don't be afraid to play with
the system. further questions, email me at my home address. Joyce

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:30 PM, 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail <
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> Thanks Joyce, lots of great tips!
>
> sounds like it takes a little while to get a working skill set for the Nor
> vise system.
>
> Wayne
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> Some hints: as to the bobbin, be sure that you wrap the thread around the
> one leg of the bobbin and then through the spigot. It will not work
> correctly if this is not done.  As you pull on the thread, it should give
> back pressure as you pull it out. If it doesn't, simply take the spool out
> of the legs (put a hackle plier on the end so you don't have to rethread
> )turn the spool around and put it back in the legs of the bobbin. Be sure
> not to use metal bobbin threader as that will nick and make rough the
> inside of your bobbin spigot. Instead, go to your nearest Walmart or
> similar store and in the dental section you will see some blue dental floss
> threaders, they look like a loop with about a 1.5 inch double end sticking
> out of it. When you get that home, take a BIC or similar lighter, run that
> straight end quickly through the fire so that it will make a very tiny
> ball. That smooths the ends of that dental threader so it will be very
> soft. This trick was taught to me by Faruk Ekich. Works great. His is the
> other bobbin that I use and love as well.
>
>
> I use my cordless drill to wrap the bobbins. I put a tiny, 1/4 inch piece
> of Scotch tape on the end of the thread  and  hook it to the bobbin to hold
> the thread in place when I start to wind, then put the winder end in my
> electric drill. I put the thread in a tall  relatively heavy cup, such as a
> tall coffee mug/ This keeps the thread from jumping all over. Then I start
> the drill and after the first wind is done, I use my left hand to put a bit
> of pressure on the thread as I wind so more will fit on and I have better
> bobbin tension.
>
> When I touch dub, I often put a touch of wax next to the eye of the hook,
> if the dubbing is very thick or recalcitrant. If not, I pull out a few
> hairs of the dubbing, holding the ball in my right hand (I'm right handed,
> so reverse if this is not true of you). I touch those few hairs to the
> thread and pinch tight to the thread with my right hand while spinning the
> vise a turn or two.  You can even catch the hairs between the thread and
> the side of the place just behind the eye of the hook.  The hairs catch and
> you can then  spin out the rest of the dubbing, thick or thin as you
> desire.
>
> I have, but don't use a dubbing block. With this vise I do a dubbing loop
> right on the hook. To do this, you make the loop for the dubbing at the
> eye,, or back of the hook.  Then, holding the loop in your right hand, but
> below the hook, just spin the vise holding the loop  or dubbing hook in
> your hand with the winding thread in line with that same dubbing loop, thus
> making the loop as thick or thin as you want. I usually load about 1/2 inch
> of dubbing with some flash right in that dubbing, close the leg, hold the
> end of the loop with the tying thread alongside it  and spin away.
>
> I hate to waste thread, so when finishing the fly, I don't pull the thread
> out until it stops. Instead of hanging the bobbin on the post button, I
> simply put a hackle pliers on the end of the thread before I cut it off
> from the fly.  Saves lots of thread.
>
> Further questions, just email me. I don't think I could tie with a regular
> vise any more. Using this vise, know that it is a learning situation. Each
> time you tie a fly, think, how can I make use of the rotary part of the
> vise. You will be amazed at how even your ribbing can be, or not be if you
> like it wider at the thorax. You will have thread control that is very
> smooth. But again, remember, 100 times is considered the learning curve of
> any new experience.  Hope this helps. Joyce
>
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>> Hi All;
>>
>> Received and installed standard jaws on my Nor vise, big difference.
>> Studied Norm's videos but, I'm still struggling to use it.
>>
>> A couple questions:
>>
>> How do you figure out when the bobbin is set up correctly?
>>
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Re: [VFB] Nor Vise help

[Joyce M Westphal]

Some hints: as to the bobbin, be sure that you wrap the thread around the
one leg of the bobbin and then through the spigot. It will not work
correctly if this is not done.  As you pull on the thread, it should give
back pressure as you pull it out. If it doesn't, simply take the spool out
of the legs (put a hackle plier on the end so you don't have to rethread
)turn the spool around and put it back in the legs of the bobbin. Be sure
not to use metal bobbin threader as that will nick and make rough the
inside of your bobbin spigot. Instead, go to your nearest Walmart or
similar store and in the dental section you will see some blue dental floss
threaders, they look like a loop with about a 1.5 inch double end sticking
out of it. When you get that home, take a BIC or similar lighter, run that
straight end quickly through the fire so that it will make a very tiny
ball. That smooths the ends of that dental threader so it will be very
soft. This trick was taught to me by Faruk Ekich. Works great. His is the
other bobbin that I use and love as well.


I use my cordless drill to wrap the bobbins. I put a tiny, 1/4 inch piece
of Scotch tape on the end of the thread  and  hook it to the bobbin to hold
the thread in place when I start to wind, then put the winder end in my
electric drill. I put the thread in a tall  relatively heavy cup, such as a
tall coffee mug/ This keeps the thread from jumping all over. Then I start
the drill and after the first wind is done, I use my left hand to put a bit
of pressure on the thread as I wind so more will fit on and I have better
bobbin tension.

When I touch dub, I often put a touch of wax next to the eye of the hook,
if the dubbing is very thick or recalcitrant. If not, I pull out a few
hairs of the dubbing, holding the ball in my right hand (I'm right handed,
so reverse if this is not true of you). I touch those few hairs to the
thread and pinch tight to the thread with my right hand while spinning the
vise a turn or two.  You can even catch the hairs between the thread and
the side of the place just behind the eye of the hook.  The hairs catch and
you can then  spin out the rest of the dubbing, thick or thin as you
desire.

I have, but don't use a dubbing block. With this vise I do a dubbing loop
right on the hook. To do this, you make the loop for the dubbing at the
eye,, or back of the hook.  Then, holding the loop in your right hand, but
below the hook, just spin the vise holding the loop  or dubbing hook in
your hand with the winding thread in line with that same dubbing loop, thus
making the loop as thick or thin as you want. I usually load about 1/2 inch
of dubbing with some flash right in that dubbing, close the leg, hold the
end of the loop with the tying thread alongside it  and spin away.

I hate to waste thread, so when finishing the fly, I don't pull the thread
out until it stops. Instead of hanging the bobbin on the post button, I
simply put a hackle pliers on the end of the thread before I cut it off
from the fly.  Saves lots of thread.

Further questions, just email me. I don't think I could tie with a regular
vise any more. Using this vise, know that it is a learning situation. Each
time you tie a fly, think, how can I make use of the rotary part of the
vise. You will be amazed at how even your ribbing can be, or not be if you
like it wider at the thorax. You will have thread control that is very
smooth. But again, remember, 100 times is considered the learning curve of
any new experience.  Hope this helps. Joyce

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:22 AM, 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail <
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> Hi All;
>
> Received and installed standard jaws on my Nor vise, big difference.
> Studied Norm's videos but, I'm still struggling to use it.
>
> A couple questions:
>
> How do you figure out when the bobbin is set up correctly?
>
> Tried using the vise to load bobbins, seemed very difficult, cordless
> drill works ok.
>
> When touch dubbing, how long does it take for the thread to grab the
> dubbing?
>
> Any suggestions on a pattern to master some techniques?
>
> Anyone use the dubbing block, if so opinions?
>
> Thanks in advance;
>
> Wayneb
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Re: [VFB] RE:Nor Vise

[Joyce M Westphal]

It is a good deal.  There is a saying, that it takes 100 times of a new
experience to have it conquered.. Start with simple flies, like gold ribbed
hare's ears, Czech nymphs, and then work on to salt water flies that you
usually tie. Every fly, think, how can I make this vise work for me and how
do I use the rotary fashion best. Be sure to look,at Norm's CD and go
online to his web page and view the flies tied there. I was comfortable
with this vise after an order for 100 flies and honestly think I could no
longer tie with a regular vise. When I go to tying classes and forums, I
find that dubbing is a breeze, ribbing is fast and even and I watch others
struggle, even those who've tied a lot, to get these two things done well.
Enjoy. Joyce

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 3:33 PM, 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail <
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> Oh, by the way, purchased the saltwater jaw nor vise with three Nor
> bobbins and six spools $215.00. I think it was a pretty good deal, even
> purchasing the standard jaws separately, I still got a better/cheaper deal
> the the basic setup on line.
>
> Wayne
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> * Sent: * Fri, May 13, 2016 8:52:20 PM
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> Call Norm at: 360-636-2525 and order the small straight jaws.
>
> You only need the  big jaws if you're tying on huge shark hooks
>
> af
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> On May 13, 2016, at 2:48 PM, 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail <
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> Hi All;
>
> Received my Nor vise yesterday, bolted it to my tying bench, loaded a
> couple spools with thread and preceded to give it a go.
> It definitely takes some getting used to. Mine came with the saltwater
> jaws a bit of a pia to get used to and hard to get anything less than a
> size 6 streamer hook to hold(standard jaws on the way). Also a bit of a
> learning curve for the Nor bobbins.
>
> Any suggestions on what to tie with the larger jaws?
>
> Thanks in advance;
>
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Re: [VFB] RE:Norvise jaws

[Joyce M Westphal]

I, too, like the older bobbins and so far they have no problems. Yes, I
simply put the hackle pliers on the end of the thread before I cut it off
the fly. Saves thread and is so second nature now that I do it without
thinking. Joyce

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:00 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
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> Speaking of bobbins. I have two of the old bobbins that I like better than
> the newer ones. They will stop and hold the thread in place. The newer ones
> seem to not have that stop and the thread will roll back all the way back
> to the spool. Easy fix is to just wrap the thread end on the button on the
> post to keep it from pulling back on the spool. After you do it a few times
> it will come naturally.
> I think Joyce uses a hackle pliers to keep the thread from  rolling back
> on the spool..
> I asked Norm about this and he said the old springs were breaking and they
> modified the bobbins to eliminate the problem.
> I prefer the older bobbins.
> Tony.
>
>
> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 10:31 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
> I do have the smaller set, but I am a lazy one, so found that I really
> didn't need them unless I tied 24s, and as I can't see to tie them on,
> there is no need to tie them. I do 22's with no problem at all. I can say
> this, Norm is fantastic in his service. I have had to replace the O ring
> and he sent me  the correct ones at no charge, has refurbished my vise when
> I broke it (my fault, not that of the vise) and when I have a question or
> need new bobbins, he is quick to send them. When I tie for show, I find
> that people want to buy (and sometimes steal) my bobbins.  When you do tie
> for groups, I suggest that you keep your bobbin in your hot little hand at
> all times or within your sight. Joyce
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Joyce is much better tier than me but I have found the midge jaws
> invaluable when tying small flies.
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have the standard set of jaws, never needed the smaller or bigger set
> and I tie 22-24s and big 2/0s for salmon. These jaws hold everything well.
> Joyce
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> > If you contact Norm direct, tell him you know me.
> > Tony
> Careful Wayne,
> Norm might charge you double if you do that. 
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Re: [VFB] RE:Norvise jaws

[Joyce M Westphal]

I do have the smaller set, but I am a lazy one, so found that I really
didn't need them unless I tied 24s, and as I can't see to tie them on,
there is no need to tie them. I do 22's with no problem at all. I can say
this, Norm is fantastic in his service. I have had to replace the O ring
and he sent me  the correct ones at no charge, has refurbished my vise when
I broke it (my fault, not that of the vise) and when I have a question or
need new bobbins, he is quick to send them. When I tie for show, I find
that people want to buy (and sometimes steal) my bobbins.  When you do tie
for groups, I suggest that you keep your bobbin in your hot little hand at
all times or within your sight. Joyce

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> Joyce is much better tier than me but I have found the midge jaws
> invaluable when tying small flies.
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have the standard set of jaws, never needed the smaller or bigger set
>> and I tie 22-24s and big 2/0s for salmon. These jaws hold everything well.
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>>
>>> > If you contact Norm direct, tell him you know me.
>>> > Tony
>>> Careful Wayne,
>>> Norm might charge you double if you do that. 
>>> Al
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Re: [VFB] RE:Norvise jaws

[Joyce M Westphal]

I have the standard set of jaws, never needed the smaller or bigger set and
I tie 22-24s and big 2/0s for salmon. These jaws hold everything well. Joyce

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Re: [VFB] RE:Nor vise models

[Joyce M Westphal]

Mine is an older version.  The newer one has a little handle  on the left
side so you can spin it faster. I don't ever use that.  Mine must be at
least 12 years old, has a lifetime warranty, and  I've sent it back to Norm
for an update once, all at no charge.  Be sure you get either the Norlander
or the Ekich automatic bobbin. As previously stated, I use both, but find
that for traveling I use the Ekich the most as one doesn't have to take the
time to wind the bobbin with different types of thread. At home I use the
Norland and Ekich about equally. Check out the prices of a new vs. the used
vise and see if the older one is a better buy. Joyce

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> Hi All;
>
> Someone in another group is offering g up an older version Nor vise for
> sale. Anyone know what the difference is with an older version versus the
> current model?
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Re: [VFB] New fly for the Keys trip

[Joyce M Westphal]

I think your fly will be a winner. Nicely tied. Joyce

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:

> Thanks, Alan,
>
> It’s definitely not a departure fly from standard techniques, and it does
> look like it would be a good crawfish pattern.
> I just wanted something inexpensive that I could toss up in the mangroves
> and not worry to much about losing it.
>
> DonO
>
>
> *From:* Alan Di Somma 
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2016 11:45 AM
> *To:* VFB List 
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] New fly for the Keys trip
>
>
> good looking fly Don.
>
> Looks a lot like the crawdads that I tie.
>
>
> *phxflytyer*
> *Phoenix,AZ*
>
>
>
> *"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the
> Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American
> Indian."Henry Ford*
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Don Ordes  wrote:
>
> Pretty much all packed and chomping on the bit about going to the Keys.
> Lots to do around here, but it’ll have to wait until we return.
>
> Tied up a new fly for the trip- a fl-pink Mantis Shrimp:
>
> 
>
> I like the way it came out, so I’m doing a green & blue one, but with a
> longer body.
> What other colors would you ‘Florida Salties’ suggest?
>
> Also have a lot of tarpon flies packed. The season is on, and I have a
> guide booked for at least two days.
> Last of my ‘Big Four’ saltwater catches- sailfish, marlin, 50#+ dorado,
> and tarpon.
> There are others, and I’ll take them as they come.
>
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Re: [VFB] Thinking of buying myself something to clear me up

[Joyce M Westphal]

Check out the videos here.  I love my Norvise. Joyce
https://norvise.com/videos/


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> Hi DonO;
>
> Something I'd like to have but don't necessarily need.
> Seriously considering  a Norvise.  It's something I promised myself I'd
> get some day.
> Thanks everyone  for all the ideas,  and if any Nor vise owners can let me
> know all the great things they can and do use thiers for, please let me
> know.
>
> Wayneb
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Don Ordes
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> Wayneb,
>
> What do you consider a luxury?
> Luxury can mean expensive, or over-the-budget, or more than what you
> really need- or all three.
>
> What’s worth it to get the most use out of. What about a nice tying
> station?  Or a nice camera for photos?
>
> DonO
>
>
> *From:* 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail
> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 5:54 PM
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> Hi All;
>
> I should begin tying again in a couple days and was thinking of buying
> some type of tying luxury to cheer myself up.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance;
>
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Re: [VFB] Thinking of buying myself something to clear me up

[Joyce M Westphal]

You don't need the dubbing kit. All you need to do the very same thing is
two wire tooth kitty brushing brushes available in any pet store. Use them
like wool cards against each other, wire teeth to wire teeth, with the bits
of yarn and sparkle in between, and for about $10.00 you have your dubbing
kit in hand. I use this all the time. Works great.
  The Regal Revolution is a great vice, but it doesn't spin as the Norvise
vise does. I have both, but find the Norvise superior. Check out both. Jyce


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> Dinner for your wife, as she has put up with you.
>
> Rick
>
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> Hi All;
> I should begin tying again in a couple days and was thinking of buying
> some type of tying luxury to cheer myself up.
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks in advance;
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Re: [VFB] Thinking of buying myself something to clear me up

[Joyce M Westphal]

Look at the Faruk Ekich bobbin.  I like it and the Norbobbin, each having
advantages. Norbobbin is automatic but you do have to remember to put a
clamp on the thread or hang it or the thread sucks in. The Ekich bobbin has
the big advantage of accepting spools just as they come from the store, no
rewinding, but the disadvantage of not being automatic so when the spring
gets tight, you must quickly lift the thread and put the spool back on.
But, I love them both, especially the $70.00 one of a black nylon type
material as it will mould and fit to your hand. Joyce


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> Buy a NorviceYou will love it.
>
> Buck.
> Buck Hall Celina, OH
> e.hal...@yahoo.com
> Live simply. Love generously.
> Care deeply. Speak kindly.
> Leave the rest to God.
>
>
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> Hi All;
> I should begin tying again in a couple days and was thinking of buying
> some type of tying luxury to cheer myself up.
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks in advance;
> Wayneb
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Re: [VFB] update

[Joyce M Westphal]

I am so sorry to hear this.  A set back for sure. Prayers for a quick
recovery. Joyce

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> Well, not real good situation,  infection was all the way to my insert and
> doc had to remove it. Looks like  I'll be starting over again.
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Re: [VFB] Thread Colors

[Joyce M Westphal]

olive dun,  red, black, yellow, purple and flr. orange. Joyce

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> I use Black, Florescent Orange, Olive, Chartreuse, Brown and Red.
> Arkansas Tony,
>
>
> On Monday, April 25, 2016 3:07 PM, J Balmer  wrote:
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> I use mono most often & white w/ markers next. I have one bobbin that
> usually has red floss, but I’ve used other colored floss as well. If I HAD
> to use colored thread, olive, black, white & red, & maybe fire orange to
> tie Tony’s Chili PeppersJ
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Michael Drew
> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2016 11:57 AM
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> *Subject:* [VFB] Thread Colors
>
> I just have a quick question. If you could only have 6 colors of thread to
> tie with, doesn't matter what the denier or ought is, and there were no
> Sharpies available, what 6 colors would you choose?
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Re: [VFB] Re: Tony the birthday boy

[Joyce M Westphal]

Have a wonderful birthday..older is better than dead I think. Joyce

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Scott Bearden 
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> Happy birthday Tony!
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> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:08 AM 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
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>> Thanks Wayne, I am just getting older every day.
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:32 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges <
>> wayneb22...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Tony;
>> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
>> Hope it's a good one.
>> Wayne
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Re: [VFB] Leasing a truck/Off Topic

[Joyce M Westphal]

If it sounds to be too good to be true, it is. My Sister and hubby did a
lease once, NEVER again. You still have to pay off the vehicle at the end
of the lease, it does not just become yours automatically if you do not do
that. You still l have to insure it, and at the end of the lease, if you
don't buy it, you don't own it. But, for some people, not me. they really
like it.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Donna Crowell  wrote:

> I lease once , never again.
>
>   Donna...
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 4:28 PM, J Balmer  wrote:
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>> The advantages to leasing are typically the down payment is less & if you
>> do it as a business you can write more of it off on taxes. You can also
>> roll the least on a new vehicle  when the least period is up. You still
>> need to buy insurance, & @ the end of the lease you can buy the vehicle for
>>  a reduced rate, you don’t get to just  keep it.
>>
>>
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2016 3:02 PM
>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Leasing a truck/Off Topic
>>
>>
>>
>> Just passing this on, Son in law and daughter leased a Mini Van, says he
>> will never do it again. They bought one last year instead of leasing again.
>> I can' tell you the reason for this.
>>
>> Arkansas Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 15, 2016 2:44 PM, Chuck Alexander <
>> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Folks: This is off topic, but does anybody here lease their vehicles vs.
>> buying them?? If so, what pros/cons should I know??? We’ve been thinking of
>> going that route because there is a place here that leases new cars for
>> $199 a month, (count in all the “hidden” fees, taxes etc) then after “X”
>> months, it’s yours to keep. Pros I see are that it includes ALL maintenance
>> including tires, oil changes, brakes etc which can add up big time when
>> you’re having to pay for all that anyway. Plus, the price includes
>> insurance as well I think. Surely I do NOT know all the facts as we’ve
>> never leased a car, but I’m getting too old to work on cars, and my
>> knuckles will at least thank me LOL..
>>
>>
>>
>> The only con I can think of are are that you’re paying for something that
>> is not yours (yet, because for it to be “lease to own, you’d probably have
>> to pay 8 yr or so on it). I had a father in law, and had a cpl cousins that
>> ONLY lease cars, because every three yrs they turn them in for a new model.
>> They say it’s the only way to go because if you pay cash, or take out a
>> loan for a used vehicle, it could be a lemon that you are stuck with paying
>> who knows how much in upkeep, so you may be paying $500-600 a month for the
>> payment for 3-4 yrs, plus maintenance since it would be my luck that a kid
>> had it first and hot-rodded it and NEVER changed the oil etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, this is a HUGE financial leap for us as we have never had a brand
>> new car/truck in any shape/form, or fashion, and I know we’d be basically
>> “paying forever”, but on used vehicles, like I said, you do that anyways,
>> and without the benefit of knowing the car’s background. Sure, you can run
>> a “car fax” to see if it’s ever been wrecked, but that don’t tell you if
>> Jeff Gordon was the previous owner, or if he EVER changed the oil, brakes,
>> fluids, etc ect. Thanks, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] TEST Please

[Joyce M Westphal]

Oh Jimmy, what a hard diagnosis. However, there are medications that can
help to reduce symptoms.  Glad you have a good doctor. I shall pray for you
as well. Joyce

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> Have form of Parkinsons. <<<
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Re: [VFB] Compact portable bobbin rest

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Very creative, cheap, and readily available. Joyce

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Re: [VFB] Just curious - Looking for a Fly Tyer article

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Scanned and sent, but I am not happy with the way my scanner did on the
last page, so perhaps someone else could scan and send that page to Pete.
Let me know, Pete, if you were able to get them OK> JOyce

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Phxflytyer  wrote:

> Pete;
>
> I have the issue you are looking for.
>
> I do not have a scanner, but I would send it to you if you send it back?
> Perhaps I could see if I can use a copier for the article you are looking
> for.
>
> I am glad you are asking for this because I see how much better the older
> mags were. This is a great issue with a lot of substance and very diverse.
> I wish the editors would take a look at some of these older issues and get
> the hint that we tyer's want more for our money. We want more articles and
> less advertising. I don't care that they are making more money on ads and
> not as much from the cost of the mag itself. Sorry state of affairs that
> money is the deciding reason for the mag?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
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> On Nov 10, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Neville Gosling  wrote:
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> I don’t have it but what is featured on page 24? Just curious 邏!
>
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> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
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> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Pete Gramp  wrote:
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> Does anyone happen to have a copy of the Summer 1997 Fly Tyer Magazine
> issue, who would be willing to send me a copy of the article starting on
> page 24 please?  Tried my local library but they only go back to 2004...
> same as my personal collection of them.  Can't bring myself to eBay it for
> 10 bucks...
> Thanks!
> -Pete
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Re: Woodturning; was: [VFB] OFF TOPIC in the fishing groups Question???

[Joyce M Westphal]

Knitting bowls are also a good bet.  Check out Etsy for some really nice
turned ones. Joyce

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Henk Verhaar 
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> On woodturning
>
> On 05/11/15 00:10, Chuck Alexander wrote:
>
> Folks: I recently got a new wood lathe from my wife around the first part
> of May and I’m trying to get up an inventory (most things are selling as
> fast as I can make them, which is a good thing) in order to open myself an
> Etsy store to sell things on. So farm, bowls have been the biggest seller,
> but I want to make some Christmas ornaments (see attached pics), wooden
> eggs (see pics), goblets (see pic), and lastly, my question on this email
> is how many here still use an old fashioned rolling pin for making biscuits
> etc.
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> I’m attaching a pic and would like to know a cpl things about the rolling
> pins #1, would you use it??”
>
> Yes. In fact, I have a number of rolling pins that I made myself.
> Including an ornamental huge pin made out of figured maple. I have a french
> pin in maple and a long straight pin (no handles) in lacewood, as well as a
> couple smaller ones. The only one that gets used on a regular basis is the
> long straight one (about 40 cm long, 5 cm diameter); used primarily for
> rolling pie dough. I also have a very long, thin straight one (2.5 cm / 1
> inch diameter) for rolling pasta in brazilian rosewood.
>
>
> and #2 would you buy one
>
>
> Well, obviously, no, since I make my own, but if I didn't have a lathe,
> yes I would certainly buy one or more rolling pins. But then, I do a fair
> amount of baking, and a whole lot of cooking...
>
> if the price were right (probably $20 each
>
> Actually, I think a good rolling pin, made out of nice wood, could fetch
> more than that.
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> , but they last forever, for the ones made of common woods like oak, poplar
>
> Oak, given its porous nature, would be a bad choice for a rolling pin, I
> would think, as would poplar (soft, porous, too light). I would favour the
> standards like maple, beech, or walnut.
>
> Another nice little thingie that you can make on the lathe, that would be
> perfect to sell at an 'introductory' price level is a 'spurtle' (google
> that ;-) ), preferably with the traditional stylized Scottish thistlehead
> on top. A few burned rings at the 'grip' section would give 'em character.
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Re: [VFB] Re: Flies l am working on with pics

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Awesome flies.  I love them all. Thanks for sharing. Joyce

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Re: [VFB] Test 2

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loud and clear in Utah. Joyce

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Re: [VFB] Phone call

[Joyce M Westphal]

How neat that is. One of the neatest things about the flyfishing/tying joy
is that of old friends. Joyce

On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:55 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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 I had a surprise call this morning from Fishy Fullum. We talked for about
 an hour.
 He is having another book published.
 We talked about old times at the fly fishing shows and about the bamboo
 rod I made for him.
 He plans on stopping by the house when he is back here in March. I wish I
 could take him to my favorite fishing spot at Tucker shoals but I am in no
 shape to wade.
 We have been friends for about 25 years.
 It made my rainy dreary morning.
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Re: [VFB] JFTD

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Loved your joke Allan. Joyce

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 While waiting for Jimmy D to get his pump primed, here's a joke for
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  Forwarded Message  Subject: Wrapping Paper Cowboy

 This is so bad I almost didn't send it





 A tall weather-worn cowboy walked into the saloon and ordered a beer. The
 regulars quietly observed the drifter through half-closed eyelids. No one
 spoke, but they all noticed that the stranger's hat was made of brown
 wrapping paper.

 Less obvious was the fact that his shirt and vest were also made of paper.
 As were his chaps, pants, and even his boots, including the paper spurs.
 Truth be told, even the saddle, blanket and bridle on his horse were made
 entirely of paper.

 Of course he was soon arrested for rustling.

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 Greenwood, IN

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Re: [VFB] Ruby River Fiberglass Fly Rods

[Joyce M Westphal]

One thing is for sure, there will be no purchases from this site for me as
long as Niclas is blacklisted and as long as his fly is not acknowledged.
Joyce

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
wrote:

 If you look closely at this advertisement, you will see that CGO aka Green
 River Caddis AND Hatches Magazine are both linked with the Fly Tying
 Forum.  Look at the addresses in blue and the name and address at the
 bottom. I strongly suspect that The Fly Tying Forum is a commercial
 operation linked to both Green River Caddis AND Hatches Magazine.

 The arbitrary deletion of Niclas Runarsson’s long time access to the Fly
 Tying Forum by the arbitrator with no warning is simply bad business and
 poor etiquette. Nick was simply complaining that someone had stolen a photo
 from his personal website and posted it to the forum with no prior
 permission or acknowledgement. This was a photo that Niclas had created of
 a named fly that he had tied.

 I am tempted to send a copy of this message to w...@hatchesmagazine.com
 (see bottom of CGO advert) but will leave that for Niclas to decide.

 Neville (Nev) Gosling

 Anytime there’s money to be made, corruption isn’t far behind.


 Begin forwarded message:

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 *Subject: **[Shaw Suspected Junk Email] Ruby River Fiberglass Fly Rods*
 *Date: *July 9, 2015 at 1:05:48 PM PDT
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Re: [VFB] Village Wheen fire,

[Joyce M Westphal]

Ho

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 8:47 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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 The Village Wheel where we had get togethers for Sowbug and the FFF
 Conclave had a fire day before yesterday. Burned out the inside with some
 damage that can be seen from the outside.
 Looks like we will have to find another place to meet and have dinner if
 it is not rebuilt before Sowbug next year. Arkansas Tony

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Re: [VFB] Village Wheen fire,

[Joyce M Westphal]

How sad to learn of this fire.  I am hoping they will be able to quickly
rebuild. Joyce

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 Ho

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 it is not rebuilt before Sowbug next year. Arkansas Tony

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Re: [VFB] Update on Allan Fish (subject was update on Jimmy Moore)

[Joyce M Westphal]

What a wonderful, though painful, experience.  I am jealous! Joyce

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  On 6/9/15 5:10 PM, Bob Hendry wrote:

 Oh no you don't!  Now that you've publicly mentioned an injured right arm,
 ya gotta tell us all . . .

 Okay Bob.  Told you it'd take a bit before I got a round tuit.  But here
 it is:

   (A-) FISH-ing can be hazardous to your health.


 We’ve all heard of folks falling in and getting hurt, even drowning, or
 maybe falling and spraining an ankle on the way to/from a river.  I may
 have come upon a new peril.  I slightly pulled a muscle in my right arm
 several months ago.  It would get sore if I did anything heavy but
 otherwise was just sore enough to be a minor nuisance.  About six weeks
 go, one of my buddies (yes, Jimmy, I DO have some friends!  g)  invited
 me to go to see if the white bass run had started yet on the Whitewater
 River upstream from Brookville Lake in Eastern Indiana.


 I'll make an even longer story short:  We found the fish.  My chartreuse
 over white Clouser with extra heavy eyes did the trick (I'm too cheap to
 buy a sinking line!).


 I finally had to quit after landing fifteen of those feisty fish because
 my right arm hurt so badly.  I should have quit after catching six, but
 how can you quit when you're catching one every other cast?  That was six
 weeks ago.  Unfortunately, it still hurts that almost that badly.  I can’t 
 cast
 at all.  In fact, I can't hardly lift anything much heavier than a cup of
 coffee.


 I'm seeing my family doc later this week and hopefully a good shot of
 cortisone will help it out.

  Am I whining or complaining?  No way.  I’m bragging!  It was worth it!
 Al

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Re: [VFB] vfb working ??

[Joyce M Westphal]

Rain here as well, but we are so glad as we are so behind in the amount of
water we need just to get through the summer. Joyce

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 Thanks, Nev.  All it's done for last two weeks here is RAIN !!

 JIM

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