Hi All;
When I first started tying flies, they were for Bass and I remeber Lefty Kreh
saying that he always included red in his Bass patterns somewhere, he felt it
served as a trigger for the Bass. If it's good enough for Lefty I figured it
was good enough for me. I've always used red somewher
They seem to, but I always assumed a fish saw black and white, same as
cats. But we had a cat that liked rad marabou.
Or do I pick the fly with the hot spot days when the fish are more
available?
Peggy
On 8/21/2011 9:39 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote:
Hi Peggy;
Do the hot spots seem to help
I think there must be something about red because when fishing for Stripped
Bass I found that red eyed flies were more productive than yellow eyed. Even
the same pattern so little bits of red must form a trigger.
Ashley
On 22 Aug 2011 11:22, "Peggy Brenner" wrote:
> They seem to, but I always ass
If you note the Florescent red collar on the WRD and the Fire Orange collar on
the Chili Pepper that is why I think those flies are as effect as they are.
Tony
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Just Curious. Looking to hit the bench with a purpose.
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I've never seen through a fish's eye, but..
they must be able to see color, or else what is the genetic advantage of
having so much color on their bodies, especially at spawning time. It
must be a cue to other members of their species, ie the ladies, that
they are available.
Jack
Austin
On
Hi, Chappy,
Anything new on the rope-dub front? No swaps open that I know of.
How about a juice-bug swap?
Materials:
Ice-dub,
clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
clear head cement,
UV Wader repair
Pearl strips
Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)
DonO
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Hi folks, was thinking of all the activity over the weekend on the list,
refreshing to say the least.
Was thinking this morning of hosting a swap, in honor of the IOFF and the
creative juices of the members.
How about a nymph/ scud swap based on the thread of the juice bugs and blood
spot scud
Can you buy jelly rope from any retail stores?
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Hi, Chappy,
Anythi
I get mine at Hobby Lobby in the beading section.
Jimi
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Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
If fish only saw black and white we would not need all the colors we buy and
would have missed out on the old victorian salmon flies.
Gary S
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scud
There's a bunch of on-line shops that carry it.
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From: "J Balmer"
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Any open swaps right now?
Can you buy jelly rope from any retail stores?
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Analogy: Sound doesn't exist (only vibrations do),- it's all in the ear,
nerves, and conversion programming in the brain = sound.
Like the old saying, 'If a tree falls in the forest, and there's no one to
hear it, dies it make a sound?'
Color doesn't exist outside our heads either, just like so
Hi DonO;
Well said!
I've come to think it's more about contrasting shades than any particular
color. I just happen to buy in to the red effect for Largmouth bass. I would
not be suprised at all if I were to photograph flies in black and white and
determine which other colors would give the
Regardless of how fish interpret what we consider color, in 50 years of
fishing (particularly the last 30) I have been in situations where varioius
species of fish seem to prefer a "color" when offered the same exact lure or
fly in different ones. Large & smallmouth bass & trout appearing to be the
As to scent, I've used garlic spray and a couple of others w/ little
discernable difference. Anise seems to work, probably because it masks human
sweat & oils, & I've used a couple of soaps to wash my hands before handling
lures. There may be a taste diffence that would give a half a sec of so to
a
'be the fish... be the fish...'
keep repeating that.
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Subject: RE: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people
As to scent, I've used garlic spray and a couple of others w/ lit
I prefer "catch the fish, ,catch the fish":)
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'be the fish... be the fish...
On scent, to me there are two aspects to start with- before the take and after
the take.
A soft plastic bait will feel real, but does it 'taste' real? Will they keep it
long enough to set the hook?
A hard bait doesn't feel real, so taste doesn't matter- hook-up is on the
strike- they can't spi
Hobby Lobby
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Don Ordes wrote:
>There's a bunch of on-line shops that carry it.
>
>
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>Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:58 AM
>Subject: RE: [VFB] Any open swaps right now?
>
>
>> Can you buy jelly rope from any ret
Hi DonO;
>From my bait chunkin days, I found that crawfish and baitfish scents seemed to
>increase my catch rate, especially with hard baits and older style soft baits
>before the Senkos and the salt/scent added soft plastics became the norm. Any
>oil including vegetable oil worked to keep w
Fish see colors. Clark and Goddard did a nice book about how fish see.
I ty my blue parachute beetle with a red head. and this version catches
more fish.
I tried it some years ago to use it without the red. On one evening I
had no hits, changed the fly to a fly with the red head, first cast,
Hi Jimi,
Yes, I'm interested with the normal questionwhens the due date?
Ashley
Hi folks, was thinking of all the activity over the weekend on the
list, refreshing to say the least.
Was thinking this morning of hosting a swap, in honor of the IOFF and
the creative juices of the members.
Ho
I'd be interested
Jerry McKaughan
P.O. Box 85
Pottsville, AR 72858
www.caddisflyfishers.org
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From: Jimi AKA Desert Eagle
Subject: [VFB] A Swap?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 1:50 PM
Hi folks, was thinking
Using Don O's suggestion, how about a;
How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
Materials:
Ice-dub,
clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
clear head cement,
UV Wader repair
Pearl strips
Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)
Maybe veriations of Hair ear or copper johns using Dons
I say...YAY
Do we have to use all or some of the materials?
Ashley
Using Don O's suggestion, how about a;
How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
Materials:
Ice-dub,
clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
clear head cement,
UV Wader repair
Pearl strips
Mono thread
Melted mono
I would be interested. How many in the swap?
Eric Worm
602 Maplewood Drive
Reed City, MI 49677
"And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with
style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of
penultimate drama starring the dog you lo
On 8/22/2011 10:41 AM, J Balmer wrote:
Regardless of how fish interpret what we consider color, in 50 years of
fishing (particularly the last 30) I have been in situations where varioius
species of fish seem to prefer a "color" when offered the same exact lure or
fly in different ones. Large& sm
Jimi
Are you doing the meistering? I will do this and see what I can come up
with - a little of those vinyl fumes and I should have my own Veronica.
Mike
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle wrote:
> Using Don O's suggestion, how about a;
>
> How about a juice-bug nymph swap
How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.
* indicates required material to be in the fly
# indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available
Materials:
*Ice-dub,
#clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
I have some Loon flexible head cement that evidently did not seal correctly
when closed. Does anyone know what type of thinning agent I could try to
re-constitute it to semi liquid form?
Jimi
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I'm in.
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Subject: [VFB] A new Swap
Using Don O's suggestion, how about a;
How about a juice-bug nym
Gills around here aren't as finicky, but they do seem to prefer a few
colors. Crappie are not only finicky about color, but also speed, depth &
direction.
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I'm in... Alien scuds
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From: "Jimi AKA Desert Eagle"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:27 PM
Subject: [VFB] Its Official A new Swap, IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up
How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of
If it dried out or even coagulated, forget it and buy a new one.
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From: "Jimi AKA Desert Eagle"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:54 PM
Subject: [VFB] Thining Loon Flexible head cement?
I have some Loon flexible head cement that evidently did not seal correctl
To those joining the juice-bug/scud swap, there is a tutorial here:
http://www.fantasyflies.com/juice_bug_tutorial.php
The UV top-coat is not shown, as that is a later design aspect.
This technique can be changed dozens of different ways to make different
effects,
and they aren't hard at all to
Has anyone see a fish eat a boatman?
I've heard they are fish food..yet some people claim fish won't eat them.
I've never noticed a fish eating one, but maybe I haven't watched
closely enough.
There is a boatman tutorial recently posted on the */_Fly Tying Forum.
Rodger
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I will join.looks cool. I will tie the KY Jelly. Oh but i am not from
Kentucky so I will tie the NH jelly.
Chappy.
On Aug 22, 6:43 pm, "Don Ordes" wrote:
> To those joining the juice-bug/scud swap, there is a tutorial here:
>
> http://www.fantasyflies.com/juice_bug_tutorial.php
>
> The UV top-c
What is the KY Jelly fly? or the NH Jelly?
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From: "Chappy"
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:58 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: A new Swap- Jimi D. Some hints
I will join.looks cool. I will tie the KY Jelly. Oh but i am not from
Kentucky so I will tie the NH
I saw Jaws. He ate a boatman- a few of them in fact. Chewed them right up and
down the hatch.
I'll strap a Ken doll to a 14/0 hook and call it a boatman special. I'll have
a little yellow drum for a strike indicator on the end of a leader. LOL
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From: Rodg
I'm interested..
Walter
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Subject: [VFB] A new Swap
Using Don O's suggestion, how about a;
How about
count me in
Jerry McKaughan
P.0. Box 85
Pottsville, AR 72858
www.caddisflyfishers.org
--- On Mon, 8/22/11, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle wrote:
From: Jimi AKA Desert Eagle
Subject: [VFB] A new Swap
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 8:19 PM
Using Don O's suggestion, how ab
I'l take part, this should be fun!
Peggy B
On 8/22/2011 5:27 PM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle wrote:
How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.
* indicates required material to be in the fly
# indicates an item that may be
This is what I have so far,
Jimi
How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.
* indicates required material to be in the fly
# indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available
Materials:
*Ice-dub,
I can't say I've ever seen fish eat them but, any pond I've ever seen with fish
in it doesn't seem to have any boatmen in it and boatmen can be found in my
area in bodies of water that don't have fish.
There sure are a lot of western trout patterns for boatmen though.
Wayneb
--- On Mon, 8/22
I'm in. I will try some variation of a grass shrimp, as we have a few
in the rivers here. I'll know more after I gather the materials and try
a few.
Jack Lehman
Austin
On 8/22/2011 5:27 PM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle wrote:
How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrim
Jimi,
Don't see my name. Did you get me?
Mike
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle wrote:
>
> How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
>
> Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar
> aquatic
> insects.
>
> * indicates required material to be in the fly
>
Rodger,
There is a book "Fish Food" whose author lives in the Tahoe area and he has
a pattern for them and says that the wife's tale that they make fish sick
hence they are not taken is false. He catches lots of fish on them.
Mike
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Rodger Oleson wrote:
> **
>
This is what I have so far,
Jimi
How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.
* indicates required material to be in the fly
# indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available
Materials:
*Ice-dub,
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