[videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... the situation is resolved.

2007-12-24 Thread ractalfece
Well, the good news is I worked out a compromise. The bad news is the video I just spent 10+ hours working on will never be posted. She wants me to sever all connection to her from the video, remove her name, the metatags and the youtube response connection so that nobody watching her stuff

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
Thank you, Jason, for contributing something that was well-timed, direct in its intention and in context. And my tongue is not in my cheek when I say that. Videoblogging is fantastic and presents awe-inspiring opportunities, but it is by no means a road to Damascus, a Utopia or a space free of

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread missbhavens1969
Jesus. This is getting so very, very ridiculous and out of hand. What are you? On dope? How many of us came out and said 'stop it' when this latest blog post came out beating up on Zadi's show? ? Are you freaking kidding me? Very few! You know why? Because very few people saw it as Steve

[videoblogging] BALLS

2007-12-24 Thread Lan Bui
All I have to say is BALLS! -Lan www.LanBui.com

[videoblogging] Re: Why i must leave Blip

2007-12-24 Thread Paul Knight
With regards to all non-French people who use Blip.tv. Loiez Deniel lives in Rural France near to Claremont Feront, if you google map it, you will see that he lives slap bang in the middle of france, about oh lets see at least 3-4 hours away from Paris. He has complain bitterly about

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Why i must leave Blip

2007-12-24 Thread Loiez D.
Thx Paul to help me to be understood ;-) In France we have the best offer DSL in the world and the cheapest. With the growth of the video the issue in 2008 will be who will pay the bandwidth? There was recently a very important meeting of ISPs in Paris on the subject. We are now doing videos

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Watkins
Oh its the naked conversations man, who has proven time and time again that he cant handle naked conversations. Leadership being beaten upon? What leadership? I thought this place worked quite well because the only leaders are those leading any particular conversation at one moment in time.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... the situation is resolved.

2007-12-24 Thread Markus Sandy
so much for living in the now :) On Dec 24, 2007, at 12:20 AM, ractalfece wrote: Otherwise, she will hunt me down, her team is researching my website server right now to have it shut down. She will ask youtube to delete my entire account. She says she will begin a two year legal battle.

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Cheryl
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get where this is coming from. I'm outta here. You discuss amongst yourselves. If you think it's perfect, and I'm wrong, that's cool. The consistent thing I notice about Scoble is that he is a surface guy.

[videoblogging] Re: Why i must leave Blip

2007-12-24 Thread s_scoggins
Hello, This is my first post here. Just to say that I saw Loiez's site for the first time yesterday, following a link on Robert Croma's site. The video's loaded virtually instantly and all worked perfectly. I'm in Upstate New York (Stone Ridge). It's wonderful work. Sam

[videoblogging] Re: Why i must leave Blip

2007-12-24 Thread mikehudack
Thanks Paul :) Merry Christmas to you and everyone else who celebrates! Cheers! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Huddack should have been Time Magazine's Person of the Year!!! Mike Huddack should also be nominated for next years Nobel peace

[videoblogging] Re: Why i must leave Blip

2007-12-24 Thread mikehudack
:) Merry Christmas Loiez. You should be on the new bandwidth now. Please let us know if it helps! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thx Mike That is a great gift for xmas ! Peace, love and vlogging Loiez Le 24 déc. 07 à 15:10, mikehudack a

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread David
The flurry of videoblogging messages must, I assumed, mean an argument brewing over here. And I was right. Now I don't know much about the original spark. I've become a lurker more than a full-fledged participant. But I did notice Mr. Scoble saying a community becomes how it treats its

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread andrew michael baron
Well, this list doesn't do it for me much anymore either. I dont really get that much support from the list. This is not to say that this is not a supportive community or that its gone bad, its just that I personally dont get that much from it anymore. People are not as moved as they seemed to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... the situation is resolved.

2007-12-24 Thread Jay dedman
Well, the good news is I worked out a compromise. The bad news is the video I just spent 10+ hours working on will never be posted. She wants me to sever all connection to her from the video, remove her name, the metatags and the youtube response connection so that nobody watching her

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Why i must leave Blip

2007-12-24 Thread Loiez D.
yeah! That's perfect now Thx from France LOiez Le 24 déc. 07 à 16:17, mikehudack a écrit : :) Merry Christmas Loiez. You should be on the new bandwidth now. Please let us know if it helps! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thx Mike

[videoblogging] Help

2007-12-24 Thread s_scoggins
I posted a film that I made on the writer J.G.Ballard in 1983 here: http://ommane.blogspot.com/ The video file is hosted on blip.tv were it runs fine. When I click on the image on my new blog it doesn't go through to blip but launches Windows Media Player were it runs very small and without

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread David
Andrew, I saw your post yesterday and read the dembot blog post as a result. I never responded, however, because I'm not sure what I foresee the future of networks being so I didn't have a meaningful reply. Maybe it was the same for others here. Regarding the dying of the list ... rage

Re: [videoblogging] Help

2007-12-24 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Plays fine with sound from both locations, but I'm using flip4mac on a macbook pro, so that might have something to do with it. Flip4mac allows wmv files to play in Quicktime. Tried to download the file to have a look at its guts, but it crashed Firefox :( Try posting the file with blip's copy

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Jay dedman
Just the other day I posted what I would consider a pretty relevant topic about the changing industry, mentioned I had been working on a hypothesis for quite some time and then asked for thoughts but didn't get a single response here. It wound up on Techmeme with links from Mashable,

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Watkins
Nice post, I pretty much totally agree with you there. I think Ive moaned about this in the past year or so, I miss a large number of people and their opinions. I suppose it was easier to talk about things when it was fresher. There is probably as much new stuff happening, in terms of

Re: [videoblogging] Help

2007-12-24 Thread Jay dedman
I posted a film that I made on the writer J.G.Ballard in 1983 here: http://ommane.blogspot.com/ The video file is hosted on blip.tv were it runs fine. When I click on the image on my new blog it doesn't go through to blip but launches Windows Media Player were it runs very small and

[videoblogging] Re: Help

2007-12-24 Thread s_scoggins
Jan and Jay. Thanks for the help - I'll give it a go. I notice other threads here bemoning the usefullness of the group - so as a new vlogger (but long time independent media producer), I'd just like to say thanks to everyone here who helps others - seems useful to me! -Sam

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Why i must leave Blip

2007-12-24 Thread Jake Ludington
So does anyone know of any blip-like sites that loiez could probably try until either blip or french telecom get their collective acts together? Baring in mind that Loiez uses widescreen HD, even sometimes super widescreen in his work. DivX Stage6 might be a good choice, although I don't see

[videoblogging] Re: Why i must leave Blip

2007-12-24 Thread mikehudack
For what it's worth, we've moved Loiez over to the new bandwidth (along with another person or two who e-mailed us) and all should be good in France now. Please drop me a line ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you'd like to have your bandwidth upgraded in advance of the overall switch, which will be a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Sull
end of the year such clockwork. it might help to do what i do. that is to look at this Yahoo Mailing List Group as merely one channel among many. i don't consider this yahoo group a community. and we can debate what a community is as well. there was a time when videoblogging community

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Eric Rice
Adam, I wanna rape puppies with you. 3 And this is why I lurk. ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad to see Calacanis took time off from raping puppies, or whatever he does out there in the Hall of Doom, to be the voice of reason here. Funny to

[videoblogging] Jonny's par-tay in brooklyn, this weds 9pm, come drink some 'nog with us!

2007-12-24 Thread jonny goldstein
Come celebrate in person at Jonny's Brooklyn Par-tay, this Weds 9PM in Park Slope--Or hang out with us online http://jonnygoldstein.com

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Chris
I kind of have to chuckle at how jaded so many people in this thread seem to be, talking about videoblogging as if it's a bum-legged horse that you can't bring yourself to take round the back of the barn and shoot in the head. To people like me - and, I think, the world at large - serial

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Eric Rice
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble I quit Microsoft because of this community (seriously, this community played a big role in my decision) and it just hasn't lived up to its potential. This is determined by whom...? ER

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Eric Rice
What's the best technical example I can use here... hmm.. oh yeah, the one that TRAFFIC != indicator of value or quality. Hell, even in the web space where 'time spent on site' is replacing the click counting. I'm willing to think the Road Node and Node 101s don't get the numbers, numbers,

[videoblogging] FLV Video hotspots to monetize online vidz

2007-12-24 Thread Renat Zarbailov
Hello gang, Has anyone ever dealt with embedding URL hot-spots in FLV video? I think this is the best approach to monetize an online show via product placement that allows the end-user to click on the product featured and have a new tab pop up without stopping the show. I did some searchin' and

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Charles Hope
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus. This is getting so very, very ridiculous and out of hand. What are you? On dope? There's fighting between siblings, and there's fighting between enemies. The casual observer can be mistaken. But I believe

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I'm not talking making people ashamed for having conversations, I'm talking about how their heads are stuck on sticks and paraded around town. It's very Lord Of The Flies, and nobody deserves to be treated as Piggy. But maybe in your world they do. Your actions are showing that that is how you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Jay dedman
I'm not talking making people ashamed for having conversations, I'm talking about how their heads are stuck on sticks and paraded around town. It's very Lord Of The Flies, and nobody deserves to be treated as Piggy. But maybe in your world they do. Your actions are showing that that is how

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Eric Rice
I think it's in the presentation, guys. This group irritates me on far more occasions than not, so I just keep my mouth shut and lurk and only chime in if I feel I have something to contribute. Reading only the stuff that makes me happy does not make me, as an individual, any smarter. And within

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
You are right, it is a wiki and as a member here I guess I should just cut it out. When I think about the future and what I am proud of that I have done in this field and on this list, having a list like that is not something I think is needed. And yes, I did find it very offensive, manly because

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Brook Hinton
I cannot figure out how, in a group that sometimes seems so EXTREMELY focused on the purely commercal side of videoblogging lately, some people feel the group is ANTI such things and operates as a lynch mob along those lines. I still see plenty of all kinds of discussion here. I also think a

Re: [videoblogging] FLV Video hotspots to monetize online vidz

2007-12-24 Thread Jay dedman
Has anyone ever dealt with embedding URL hot-spots in FLV video? I think this is the best approach to monetize an online show via product placement that allows the end-user to click on the product featured and have a new tab pop up without stopping the show. I did some searchin' and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Brook Hinton
Should have added to that: and if we can't argue with each other about the resulting issues, and criticize each other, why have the group at all? Easy enough to form happy little support listservs to focus on the various niches and genres. This group is about, or at least I thought it was, a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
You hit the nail on the head: Instead of putting those sorts of hate/spite posts on the group wiki, PLEASE feel free to use Evilvlog! EVERYONE is always welcome to post on Evilvlog. Admin and Password: anon Or email me offlist and we'll get you your own account, so you can use your own name.

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Richard Bluestein
Blabbermouth! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You hit the nail on the head: Instead of putting those sorts of hate/spite posts on the group wiki, PLEASE feel free to use Evilvlog! EVERYONE is always welcome to post on Evilvlog.

[videoblogging] Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread terry.rendon
I asked the question on the Hummingcrow post Am I the only who believes that most of the concerns brought up in this video should have been handled privately? I have no problem with people giving criticism of others. It helps artists grow with when they get feedback, negative or positive. My

Re: [videoblogging] Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
If I were suspicious about how one is using advertising on their show and I had some questions about it, I would privately relay my questions through an email to the right people and keep it there. She did. Cheryl clearly states in the video that she e-mail Zadi and Steve about it before

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Brook Hinton
Terry, Cheryl's post was not an accusation.. She didn't state anything that needed backing up. And the post (how many times does this have to be said) wasn't about targeting Epic-Fu, they were used as an example illustrating how she COULDN'T know what was behind the product usage - in a post that

[videoblogging] Re: FLV Video hotspots to monetize online vidz

2007-12-24 Thread Chumley
Yeah, I use the blip overlay ads option on my main site player. It appears in the first minute or so and you can close it if you so choose. You can check it out here http://www.cultofuhf.com if you want to see an example. It has seemed to work for the most part. Rev. --- In

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread terry.rendon
Hello Brooke Cheryl's post was not an accusation Yes, Cheryl didn't directly accuse anyone of anything. But questions, perhaps fairly or unfairly, have a way of appearing as so. And she did say, Since I don't know, I don't trust. That's strong language in my book. And the post (how many times

[videoblogging] Re: FLV Video hotspots to monetize online vidz

2007-12-24 Thread Renat Zarbailov
Guys, I am not talking about overlays. I am talking about hotspots assigned visually and not intrusively indicating that user can click on it to learn more. Look closely at the examples I found... http://www.flashloaded.com/flashcomponents/hotflashvideo/

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Woolf
Excuse me. Cheryl sent us an email letting us know she would be criticizing our content for being bubble gum content. We responded with examples of the important issues we try to bring up, the interests of our audience, and so forth. At no point did she ever ask us about sponsored links, how we

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Woolf
Depite some Inflammatory and knee jerk comments, it seems like a giant win for all concerned. Brook, how can your livelihood being threatened by your professional integrity being called into question be a win for us? We are out there doing this with no safety net. Our show depends on its

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I know I'm not the most knowledgable person when it ones to Christian holidays, but can I still toss those sorts of people away for Lent? Maybe that question is for a more religious listserv... On 12/24/07, Steve Woolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depite some Inflammatory and knee jerk comments,

[videoblogging] Are you a Tech Elitist?

2007-12-24 Thread Bill Cammack
Are you a Tech Elitist? http://blog.fastcompany.com/experts/bcammack/2007/12/are_you_a_tech_elitist.html or http://tinyurl.com/yth5av -- Bill Cammack CammackMediaGroup.com

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Brook Hinton
Wow. Well, I didn't take Cheryl's post as questioning your integrity. If anything it seemed like there was an assumption because of who you guys are that everything was probably being done with integrity, but the problem was that there was no way for anyone to know that. Again, basic media

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Brook Hinton
On the other hand, aspects of ensuing discussions make me fear that any discussion that touches on sensitive personal or livelihood matters for anyone involved will devolve, no matter how things are originally expressed, into this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdzLFNELeCI

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays everyone! Thank you.

[videoblogging] Re: FLV Video hotspots to monetize online vidz

2007-12-24 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Yeah, there are a couple others ... There was also a member of this group that had a demo link posted of a idea s/he had to do multiple product placements. Do a few searches or someone here may have a link handy. I think I posted at least one recently on this list but I could be wrong. Whatever

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread David Howell
Steve, I just got finished reading all these posts here on the list surrounding all this. As you already know, I am the one that called you guys corporate whores on Twitter. Yep. A pretty harsh statement to make. After watching your response video and pondering on what you guys said, I cant

[videoblogging] hee, this is what i did with my xmas

2007-12-24 Thread Irina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSs92_sRNMw -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Fwd: [videoblogging] Copyright and fair use...

2007-12-24 Thread Irina
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT -- Forwarded message -- From: lawgeek FYI, you might want to also point out to people that if someone sends a copyright takedown to YouTube over your video, you can always counternotice to YouTube that it is a fair use and it will go back up within 10-14

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Drew
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the blog post that Andrew posted: http://dembot.com/post/22117963 There are classic insights like, While the rest of the world is blooming online, TV has no new content to offer right now. I read it, and was

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Andrew Baron
Cheers David, onward and upward! On Dec 24, 2007, at 11:26 AM, David wrote: Andrew, I saw your post yesterday and read the dembot blog post as a result. I never responded, however, because I'm not sure what I foresee the future of networks being so I didn't have a meaningful reply. Maybe it

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Andrew Baron
On Dec 24, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Steve Watkins wrote: Collaboration not as easy as it should be, but is this a failure of tools or a failure of will? Ah the metaphsical. If I could just prove that space is finite and time is infinite then I could show by deduction that the problem is

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread taulpaulmpls
Andrew, I did read your post on this the other day. You summed up the state of the studio pretty well. I believe the nail in their coffin will be the new media buyers taking over the status-quo positions. Part of my job is to research new opportunites for new media buys. Once the old

[videoblogging] Re: Why i must leave Blip

2007-12-24 Thread taulpaulmpls
You sir, are the model for the new breed of CEO. I'll be completely disappointed if I find out your Chumby or Nabaztag is the one responding with all the great customer service. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) Merry Christmas Loiez. You should

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Andrew Baron
On Dec 24, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Sull wrote: i'm glad you received appreciation and offers based on that post... but i can assure you...or maybe at least bet... that if it were I or many others that tossed that blog post up no such offers, publicity or appreciation would result. This is

[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel like this with the group while trying to discuss the writers strike. The implications of the strike are so perfectly tied into the subject matter that so many people here discuss, its just *weird* its not