Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-09 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Joshua Kinberg wrote: I think it is a good tactic. Its good to see the people behind the software... or the people behind the company for that matter. True fans/geeks love this stuff. It does build trust and I think this is a good thing. Of course you are correct in insinuating that it could

[videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Watkins
Im not Eric and dont know anything about Audioblog, but I googled ffmpeg flv and got quite a lot of results, so I guess it can be done. Just one example: http://www.lvp-site.nl/flv/flvconvert.txt Im glad flv's can be created by 3rd party software, because I believe Macromedia really wanted

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Chris Baudry
Steve, Thanks for the search. I am currently using FFMPEG and I have a lot of problems with it: more than half of the videos are not transcoded well. Some not at all and some without the sound. Definitely AudioBlog and YouTube have great conversion systems so I wondered what they were using.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
YouTube and Audioblog are proprietary services. Why should they give away their trade secrets because you want to build a competing service? I don't understand... -josh On 9/8/05, Chris Baudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Thanks for the search. I am currently using FFMPEG and I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Markus Sandy
Joshua Kinberg wrote: YouTube and Audioblog are proprietary services. Why should they give away their trade secrets because you want to build a competing service? I don't understand... perhaps understanding breads customer trust and loyalty? consider microsoft's channel 9 things are

[videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Watkins
I still think back to the days when the videoblogging tools were first appearing, and people got carried away with using the term opensource. I was cynical then, suggested the term opensource was just being used as trendy rhetoric by some, or because it seemed in keeping with the way the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Believe me, I agree with you that knowledge should be free. And in fact it is quite astounding the amount of free information that is out there already... with a little googling expertise I'm sure you can find several FLV encoders that can be used on the server side for exactly the purpose you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Chris Baudry
Hi Josh: It may be a trade secret. Inever thought about that.If it is they can just say so. I would understand their point of view. At the same time it is probably an existing software well known by people who do transcoding. And in both cases their strength is probably much more in their

RE: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Jake Ludington
Well, many months later and theres still virtually no videoblogging tools of any kind that are opensource. There are a few exceptions, and maybe Im out of date, but generally even free services seem to be keeping their code to themselves. Are you referring specifically to hosting services

[videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Watkins
I was specifically referring to software and services made specifically for videobloggers. ourmedia, fireant, mefeedia, vlogmap would be examples of the sorts of things I mean. Now its certainly true that it doesnt make much sense for some of these services to be opensource, at least on face

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Michael Sullivan
this is the first media aggregator to be truly open sourced: http://openvision.tv/home/home.html give it some more time, and you will see many more come out as 'yet another media aggregator' similar to p2p apps. also, as far as I know, ourmedia code is avail... uses drupal and some modules

[videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Watkins
Your points are good and true. Unless its just their website being out of date, that openvision link you sent, that stuff isnt the first to be truly opensourced either as far as Im concerned, becaause it hasnt happened yet. One of my big points was the difference between saying something will be

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 21:43:17 +0200, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont think fireant intends to release code nor should they if they plan to work out business strategies. When the first versions of ANT was being developed we were told it would be open source. The

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Michael Sullivan
i hear ya. i suppose their is also a difference between an organized effort to be opensource verses 'sharing code' ;-) the trend these days is to have an open API, but not share source code. also, the opensource movement, in relation to code, can be looked at as overrated. their is prob a 9 to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Chris Baudry
And here is the solution to the very specific question I asked Eric: there are at least three good commercial solutions: Squeeze from Sorenson,Agility from Anystream and Cleaner from Discreet - they are the ones mentioned on theMacromedia website. They all use a watch folder solution. Squeeze

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Michael Sullivan
i purchased php turbine for my employer about a year ago, but we have not used it at all since the project spec changed. still is useful, just has not fit into our projects there... but i would like to use it... except i would need to buy a license myself and it aint cheap.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Markus Sandy
Joshua Kinberg wrote: Microsoft and Channel 9 are in a much different position than these other two services. Microsoft is educating developers on how to use Microsoft's tools -- how to develop for the Windows platform with Microsoft core technologies. That is definitely in Microsoft's interest,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I have no problem with Microsoft and the way they try to market their products. I'm not always a big fan of Microsoft usually... I've been an Apple user my whole life until recently buying a Windows laptop to help test and develop FireANT on Windows. I'm glad MIcrosoft chooses to use a videoblog

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Markus Sandy
Joshua Kinberg wrote: I don't see how me stating the obvoius -- that Microsoft clearly uses Channel 9 to educate developers about Windows core technologies -- means that I am somehow drinking the Kool-Aid on this one. Sure its marketing... the best kind of marketing educates people about your

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I think it is a good tactic. Its good to see the people behind the software... or the people behind the company for that matter. True fans/geeks love this stuff. It does build trust and I think this is a good thing. Of course you are correct in insinuating that it could be used to build a false

Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file conversion to the Flash format

2005-09-08 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 8/9/05 Chris Baudry mentioned about Re: [videoblogging] Re: To Eric Rice / Audioblog about file that: Squeeze is $450. I bet YouTube and AudioBlog are using it. I do not think it is a trade secret at all. Everyone in the transcoder business probably knows this... except me. But I am