Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-02-01 Thread Jay dedman
> I guess this gives you an insight into the magnitude of the 'raw > space' we are providing and why we are so stoked about it. > Tickets go on sale next week; there are 'bonuses' for early ticket > purchases and in addition all people purchasing tickets before 1st of > May will get early acce

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-02-01 Thread Jay dedman
> What do you want to do in the world of video blogging that was never > possible before today but you could implement at this event just > because of the scale (workshops on CC licenses and implementation of > machine readable license metadata for one would stop a lot of > bitching in this gr

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-02-01 Thread Jan McLaughlin
A multi-camera shoot of something amazing produced / organized by BarCamp. Jan On 2/1/07, Dean Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > As some of you may have read yesterday the reason for me > subscribing >

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-02-01 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Great idea the website / wiki, Jay :) You're Open Source to the core. Nice. Jan On 2/1/07, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As some of you may have read yesterday the reason for me subscribing > > to this group is that I'm on the organising commitee for > > www.BarCampUSA.org whic

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Jay dedman
> As some of you may have read yesterday the reason for me subscribing > to this group is that I'm on the organising commitee for > www.BarCampUSA.org which is a 'mega' barcamp being held in Wisconsin > in August (23rd to 26th) later this year. > It is projected that over 5000+ people from aro

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread sull
well said, mike... that is the truth of this group. On 1/31/07, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd like to add one very simple thing. This group is whatever its > members make it. While there are list administrators, they're extremely > hands-off (as I believe they should be) and it

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Hudack
I'd like to add one very simple thing. This group is whatever its members make it. While there are list administrators, they're extremely hands-off (as I believe they should be) and it's largely been left to the approximately 2,500 people on this list to manage themselves and direct the conversat

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Meiser
On 1/30/07, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josh, I think you and some others here are able to articulate specific > arguments against contests in ways folks can understand. I'm not up to the > task. Ditto Josh! > Competing against one another doesn't cut it any more - not in a commun

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Meiser
On 1/30/07, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't believe that contests necessarily have to be zero-sum. If > there's adequate promotional opportunity for all participants (or at > least those participants who have something of a quality entry) they can > avoid being truly zero sum game

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Jay dedman
On 1/30/07, Jeffrey Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Network 2 reacted appropriately after behaving inappropriately > The contest is fine. Not my cuppa, personally, but there's nothing > ethically wrong with it. > Full disclosure when it comes to marketing activity is a good thing. > People

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Josh, I think you and some others here are able to articulate specific arguments against contests in ways folks can understand. I'm not up to the task. Competing against one another doesn't cut it any more - not in a community like this. Either everyone who wants to win will win, or I want no part

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Jay dedman
> I figured out how to email through, perhaps. > If your reply-to-email to the videoblogging group has all the html > stuff on the side bar that Yahoo sticks on the email, such at the > "recent activiy" side bar, colorful "sponsored links" etc, then I > guess the email will get clogged up while

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Josh Leo
I wouldn't have a problem making a video talking about how I watch "internet TV" I do it in a number of ways, and it has made a big impact on my life. (Heck, I videoblogged my proposal! if that doesn't show you i like videoblogging, I don't know what does.) my issues lie here: - making videos for

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread andrew michael baron
I figured out how to email through, perhaps. If your reply-to-email to the videoblogging group has all the html stuff on the side bar that Yahoo sticks on the email, such at the "recent activiy" side bar, colorful "sponsored links" etc, then I guess the email will get clogged up while Yahoo

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Charles Hope
Steve, I actually find your input very useful, because you often enough write what I'm too busy to find phrasing for. This group doesn't need to become an echo chamber of constant happy agreement. Please, keep testing us. It is the only path to truth.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread andrew michael baron
Great! Notes from Steve, the self-proclaimed authority on videoblogging (who has been talking about starting his own for over 2 years now). Lets strip out all the nonsense and get right to the points Steve was trying to make with Jeff Pulver's offer to give away $40 thousand dollars to a vi

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Rupert
Is it? Doesn't it? I'm not clever enough to follow your logical outflanking of me. The only point I was making was that we shouldn't be making judgements about people's 'expertise' and thereby telling people we won't respect their opinion, based on their vlogging productivity. A keen ob

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Rupert
I know it was a ;) joke, but he's really not like someone without kids giving advice to their friends on how to raise kids... Sorry to be a bit too earnest, but it makes me feel a bit uneasy to see jokes about Steve's output and therefore his 'expertise' as part of a heated argument on this

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Mike Hudack
I don't believe that contests necessarily have to be zero-sum. If there's adequate promotional opportunity for all participants (or at least those participants who have something of a quality entry) they can avoid being truly zero sum games. > -Original Message- > From: videoblogging@yaho

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Jan McLaughlin
What's wrong with contests are they are hierarchical and exclusionary but definition, unless you structure them differently. Give $1K to the first 40 vloggers who show plane fares bought to the conference location and dates. I absolutely think contests are uncool. Popularity is not a measure of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread andrew michael baron
This may be a repeat email. If this email comes first however, I may have figured out how to streamline the yahoo group system. If not, back to the drawing board. I sent the below to take you up on the bitching Steve because I just cant let you get away with it all alone ;) Im serious howeve

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
Network 2 reacted appropriately after behaving inappropriately. The contest is fine. Not my cuppa, personally, but there's nothing ethically wrong with it. Full disclosure when it comes to marketing activity is a good thing. People having a choice when it comes to their participation is a good

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-30 Thread Steve Garfield
On Jan 30, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Steve Watkins wrote: > He could be right but personally I laugh at this in disbelief... You laugh in his general direction? Ref: Monty Python Holy Grail Scene 8 http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/grail-08.htm Ha! That's classic. --Steve -- Steve Garfield http://S