Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2008-04-23 Thread Sull
Andrew, I have not come to any conclusions beyond... nothing much has changed due to the writer's strike. How do you feel now? Besides, its about 6 months later so we can talk about the inevitable bla bla bla which was the original intent of this thread. So what's the current state?

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2008-01-14 Thread Richard H. Hall
Thanks Irina. Maureen certainly smells good. Me on the other hand, well ... ... Stinky On Jan 12, 2008 6:53 AM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i know more than your name! i know that your wife is the best smellingwife inamerica! On Jan 9, 2008 1:56 PM, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2008-01-12 Thread Irina
i know more than your name! i know that your wife is the best smellingwife inamerica! On Jan 9, 2008 1:56 PM, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm way behind reading my emails for this group. I finally made a filter in gmail so that all the group ones are tagged and moved

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2008-01-09 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
Well, I'm way behind reading my emails for this group. I finally made a filter in gmail so that all the group ones are tagged and moved from the inbos and there were 300 threads in there and I'm down to 160. However, I did not delete any of these threads without reading, because I LOVE THIS

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2008-01-09 Thread RANDY MANN
hell even i know who you are On Jan 9, 2008 4:56 PM, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm way behind reading my emails for this group. I finally made a filter in gmail so that all the group ones are tagged and moved from the inbos and there were 300 threads in there and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-25 Thread Sull
On Dec 24, 2007 10:41 PM, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 24, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Sull wrote: i'm glad you received appreciation and offers based on that post... but i can assure you...or maybe at least bet... that if it were I or many others that tossed that

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
Thank you, Jason, for contributing something that was well-timed, direct in its intention and in context. And my tongue is not in my cheek when I say that. Videoblogging is fantastic and presents awe-inspiring opportunities, but it is by no means a road to Damascus, a Utopia or a space free of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread andrew michael baron
Well, this list doesn't do it for me much anymore either. I dont really get that much support from the list. This is not to say that this is not a supportive community or that its gone bad, its just that I personally dont get that much from it anymore. People are not as moved as they seemed to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Jay dedman
Just the other day I posted what I would consider a pretty relevant topic about the changing industry, mentioned I had been working on a hypothesis for quite some time and then asked for thoughts but didn't get a single response here. It wound up on Techmeme with links from Mashable,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Sull
end of the year such clockwork. it might help to do what i do. that is to look at this Yahoo Mailing List Group as merely one channel among many. i don't consider this yahoo group a community. and we can debate what a community is as well. there was a time when videoblogging community

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I'm not talking making people ashamed for having conversations, I'm talking about how their heads are stuck on sticks and paraded around town. It's very Lord Of The Flies, and nobody deserves to be treated as Piggy. But maybe in your world they do. Your actions are showing that that is how you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Jay dedman
I'm not talking making people ashamed for having conversations, I'm talking about how their heads are stuck on sticks and paraded around town. It's very Lord Of The Flies, and nobody deserves to be treated as Piggy. But maybe in your world they do. Your actions are showing that that is how

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
You are right, it is a wiki and as a member here I guess I should just cut it out. When I think about the future and what I am proud of that I have done in this field and on this list, having a list like that is not something I think is needed. And yes, I did find it very offensive, manly because

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Brook Hinton
I cannot figure out how, in a group that sometimes seems so EXTREMELY focused on the purely commercal side of videoblogging lately, some people feel the group is ANTI such things and operates as a lynch mob along those lines. I still see plenty of all kinds of discussion here. I also think a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Brook Hinton
Should have added to that: and if we can't argue with each other about the resulting issues, and criticize each other, why have the group at all? Easy enough to form happy little support listservs to focus on the various niches and genres. This group is about, or at least I thought it was, a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
You hit the nail on the head: Instead of putting those sorts of hate/spite posts on the group wiki, PLEASE feel free to use Evilvlog! EVERYONE is always welcome to post on Evilvlog. Admin and Password: anon Or email me offlist and we'll get you your own account, so you can use your own name.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Andrew Baron
Cheers David, onward and upward! On Dec 24, 2007, at 11:26 AM, David wrote: Andrew, I saw your post yesterday and read the dembot blog post as a result. I never responded, however, because I'm not sure what I foresee the future of networks being so I didn't have a meaningful reply. Maybe it

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Andrew Baron
On Dec 24, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Steve Watkins wrote: Collaboration not as easy as it should be, but is this a failure of tools or a failure of will? Ah the metaphsical. If I could just prove that space is finite and time is infinite then I could show by deduction that the problem is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-24 Thread Andrew Baron
On Dec 24, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Sull wrote: i'm glad you received appreciation and offers based on that post... but i can assure you...or maybe at least bet... that if it were I or many others that tossed that blog post up no such offers, publicity or appreciation would result. This is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-23 Thread Jay dedman
64 comments and counting. http://www.hummingcrow.com/2007/12/21/new-media yeah..lets continue to keep the conversation over on cheryl's blog. its not about whether Epic Fu is good or bad. its really about what values all of us want to maintain as more of us continue to carve a living

RE: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-23 Thread Robert Scoble
conversation about what we're doing 64 comments and counting. http://www.hummingc http://www.hummingcrow.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ row.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every 6 months or so

RE: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-23 Thread Robert Scoble
let's not get into a Scoble bashing. robert, you cant expect to jump into a community of 2000 people, piss on us, and then not get hate. do you? Oh, the old don't beat up on the community threat. It's funny. This community has grown very little over the past year. Why is that? Especially

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-23 Thread Jay dedman
I quit Microsoft because of this community (seriously, this community played a big role in my decision) and it just hasn't lived up to its potential. Why is that? no one is here to hate you Robert. its the holidays. (but you have to admit that you just walked into a room of people and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-23 Thread ryanne hodson
ok ok this is nutty zadi and steve are adults they responded to cheryl's post like adults they got some criticism (as all of us do from time to time when we stick our necks out as zs do and even cheryl in her post) they handled it well. i don't see any comments on that post 'beating up' on

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-23 Thread Jay dedman
I've seen the death of communities before and this one sure seems to be in decline. Message traffic is down. Helpfulness is down. And evidence of beating up on leadership is up. Good luck with that. See ya over on Twitter. Robert Robert Scoble ladies and gentleman. he'll be playing over

Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

2007-12-23 Thread Adam Quirk
Glad to see Calacanis took time off from raping puppies, or whatever he does out there in the Hall of Doom, to be the voice of reason here. Funny to see Scoble trying to melodramatically leave all of us loser videobloggers in the pre-video-streaming dust. How can anyone with as much experience