Re: [videoblogging] Re: Things are changing for real.....(?)
Agreed. Sorry Adam but that article was garbage. No references and pure fear mongering. As i read Jay's first post I thought about how we've moved away from uninformed fear mongering arguments about net neutrality. Does anyone remember the Rocketboom highway analogy video? Anyone who's ever tried to do some work at 10 PM in a business traveler's hotel understands how detrimental a lack of network management can be. While some guests are downloading films over bit torrent, others are waiting 30 minutes just to check their email. Network management isn't going to go away. It's useful for multiple reasons. The primary reason being customer satisfaction. However, rules that discourage anti-competitiveness are necessary. Obviously ISP shouldn't be aloud to completely block content, only modify it's priority. i.e. Prioritize VOIP packets while delaying bittorrent packets. The best solution I can imagine would be in the form of network management transparency with the public or a government agency. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They try this, they won't know what hit them. I like how the article says Canada is a good test case because Canadians are more laissez faire and less politically motivated. Not my experience of Canada so far. They might seem laid back, but poke them with a stick and they're like hornets. And people here seem more reliant on the internet for communication and information than those in countries with greater population density. Britain would be a better test case. People are less gung ho about new technology computers there. Except there are 1000s of ISPs, and they all compete to offer more freedom and goodies. And even in Britain, when 3 mobile tried to do this with internet access on their 3G phones in England, it didn't work and they had to open it up so they could compete with Vodafone O2. AOL died in the UK for much the same reason. Wherever it's tried where there's competition, it won't work. Where I am on Vancouver Island, Telus and Shaw compete pretty aggressively with both rival ADSL Cable services available to most households. Whoever tries to introduce this kind of bullshit will lose most of their customers to a competitor who offers a better deal. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 22-Jul-08, at 9:56 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Another doomsday scenario: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20330.htm *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised it got this far as well, but I still worry.they may not be able to block traffic but I do see the day when we are paying for what we download and I see the Verizon's, comcast, time warner, ATT etc somehow making their own content exempt from the bandwith consumption and making deals with other content providers who only produce professional content and that will all but kill user gen content yeah...I probably spoke too soon: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080716-martin-be-damned- cable-isps-want-network-management-freedom.html Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
I just used YouTube's new Annotations tool to create a little interactive videoblog story, created very quickly with my phone. Exciting that this kind of thing is possible so easily. You can only see it on YouTube - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQg_LCq_T8fmt=18 and I blogged it here http://twittervlog.tv/?p=268 Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
so much fun! posted one on my facebook profile to scare the mice away! On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:50 AM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just used YouTube's new Annotations tool to create a little interactive videoblog story, created very quickly with my phone. Exciting that this kind of thing is possible so easily. You can only see it on YouTube - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQg_LCq_T8fmt=18 and I blogged it here http://twittervlog.tv/?p=268 Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
Ha! That was great! On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:50 AM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just used YouTube's new Annotations tool to create a little interactive videoblog story, created very quickly with my phone. Exciting that this kind of thing is possible so easily. You can only see it on YouTube - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQg_LCq_T8fmt=18 and I blogged it here http://twittervlog.tv/?p=268 Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggers or Videographers heading to the Democratic Republican National C
I'm heading to the RNC to make some fish-outta-water video schenanegans! On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 2:52 PM, thisiswar3005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Noel, Actually, our blog Zennie's Zeitgeist was credentialed for the DNC Convention and I just went to the media walkthrough two weeks ago and it's attached to the companion YouTube channel Zennie62 -- http://www.youtube.com/zennie62 . Would love to coordinate and I just sent an invitation to add you to our writer list. See: http://zennie2005.blogspot.com Thanks, Zennie --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, noel hidalgo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Vloggers or Videographers heading to the Democratic Republican National Conventions, hi'ya. for those of you who don't know me, i'm the community manager for www.remixamerica.org - we're a non-profit that explores the space of remixes and promotes remixers. since we explore the limitations of fair-use and promote free-speech, we are heading to the Democratic and Republican National Conventions. we are in the process of coordinating our efforts with indie camera crews / vloggers / videographers. if you are planning to attend, please shoot me an email and lets see how we can coordinate resources. for the DNC, we have hired a few remix editors and have established a basecamp. we would love to network with as many on the ground teams as possible. also, if you know of someone or some group that is already establishing a multi-media tent, please connect some dots... please shoot me a private email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell me your plans. let's see how we can bring some video magic to the the doldrum of network news. noneck -- [ play ] http://noneck.org [ work ] http://remixamerica.org [ travel ] http://luckofseven.com [ email/jabber/aim ] noel[a]noneck.org [ sms ] +1.937.218.2422 [ skype ] nonecknoel -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Today the tape died - Canon HF11 HG11
It's all going to depend on how the 24 mbps AVCHD stream LOOKS. Note how much computational power is needed for good h.264 encoding when the computer has the luxury of analyzing an existing set of data. Real time capture with these temporal codecs is a minefield - even the best HDV implementations still have trouble, and that's after years of it being in the field. But I'm hoping they've nailed it, and anxious to find out. Not, however, looking forward to having acres of hard drives to shelve for backup, or to having to transfer everything to two drives after shooting to have a backup set of media for work in progress. I'm more excited about the possiblity that this will be an improvement in image quality over consumer HDV. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
[videoblogging] Re: Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
A Rupert's gone and DONE IT, NOW! :D ... Yes... You're Right!... I SHOULD be making videos! hahahahahahaha oh no. :) Bill Cammack http://billcammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just used YouTube's new Annotations tool to create a little interactive videoblog story, created very quickly with my phone. Exciting that this kind of thing is possible so easily. You can only see it on YouTube - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQg_LCq_T8fmt=18 and I blogged it here http://twittervlog.tv/?p=268 Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
oh no! I think I made the wrong choice for the tea! now i fear dear Rupert will be up all night making more and more vids to flush out the stories! great fun rupert! On Jul 23, 2008, at 2:50 AM, Rupert wrote: I just used YouTube's new Annotations tool to create a little interactive videoblog story, created very quickly with my phone. Exciting that this kind of thing is possible so easily. You can only see it on YouTube - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQg_LCq_T8fmt=18 and I blogged it here http://twittervlog.tv/?p=268 Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Things are changing for real.....(?)
It very well could be complete garbage. And at the very least, the part about them slipping it past Canadians with little fanfare is obviously never going to happen. But it makes sense financially. And usually corporations like to make money. There's also this, if that first article wasn't mongering enough fear: http://digg.com/tech_news/2012_The_Year_The_Internet_Ends If and when the Time article comes out, we'll see if they really have sources from those top Telco's. As a poster on another list I'm on states: did you believe it when you first heard att had special rooms to share all packets with the feds? i had a tough time with that one, yet it was proven to be true, for all the major us telcos except quest. On a more positive note, I think that even if we are forced into a tiered situation, it probably won't last very long. People will be angry and demand more bandwidth. Other companies could rise to the challenge and lay bigger pipes and tubes to meet demand. We may see a temporary information recession, but it's not the end of the world. *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. Sorry Adam but that article was garbage. No references and pure fear mongering. As i read Jay's first post I thought about how we've moved away from uninformed fear mongering arguments about net neutrality. Does anyone remember the Rocketboom highway analogy video? Anyone who's ever tried to do some work at 10 PM in a business traveler's hotel understands how detrimental a lack of network management can be. While some guests are downloading films over bit torrent, others are waiting 30 minutes just to check their email. Network management isn't going to go away. It's useful for multiple reasons. The primary reason being customer satisfaction. However, rules that discourage anti-competitiveness are necessary. Obviously ISP shouldn't be aloud to completely block content, only modify it's priority. i.e. Prioritize VOIP packets while delaying bittorrent packets. The best solution I can imagine would be in the form of network management transparency with the public or a government agency. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They try this, they won't know what hit them. I like how the article says Canada is a good test case because Canadians are more laissez faire and less politically motivated. Not my experience of Canada so far. They might seem laid back, but poke them with a stick and they're like hornets. And people here seem more reliant on the internet for communication and information than those in countries with greater population density. Britain would be a better test case. People are less gung ho about new technology computers there. Except there are 1000s of ISPs, and they all compete to offer more freedom and goodies. And even in Britain, when 3 mobile tried to do this with internet access on their 3G phones in England, it didn't work and they had to open it up so they could compete with Vodafone O2. AOL died in the UK for much the same reason. Wherever it's tried where there's competition, it won't work. Where I am on Vancouver Island, Telus and Shaw compete pretty aggressively with both rival ADSL Cable services available to most households. Whoever tries to introduce this kind of bullshit will lose most of their customers to a competitor who offers a better deal. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 22-Jul-08, at 9:56 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Another doomsday scenario: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20330.htm *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised it got this far as well, but I still worry.they may not be able to block traffic but I do see the day when we are paying for what we download and I see the Verizon's, comcast, time warner, ATT etc somehow making their own content exempt from the bandwith consumption and making deals with other content providers who only produce professional content and that will all but kill user gen content yeah...I probably spoke too soon: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080716-martin-be-damned- cable-isps-want-network-management-freedom.html Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have
Re: [videoblogging] Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
I was addicted to Choose your Own Adventure style books when I was a kid. As I am still a kid trapped in an adult sized body, I loved every minute of it. Although I was waiting for the one that would be the wrong choice and totally end the entire story - ya know like Oh No! you just sent Rupert spiraling down a black hole never to be seen again. Please return to page 10 to start your quest over again. Rupert, you are a mad man, and I love it. I think Russell T. Davies may find his next Dr. Who living in Canada. Tim http://realitysandwich.wordpress.com On Jul 23, 2008, at 2:50 AM, Rupert wrote: I just used YouTube's new Annotations tool to create a little interactive videoblog story, created very quickly with my phone. Exciting that this kind of thing is possible so easily. You can only see it on YouTube - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQg_LCq_T8fmt=18 and I blogged it here http://twittervlog.tv/?p=268 Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] quality?
As my name was being bandied about here I thought I should join. As for quality and examples, let me refer you to the following: The revolution is very much on, but we are still in the early days. Never the less, let me direct you to a few examples (and these are only a few examples - this thing covers a very wide range. Its a bit like asking Gutenberg hey, lemme see what people are going to use this printing press for!) Anything and everything. But here's a start: http://www.rosenblumtv.com/video.shtml http://rosenblumtv.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/the-star-ledger-is-kicking-ass/ http://rosenblumtv.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/newspapers-to-video-3/ http://rosenblumtv.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/newspapers-to-video-2/ Just a very very small smattering If you are interested, there's lots more to look at Rosenblum [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Free iPhone site for your Vlog
Check out: http://www.episodic.comGive us your video feed and we'll give you an iPhone friendly site where your viewers can stream your content. I'm the founder of Episodic and we're building video publishing tools for folks like yourselves. We're currently accepting beta application for our platform, but in the meantime we've released this little iPhone utility that you may enjoy. Let me know if you have any issues. -noam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Free iPhone site for your Vlog
Cool idea. Is there a location where we can read the terms and services? http://www.DavidMeade.com On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Noam Lovinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out: http://www.episodic.comGive us your video feed and we'll give you an iPhone friendly site where your viewers can stream your content. I'm the founder of Episodic and we're building video publishing tools for folks like yourselves. We're currently accepting beta application for our platform, but in the meantime we've released this little iPhone utility that you may enjoy. Let me know if you have any issues. -noam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] Zadi and Steve of Epic Fu Keynote at New Media Expo
Just a note to let everyone know that Zadi and Steve from EpicFu.com will be one of the keynotes at the New Media Expo in Las Vegas in a few weeks. Sunny Gualt will be interviewing them. It's free - hope you can attend. Tim Bourquin http://www.NewMediaExpo.com
[videoblogging] Re: Free iPhone site for your Vlog
Great question. We'll put up ToS shortly, but generally we favor the publisher. Nothing will happen to you or your content without your consent. We currently don't put any advertising in the content and we don't plan to without the publisher's opt-in. -noam --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool idea. Is there a location where we can read the terms and services? http://www.DavidMeade.com On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Noam Lovinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out: http://www.episodic.comGive us your video feed and we'll give you an iPhone friendly site where your viewers can stream your content. I'm the founder of Episodic and we're building video publishing tools for folks like yourselves. We're currently accepting beta application for our platform, but in the meantime we've released this little iPhone utility that you may enjoy. Let me know if you have any issues. -noam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:50:54 AM, Rupert wrote: I just used YouTube's new Annotations tool to create a little interactive videoblog story, created very quickly with my phone. Exciting that this kind of thing is possible so easily. You can only see it on YouTube - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQg_LCq_T8fmt=18 Thoroughly delightful. An interactive Rupert Rant! -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
Rupurt, Congrats! I say it's about time someone did this! It's well-executed and simple enough that anyone I show this to will get it. I've been dreaming to try this myself too, since the days of reading Fighting Fantasy books, and playing games like Myst / Journeyman Project. We've really come a long way from seeing video as a mere distribution medium to a more hypertextual one. :) Kevin Lim Social Media Provocateur http://theory.isthereason.com This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private email locator: ╔╗╔═╦╗ ║╚╣║║╚╗ ╚═╩═╩═╝ On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:50:54 AM, Rupert wrote: I just used YouTube's new Annotations tool to create a little interactive videoblog story, created very quickly with my phone. Exciting that this kind of thing is possible so easily. You can only see it on YouTube - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQg_LCq_T8fmt=18 Thoroughly delightful. An interactive Rupert Rant! -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] xacti HD1000 Green MP4 fix
if anyone is having trouble with their Xacti HD1000 showing green mp4s i made a screencast on how to fix it. http://tinyurl.com/xactihd1000 mary matthews ran into this issue a couple times and we figured out how to fix it so i thought i'd share. cheers! -ryanne -- http://RyanIsHungry.com 508.380.2211 -- Personal: http://RyanEdit.com Current: http://ShowInaBox.tv Twitter: http://twitter.com/ryanne AIM: VideoRodeo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: lapel mic advice needed
On the other end of the money scale, good old Radio Shack has done OK in pinch with these $20 ones. http://www.radioshack.com/sm-hands-free-tie-clip-omnidirectional-electret--pi-2102927.html Although I'm curious if these are better, they have the all important 20' cable http://www.amazon.com/AUDIO-TECHNICA-ATR-35S-Audio-Technica-Microphone/dp/B6I51V/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1216847746sr=8-2 ~ ~ Caleb J. Clark ~ Portfolio: http://www.plocktau.com ~ The problem with communication is the assumption it has been accomplished. - G. B. Shaw. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] lapel mic advice needed
Somewhere around $600. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's your budget? :) Jan On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] deirdre.straughan%40gmail.com wrote: My job is increasingly about running around the world videotaping stuff for Sun, and I now have the opportunity to upgrade my kit (see http://blogs.sun.com/deirdre/entry/my_videoblogging_rig for what I currently have). I'd like to add a set of decent lapel mics, but need to strike a balance between quality and size/weight - I don't have a crew to carry equipment for me! Suggestions/experiences welcome. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan living travelling in Italy (and other Countries Beginning with I) www.beginningwithi.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan living travelling in Italy (and other Countries Beginning with I) www.beginningwithi.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
Love this! Great example of simple, effective storytelling. I'll be interested to see if the annotation tool changes the way people use video responses on YouTube. ~Tamara Tamara Krinsky SR. WRITER www.documentary.org HOST/PRODUCER - THE SPOTLIGHT www.TomsGuide.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [videoblogging] Why Obama rules online video
btw, if you wanna see the event check out http://designmind.frogdesign.com/events/obama-and-politics-documenting-history-in-real-time.html or http://tinyurl.com/6356dh noel On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 09:59, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amazing. I love the way that they understand the immediacy of it - getting it up there as it happens (19 minutes from shoot to post, in one case) And it's great that he wants to use this when he's president, to give access to otherwise closed meetings. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 18-Jul-08, at 7:13 AM, noel hidalgo wrote: jay, thanks for this snip. i too was at the presentation and the most important part of the presentation is stated in the first paragraph. (and also stated last night on CNN). if you want to dominate and be taken seriously, YOU must take this game seriously. if you look at the new media components from either side of the campaign, from the start Obama has used old school organizing with modern technology. from day one, Obama has had a smart and adaptable CTO who understands the power of concentric networks and has employed people with a diverse background. one part of the presentation that really stood out was the admission that the new media team comes from all walks of life. everyone was on board to do something unexpected, undocumented, unscripted and unproven. all in all, they came to explore their previous skills and pioneer the future. sage advice to all of us. On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 08:15, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/7/obama-s-video-guru-speaks-how- we-owned-the-youtube-primary Obama's biggest advantage, Chaudhary said, was that his organization took video seriously from the start. The campaign has 50 staffers shooting, editing and posting video, most of it for online. Where Clinton would have just one staffer videotaping an event in Iowa, Obama often had five to provide multiple camera angles. They posted new video constantly, and quickly -- 19 minutes from shoot to post, in one case. And they'd ping community voters via email to alert them to new video. Obama's YouTube and web site metrics show that his online viewers aren't pups. The average viewer is 45 to 55 years old, Chaudhary said, a fact he found shocking. And while Chaudhary made plenty of humorous clips, they weren't the most popular. Invariably the videos that got the most views were long clips of speeches, unscripted moments, or, say, an appearance on Ellen or Oprah. The viewing reflects a hunger not to be entertained, but to know something about the candidate. The technology was availble to do all of this, at this scale, four years ago. But it has taken this long for mainstream America to get comfortable with online video. Now that they are, Chaudhary says Obama speaks of continuing to use the medium if elected: He pictures online fireside chats, and posting video of internal debates on topics like healthcare. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] lapel mic advice needed
Back in the 70s and 80s Radio Shack has inexplicably not-sucky microphones for the money. Don't know if that still holds true. They did all tend to be a bit low in the output though. Never did do that crazy modification to turn my Radio Shack PZMs into something closer to the Crowns, but people did it, it was cheap, and got great results. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
