Re: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

2007-10-07 Thread Mark Shea
From my research, you can expect $1000-$400 per video for an online deal 
related to just one region (country ie not listing your videos on competitors 
sites.)



Mark Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I think the 
only company, in my neck of the woods that would have been in a similar 
position, would be lonely planet (who recently sold to BBC worldwide) who I 
know have struck up similar deals with particular websites.
 
 You could have a point about the three months thing. It allows me to pull out 
if a competitor makes a better offer.
 
 Did anyone see the Kevin Sites 'round the world's trouble spots' vlog yahoo 
funded? 
 
 Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 cents:
 
 - have a lawyer review it before you sign
 - a year is a very long time in my book; i would start at 3 months at
 a time (it protects both parties) especially considering the
 exclusivity of this deal
 - brand building is nice but it's not food
 - straight talk can really tease out ulterior motives - you probably
 get to start because they are used to having traditional media
 attorneys draft these things.
 
 have fun!
 
 rox
 
 On 10/4/07, Jen Simmons  wrote:
  Are they asking you to get EO (Error and Omission) insurance? What
  other costs might you have to deliver your content to them? Be sure
  to factor that in — EO costs a lot of $$$. Or better, insist they
  cover the EO / liabilities (for things like someone suing 'cause
  your video about dating features a guy who was cheating on his wife
  and his wife left him so now he blames your video...TV lawyers spend
  years dreaming up such crazy liabilities)
 
  jen
 
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[videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

2007-10-04 Thread caminofilm
Hi

I have a hypothetical question the wise heads here may be able to answer.

Lets say you travel around your country, producing short videos at
different locations. Lets say, market research (youtube) show that
your concept is extremely popular.

Lets say a local tv station contact you and want exclusive rights to
your videos, in your country, for one year, to list on there online
site. This means you can't list your videos on local sites that they
see as competition (other tv station sites, newspaper sites)

Lets say they ask you to name your price. 

If you have produced these videos with your own funds, and know that
to do them commercially would cost anything from $1500-$3000 per video

WHAT DO YOU CHARGE THE TV STATION TO LIST YOUR VIDEOS EXCLUSIVELY ON
THEIR SITE IN YOUR COUNTRY?

Do you charge all of what it would cost to make them commercially? Or
do you take into consideration the advertising revenue they may make
from your content over a year, and charge more...or less?

Or does one take into account that, due to this tv station being the
biggest in your country, the publicity in itself, will be beneficial
to your brand

Where is online video at? Can we get the money that we charge to do
commercial work?


I really need to know...and soon...hypothetically :)



RE: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

2007-10-04 Thread Kfir Pravda
I would do the following:
Charge for less than what it will cost them to produce it on their own, and 
push for a lot of ads and awareness for your brand. This way I is not worth for 
them to produce it on their own and you promote your brand.
You might be able to get some of their ads money, but you risk losing the deal. 


*sent from handheld

Kfir Pravda

-Original Message-
From: caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 04-Oct-07 8:34
Subject: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

Hi

I have a hypothetical question the wise heads here may be able to answer.

Lets say you travel around your country, producing short videos at
different locations. Lets say, market research (youtube) show that
your concept is extremely popular.

Lets say a local tv station contact you and want exclusive rights to
your videos, in your country, for one year, to list on there online
site. This means you can't list your videos on local sites that they
see as competition (other tv station sites, newspaper sites)

Lets say they ask you to name your price. 

If you have produced these videos with your own funds, and know that
to do them commercially would cost anything from $1500-$3000 per video

WHAT DO YOU CHARGE THE TV STATION TO LIST YOUR VIDEOS EXCLUSIVELY ON
THEIR SITE IN YOUR COUNTRY?

Do you charge all of what it would cost to make them commercially? Or
do you take into consideration the advertising revenue they may make
from your content over a year, and charge more...or less?

Or does one take into account that, due to this tv station being the
biggest in your country, the publicity in itself, will be beneficial
to your brand

Where is online video at? Can we get the money that we charge to do
commercial work?


I really need to know...and soon...hypothetically :)




RE: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

2007-10-04 Thread Mark Shea
thanks kfir for your reply

Hypothetically speaking, they are keen to see me happy, to continue providing 
them content. It really is a matter of having some idea of how much money they 
envisage making over the year nesting ads with my content.

But you are right, they are the biggest TV station in the country, the 
publicity for my brand will be huge!



Kfir Pravda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I would do 
the following:
 Charge for less than what it will cost them to produce it on their own, and 
push for a lot of ads and awareness for your brand. This way I is not worth for 
them to produce it on their own and you promote your brand.
 You might be able to get some of their ads money, but you risk losing the 
deal. 
 
 *sent from handheld
 
 Kfir Pravda
 
 -Original Message-
 From: caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: 04-Oct-07 8:34
 Subject: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info
 
 Hi
 
 I have a hypothetical question the wise heads here may be able to answer.
 
 Lets say you travel around your country, producing short videos at
 different locations. Lets say, market research (youtube) show that
 your concept is extremely popular.
 
 Lets say a local tv station contact you and want exclusive rights to
 your videos, in your country, for one year, to list on there online
 site. This means you can't list your videos on local sites that they
 see as competition (other tv station sites, newspaper sites)
 
 Lets say they ask you to name your price. 
 
 If you have produced these videos with your own funds, and know that
 to do them commercially would cost anything from $1500-$3000 per video
 
 WHAT DO YOU CHARGE THE TV STATION TO LIST YOUR VIDEOS EXCLUSIVELY ON
 THEIR SITE IN YOUR COUNTRY?
 
 Do you charge all of what it would cost to make them commercially? Or
 do you take into consideration the advertising revenue they may make
 from your content over a year, and charge more...or less?
 
 Or does one take into account that, due to this tv station being the
 biggest in your country, the publicity in itself, will be beneficial
 to your brand
 
 Where is online video at? Can we get the money that we charge to do
 commercial work?
 
 I really need to know...and soon...hypothetically :)
 
 
 
   

   
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RE: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

2007-10-04 Thread Kfir Pravda
As long as you limit the deal for a year, you can always open it and change the 
terms later. Assuming that they will make money from your videos, next round 
you can improve your position.

There is another option - maybe now you can ask  more money, if they are very 
eager to get your content. Only you know the answer, cause you are sitting with 
them and look them in the eye.

With the information you provided, I'd go with my first option.

*sent from handheld

Kfir Pravda

-Original Message-
From: Mark Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 04-Oct-07 9:51
Subject: RE: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

thanks kfir for your reply

Hypothetically speaking, they are keen to see me happy, to continue providing 
them content. It really is a matter of having some idea of how much money they 
envisage making over the year nesting ads with my content.

But you are right, they are the biggest TV station in the country, the 
publicity for my brand will be huge!



Kfir Pravda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I would do 
the following:
 Charge for less than what it will cost them to produce it on their own, and 
push for a lot of ads and awareness for your brand. This way I is not worth for 
them to produce it on their own and you promote your brand.
 You might be able to get some of their ads money, but you risk losing the 
deal. 
 
 *sent from handheld
 
 Kfir Pravda
 
 -Original Message-
 From: caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: 04-Oct-07 8:34
 Subject: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info
 
 Hi
 
 I have a hypothetical question the wise heads here may be able to answer.
 
 Lets say you travel around your country, producing short videos at
 different locations. Lets say, market research (youtube) show that
 your concept is extremely popular.
 
 Lets say a local tv station contact you and want exclusive rights to
 your videos, in your country, for one year, to list on there online
 site. This means you can't list your videos on local sites that they
 see as competition (other tv station sites, newspaper sites)
 
 Lets say they ask you to name your price. 
 
 If you have produced these videos with your own funds, and know that
 to do them commercially would cost anything from $1500-$3000 per video
 
 WHAT DO YOU CHARGE THE TV STATION TO LIST YOUR VIDEOS EXCLUSIVELY ON
 THEIR SITE IN YOUR COUNTRY?
 
 Do you charge all of what it would cost to make them commercially? Or
 do you take into consideration the advertising revenue they may make
 from your content over a year, and charge more...or less?
 
 Or does one take into account that, due to this tv station being the
 biggest in your country, the publicity in itself, will be beneficial
 to your brand
 
 Where is online video at? Can we get the money that we charge to do
 commercial work?
 
 I really need to know...and soon...hypothetically :)
 
 
 
   

   
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Re: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

2007-10-04 Thread Jen Simmons
Are they asking you to get EO (Error and Omission) insurance? What  
other costs might you have to deliver your content to them? Be sure  
to factor that in — EO costs a lot of $$$. Or better, insist they  
cover the EO / liabilities (for things like someone suing 'cause  
your video about dating features a guy who was cheating on his wife  
and his wife left him so now he blames your video...TV lawyers spend  
years dreaming up such crazy liabilities)

jen

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Re: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

2007-10-04 Thread Roxanne Darling
2 cents:

- have a lawyer review it before you sign
- a year is a very long time in my book; i would start at 3 months at
a time (it protects both parties) especially considering the
exclusivity of this deal
- brand building is nice but it's not food
- straight talk can really tease out ulterior motives - you probably
get to start because they are used to having traditional media
attorneys draft these things.

have fun!

rox

On 10/4/07, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are they asking you to get EO (Error and Omission) insurance? What
 other costs might you have to deliver your content to them? Be sure
 to factor that in — EO costs a lot of $$$. Or better, insist they
 cover the EO / liabilities (for things like someone suing 'cause
 your video about dating features a guy who was cheating on his wife
 and his wife left him so now he blames your video...TV lawyers spend
 years dreaming up such crazy liabilities)

 jen

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 http://milkweedmediadesign.com


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Re: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

2007-10-04 Thread Mark Shea
I have release forms for all interviewees and music used, but yes, things 
change, places close. If someone visits a place I recommend, and it is now 
closed, this could be an issue, but my hypothetical country isnt the USA, and 
(as yet) our legal system hasnt gone liability crazy, but it is interesting to 
see certain 'public places' restrict filming after Sept 11, and any filming 
done in a National Park (without permit) can incur a jail sentence or hefty fine

Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are they asking you to get EO (Error 
and Omission) insurance? What  
other costs might you have to deliver your content to them? Be sure  
to factor that in — EO costs a lot of $$$. Or better, insist they  
cover the EO / liabilities (for things like someone suing 'cause  
your video about dating features a guy who was cheating on his wife  
and his wife left him so now he blames your video...TV lawyers spend  
years dreaming up such crazy liabilities)

jen

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Re: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info

2007-10-04 Thread Mark Shea
I think the only company, in my neck of the woods that would have been in a 
similar position, would be lonely planet (who recently sold to BBC worldwide) 
who I know have struck up similar deals with particular websites.

You could have a point about the three months thing. It allows me to pull out 
if a competitor makes a better offer.

Did anyone see the Kevin Sites 'round the world's trouble spots' vlog yahoo 
funded? 

Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 cents:

- have a lawyer review it before you sign
- a year is a very long time in my book; i would start at 3 months at
a time (it protects both parties) especially considering the
exclusivity of this deal
- brand building is nice but it's not food
- straight talk can really tease out ulterior motives - you probably
get to start because they are used to having traditional media
attorneys draft these things.

have fun!

rox

On 10/4/07, Jen Simmons  wrote:
 Are they asking you to get EO (Error and Omission) insurance? What
 other costs might you have to deliver your content to them? Be sure
 to factor that in — EO costs a lot of $$$. Or better, insist they
 cover the EO / liabilities (for things like someone suing 'cause
 your video about dating features a guy who was cheating on his wife
 and his wife left him so now he blames your video...TV lawyers spend
 years dreaming up such crazy liabilities)

 jen

 Jen Simmons
 http://milkweedmediadesign.com


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808-384-5554
http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling

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http://www.barefeetstudios.com


 
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