Re: [videoblogging] Epiphany! Homepage/Webpage/Website (Was Re: Video Podcasting?)

2005-09-16 Thread Adam Quirk



On 9/16/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The irony is, most people who complain about this 'defining
of terms' are those who would indeed rant out against governing bodies
who force bullshit regulations and the broadcast networks force feeding
us bullshit news and entertainment content.  If you dont want to
eat that shit, why should you want to eat a nonsensical language that
you decided to not contribute to deifning yourself of the media
landscape that you enjoy?
Well, for me, because I got tired of the argument.  It's not that
I don't understand the merit of proper definition, in fact I hate when
words are used out of context or absent of meaning.  I just tried
to bow out of this one because I decided it wasn't worth my
effort.  I, and all the other videobloggers I know personally or
even remotely know, call it videoblogging.  If someone else wants
to call it PepsiPodding, fuck em.  We'll still be calling it
videoblogging, won't we?
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Q
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Re: [videoblogging] Epiphany! Homepage/Webpage/Website (Was Re: Video Podcasting?)

2005-09-16 Thread Michael Sullivan



This resulted because of millions of ignorant new people starting to use the Internet's 'WWWeb'.
The main point is, most of them were not publishers, just an online audience.

You obviously have a well-rounded mindset on all of this.  I take every point you make and know you speak truth.
You make valid points.  

My problem is, the culture is shifting and it's not all about the
audience and what terms work for them.  Its that EVERYONE can be a
PUBLISHER and millions are doing just that.
As a publisher, you should be educated and use the most proper terms to describe what you are doing. 
Secondly, we have publishers who are teachers.  A teacher should
definately be able to explain technology and thus the need for accurate
terminology.  Hell, curriculums are being formulated right now...
and eventually, every school will cover the ground we walk on. 
Using 'any term that works for you' is fine and dandy when all you
focus on 'just create'.  But their are people that see the
importance of terminology for the various benefits that it can
bring.  

Why i always pop in these discussions... and felt that early on, we
should work together to use the proper terms... is so an Ignorant
Audience together with Big Corporations and the News Media dont end up
creating the language for what we are doing as media publishers.  
People complain and say it doesnt matter... but it does.  And the
more examples we see of truly bad terminology evolving and being
accepted, the more people will start understanding how that can
suck.  The irony is, most people who complain about this 'defining
of terms' are those who would indeed rant out against governing bodies
who force bullshit regulations and the broadcast networks force feeding
us bullshit news and entertainment content.  If you dont want to
eat that shit, why should you want to eat a nonsensical language that
you decided to not contribute to deifning yourself of the media
landscape that you enjoy?

sullOn 9/16/05, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I just had an epiphany about nomenclature.Some of you might have experienced this back in the day. I know I did, and it drove mebatshit on a regular basis:Remember when people use the terms 'home page/web page/web site' interchangeably,
and as a result, used them incorrectly? And eventually, it all became a non-issue andlanguage either changed, became forgotten, or the actual content/product brand tookover?For example: buying things from Amazon, or eBay, or watching Rocketboom or Carol and
Steve. Or reading Slashdot. Or listening to Adam Curry. Or getting the hookup onMySpace? I'll be willing to bet everyone knows how to a) get to and consume the abovecontent and b) what format type of content it is.
I've yet to hear someone these days say something like, "Dude, did you see that kick-assHTML article posted on the CNN.com web page?"Welcome to nomenclature v.2, where verbs are the new __. ;-)
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Re: [videoblogging] Epiphany! Homepage/Webpage/Website (Was Re: Video Podcasting?)

2005-09-16 Thread Adam Quirk



 Yeah, the nomenclature thing is dead to me.  Here, and everywhere else for that matter.
Hmmm, what do you call it when you write something down about what happened today, and you do that on a regular basis?
Is it a journal?  A log?  A diary?
How long have people been doing that? Since 1660.
And there's still 3 terms for it.  Wait, blog, 4.
So I for one have given up with defining things and naming things.
Just make stuff, and when you're done making it, call it something.
Other people may call it something else, but fuck it, at least they've witnessed it.

By the way Check out my Video Home Page!

It's at h-t-m-l-colon-backslash-backslash-w-w-w-dot-bullemhead-dot-com!

Some news people still speak the http:// before giving out web addresses.

I heard someone on Fox 5 here in NYC say it the other day.

Heelarious.

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Q
bullemhead.comOn 9/16/05, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I just had an epiphany about nomenclature.

Some of you might have experienced this back in the day. I know I did, and it drove me 
batshit on a regular basis:

Remember when people use the terms 'home page/web page/web site' interchangeably, 
and as a result, used them incorrectly? And eventually, it all became a non-issue and 
language either changed, became forgotten, or the actual content/product brand took 
over?

For example: buying things from Amazon, or eBay, or watching Rocketboom or Carol and 
Steve. Or reading Slashdot. Or listening to Adam Curry. Or getting the hookup on 
MySpace? I'll be willing to bet everyone knows how to a) get to and consume the above 
content and b) what format type of content it is.

I've yet to hear someone these days say something like, "Dude, did you see that kick-ass 
HTML article posted on the CNN.com web page?"

Welcome to nomenclature v.2, where verbs are the new __. ;-)

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