Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Darby Orcutt
Maureen, Like many things, this comes down to very local and context-driven decision-making, in which you need to balance a LOT of considerations. I faced a request more than a decade ago for an extremely hardcore pornographic film that, after careful consideration, I declined. The faculty

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Poswencyk
What was the film? What kind of university was it? A Catholic one? What does extremely hardcore pornographic mean? I can see people worried about a public library (and I think that isn't good librarianship anyway) but a college? This is pure censorship and not good librarianship. Sorry to

[Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread dgurl...@soundviewmediapartners.com
This is a very interesting subject worth exploring, I feel, as there is a fine line that can become quite blurred in relation to what is porn and what is not. I find the subject of great interest as I am involved in two films that have, at times, become caught in the web if such discussions,

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Herfurth, Sharon
Um, whatever happened to “Freedom to View.” http://www.ala.org/vrt/professionalresources/vrtresources/freedomtoview Sharon Herfurth Office of Programs Partnerships Austin Public Library Austin, TX From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Catherine Lee
Hello All, I have been a lurker on this list for quite a while. I feel compelled to make a response now...to offer support for Darby and to express my appreciation for the thoughtful comments of Gisele and Darby in response to a legitimately challenging question by Maureen. Good librarianship

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Poswencyk
But it is. Besides, we don't even know what the film is! On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Catherine Lee catherinelee...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I have been a lurker on this list for quite a while. I feel compelled to make a response now...to offer support for Darby and to express my

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Darby Orcutt
Catherine, Thank you for your support, which I can only hope mirrors the majority of the videolib community. If it were unclear to anyone, I was addressing a real-life situation in which I was recognizing a need for my institution to: 1) comply with the law, and 2) adhere to our

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Dennis Doros
I have to say we had real discussions a few years ago with a very fine academic (and good friend) about releasing a DVD of historic pornography that was being taught in her course and other people's courses. I was really interested in it until the archivist holding the collection mentioned the

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Poswencyk
Darby, Please do not take my comments personally. I am truly sorry if I offended you but I stand by my comments. Of course you would not buy any child pornography. None of us would. I would still like to know the title. The professor had a good reason for using it so that makes it a

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Elizabeth McMahon
Darby, I noticed that your university has an undergraduate department in Women's and Gender Studies, and yet that you have no Barbara Hammer, Beth B., or Carolee Schneeman, to name the most prominent of queer filmmakers, whose films contain explicit sexual activity, and are as far from porn as

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Matt Ball
As usual, videolib provides a lively forum for discussion, and this one in particular is fascinating. But I must say, I'm quite disturbed by the vitriolic tone of some of the responses as well as the judging and the public bullying that Maureen and Darby are having to endure. Am I the only

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Sarah E. McCleskey
Hi Matt, You are not the only one! Best, Sarah Sarah E. McCleskey Head of Access Services, Film and Media 112 Axinn Library, 123 Hofstra University Hempstead, NY 11549 sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edumailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu 516-463-5076 (phone) 516-463-4309 (fax) From:

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Susan Albrecht
No, Matt, you are decidedly not alone. Stating opinions is one thing; attacking is another. It’s not open dialogue when someone is slammed and hit with flat-out judgments. Unless the goal is to get a videolib member to never post again, perhaps a gentler, more inquisitive approach would be

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Mark Pompelia
I'm a heretofore lurker on VIDEOLIB but must proclaim that I stand fully with Doug and Elizabeth and find it more dismaying that their insightful comments are being interpreted as vitriol and bullying. What part of Please don't take my comments personally. I am truly sorry if I offended you is

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Cristella Bond
Hi Matt, I'm feeling the same. Thanks for saying so. Cristella Bond Information Services Librarian Anderson Public Library 111 E. 12th Street Anderson, IN 46016 (765) 641-2456 -Original Message- From: Sarah E. McCleskey sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Poswencyk
BULLSHIT I did not attack Darby or Maureen personally. I attacked what they did. What they said. They were wrong. If you don't want to have discussions then don't bother hanging around here. You Matt are attacking me and I am sure you would not have the balls to say that to my face. I

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Anthony Anderson
I am not sure that I could agree with the thesis that librarians are “the worst of censors” and “do it all the time.” This may be often the case in certain politically repressive cultures (North Korea?) but I don’t believe that it is necessary the standard norm in American academic libraries.

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Poswencyk
Censorship is subjective? I just thought that we don't do it. I thought as librarians we are totally against it. And yes there are many librarians who do it. Why? because they are afraid. They don't want to ruffle any feathers. Or they let a select few control them. Or only worry about

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Poswencyk
Or child pornography. There are laws but more importantly morals that prevent us from doing this I don't know of any snuff films. The film that came out several years ago was s hoax. Many of the films we are talking about here aren't even x rated. On Nov 17, 2014 2:43 PM, Dennis Doros

Re: [Videolib] pornographic films in the Library collection?

2014-11-17 Thread Gisele Genevieve Tanasse
Well, despite being an early initial responder, I'm playing catch up at this stage in the game (it was a busy day in Berkeley). I am very grateful that my budget, administration and clientele have allowed for a great amount of autonomy in curatorial decisions. That said, I have received some