Re: Re: Royal College Dias

2005-06-08 Thread Alexander Batov
Martyn Hodgson wrote (Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:39 PM): Further to this, I forgot to mention that I do so agree with you that was clearly a continuum of instruments between the 'classical' 16thC vihuela (whatever that was - will we ever know in view of the irritating lack of Spanish iconography)

RE: Royal College Dias

2005-06-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Hi Martin, I admit that my comments had nothing to do with your current debate. And the 'angry and argumentative' part was not directed at you. Just take a look at Stephen Barber's website for an example of what I was referring to. Ditto Corona's comments on the lute list. Nor was I trying to

RE: Royal College Dias

2005-06-08 Thread Edward Martin
Dear Rob and Martyn, Yes, I agree. This vihuela list has not been argumentative, but in the past there has been some heated discussion of appropriate instrumentation for vihuelas. One could compare this to lutes. I have heard some fantastic lutes, that were not exact replicas of an

FW: Royal College Dias

2005-06-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
This just arrived. Now you all know what I mean. Nuff said. Rob -Original Message- From: Stephen Barber Sandi Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 June 2005 18:11 To: Rob MacKillop Subject: RE: Royal College Dias Rob, whilst I'm sure you're having enormous fun with all of this,

Dedillo

2005-06-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Martyn sent me this: To get back to the Vihuela, - do you know anyone who plays dedillo (I think that's the term)? ie running passages played with index alone: I've tried, and failed - dismally. Thanks and rgds Martyn I sympathise with Martyn. Dedillo can sound awful, and I have to say I

RE: Dedillo

2005-06-08 Thread Dante Rosati
Hi- my theory is that dedillo was used first because it is what you do when you are used to playing with a plectrum and decide to try fingers. That way, the thumb is held against the index finger as if you are holding a pick, but then you use the index finger tip instead of the pick that could be

Re: Royal College Dias

2005-06-08 Thread Thomas Schall
Dear all, I fully support Ed's view, which is the view of a practioner (is there such a word in english?). I also understand Martyn's point. While it's of no importance for a player if the instrument is historically correct (if the repertoire is appropriatly reproduceable on it). On the other

RE: Dedillo

2005-06-08 Thread Garry Bryan
Interesting topic! So you want to know how to play dedillo? :) If you live in the U.S., just go to a good Mexican restaurant with a good Mariachi band. I was in a local restaurant a few months ago and the duo who was serenading the patrons had stopped at our table. I observed that the one

RE: Dedillo

2005-06-08 Thread bill kilpatrick
never heard of it before - thanks a lot. just tried it - as described by dante - on the charango and it worked very nicely in conjunction with rasgueo. sort of an acoustic reverb. - bill --- Dante Rosati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi- my theory is that dedillo was used first because it

Re: Dedillo

2005-06-08 Thread Edward Martin
This is an interesting point. I have never heard anyone perform the dedillo successfully, with the exception of Ronn McFarlane, who (if my memory serves me correctly) used it on some Milan pieces in an older solo CD of his. Other than that, I know of nobody who now uses it. ed At 09:49 PM

Re: Dedillo

2005-06-08 Thread James A Stimson
Dear Ed, Rob and All: Isn't all Indian sitar playing dedillo? That is, I believe the strings are plucked exclusively with the right-hand index finger, onto which is fitted a pointed wire loop, which serves as a plectrum. (Shades of Francesco's silver thimbles!) There must be somebody out

Re: Dedillo/redobles

2005-06-08 Thread bill kilpatrick
is dedillo the same as redobles - fast, single line passage(s)? one could work up a good sized blister on the end of your finger doing this - real quick. a pick is so much better. - bill --- James A Stimson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Ed, Rob and All: Isn't all Indian sitar