bill kilpatrick wrote:
re: the viola like instrument illustrated here:
http://www.anselmus.ch/images/icon_dai_libri.jpg
strummers 'n pluckers ... stringfellows all ... isn't
it also called a puertorican cuatro?
it would seem that the line separating vihuela from
guitar becomes more indistinct
At 03:35 AM 11/2/2005, bill kilpatrick wrote:
it would seem that the line separating vihuela from
guitar becomes more indistinct with each quoted,
historical source. tunings are adaptable to both; the
repertoire is easily shared; number of courses during
its development are variable; decorative
and don't necessarily have anything at all to do with willful efforts to
perpetuate an ugly, elitist Eurocentric bias.
Are you trying to say that american farmed catfish is philosophically equal
to mediterranean red mullet??
RT
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bill kilpatrick wrote:
--- Garry Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, not exactly. The one thing you still have yet
to get past is:
The Charango , with its 5 courses, cannot play the
repertoire written in
the early to mid 16th century for a 6 course
Vihuela de mano without
omitting one of
bill kilpatrick wrote:
do you mean to infer that repertoire is the deciding
factor?
The word you're looking for is imply, and I'd say the answer to your
question is no. Garry was not implying, but rather assuming, that an
instrument useless for playing vihuela music is not a vihuela. That
--- Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That line becomes indistinct only if you
intentionally select the quotes
that makes it appear so.
selective quotation works both ways.
The concepts to which such names applied may have
changed over time and across boundaries, but any
bill kilpatrick wrote:
i don't
think i'll ever get you to acknowledge the historic
validity of my cute little chordaphone of choice
Nobody here has said that the charango doesn't have historical
validity, although we do have one crank on the list who seems to have
such a low opinion of
bill kilpatrick wrote:
playing this music on a charango - or ukulele
if it comes to that - is not useless. nor are single
voice melodies from more complex compositions played
on whatever comes to hand.
My point is that if you can't play vihuela music on it, it's not a
vihuela. This is
--- Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nobody here has said that the charango doesn't have
historical
validity, although we do have one crank on the list
who seems to have
such a low opinion of the charango's position in the
musical world that
he keeps insisting that it's the
Professor John Griffiths is widely recognised as one of the top two or
three
academics specialising in the vihuela. I have just received this from him.
Rob
''The Dias copy is an excellent choice. I know it's controversial, but I
have found a heap of documentation on vihuelas that has not
At 10:33 AM 11/2/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote:
and don't necessarily have anything at all to do with willful efforts to
perpetuate an ugly, elitist Eurocentric bias.
Are you trying to say that american farmed catfish is philosophically
equal to mediterranean red mullet??
It's all a matter of
Rob MacKillop wrote:
That is a beautiful instrument, Stuart. I would LOVE to a have a copy. It
was on the cover of Early Music magazine some months ago. I fell in love
with it then. Alexander Batov considered making a copy, but I don't have the
cash. BTW, Alexander is a viol maker also. I would
bill kilpatrick wrote:
crank? ... pummeling the baroque guitar supporters?
... wuffing up the renaissance guitar list? ... crank,
(something) and wanton wiles? ...
calm down.
I'm perfectly calm, I assure you. I said you were a crank because you
fit the dictionary definition. The other
At 12:23 PM 11/2/2005, bill kilpatrick wrote:
as with the europeans in south america who referred to
their instruments as vihuelas. on what basis do
musicologists today justify their reclassification of
the instrument and say they - the south americans -
were wrong?
I'm not sure what you mean
At 01:40 PM 11/2/2005, bill kilpatrick wrote:
outside of honolulu, is there a recognized repertoire
for the renaissance guitar?
Mudarra, Morlaye, Le Roy, etc.
Eugene
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--- Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you are simply
asking me to accept that the word Art means whatever
you wish it to
mean; but I do not accept it.
point taken. i like stoppard's plays as well. i
don't like being called a crank but being considered
as eccentric, ... not
I wonder how big you think the thing is?
The modern reproduction looks like a G- or maybe A-tuned instrument.
But Giralamo's instrument in the painting looks much smaller.
I have no idea. I guess you could have one made to any size you wanted. For
my large hands, I prefer a G instrument. But
One for the purists:
I have recorded on vihuela three of Roman Turovsky's beautiful and simple
arrangements of Ukrainian folk music:
http://www.polyhymnion.org/torban/sarmaticae.html Scroll down to near the
bottom of the page.
Free music and free scores...what is the world coming to?!
Rob
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