Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread the pickle
At 21:03 -0700 on 19/05/02, James A. Reible wrote: >Would an IDE drive partitioned into three chunks count as 'multiple devices'? No. the pickle FAQ Software Archive

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread James A. Reible
At 16:19 -040005/19/2002, Scott Holder wrote; > >Well, my 6500 doesn't support multiple IDE devices, so I doubt a 6400 does. Would an IDE drive partitioned into three chunks count as 'multiple devices'? I've been unable to get the 9.1 update to run on any of the three partitions on my 6400, it

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Teri Pittman
>There isn't a way to bypass the edge connector* >for the SCSI on those Macs. You'd be better off >getting a DB25M to CEN50M SCSI cable then finding >an external SCSI case with the normal internal >SCSI and power connections. Then you can pull the >adaptor off the drive and connect it to the exte

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Teri Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which I would do, except that these are in all in > one cases. It looks like > I'll have to take out the sled that holds the > motherboard, to even get to > the cables. It doesn't look like a quick & easy job > *grin*! I'll play > around with it a

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread the pickle
At 14:12 -0800 on 19/05/02, Teri Pittman wrote: >Which I would do, except that these are in all in one cases. It looks like >I'll have to take out the sled that holds the motherboard, to even get to You can just pull the drive and then remove the connectors and hook it up in another Mac that *i

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Teri Pittman
> >That is simply an adaptor plugged onto the SCSI and >power connectors of the drive. A bit of careful >prying will have it off there. Most drives use a >standardized placement of the SCSI and power >connectors so the adaptor will fit other drives. Which I would do, except that these are in all

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Scott Holder
At 04:03 PM 5/19/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Correct about SCSI. First AIOs to use IDE were the 58x series. > >First Mac to support multiple IDE devices was the 6400, I think. I know >the beige G3s did. > >the pickle Well, my 6500 doesn't support multiple IDE devices, so I doubt a 6400 does. I don

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread the pickle
At 15:28 -0400 on 19/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: >At 12:23 PM 5/19/2002 -0700, you wrote: >>*Thinking outloud here...* Are the HD's IDE? If so, can you "daisy chain" >>the 2 HD's (I'm thinking of the PC towers here), and use the bootable HD as >>the main one? Those cable should be pretty cheap.

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread the pickle
At 11:59 -0700 on 19/05/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: >Do your 520s have caddy or tray load CD-ROM drives? >Manual or auto inject floppy drives? Probably caddy and auto-inject, since even the 550s seem to have mostly had caddy and auto-inject and they were later models. >If the one has At-Ease inst

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Teri Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It > plugs into the drive > cable using a slot type (rather than a pin type). > I'm not sure I can find > a cable that will plug into it. That is simply an adaptor plugged onto the SCSI and power connectors of the drive. A bit of careful pryi

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Teri Pittman
> >Do your 520s have caddy or tray load CD-ROM drives? >Manual or auto inject floppy drives? Caddy CD with auto eject floppies. > >If the one has At-Ease installed, you may be able >to bypass it by changing the SCSI ID and connecting >it to another Mac so it's not the boot drive. >Also try disco

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Scott Holder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe the 520s are SCSI. And, I don't believe > any of the IDE Macs > supported more than one device on a controller until > the Blue and White G3. Yes, they're SCSI. The B revision Beige G3 supported dual IDE devices on each controller port. So

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Steven
OK, interesting trivia. Now I know. It was just a wild guess > I believe the 520s are SCSI. And, I don't believe any of the IDE Macs > supported more than one device on a controller until the Blue and White G3. > > Scott Holder > -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and..

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Scott Holder
At 12:23 PM 5/19/2002 -0700, you wrote: >*Thinking outloud here...* Are the HD's IDE? If so, can you "daisy chain" >the 2 HD's (I'm thinking of the PC towers here), and use the bootable HD as >the main one? Those cable should be pretty cheap. They come free with a >purchase of a new HD I belie

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Steven
> If the one has At-Ease installed, you may be able > to bypass it by changing the SCSI ID and connecting > it to another Mac so it's not the boot drive. > Also try disconnecting the drive and doing a PRAM zap > then boot from a floppy so you can have a look at > how much RAM it has. > Another opt

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Gregg Eshelman
The LC 520 is pretty much an all in one version of the LC III. They can be upgraded to an LC 550 (boost up to 33Mhz from 25Mhz) or an LC 575 (with an 040 CPU) simply by swapping in the different logic boards. Do your 520s have caddy or tray load CD-ROM drives? Manual or auto inject floppy drives?

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Teri Pittman
At 10:57 AM 05/19/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Have you thought about asking the youth camp for the password? I'm sure if >you told them of your situation, they would comply. Well, I actually got these through a guy who got them from who-knows-where. I can check with him, but I'm figuring worse c

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread the pickle
At 10:31 -0700 on 19/05/02, Teri Pittman wrote: >until logged in. Am I stuck just reinstalling the OS? Or will I >completely have to reformat the drive to clear it? Right now, I'd just Probably, yes. You may have to pull the drive, set it up as an external, and use a different Mac to format

Re: network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Steven
> all except one. This one has any keyboard sequence disabled on bootup. It > doesn't seem to want to use a floppy, as it spits them out. I can't get to > the finder without using an admin password (which I don't have). I suspect > this may have been the server. Have you thought about asking t

network admin help needed

2002-05-19 Thread Teri Pittman
I picked up 10 LC520s yesterday. Very nice machines. These seem to have been used at a youth camp. Most of them are set up for a network. I was able to boot up with extensions disabled and take off the network stuff on all except one. This one has any keyboard sequence disabled on bootup. It