RE: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

This has already been addressed in iOS 11.1 and the rotor behaviour is now back to what it was all along. From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 4:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Sieghard, Ever since I began reading mail on an ipod, I have actually started by opening a message and flicking up with two fingers to read from the cursor position. This was often exactly where I wanted to be. If not, after positioning the first message, this has worked consistently for me.

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

I do think Apple needs to think this one over a little more. I think that it could be a good feature *if* the current action is spoken a little sooner than at the very end of the utterance. Either that, or make it to where one can swipe up to the action they want, double tap with two fingers,

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

nope I use the outlook app on my iPod Touch. I always check where my rotor is. as for giving feedback if Apple didn't want feedback on how to improve their products I don't think the public beta program would exist. Maria Reyes Owner of the following groups: Apple 411:

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Hi, Thank you Mary I could not have said this better than you did. And were it consistent across the entirety of the os’s landscape that’d be one thing but it is not. as another poster pointed out this used to be behavior in app switcher and now is the reverse there which for me just adds to

RE: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Maria, It’s interesting how my message where I thought I presented a fairly well thoughtout argument for why this should be put back the way it was gets labelled as “bashing a feature”. When iOS 11 first came out almost everybody who posted about this complained that this was a bug, only when

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Why does the blind community whine so much about this stuff? Is it inconsistant? yes. Should they fix it? yes. They shouldn't really take the feature. I would have to agree with Aliha. Bashing the feature isn't ok. I use microsoft Outlook and after marking a message as read VoiceOver says

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Hello everyone, having the router default to deleting messages is most unproductive. How is it productive to have all your messages deleted you will have to find a way to get all your messages back again if it turns out it deleted all your messages how is that productive question Sent from my

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

They have to keep in mind that many blind people around the world use Apple products for their business needs, and that's quite big reason why they should think about accessibility, not on productivity only. And one more important think, they need to pay attention which parts of the code make

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Hello all, we already have one way of mass deleting messages. The rotor should stay consistent. Personally, I like for her to switch back to the default have activate after you have used it. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > >

RE: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Thanks, Ryan, it has absolutely nothing to do with attacking anybody. People who know me from this list also know that while I’m a Windows user, I am a very big Apple fan when it comes to iOS devices, the Apple TV and the Apple Watch. I am the first to point out that Apple has done great things

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

I don’t feel like this is attacking Apple. I am on a few different mailing lists and it now takes me longer to go through these messages. I’ve also accidently deleted a few messages because the rotor was set to Delete when it should have been set to Activate. Either Activate is the default

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

+759000!!! Software changes. Hardware changes. That is the nature of it. In this case, I agree with the change. But whether or not I agree with that is he relevant. And as a trainer, I need to prepare people for change and teach them how to think for themselves. >From

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Why are we attacking Apple here? They are trying to make a good thing. and, as you are a beta tester, you will have noticed that the app switcher has been fixed and does behave like iOS 10. Honestly, it feels like folks just don't like change. Do you really think sighted people don't deal with

RE: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Aleeha, think of it this way: when iOS 11 was first released everybody considered it a bug and it adds nothing to productivity. If you really have a bunch of emails to delete tap the edit button and you can mark messages to your heart content, in any case, doing a quick flick up before a double

RE: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Hi Alida, I consider myself to be a power user and certainly Jonathan Mosen and others on his beta list are, but nobody there wants this. This does not improve productivity, it makes thing difficult and any trainers who teach people how to use iOS now need to make sure they include a lesson on

RE: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

If you had read my message to the end you would have read that I don’t normally want to talk about the public beta, but I did in this case. I am on the beta and have 11.1 installed and there is no fix because according to Apple this is not a bug but it is normal behaviour because they changed it

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Hi Carol, Currently, in iOS 11, the behavior of the actions rotor has changed for Mail. It used to be that, when you flicked up or down to an action in Mail and then activated it, for example deleting an email, the rotor would return to the default option of activate, when focused on the next

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

I’m sorry, I have probably missed a message or two somewhere… I am not sure exactly what you are meaning here. What is wrong with it? I will certainly report it if I can find it to be true, but I have no idea quite what’s happening! :-) Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 29 Sep

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

I agree with you, Mary, that should be fixed. But bashing the feature altogether is not OK. Let’s fix the bug, not complain until it returns to the old way. I, for one, would like this thing to work. I’ve actually found, in the latest beta, that it’s getting better. Aleeha > On Sep 29, 2017,

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

It could theoretically be a great change for productivity if it were 100% consistent. It isn't. It's a disaster. It makes you keep checking and rechecking which makes the use of the mail app quite less efficient than it used to be. The word default ought to mean something. Mary Sent from my

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Guys, Personally, I think this is a great addition to productivity. Yes, it’s a change that we must get used to, but I think it would make the power users of mail very happy. Now, they do need to solve some consistency issues, but I personally like it. It behaves as the app switcher did in iOS

RE: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Hi Sieghard, Thanks for posting this. I forwarded it to apple along with my comments. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Please join me in

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Hello, Sign up for the public beta and you may see a fix to this issue. Thanks. On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:00 PM matthew dyer wrote: > Hi, > > I not only forwarded this, but have added my thoughts to them regarding > this as well. > > Matthew > > > On Sep 29,

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Hi, I not only forwarded this, but have added my thoughts to them regarding this as well. Matthew > On Sep 29, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > Hello List, > > There has been a fair bit of discussion on a change Apple has implemented in > the Mail app

Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

Hello List, There has been a fair bit of discussion on a change Apple has implemented in the Mail app whenit comes to using the rotor to delete messages. In the past and ever since Apple has introduced rotor actions, a marvellous invention, the behaviour of the rotor has been quite consistent.