Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Thank you mike and everyone else for your info, experiences providing links etc. It all has been useful knowledge in obtaining. I'm truly greatful for the Mac and iPhone Google groups because everyone helps out each other and while they can get rather busy sometimes, that is also a

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Most likely the battery in the iphone 8 is larger, I don't think leaving it plugged in caused a problem. When lithium batteries are charged, the charging circuit completely turns off, it does not go in to a trickle charge mode. Here is some information on how charging lithium ion batteries

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Usually the battery swelling issue was caused by the separator getting punctured within the battery itself. When this happens, a short circuit was created. This could also happen if a charger tries to overcharge a battery but most lithium ion batteries also have a safety circuit that will shut

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Phones have been using this battery type at least since the first iphone, at least 10 years. They are also used in laptops. > On Jan 12, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > > That sounds great! How long have we been using lithium Ion for now compared > to the

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

This happened to me on the iPhone 5 my employer provided me, and I most definitely did not leave it on the charger all of the time. I know this is anecdotal but I don't think a swelling battery has anything to do with whether you leave your phone charging or not, but it's probably more likely

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

And here in Mexico, it’s Virgen. And speaking of upgrades on iPhones, Telcel (in the US., it’s Straitalk, or when a Telcel customer goes over there, the phome’s Network status says T Mobil), Telcel too has post-paid plans in which you get phones at reduced prices: this 5s for instance, in

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Okay first off leasing is possible yes. You just trade it end at the end of the year and get the next device. Secondly If I buy a budget android phone at $150 and I get a year or two out of it that's a plus. I could just buy the next version by then still saving a lot of cash I would have spent on

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No offense Victor, but that $150 Android phone from China may sound like it has similar hardware, but there is a reason why the iPhone still blows away even the high-end Android phones in most speed tests and they nowadays cost just as much an most iPhones. But I agree that it is tempting and

RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

It means "Mobil Virtual Network Operator". These are companies like Koodo, Virgin or Fido here in Canada who are mobil carriers, but they don't have their own networks/infrastructure but lease wireless telephone and data services from Bell, Roger and Telus. Unfortunately here in Canada each of

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Robin,, I noticed you used the same term in your message as Sieghard did, "MVNO". What does that term mean? Victor -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Sieghard, Android just wasn't in my comfort zone at that time two years ago. I had tried a phone running Android 2.2, and that turned me off, then when I tried Android 4.4, Talkback had made great strides in getting better than Android 2.2, but again, the accessibility just wasn't as good as

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Hi, No worries that's why I included a laugh in parentheses in lieu of an emoticon. I'm just glad there are many choices to suit different circumstances and tastes. MBNO's, prepaid plans, lease like or payment plan type contracts or the ability to not succumb to the latest and greatest.

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Hi Victor, But what has your plan to do with Android? I have my $49 plan from Koodo which of course I was only able to get if I brought a device, but it makes no difference if said device is an iPhone or Android phone. I was on a Telus plan before and had a locked Telus phone, the interesting

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Robin, didn't mean to offer any offence, I honestly thought there was some leasing plan offered by the manufacturer that allowed you to lease your phone for a certain amount every month, then upgrade when a new iteration of your device was released, sort of like I had wish that Window eyes

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Hi, Goodness gracious me I wasn't aware I'd walked into a pop quiz on semantics this night (laughs). While it's true there are early termination fees with these perhaps more aptly termed plans or contracts as you say since I hadn't plans to switch carriers or the like they work for me. This

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Those are not leases, those are commitments and usually go with plans. I was under the impression these device leases were separate from the plan, and one gets to upgrade every year or new release, which ever comes first. What you describe is no different from the contracts currently offered

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Hi, It is through my carrier Many of the carriers in the USA offer plans whereby you can make monthly payments and either upgrade after 12 or 24 months. Robin -Original Message- From: Victor Gouveia Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

I do the same thing from T-Mobile I just ended up paying off my IPhone though. My next couple devices I might just switch up each year. It really depends on how much I like whatever phone I get next. I don't over think the price because if I truly had to buy it out in one go, I would probably just

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Robin, is this leasing plan from the manufacturer or the carrier? Victor -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi, Hardly (laughs). I just use one of the

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Hi, Hardly (laughs). I just use one of the plans that let you lease as it were the device and upgrade annually so I don't have to pay anything up front and never in fact reach paying the entire cost of one before trading it in (smile). If I win the lottery I'll buy you an iPhone annually if

RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Hey Robin, a new iPhone every year, you must be loaded, how about you buy me an iPhone X, 256 Gb please *smile* -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:27 PM To:

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

Hi, While I don't dispute that which was said by an employee of Apple I have to say I have an iPhone here that spends most of its life on its charger as it's my beta testing unit and for the past 18 months it's had not one single problem or displayed any evidence of swelling. I should also

RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

And of course, a single person's experience proves nothing either way when answering a question such as this. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 6:12 PM To:

RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

As Sieghard mentioned re the Samsung Note 7, what could have caused it was a flaw in the design or the quality of the battery which was supplied. I am not sure which was the real cause in the Samsung incident, but it happene inspite of using Lithium batteries, not because of (with your iPods I

RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

I think the very first iPhone was using Lithium batteries, and by then most rechargables, so perhaps 10 yearss? Has it been that long since the iPhone was introduced? Chip -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

This actually happened with two of my iPods, one was a 5 generation and one was a 6, I had the 6th generation one fixed, but not the 5th generation. I had them both plugged up most of the time and the tech said that it was me keeping the device plugged up all the time that was the problem. Why

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

technically this is not a battery question but connected. I bought an ankor charger when I had my iPhone 7. It was about as big as a candy bar. If I didn't use it to charge my 7 during the day, I left it plugged in (only because I usually forgot to take it out). When I got my 8 Plus I began to

RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

My laptop is always plugged in since I rarely use it away from the house and the same was true with my previousl laptop and even after over 5 years it still holds a decent charge when I do unplug it. As other said, modern batteries can handle this easily and the problem with the battery that

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

That sounds great! How long have we been using lithium Ion for now compared to the other type of battery mike mentioned? > On 12 Jan 2018, at 20:15, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with lithium ion > batteries, when the

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with lithium ion batteries, when the battery is charged, the charging circuit turns off, there is no such thing as a trickle charge for these kinds of batteries, so leaving it connected to a charger should be fine. Original message:

RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

No, not with lithium batteries and sophisticated chargers of today ... they don't even start charging until your battery to depleted down to a preset level to avoid this very issue ... the phone will just operate off of the charger's power if the battery is above the preset threshhold for

Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

I left an iPod on to charge all the time and it caused the battery to swlel to the point that the device came totally apart, the front detached from the back. When I had it fixed, the tech person said it is not recommended to leave any device like that plugged in all of the time. So now, I make