RE: Touch ID question

[Richard Turner]

I believe you have to have both.
But, see if you can set up a fingerprint without a Passcode.
I only need my passcode when I reboot or turn on the phone after it has been 
off.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Amaro
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Touch ID question

Hello Listers,

I have an iPhone sE 2020,  I am wondering, can you use the finger print on its 
own or do you also have to enable the numeric passcode?

Thanks
Michael
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Re: iOS 13.5 is NOT released.

[Davy Cuppens]

Kelly

I am sorry but there is no need to be afraid to talk about public betas as 
Apple itselves is spreading them to the public just to prevent bugs.
Kayman is a betatester and maybe he is afraid to tell us but by telling us 
ios13.5 is out, he admitted he is one but he does not commit a crime with 
saying this. It is good that there are testers like Kayman on this list.

davy

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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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It is not general release software yet. The list rules do not allow
for discussion of beta software or operating systems. It angers Apple
greatly.

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On 5/19/20, deidre muccio  wrote:

I don't know how  the beta testing works, andI hope this time around that
the dictation functions with and without Siri, editing and writing 
functions
and the rotor are manually not strictly with Bluetooth or braille 
keyboards

are thoroughly tested in all kinds of apps from Safari to   various mail
programs and so onin regard to these sorts of things I find voiceover very
inconsistent. some of the old dictation corks are also still there such as
when you dictate a message it puts the sameline in numerous times. Part of
that may have to do with dictation  being designed to only take a few 
lines
of textDdictated in a mail message or text message. That's my guess 
anyway.

i'm wondering if the rotor and 13.4.1 is also designed to be used
differently because it no longer functions the way it once did. And it's 
not

accurate where it says it it is when you just turned it to words maybe you
get lines and when you try and… it's it's crazy.
is there a typical length of time in which this testing goes on?Who
qualifies as a beta Who qualifies as a beta tester? Someone who knows the
iOS inside out I would imagine. Many of you are  very good at that.
I have nothing to lose by updating the new SE with any new update  since I
find these functions have been greatly impacted negatively in 13 4.1 and
wont update the 6S which is functioning better to even 13.4.1. i'm pretty
tired of what I'll just call the cursor putting things where it's not
actually saying it is like the D as the first letter of my name which I
typed in followed by the other characters which ones up at the end of the
word for some reason. And other things like that continually happen.
my new keyboard hasn't arrived yet but Kayce did. So it's definitely not 
the

same size as Son a normal desktop PC keyboard but that doesn't necessarily
indicate how big the keys are going to be. I haven't measured those on my
desktop and thank you Richard for doing that on yours. But I'm sure I'll 
be
quite happy with it. I see that a logitech 500 is also out, I hadn't 
noticed

that when I purchased the 480. That's new or been out there for a while
already. I didn't bother to look at the specs since I already purchased a
keyboard.

deidre




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Applevis blog about iOS 13.5

[Richard Turner]

Apple Releases iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 With Exposure Notification API and Face 
Mask Detection for Face ID

Submitted by AppleVis on 20 May, 2020
[Member of the AppleVis Editorial 
Team]

Apple has today released iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 to the public, with Exposure 
Notification API, faster Face ID unlocking when wearing a face mask, a new 
option to automatically share selected health data with emergency services, and 
more.

Bug Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5

Our testing suggests that the following pre-existing accessibility bugs have 
been resolved in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5:
·Temporary banners now correctly disappear after a few 
seconds.
·VoiceOver no longer wrongly reports some blocks of text as being 
editable text 
fields.
·Apple appears to have made some improvements to the bug which 
prevented websites from inverting colors when both Dark Mode and Smart Invert 
are 
enabled.
 Our testing suggests that there are still instances when websites will not 
invert.

At the time of writing, we are unaware of any new bugs for blind or low vision 
users in today's releases. However, as we always stress, we can make no claims 
on the completeness or accuracy of our testing. We are only a small team, and 
it is simply impossible for us to test all devices, configurations, 
applications, and use cases. Accordingly, to help us ensure that the 
information on this page is as complete and accurate as possible, please let us 
know in the comments of any fixes; enhancements; or regressions that you find 
in your own use of iOS 13.5 or iPadOS 13.5.

General Changes in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5
·iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 include Apple and Google’s new Exposure 
Notification API for COVID-19 contact tracing: Take a first look at Apple and 
Google's ambitious new COVID-19 contact tracing technology that will send you a 
notification if you were near someone who has the 
coronavirus
·Face ID can now detect if you’re wearing a mask and skip directly to 
the passcode screen if so: Apple wants to make Face ID work better with your 
face mask. Here's what we 
know
·You can now opt to have selected information from the Health app 
automatically shared with emergency services when making an emergency call: New 
iPhone iOS 13.5 update could save your life — here's 
how
·There is a new setting in the FaceTime app that allows you to disable 
the automatic enlargement of the active speaker's video window: Busy Group 
FaceTime call? iOS 13.5 lets you turn off automatic face 
zooming
·A new option is available to share songs, albums, and playlists to 
Facebook and Instagram Stories: HOW TO Share Apple Music Songs in Your 
Instagram & Facebook 
Stories

According to 
MacRumors,
 iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 also patch two security vulnerabilities that affect 
the Mail app on the ‌iPhone‌ and the ‌iPad‌:

One vulnerability allowed an attacker to remotely infect an iOS device by 
sending emails that consume a significant amount of memory, while another 
allowed remote code executions.

Release Notes

Apple's full release notes for iOS 13.5 are as follows:

iOS 13.5 speeds up access to the passcode field on devices with Face ID when 
you are wearing a face mask and introduces the Exposure Notification API to 
support COVID-19 contact tracing apps from public health authorities. This 
update also introduces an option to control automatic prominence of video tiles 
on Group FaceTime calls and includes bug fixes and other improvements.

Note that iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 were initially released as iOS 13.4.5 beta 
and iPadOS 13.4.5 beta, but when the Exposure Notifications API was announced, 
an SDK update was required, which meant that the version numbers also had to be 
updated.

How to update

iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 are available via Over-the-Air Update (Settings > 
General > Software Update) via Finder on a Mac with macOS Catalina, or via 
iTunes on a PC or Mac with macOS Mojave or 

RE: Closing All Open Apps

[Richard Turner]

Nope.
You get to close them one at a time.
Hence, the reason I close them fairly often to keep from having to flick up 
with three fingers dozens of times.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:07 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Closing All Open Apps

Howdy All,

Is there a gesture for closing all open apps?  If so, would someone please 
inform me as to what this gesture is?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
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Re: Applevis blog about iOS 13.5

[Kathy Brandt]

Does the contact tracing kick in whether or not you enable it? For it to work I 
suppose Bluetooth would have to be turned on. That uses up battery power, so I 
don’t unless it’s absolutely necessary. So, I hope we’re not talking about 
something that just takes over what I choose to do with my device.

> On May 20, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Well it's now on all 3 of my devices 2 public release one which has beta 
> profile. All now say #iOS13.5 and I still have the on going issue of 
> #VoiceOver not speaking the name of the contact which populates the to field 
> when composing a new message. How terribly disappointing.
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5/20/2020 1:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Apple Releases iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 With Exposure Notification API and 
>> Face Mask Detection for Face ID
>> Submitted by AppleVis on 20 May, 2020
>> 
>> 
>> Apple has today released iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 to the public, with 
>> Exposure Notification API, faster Face ID unlocking when wearing a face 
>> mask, a new option to automatically share selected health data with 
>> emergency services, and more.
>> 
>> Bug Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5
>> Our testing suggests that the following pre-existing accessibility bugs have 
>> been resolved in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5:
>> 
>> ·Temporary banners now correctly disappear after a few seconds.
>> ·VoiceOver no longer wrongly reports some blocks of text as being 
>> editable text fields.
>> ·Apple appears to have made some improvements to the bug which 
>> prevented websites from inverting colors when both Dark Mode and Smart 
>> Invert are enabled. Our testing suggests that there are still instances when 
>> websites will not invert.
>> At the time of writing, we are unaware of any new bugs for blind or low 
>> vision users in today's releases. However, as we always stress, we can make 
>> no claims on the completeness or accuracy of our testing. We are only a 
>> small team, and it is simply impossible for us to test all devices, 
>> configurations, applications, and use cases. Accordingly, to help us ensure 
>> that the information on this page is as complete and accurate as possible, 
>> please let us know in the comments of any fixes; enhancements; or 
>> regressions that you find in your own use of iOS 13.5 or iPadOS 13.5.
>> 
>> General Changes in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5
>> ·iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 include Apple and Google’s new Exposure 
>> Notification API for COVID-19 contact tracing: Take a first look at Apple 
>> and Google's ambitious new COVID-19 contact tracing technology that will 
>> send you a notification if you were near someone who has the coronavirus
>> ·Face ID can now detect if you’re wearing a mask and skip directly 
>> to the passcode screen if so: Apple wants to make Face ID work better with 
>> your face mask. Here's what we know
>> ·You can now opt to have selected information from the Health app 
>> automatically shared with emergency services when making an emergency call: 
>> New iPhone iOS 13.5 update could save your life — here's how
>> ·There is a new setting in the FaceTime app that allows you to 
>> disable the automatic enlargement of the active speaker's video window: Busy 
>> Group FaceTime call? iOS 13.5 lets you turn off automatic face zooming
>> ·A new option is available to share songs, albums, and playlists to 
>> Facebook and Instagram Stories: HOW TO Share Apple Music Songs in Your 
>> Instagram & Facebook Stories
>> According to MacRumors, iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 also patch two security 
>> vulnerabilities that affect the Mail app on the ‌iPhone‌ and the ‌iPad‌:
>> 
>> One vulnerability allowed an attacker to remotely infect an iOS device by 
>> sending emails that consume a significant amount of memory, while another 
>> allowed remote code executions.
>> Release Notes
>> Apple's full release notes for iOS 13.5 are as follows:
>> 
>> iOS 13.5 speeds up access to the passcode field on devices with Face ID when 
>> you are wearing a face mask and introduces the Exposure Notification API to 
>> support COVID-19 contact tracing apps from public health authorities. This 
>> update also introduces an option to control automatic prominence of video 
>> tiles on Group FaceTime calls and includes bug fixes and other improvements.
>> Note that iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 were initially released as iOS
>>  13.4.5 beta and iPadOS 13.4.5 beta, but when the Exposure Notifications API 
>> was announced, an SDK update was required, which meant that the version 
>> numbers also had to be updated.
>> 
>> How to update
>> iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 are available via Over-the-Air Update (Settings > 
>> General > Software Update) via Finder on a Mac with macOS Catalina, or via 
>> iTunes on a PC or Mac with macOS Mojave or earlier.
>> 
>> Before updating, we strongly recommend making a full and complete 

Re: Touch ID question

[Mike B.]

After setting up 2 Factor Authentication, then after turning off the pass 
code, entering the pass code at anytime is no longer necessary.  This was 
done on both our
phones with the same results.  But, I did not set-up the touch ID feature, 
and don't know if it'll work differently with this feature enabled.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: TaraPrakash
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: Touch ID question


You have to have the passcode first  When you go to settings to enable touch 
ID, your phone will ask for the passcode.So you will need both



Sent from my iPhone


  On May 20, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


  
  I believe you have to have both.

  But, see if you can set up a fingerprint without a Passcode.

  I only need my passcode when I reboot or turn on the phone after it has 
been off.







  Richard

  "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael Amaro
  Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:05 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Touch ID question



  Hello Listers,



  I have an iPhone sE 2020,  I am wondering, can you use the finger print on 
its own or do you also have to enable the numeric passcode?



  Thanks
  Michael
  Email
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New Simm cards

[Marie]

I know there was discussion about this earlier but, at the time It was not 
something I was interested in or had a need for. Now, my son-in-law is planning 
to upgrade his old IPhone 6 to the new SE. Can he use the card from the old 
phone or does he have to have a new one?
Sorry for re-asking.
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Re: Closing All Open Apps

[Justin Harris]

One cool thing about Android that I wish could be brought to iOS by Apple. At 
one point, I remember there was a jailbreak tweak for that. But sadly 
jailbreaking, while still technically possible, has gotten a lot harder as of 
late.


> El may. 20, 2020, a las 1:13 p. m., Mike B.  escribió:
> 
> I close my apps as soon as I'm done with them, but whenever I turn voiceover 
> on for my wife's phone I've got to close several apps, like right now to 
> update it to iOS 13.5!  LOL  LOL  So much for wishful thinking!
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
> it cleans the toilet. 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Richard Turner 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:08 AM
> Subject: RE: Closing All Open Apps
> 
> Nope.
> You get to close them one at a time.
> Hence, the reason I close them fairly often to keep from having to flick up 
> with three fingers dozens of times.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Mike B.
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:07 AM
> To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Closing All Open Apps
>  
> Howdy All,
>  
> Is there a gesture for closing all open apps?  If so, would someone please 
> inform me as to what this gesture is?  Thanks much.
> 
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Re: Closing All Open Apps

[CoolHappenings]

Frequently closing and re opening apps have been shown to incrrease battery 
consumption. It would be a better idea to leave frequently used apps in the 
background; good day all; 

No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant 
number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

> On 21 May 2020, at 1:14 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> 
> I close my apps as soon as I'm done with them, but whenever I turn voiceover 
> on for my wife's phone I've got to close several apps, like right now to 
> update it to iOS 13.5!  LOL  LOL  So much for wishful thinking!
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
> it cleans the toilet. 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:08 AM
> Subject: RE: Closing All Open Apps
> 
> Nope.
> You get to close them one at a time.
> Hence, the reason I close them fairly often to keep from having to flick up 
> with three fingers dozens of times.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:07 AM
> To: viPhone 
> Subject: Closing All Open Apps
>  
> Howdy All,
>  
> Is there a gesture for closing all open apps?  If so, would someone please 
> inform me as to what this gesture is?  Thanks much.
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: Applevis blog about iOS 13.5

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
Well it's now on all 3 of my devices
2 public release one which has beta profile. All now say
#iOS13.5 and I still have the on going issue of #VoiceOver not
speaking the name of the contact which populates the to field
when composing a new message. How terribly disappointing.
Robin


On 5/20/2020 1:48 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
Apple Releases iOS 13.5 and iPadOS
13.5 With Exposure Notification API and Face Mask Detection
for Face ID
Submitted
by AppleVis on 20 May, 2020

Apple
has today released iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 to the public,
with Exposure Notification API, faster Face ID unlocking
when wearing a face mask, a new option to automatically
share selected health data with emergency services, and
more.
Bug
Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS
13.5
Our
testing suggests that the following pre-existing
accessibility bugs have been resolved in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS
13.5:

  ·   
  Temporary
banners now correctly disappear after a few seconds.

  ·   
  VoiceOver
no longer wrongly reports some blocks of text as being
editable text fields.

  ·   
  Apple
appears to have made some improvements to the bug
which prevented websites from inverting colors when both
Dark Mode and Smart Invert are enabled. Our
testing suggests that there are still instances when
websites will not invert.
At
the time of writing, we are unaware of any new bugs for
blind or low vision users in today's releases. However, as
we always stress, we can make no claims on the completeness
or accuracy of our testing. We are only a small team, and it
is simply impossible for us to test all devices,
configurations, applications, and use cases. Accordingly, to
help us ensure that the information on this page is as
complete and accurate as possible, please let us know in the
comments of any fixes; enhancements; or regressions that you
find in your own use of iOS 13.5 or iPadOS 13.5.
General
Changes in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5

  ·   
  iOS
13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 include Apple and Google’s new Exposure
Notification API for COVID-19 contact tracing: Take a
first look at Apple and Google's ambitious new COVID-19
contact tracing technology that will send you a
notification if you were near someone who has the
coronavirus

  ·   
  Face
ID can now detect if you’re wearing a mask and skip directly
to the passcode screen if so: Apple
wants to make Face ID work better with your face mask.
Here's what we know

  ·   
  You
can now opt to have selected information from the Health app
automatically shared with emergency services when making an
emergency call: New
iPhone iOS 13.5 update could save your life — here's how

  ·   
  There
is a new setting in the FaceTime app that allows you to
disable the automatic enlargement of the active speaker's
video window: Busy
Group FaceTime call? iOS 13.5 lets you turn off
automatic face zooming

  ·   
  A
new option is available to share songs, albums, and
playlists to Facebook and Instagram Stories: HOW TO
Share Apple Music Songs in Your Instagram & Facebook
Stories
According
to MacRumors,
iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 also patch two security
vulnerabilities that affect the Mail app on the ‌iPhone‌
and the ‌iPad‌:
One
  vulnerability allowed an attacker to remotely infect an
  iOS device by sending emails that consume a significant
  amount of memory, while another allowed remote code
  executions.
Release
Notes
Apple's
full release notes for iOS 13.5 are as follows:
iOS
  13.5 speeds up access to the passcode field on devices
  with Face ID when you are wearing a face mask and
  introduces the Exposure Notification API to support
  COVID-19 contact tracing 

RE: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY available soon!

[annakb]

Awesome!  Thank you for taking on such a mammoth task!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Curtis 
Delzer
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:02 PM
To: Blind_technical discussion list ; BlindAds 
; 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
Subject: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY 
available soon!

I have taken on the project of making Michael's book available with DAISY 
markings so you can listen via your stream, or even your NLS player where you 
can navigate to hundreds of headings. If you put one of the text formats into 
the stream, for example, the only access to levels you have are screens and 
paragraphs for serious navigation points. The one I am creating will give you 
access to hundreds of locations which make logical sense in a 1300 page work. 
The voice I'll initially use is TextWare James, initially, but there will be at 
least 3 versions created with different voices, and I want some input on which 
is your favorite voice. Remember this is a work which starts from nothing, 
meaning that the blind user is taken from a state of unawareness to a complete 
understanding of how IOS and the iPhone work, as far as anyone would want to go 
because after you've read this book, any question you have is a matter of 
re-reading that section again, truly.
All that can happen is a further development of the IOS and features which 
could be added, but you will be not only ready for them, you'll be anxious to 
put into practice what you know with complete assurance.
I have also taken the liberty of spelling words which are either author's names 
or unusual names of apps he recommends and/or uses, have describe what the 
heading levels are used primarily for, and recording it at a good enough level 
to avoid artifacts because I am not concerned about bandwidth. When the book is 
done, I'll make it available in either 3gp format, suitable for NLS and Victor 
Stream playing and the smallest footprint in space on your storage device, or 
48K *.mp3s which will be a good compromise for those who absolutely must use 
*.,mp3 files with the DAISY markup included.
I shall announce when I am done, and where to get it.
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Re: Closing All Open Apps

[Justin Harris]

I rarely ever remember to close apps, so it would be nice having a close all 
button for when we need to do that. 


Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El 05/20/2020, a la(s) 2:04 p. m., Arnold Schmidt  
> escribió:
> 
> Over the years, I have heard both sides saying whether it is better to close 
> often, or not to bother. One argument supporting the not to have to close 
> them often is that after an app has not been used in a while, I am not sure 
> how long it takes, the word active no longer appears beside it in the app 
> switcher. It allegedly is just in the background, waiting to be made active 
> again. But then I think that apps that are actively looking for something, 
> such as location, take more power. So, I compromise, in that if I know I will 
> use an app again, say within an hour or so, I leave it active. Being that 
> when it is opened, it takes a second or two to activate itself, and that 
> power has to come from somewhere. I will close it if I know I won't use it 
> again all that soon. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
> 
> On May 20, 2020, at 2:26 PM, CoolHappenings  wrote:
> 
> Frequently closing and re opening apps have been shown to incrrease battery 
> consumption. It would be a better idea to leave frequently used apps in the 
> background; good day all; 
> 
> No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a 
> significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
> 
>>> On 21 May 2020, at 1:14 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I close my apps as soon as I'm done with them, but whenever I turn voiceover 
>> on for my wife's phone I've got to close several apps, like right now to 
>> update it to iOS 13.5!  LOL  LOL  So much for wishful thinking!
>> 
>> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
>> it cleans the toilet. 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:08 AM
>> Subject: RE: Closing All Open Apps
>> 
>> Nope.
>> You get to close them one at a time.
>> Hence, the reason I close them fairly often to keep from having to flick up 
>> with three fingers dozens of times.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
>> B.
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:07 AM
>> To: viPhone 
>> Subject: Closing All Open Apps
>>  
>> Howdy All,
>>  
>> Is there a gesture for closing all open apps?  If so, would someone please 
>> inform me as to what this gesture is?  Thanks much.
>> 
>> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
>> it cleans the toilet.
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Re: Closing All Open Apps

[Mike B.]

I close my apps as soon as I'm done with them, but whenever I turn voiceover 
on for my wife's phone I've got to close several apps, like right now to 
update it to iOS 13.5!  LOL  LOL  So much for wishful thinking!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: Closing All Open Apps


Nope.

You get to close them one at a time.

Hence, the reason I close them fairly often to keep from having to flick up 
with three fingers dozens of times.









Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:07 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Closing All Open Apps



Howdy All,



Is there a gesture for closing all open apps?  If so, would someone please 
inform me as to what this gesture is?  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
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Not Transferring, was Re: Transferring music from old to new phone?

[Arnold Schmidt]

Being that I now have ITunes Match, and that I stream Apple Music, can I 
specificly not transfer the music from this phone to a new one when updating 
phone to phone? Can I specify what I want transferred, or is it all or nothing? 
If so, I almost could get by with a 64 gig model, although I will probably 
still get the 128 model. Thanks for any information. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On May 20, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

it all transferred for me.


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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> On May 19, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> With 95% possibility of getting myself teh the new SE within the next few 
> days, I’m wondering if music that I’ve on this SE, if via the phone to phone 
> transfer offered within the setup, will the music be transferred over, or 
> would I need to use ITunes (connecting the new SE to the computer) to 
> transfer the music?Thanks for info and experiences.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY available soon!

[Curtis Delzer]

I have taken on the project of making Michael's book available with 
DAISY markings so you can listen via your stream, or even your NLS 
player where you can navigate to hundreds of headings. If you put one of 
the text formats into the stream, for example, the only access to levels 
you have are screens and paragraphs for serious navigation points. The 
one I am creating will give you access to hundreds of locations which 
make logical sense in a 1300 page work. The voice I'll initially use is 
TextWare James, initially, but there will be at least 3 versions created 
with different voices, and I want some input on which is your favorite 
voice. Remember this is a work which starts from nothing, meaning that 
the blind user is taken from a state of unawareness to a complete 
understanding of how IOS and the iPhone work, as far as anyone would 
want to go because after you've read this book, any question you have is 
a matter of re-reading that section again, truly.
All that can happen is a further development of the IOS and features 
which could be added, but you will be not only ready for them, you'll be 
anxious to put into practice what you know with complete assurance.
I have also taken the liberty of spelling words which are either 
author's names or unusual names of apps he recommends and/or uses, have 
describe what the heading levels are used primarily for, and recording 
it at a good enough level to avoid artifacts because I am not concerned 
about bandwidth. When the book is done, I'll make it available in either 
3gp format, suitable for NLS and Victor Stream playing and the smallest 
footprint in space on your storage device, or 48K *.mp3s which will be a 
good compromise for those who absolutely must use *.,mp3 files with the 
DAISY markup included.

I shall announce when I am done, and where to get it.
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RE: New Simm cards

[Richard Turner]

He should ask his carrier.
Most of the time, yes, if the 6S used the Nano Sim card, it will work; but to 
be sure, one should always check with your carrier.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 10:59 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: New Simm cards

I know there was discussion about this earlier but, at the time It was not 
something I was interested in or had a need for. Now, my son-in-law is planning 
to upgrade his old IPhone 6 to the new SE. Can he use the card from the old 
phone or does he have to have a new one?
Sorry for re-asking.
Marie
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Closing All Open Apps

[Mike B.]

Howdy All,

Is there a gesture for closing all open apps?  If so, would someone please 
inform me as to what this gesture is?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Banking app in the UK

['ChalmersAS' via VIPhone]

Hi

Can anyone recommend any bank apps which are fully accessible with VO? I’m 
familiar with Santander. Although the app would be my primary concern, it would 
be helpful if the bank’s website was accessible also.

I really think it’s about time there was one accessible app you could manage 
all your bank accounts through, whoever is the provider. They all manage to 
talk to each other through ATMs. 

If anyone tells me such a thing already exists, I shall sidle off pretending 
not to be stupid.

Thanks in advance

Adrienne

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Re: Banking app in the UK

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

The Barclays and the Halifax apps work well with VoiceOver and you can link 
accounts with other banks from within the Barclays app. Barclays Bank ATM’s are 
blind-friendly and have a 3.5 mm jack so it can talk you through everything. 
Harry

> On 20 May 2020, at 17:06, 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Can anyone recommend any bank apps which are fully accessible with VO? I’m 
> familiar with Santander. Although the app would be my primary concern, it 
> would be helpful if the bank’s website was accessible also.
> 
> I really think it’s about time there was one accessible app you could manage 
> all your bank accounts through, whoever is the provider. They all manage to 
> talk to each other through ATMs. 
> 
> If anyone tells me such a thing already exists, I shall sidle off pretending 
> not to be stupid.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Adrienne
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OK folks go get it

[Gordon]

IOS 13.5 is now live for public consumption. I can tell you I've had it 
for a couple of days now and have never seen better battery life on any 
IOS version. I think you'll be pleased if you see my same results.


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Re: Closing All Open Apps

[Arnold Schmidt]

Over the years, I have heard both sides saying whether it is better to close 
often, or not to bother. One argument supporting the not to have to close them 
often is that after an app has not been used in a while, I am not sure how long 
it takes, the word active no longer appears beside it in the app switcher. It 
allegedly is just in the background, waiting to be made active again. But then 
I think that apps that are actively looking for something, such as location, 
take more power. So, I compromise, in that if I know I will use an app again, 
say within an hour or so, I leave it active. Being that when it is opened, it 
takes a second or two to activate itself, and that power has to come from 
somewhere. I will close it if I know I won't use it again all that soon. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On May 20, 2020, at 2:26 PM, CoolHappenings  wrote:

Frequently closing and re opening apps have been shown to incrrease battery 
consumption. It would be a better idea to leave frequently used apps in the 
background; good day all; 

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> On 21 May 2020, at 1:14 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> 
> I close my apps as soon as I'm done with them, but whenever I turn voiceover 
> on for my wife's phone I've got to close several apps, like right now to 
> update it to iOS 13.5!  LOL  LOL  So much for wishful thinking!
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
> it cleans the toilet. 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:08 AM
> Subject: RE: Closing All Open Apps
> 
> Nope.
> You get to close them one at a time.
> Hence, the reason I close them fairly often to keep from having to flick up 
> with three fingers dozens of times.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:07 AM
> To: viPhone 
> Subject: Closing All Open Apps
>  
> Howdy All,
>  
> Is there a gesture for closing all open apps?  If so, would someone please 
> inform me as to what this gesture is?  Thanks much.
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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RE: Question about iTunes and iPhone

[Rena]

 

 

 

According to MS I had iTunes for windows instead of iTunes for desktop. Now 
iTunes recognizes my iPhone and I could updated, but it doesn’t sync my 
contacts despite saying it does.

I’m confused about the info about iCloud, so I don’t know what to do in order 
to sync my iPhone contacts.

 

Rena

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about iTunes and iPhone

 

Mine says iCloud app so I guess the answer is yes. Open iCloud and check the 
box for contacts. Do NOT sign out of iCloud when you finish- just close.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Question about iTunes and iPhone

 

I have iCloud in my pc. Is this the same that iCloud panel?

My contacts are in outlook in the iCloud folder, but they don’t sync.

I would appreciate more details, please.

 

Rena

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Question about iTunes and iPhone

 

Install the iCloud Control Panel. Within that, you can check mark an option to 
sync your contacts. New contacts or edits to contacts I make in Outlook on the 
PC appear on the phone almost instantly. Likewise, contacts added or edited on 
the phone show up in the Outlook/iCloud/Contacts folder on the PC.

 

Cher

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Question about iTunes and iPhone

 

Hello,

 

Until recently I used iTunes to update my iPhone and synchronize my contacts. I 
plugged the iPhone to my pc, and iTunes opened. Now, when I plug the iPhone to 
the computer, iTunes doesn't show up. I open iTunes, but I only find music and 
radio. I don't find my iPhone as I used to do before, so I can't update or sync 
my contacts.

This is a windows 10 machine.

What can I do? I hope someone can help, please.

 

Rena

 

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RE: new iPhone SE colors?

[Carolyn]

Get a red case for it, then. I have a turquoise case for my black 11. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 12:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone SE colors?

I ordered the black one it was the only one in stock.  I wanted Red but didn’t 
want to wait days or weeks for it to come in.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new iPhone SE colors?

 

In looking through the SE2020’s colors, I no longer see Space gray. What is its 
equivalent? What colors have you guys ordered yours, or that look nice like the 
Space Gray did in its time?

 


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Re: Touch ID question

[CoolHappenings]

Hi, you'd need a password to enable and use the touch ID feature, everytime you 
reboot the phone; hth 
Eli

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>  
> Thanks
> Michael
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Re: Touch ID question

[TaraPrakash]

You have to have the passcode first  When you go to settings to enable touch 
ID, your phone will ask for the passcode.So you will need both 
   

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I believe you have to have both.
> But, see if you can set up a fingerprint without a Passcode.
> I only need my passcode when I reboot or turn on the phone after it has been 
> off.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Amaro
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Touch ID question
>  
> Hello Listers,
>  
> I have an iPhone sE 2020,  I am wondering, can you use the finger print on 
> its own or do you also have to enable the numeric passcode?
>  
> Thanks
> Michael
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Re: Qardio arm app

[Kimberly]

The scale is called qardio base. You can get it from amazon.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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> On May 18, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Qardio base is the name of the scale. I’m actually not sure if I have 
> spelled it right. I don’t own one, and I did not look at the spelling, except 
> I know the queue is correct. And I don’t know where you can find it. I would 
> suggest trying eBay or Amazon. Plus I think they actually have their own 
> store, but when I went there, before finding mine on eBay, it was something 
> strange about it accessibility wise. And  it was actually cheaper on eBay.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 18, 2020, at 5:51 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> What is the name of the body weight scale and where can I find it?
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
>> 
>> Qardio has other devices you can control through the app including a very 
>> good body weight scale. That may explain the rather general name of the app.
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
>> go on.—Annie Proulx
>> 
 On May 11, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
>>> OK. The link that Bobby sent is the correct one. I had actually seen that, 
>>> but over thought the whole thing. I was really thinking the app wouldn’t 
>>> have such a general description in the beginning. But I didn’t read far 
>>> enough. I guess all‘s well that ends well, if my device shows up on time 
>>> from eBay.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 11, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 
 Qardio!  No U after the Q.
 
 Andy
 
 - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 4:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Qardio arm app
 
 
 Yes, I know. I spelled it with a Q.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 11, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> Keep in mind that Qardio is spelled with a Q.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: "VIPhone via" 
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 3:58 PM
> Subject: Qardio arm app
> 
> 
> I just ordered this blood pressure monitor, so I went to the App Store to 
> try to find the app. I have searched underqardio, qardioarm with and 
> without the space between oh and a. I’m not coming up with anything. Lots 
> of apps, but not one that specifically looks like it’s for this device. 
> And I was definitely under the impression I needed an app. What am I 
> doing wrong?
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Re: new iPhone SE colors?

[Julie Dawson]

I wish they still had the rose gold color, sigh!
  - Original Message - 
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  Subject: RE: new iPhone SE colors?


  Get a red case for it, then. I have a turquoise case for my black 11. 

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Dennis Long
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  Subject: RE: new iPhone SE colors?

  I ordered the black one it was the only one in stock.  I wanted Red but 
didn’t want to wait days or weeks for it to come in.

   

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  Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:51 PM
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  Subject: new iPhone SE colors?

   

  In looking through the SE2020’s colors, I no longer see Space gray. What is 
its equivalent? What colors have you guys ordered yours, or that look nice like 
the Space Gray did in its time?

   


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Touch ID question

[Michael Amaro]

Hello Listers,

I have an iPhone sE 2020,  I am wondering, can you use the finger print on its 
own or do you also have to enable the numeric passcode?

Thanks
Michael
Email
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Re: COVID-19 exposure notification settings begin to go live for iOS users with new update – TechCrunch

[Richard Turner]

Covid 19 exposure tracking defaults to off, and this is the explanation that 
shows up below the setting.
When enabled, iPhone can exchange random IDs with other devices using 
Bluetooth. This enables an app to notify you if you may have been exposed to 
COVID-19. Exposure Logging cannot access any data in, or add any data to, the 
Health app.
So, it only notifies you if you have been close enough to someone who reported 
that they have been exposed to the Covidvirus, to give you information so you 
can take further steps to take care of yourself.

Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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On May 20, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:



https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/20/covid-19-exposure-notification-settings-begin-to-go-live-for-ios-users-with-new-update/
COVID-19 exposure notification settings begin to go live for iOS users with new 
update
Darrell 
Etherington
@etherington
 / 10:01 am PDT • May 20, 2020

[cid:(null)][https://techcrunch-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/ios-exposure-notification.jpg?w=1024]

Apple has released iOS 13.5, which includes support for the Exposure 
Notification 
API
 that it co-created with Google to support public health authorities in their 
contact-tracing efforts to combat COVID-19. The API requires third-party apps 
developed by public health authorities for use, and none have yet been 
released, but iOS device users already have access to COVID-19 Exposure Logging 
global settings.

As previewed in the beta release, you can access the Exposure Logging settings 
under the Settings app, then navigate to the Privacy subsection. From there, 
you can select the Health submenu and find the COVID-19 Exposure Logging 
setting, which will be off be default. It can’t be turned on at all until you 
actually get an authorized app to enable them, at which point you’ll receive a 
pop-up asking you to authorize Exposure Notifications access. Once you do, you 
can return here to toggle notifications off, and also manually delete your 
device’s exposure log should you choose to opt out.

Apple and Google both have emphasized that they want as much user control and 
visibility into the Exposure Notification API as possible. They’re using 
randomized, temporary identifiers that are not centrally stored to do the 
exposure notification, and are also forbidding the simultaneous use of 
geolocation services and the Exposure Notification API within the same app. 
This manual control is another step to ensure that users have full control over 
what info they share to participate in the system, and when.

Contact tracing is a time-tested strategy for combating the spread of 
infectious disease, and has traditionally worked by attempting to trace 
potential exposure by interviewing infected individuals and learning as much as 
possible about their movements during their infectious period. Modern connected 
devices mean that we can potentially make this far more efficient and accurate, 
but Google and Apple have worked with privacy experts to try to determine a way 
to make this happen without exposing users to privacy risks. Matching also 
happens locally on a user’s device, not in any centralized database.

Apple and Google are currently working with 

Re: Applevis blog about iOS 13.5

[Wayne Merritt]

One item that was not mentioned in the AppleVis post, but was in the
comments. The bug of not being able to sue Braille Screen Input to
enter your passcode on the lock screen has been fixed. I noticed this
in one of the recent updates, either 13.4 or 13.4.1. I'm very glad
that was fixed, since I often find it easier to enter my code with BSI
than using the keypad. Not to say I can't use the keypad, but BSI
makes it so much faster.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 5/20/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Bluetooth takes so little power, I leave it on.
>
>
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening,
> it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
>
>
> On May 20, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>
> 
> Does the contact tracing kick in whether or not you enable it? For it to
> work I suppose Bluetooth would have to be turned on. That uses up battery
> power, so I don’t unless it’s absolutely necessary. So, I hope we’re not
> talking about something that just takes over what I choose to do with my
> device.
>
> On May 20, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Robin Frost
> mailto:robin...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Well it's now on all 3 of my devices 2 public release one which has beta
> profile. All now say #iOS13.5 and I still have the on going issue of
> #VoiceOver not speaking the name of the contact which populates the to field
> when composing a new message. How terribly disappointing.
>
> Robin
>
>
> On 5/20/2020 1:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Apple Releases iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 With Exposure Notification API and
> Face Mask Detection for Face ID
>
> Submitted by AppleVis on 20 May, 2020
> 
>
> Apple has today released iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 to the public, with
> Exposure Notification API, faster Face ID unlocking when wearing a face
> mask, a new option to automatically share selected health data with
> emergency services, and more.
>
> Bug Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5
>
> Our testing suggests that the following pre-existing accessibility bugs have
> been resolved in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5:
> ·Temporary banners now correctly disappear after a few
> seconds.
> ·VoiceOver no longer wrongly reports some blocks of text as being
> editable text
> fields.
> ·Apple appears to have made some improvements to the bug which
> prevented websites from inverting colors when both Dark Mode and Smart
> Invert are
> enabled.
> Our testing suggests that there are still instances when websites will not
> invert.
>
> At the time of writing, we are unaware of any new bugs for blind or low
> vision users in today's releases. However, as we always stress, we can make
> no claims on the completeness or accuracy of our testing. We are only a
> small team, and it is simply impossible for us to test all devices,
> configurations, applications, and use cases. Accordingly, to help us ensure
> that the information on this page is as complete and accurate as possible,
> please let us know in the comments of any fixes; enhancements; or
> regressions that you find in your own use of iOS 13.5 or iPadOS 13.5.
>
> General Changes in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5
> ·iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 include Apple and Google’s new Exposure
> Notification API for COVID-19 contact tracing: Take a first look at Apple
> and Google's ambitious new COVID-19 contact tracing technology that will
> send you a notification if you were near someone who has the
> 

COVID-19 exposure notification settings begin to go live for iOS users with new update – TechCrunch

[Kathy Brandt]

https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/20/covid-19-exposure-notification-settings-begin-to-go-live-for-ios-users-with-new-update/
COVID-19 exposure notification settings begin to go live for iOS users with new 
update
Darrell Etherington
@etherington/ 10:01 am PDT • May 20, 2020



Apple has released iOS 13.5, which includes support for the Exposure 
Notification API that it co-created with Google to support public health 
authorities in their contact-tracing efforts to combat COVID-19. The API 
requires third-party apps developed by public health authorities for use, and 
none have yet been released, but iOS device users already have access to 
COVID-19 Exposure Logging global settings.

As previewed in the beta release, you can access the Exposure Logging settings 
under the Settings app, then navigate to the Privacy subsection. From there, 
you can select the Health submenu and find the COVID-19 Exposure Logging 
setting, which will be off be default. It can’t be turned on at all until you 
actually get an authorized app to enable them, at which point you’ll receive a 
pop-up asking you to authorize Exposure Notifications access. Once you do, you 
can return here to toggle notifications off, and also manually delete your 
device’s exposure log should you choose to opt out.

Apple and Google both have emphasized that they want as much user control and 
visibility into the Exposure Notification API as possible. They’re using 
randomized, temporary identifiers that are not centrally stored to do the 
exposure notification, and are also forbidding the simultaneous use of 
geolocation services and the Exposure Notification API within the same app. 
This manual control is another step to ensure that users have full control over 
what info they share to participate in the system, and when.

Contact tracing is a time-tested strategy for combating the spread of 
infectious disease, and has traditionally worked by attempting to trace 
potential exposure by interviewing infected individuals and learning as much as 
possible about their movements during their infectious period. Modern connected 
devices mean that we can potentially make this far more efficient and accurate, 
but Google and Apple have worked with privacy experts to try to determine a way 
to make this happen without exposing users to privacy risks. Matching also 
happens locally on a user’s device, not in any centralized database.

Apple and Google are currently working with public health authorities who are 
building apps based on this API, and the companies also have noted that this is 
a temporary measure that has been designed from the beginning to be disabled 
once the threat of COVID-19 has passed.




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bard mobile

[deidre muccio]

does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing 
difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site 
that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed one 
out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The link to 
write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also now missing 
from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to be the case. and 
not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the app. I don't believe 
that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is spiffying  up their 
website with added graphics or visuals like Learning Ally did after they took 
it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined a perfectly simple to 
navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't suit someone visually 
impaired but probably works for others just fine.

does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone number 
and call them in the morning.

Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience

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Getting rid of unwanted news sources in the SmartNews app

[Mary Otten]

Hi folks,
I have been enjoying the SmartNews app. The one thing I would like to be able 
to do would be to tell the app not to include certain sources. Some other news 
apps, such as Google news, let you do that. I can’t find a way to do this with 
SmartNews. Is there a way? I hope so.
Mary


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Re: bard mobile

[Arnold Schmidt]

Remember that this all started when they attempted to do an upgrade that 
failed. Then when they attempted to reinstall the old one is when this stuff 
started. I can log in  to use the browse bard section the first try most of the 
time, but if I switch to another app, then go back to bard, I have to log in 
again. I hope they will fix it, I hope this having to log in again doesn't mean 
they had too many times of an unauthorized person hacking the site and 
downloading books. I assume you have written to 
nlsdownlo...@loc.gov 
to urge them to figure it out. In  the meantime, there site on the web works 
well with Safari, it is very similar to the browse bard section of the app. Try 
https://nlsbard.loc.gov/login/mainpage/NLS 
Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On May 20, 2020, at 6:40 PM, deidre muccio  wrote:

does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing 
difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site 
that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed one 
out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The link to 
write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also now missing 
from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to be the case. and 
not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the app. I don't believe 
that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is spiffying  up their 
website with added graphics or visuals like Learning Ally did after they took 
it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined a perfectly simple to 
navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't suit someone visually 
impaired but probably works for others just fine.

does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone number 
and call them in the morning.

Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience

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Re: Closing All Open Apps

[Gerardo Corripio]

Like before updating, in this case, from iOS13.4.1, to 13.5. Just to be on the 
safe side, I close all from the App-Switcher, before Updating iOS versions.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 20 may 2020, a la(s) 2:06 p.m., Justin Harris  
> escribió:
> 
> I rarely ever remember to close apps, so it would be nice having a close all 
> button for when we need to do that. 
> 
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
> 
>> El 05/20/2020, a la(s) 2:04 p. m., Arnold Schmidt  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> Over the years, I have heard both sides saying whether it is better to 
>> close often, or not to bother. One argument supporting the not to have to 
>> close them often is that after an app has not been used in a while, I am not 
>> sure how long it takes, the word active no longer appears beside it in the 
>> app switcher. It allegedly is just in the background, waiting to be made 
>> active again. But then I think that apps that are actively looking for 
>> something, such as location, take more power. So, I compromise, in that if I 
>> know I will use an app again, say within an hour or so, I leave it active. 
>> Being that when it is opened, it takes a second or two to activate itself, 
>> and that power has to come from somewhere. I will close it if I know I won't 
>> use it again all that soon. 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>> 
>> On May 20, 2020, at 2:26 PM, CoolHappenings  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Frequently closing and re opening apps have been shown to incrrease battery 
>> consumption. It would be a better idea to leave frequently used apps in the 
>> background; good day all; 
>> 
>> No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a 
>> significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
>> 
>>> On 21 May 2020, at 1:14 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I close my apps as soon as I'm done with them, but whenever I turn 
>>> voiceover on for my wife's phone I've got to close several apps, like right 
>>> now to update it to iOS 13.5!  LOL  LOL  So much for wishful thinking!
>>> 
>>> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>>>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
>>> it cleans the toilet. 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Richard Turner
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:08 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Closing All Open Apps
>>> 
>>> Nope.
>>> You get to close them one at a time.
>>> Hence, the reason I close them fairly often to keep from having to flick up 
>>> with three fingers dozens of times.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
>>> Oregon.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
>>> B.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:07 AM
>>> To: viPhone 
>>> Subject: Closing All Open Apps
>>>  
>>> Howdy All,
>>>  
>>> Is there a gesture for closing all open apps?  If so, would someone please 
>>> inform me as to what this gesture is?  Thanks much.
>>> 
>>> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>>>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
>>> it cleans the toilet.
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RE: Applevis blog about iOS 13.5

[Dennis Long]

You can opt out of the notification.  I turned it off.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applevis blog about iOS 13.5

 

Bluetooth takes so little power, I leave it on. 

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

www.turner42.com  

 





On May 20, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Kathy Brandt mailto:katya20...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Does the contact tracing kick in whether or not you enable it? For it to work I 
suppose Bluetooth would have to be turned on. That uses up battery power, so I 
don’t unless it’s absolutely necessary. So, I hope we’re not talking about 
something that just takes over what I choose to do with my device.


On May 20, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Robin Frost mailto:robin...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hi,

Well it's now on all 3 of my devices 2 public release one which has beta 
profile. All now say #iOS13.5 and I still have the on going issue of #VoiceOver 
not speaking the name of the contact which populates the to field when 
composing a new message. How terribly disappointing.

Robin

 

On 5/20/2020 1:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


Apple Releases iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 With Exposure Notification API and Face 
Mask Detection for Face ID


Submitted by AppleVis on 20 May, 2020

 

 

Apple has today released iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 to the public, with Exposure 
Notification API, faster Face ID unlocking when wearing a face mask, a new 
option to automatically share selected health data with emergency services, and 
more.


Bug Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5


Our testing suggests that the following pre-existing accessibility bugs have 
been resolved in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5:

*  

 Temporary banners now correctly disappear after a few seconds.

*  

 VoiceOver no longer wrongly reports some blocks of text as being editable text 
fields.

* Apple appears to have made some improvements to  

 the bug which prevented websites from inverting colors when both Dark Mode and 
Smart Invert are enabled. Our testing suggests that there are still instances 
when websites will not invert.

At the time of writing, we are unaware of any new bugs for blind or low vision 
users in today's releases. However, as we always stress, we can make no claims 
on the completeness or accuracy of our testing. We are only a small team, and 
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applications, and use cases. Accordingly, to help us ensure that the 
information on this page is as complete and accurate as possible, please let us 
know in the comments of any fixes; enhancements; or regressions that you find 
in your own use of iOS 13.5 or iPadOS 13.5.


General Changes in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5


* iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 include Apple and Google’s new Exposure 
Notification API for COVID-19 contact tracing:  

 Take a first look at Apple and Google's ambitious new COVID-19 contact tracing 
technology that will send you a notification if you were near someone who has 
the coronavirus

* Face ID can now detect if you’re wearing a mask and skip directly to 

Re: Applevis blog about iOS 13.5

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'm pretty much using either a bluetooth headset, or bluetooth speaker
with my iPhone pretty much all the time.  So I keep bluetooth on.

On 5/20/20, Dennis Long  wrote:
> You can opt out of the notification.  I turned it off.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 3:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Applevis blog about iOS 13.5
>
>
>
> Bluetooth takes so little power, I leave it on.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening,
> it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>
>
>
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
>
> www.turner42.com 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Kathy Brandt   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Does the contact tracing kick in whether or not you enable it? For it to
> work I suppose Bluetooth would have to be turned on. That uses up battery
> power, so I don’t unless it’s absolutely necessary. So, I hope we’re not
> talking about something that just takes over what I choose to do with my
> device.
>
>
> On May 20, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Robin Frost   > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Well it's now on all 3 of my devices 2 public release one which has beta
> profile. All now say #iOS13.5 and I still have the on going issue of
> #VoiceOver not speaking the name of the contact which populates the to field
> when composing a new message. How terribly disappointing.
>
> Robin
>
>
>
> On 5/20/2020 1:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>
>
> Apple Releases iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 With Exposure Notification API and
> Face Mask Detection for Face ID
>
>
> Submitted by AppleVis on 20 May, 2020
>
> 
> 
>
> Apple has today released iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 to the public, with
> Exposure Notification API, faster Face ID unlocking when wearing a face
> mask, a new option to automatically share selected health data with
> emergency services, and more.
>
>
> Bug Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5
>
>
> Our testing suggests that the following pre-existing accessibility bugs have
> been resolved in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5:
>
> *
> 
> Temporary banners now correctly disappear after a few seconds.
>
> *
> 
> VoiceOver no longer wrongly reports some blocks of text as being editable
> text fields.
>
> * Apple appears to have made some improvements to
> 
> the bug which prevented websites from inverting colors when both Dark Mode
> and Smart Invert are enabled. Our testing suggests that there are still
> instances when websites will not invert.
>
> At the time of writing, we are unaware of any new bugs for blind or low
> vision users in today's releases. However, as we always stress, we can make
> no claims on the completeness or accuracy of our testing. We are only a
> small team, and it is simply impossible for us to test all devices,
> configurations, applications, and use cases. Accordingly, to help us ensure
> that the information on this page is as complete and accurate as possible,
> please let us know in the comments of any fixes; enhancements; or
> regressions that you find in your own use of iOS 13.5 or iPadOS 13.5.
>
>
> General Changes in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5
>
>
> * iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 include Apple and Google’s new Exposure
> Notification API for COVID-19 contact tracing:
> 

Re: bard mobile

[Richard Turner]

Yes.
I wrote them.
They are working very hard to figure out what caused the issue.
The only way to effectively use the app is either to browse the recently added 
books, previous downloads, or magazines.
You can also use BARD Express on your computer, find a book and add it to your 
Wish List; and download it that way.
Believe me, they are busting their buns to get this fixed.
This is where patience is required, not to mention giving them credit for a 
great service.
But something glitched, and it will take time for them to sort it out.


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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On May 20, 2020, at 3:40 PM, deidre muccio  wrote:

does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing 
difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site 
that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed one 
out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The link to 
write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also now missing 
from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to be the case. and 
not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the app. I don't believe 
that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is spiffying  up their 
website with added graphics or visuals like Learning Ally did after they took 
it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined a perfectly simple to 
navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't suit someone visually 
impaired but probably works for others just fine.

does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone number 
and call them in the morning.

Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience

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Re: Applevis blog about iOS 13.5

[Richard Turner]

Bluetooth takes so little power, I leave it on.


Richard
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On May 20, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:


Does the contact tracing kick in whether or not you enable it? For it to work I 
suppose Bluetooth would have to be turned on. That uses up battery power, so I 
don’t unless it’s absolutely necessary. So, I hope we’re not talking about 
something that just takes over what I choose to do with my device.

On May 20, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Robin Frost 
mailto:robin...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Hi,

Well it's now on all 3 of my devices 2 public release one which has beta 
profile. All now say #iOS13.5 and I still have the on going issue of #VoiceOver 
not speaking the name of the contact which populates the to field when 
composing a new message. How terribly disappointing.

Robin


On 5/20/2020 1:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Apple Releases iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 With Exposure Notification API and Face 
Mask Detection for Face ID

Submitted by AppleVis on 20 May, 2020


Apple has today released iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 to the public, with Exposure 
Notification API, faster Face ID unlocking when wearing a face mask, a new 
option to automatically share selected health data with emergency services, and 
more.

Bug Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5

Our testing suggests that the following pre-existing accessibility bugs have 
been resolved in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5:
·Temporary banners now correctly disappear after a few 
seconds.
·VoiceOver no longer wrongly reports some blocks of text as being 
editable text 
fields.
·Apple appears to have made some improvements to the bug which 
prevented websites from inverting colors when both Dark Mode and Smart Invert 
are 
enabled.
 Our testing suggests that there are still instances when websites will not 
invert.

At the time of writing, we are unaware of any new bugs for blind or low vision 
users in today's releases. However, as we always stress, we can make no claims 
on the completeness or accuracy of our testing. We are only a small team, and 
it is simply impossible for us to test all devices, configurations, 
applications, and use cases. Accordingly, to help us ensure that the 
information on this page is as complete and accurate as possible, please let us 
know in the comments of any fixes; enhancements; or regressions that you find 
in your own use of iOS 13.5 or iPadOS 13.5.

General Changes in iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5
·iOS 13.5 and iPadOS 13.5 include Apple and Google’s new Exposure 
Notification API for COVID-19 contact tracing: Take a first look at Apple and 
Google's ambitious new COVID-19 contact tracing technology that will send you a 
notification if you were near someone who has the 
coronavirus
·Face ID can now detect if you’re wearing a mask and skip directly to 
the passcode screen if so: Apple wants to make Face ID work better with your 
face mask. Here's what we 

RE: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY available soon!

[Carolyn]

Indeed, that is a very good deed, Curtis. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
ann...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY 
available soon!

Awesome!  Thank you for taking on such a mammoth task!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Curtis 
Delzer
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:02 PM
To: Blind_technical discussion list ; BlindAds 
; 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
Subject: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY 
available soon!

I have taken on the project of making Michael's book available with DAISY 
markings so you can listen via your stream, or even your NLS player where you 
can navigate to hundreds of headings. If you put one of the text formats into 
the stream, for example, the only access to levels you have are screens and 
paragraphs for serious navigation points. The one I am creating will give you 
access to hundreds of locations which make logical sense in a 1300 page work. 
The voice I'll initially use is TextWare James, initially, but there will be at 
least 3 versions created with different voices, and I want some input on which 
is your favorite voice. Remember this is a work which starts from nothing, 
meaning that the blind user is taken from a state of unawareness to a complete 
understanding of how IOS and the iPhone work, as far as anyone would want to go 
because after you've read this book, any question you have is a matter of 
re-reading that section again, truly.
All that can happen is a further development of the IOS and features which 
could be added, but you will be not only ready for them, you'll be anxious to 
put into practice what you know with complete assurance.
I have also taken the liberty of spelling words which are either author's names 
or unusual names of apps he recommends and/or uses, have describe what the 
heading levels are used primarily for, and recording it at a good enough level 
to avoid artifacts because I am not concerned about bandwidth. When the book is 
done, I'll make it available in either 3gp format, suitable for NLS and Victor 
Stream playing and the smallest footprint in space on your storage device, or 
48K *.mp3s which will be a good compromise for those who absolutely must use 
*.,mp3 files with the DAISY markup included.
I shall announce when I am done, and where to get it.
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RE: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY available soon!

[kitty hevener]

Curtis, thank you for taking on such a huge project.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Curtis Delzer
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:02 PM
To: Blind_technical discussion list ; BlindAds 
; 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
Subject: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY 
available soon!

I have taken on the project of making Michael's book available with DAISY 
markings so you can listen via your stream, or even your NLS player where you 
can navigate to hundreds of headings. If you put one of the text formats into 
the stream, for example, the only access to levels you have are screens and 
paragraphs for serious navigation points. The one I am creating will give you 
access to hundreds of locations which make logical sense in a 1300 page work. 
The voice I'll initially use is TextWare James, initially, but there will be at 
least 3 versions created with different voices, and I want some input on which 
is your favorite voice. Remember this is a work which starts from nothing, 
meaning that the blind user is taken from a state of unawareness to a complete 
understanding of how IOS and the iPhone work, as far as anyone would want to go 
because after you've read this book, any question you have is a matter of 
re-reading that section again, truly.
All that can happen is a further development of the IOS and features which 
could be added, but you will be not only ready for them, you'll be anxious to 
put into practice what you know with complete assurance.
I have also taken the liberty of spelling words which are either author's names 
or unusual names of apps he recommends and/or uses, have describe what the 
heading levels are used primarily for, and recording it at a good enough level 
to avoid artifacts because I am not concerned about bandwidth. When the book is 
done, I'll make it available in either 3gp format, suitable for NLS and Victor 
Stream playing and the smallest footprint in space on your storage device, or 
48K *.mp3s which will be a good compromise for those who absolutely must use 
*.,mp3 files with the DAISY markup included.
I shall announce when I am done, and where to get it.
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Re: bard mobile

[deidre muccio]

they are in deed a phenomenally fabulous organization. I talked them up all the 
time to newly blinded persons that I encounter. Barrd is top of my list-A true 
Lifeline. I am surprised that this sort of problem is that complicated I was 
grateful several weeks ago that they  put out a notice saying that those were 
problems they were having so that some of us didn't think the problem was at 
our end. they also specified what you did about which types of materials were 
still available. I have a list of things I was so hoping to be able to access. 
I think I'll  see if Learning Ally has them.
Deidre




Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2020, at 7:44 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On that same site, you can download the BARD Express for Windows application 
> where you can search for books and add them to your wish list with alt+w once 
> you are on the book you want.
> You only have to log in with BARD Express once.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bard mobile
>  
> Remember that this all started when they attempted to do an upgrade that 
> failed. Then when they attempted to reinstall the old one is when this stuff 
> started. I can log in  to use the browse bard section the first try most of 
> the time, but if I switch to another app, then go back to bard, I have to log 
> in again. I hope they will fix it, I hope this having to log in again doesn't 
> mean they had too many times of an unauthorized person hacking the site and 
> downloading books. I assume you have written to 
> nlsdownlo...@loc.gov 
> to urge them to figure it out. In  the meantime, there site on the web works 
> well with Safari, it is very similar to the browse bard section of the app. 
> Try 
> https://nlsbard.loc.gov/login/mainpage/NLS 
> Arnold Schmidt 
>  
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
> 
> On May 20, 2020, at 6:40 PM, deidre muccio  wrote:
> 
> does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing 
> difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site 
> that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed one 
> out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The link to 
> write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also now missing 
> from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to be the case. 
> and not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the app. I don't 
> believe that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is spiffying  up 
> their website with added graphics or visuals like Learning Ally did after 
> they took it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined a perfectly 
> simple to navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't suit someone 
> visually impaired but probably works for others just fine.
> 
> does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone 
> number and call them in the morning.
> 
> Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience
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RE: bard mobile

[Richard Turner]

On that same site, you can download the BARD Express for Windows application 
where you can search for books and add them to your wish list with alt+w once 
you are on the book you want.
You only have to log in with BARD Express once.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bard mobile

Remember that this all started when they attempted to do an upgrade that 
failed. Then when they attempted to reinstall the old one is when this stuff 
started. I can log in  to use the browse bard section the first try most of the 
time, but if I switch to another app, then go back to bard, I have to log in 
again. I hope they will fix it, I hope this having to log in again doesn't mean 
they had too many times of an unauthorized person hacking the site and 
downloading books. I assume you have written to
nlsdownlo...@loc.gov
to urge them to figure it out. In  the meantime, there site on the web works 
well with Safari, it is very similar to the browse bard section of the app. Try
https://nlsbard.loc.gov/login/mainpage/NLS
Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On May 20, 2020, at 6:40 PM, deidre muccio 
mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing 
difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site 
that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed one 
out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The link to 
write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also now missing 
from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to be the case. and 
not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the app. I don't believe 
that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is spiffying  up their 
website with added graphics or visuals like Learning Ally did after they took 
it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined a perfectly simple to 
navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't suit someone visually 
impaired but probably works for others just fine.

does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone number 
and call them in the morning.

Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience

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RE: Closing All Open Apps

[Dennis Long]

I agree.  I do the same thing.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Closing All Open Apps

 

Nope.

You get to close them one at a time.

Hence, the reason I close them fairly often to keep from having to flick up 
with three fingers dozens of times.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:07 AM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Closing All Open Apps

 

Howdy All,

 

Is there a gesture for closing all open apps?  If so, would someone please 
inform me as to what this gesture is?  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

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auto speak not enabling on series 5 Apple Watch

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
I have updated to the latest watchOS and iOS today.
I have an Apple Watch series 5 and an iPhone XS max.
Apps on my Apple Watch as complications, which previously I could enable auto 
speak on, are not enabled after I double tap on enable auto speak. This happens 
with every app on the watch face that I try.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: bard mobile

[Marie]

I am stumped over this, because I have used both the Bard mobile app on my 
iPhone and the web site on my PC with absolutely no problems of any kind?
Is this only occurring in some places or...? 
I just both today.

Marie

From: Arnold Schmidt 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: bard mobile

Remember that this all started when they attempted to do an upgrade that 
failed. Then when they attempted to reinstall the old one is when this stuff 
started. I can log in  to use the browse bard section the first try most of the 
time, but if I switch to another app, then go back to bard, I have to log in 
again. I hope they will fix it, I hope this having to log in again doesn't mean 
they had too many times of an unauthorized person hacking the site and 
downloading books. I assume you have written to  
nlsdownlo...@loc.gov 
to urge them to figure it out. In  the meantime, there site on the web works 
well with Safari, it is very similar to the browse bard section of the app. Try 
https://nlsbard.loc.gov/login/mainpage/NLS 
Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On May 20, 2020, at 6:40 PM, deidre muccio  wrote:


does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing 
difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site 
that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed one 
out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The link to 
write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also now missing 
from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to be the case. and 
not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the app. I don't believe 
that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is spiffying  up their 
website with added graphics or visuals like Learning Ally did after they took 
it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined a perfectly simple to 
navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't suit someone visually 
impaired but probably works for others just fine.

does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone number 
and call them in the morning.

Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience

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Re: bard mobile

[Arnold Schmidt]

Everything works fine, except the bard website section, under the get books 
tab. It use to stay logged in, but now I have to log in every time I want to 
access this section. Luckily for me, I usually get logged in on the first 
attempt, for others, it takes two or three attempts, still others can't log in 
at all. 

Arnold Schmidt 

On May 20, 2020, at 9:07 PM, Marie  wrote:

I am stumped over this, because I have used both the Bard mobile app on my 
iPhone and the web site on my PC with absolutely no problems of any kind?
Is this only occurring in some places or...?
I just both today.
 
Marie
 
From: Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bard mobile
 
Remember that this all started when they attempted to do an upgrade that 
failed. Then when they attempted to reinstall the old one is when this stuff 
started. I can log in  to use the browse bard section the first try most of the 
time, but if I switch to another app, then go back to bard, I have to log in 
again. I hope they will fix it, I hope this having to log in again doesn't mean 
they had too many times of an unauthorized person hacking the site and 
downloading books. I assume you have written to 
nlsdownlo...@loc.gov 
to urge them to figure it out. In  the meantime, there site on the web works 
well with Safari, it is very similar to the browse bard section of the app. Try
https://nlsbard.loc.gov/login/mainpage/NLS 
Arnold Schmidt
 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On May 20, 2020, at 6:40 PM, deidre muccio  wrote:

does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing 
difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site 
that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed one 
out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The link to 
write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also now missing 
from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to be the case. and 
not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the app. I don't believe 
that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is spiffying  up their 
website with added graphics or visuals like Learning Ally did after they took 
it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined a perfectly simple to 
navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't suit someone visually 
impaired but probably works for others just fine.

does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone number 
and call them in the morning.

Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience

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Re: bard mobile

[Joshua Hendrickson]

That's what I do.  It is so easy to add books to your wish list with
bard express, then download them with the bard mobile app.

On 5/20/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> On that same site, you can download the BARD Express for Windows application
> where you can search for books and add them to your wish list with alt+w
> once you are on the book you want.
> You only have to log in with BARD Express once.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
> Oregon.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bard mobile
>
> Remember that this all started when they attempted to do an upgrade that
> failed. Then when they attempted to reinstall the old one is when this stuff
> started. I can log in  to use the browse bard section the first try most of
> the time, but if I switch to another app, then go back to bard, I have to
> log in again. I hope they will fix it, I hope this having to log in again
> doesn't mean they had too many times of an unauthorized person hacking the
> site and downloading books. I assume you have written to
> nlsdownlo...@loc.gov
> to urge them to figure it out. In  the meantime, there site on the web works
> well with Safari, it is very similar to the browse bard section of the app.
> Try
> https://nlsbard.loc.gov/login/mainpage/NLS
> Arnold Schmidt
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>
> On May 20, 2020, at 6:40 PM, deidre muccio
> mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing
> difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site
> that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed
> one out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The
> link to write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also
> now missing from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to
> be the case. and not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the
> app. I don't believe that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is
> spiffying  up their website with added graphics or visuals like Learning
> Ally did after they took it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined
> a perfectly simple to navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't
> suit someone visually impaired but probably works for others just fine.
>
> does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone
> number and call them in the morning.
>
> Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience
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Re: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY available soon!

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

Holy cow!  What a huge an amazing project!  Thanks to all who are taking this 
on.


Kim

> On May 20, 2020, at 5:37 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Curtis, thank you for taking on such a huge project.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Curtis Delzer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:02 PM
> To: Blind_technical discussion list ; BlindAds 
> ; 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
> 
> Subject: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY 
> available soon!
> 
> I have taken on the project of making Michael's book available with DAISY 
> markings so you can listen via your stream, or even your NLS player where you 
> can navigate to hundreds of headings. If you put one of the text formats into 
> the stream, for example, the only access to levels you have are screens and 
> paragraphs for serious navigation points. The one I am creating will give you 
> access to hundreds of locations which make logical sense in a 1300 page work. 
> The voice I'll initially use is TextWare James, initially, but there will be 
> at least 3 versions created with different voices, and I want some input on 
> which is your favorite voice. Remember this is a work which starts from 
> nothing, meaning that the blind user is taken from a state of unawareness to 
> a complete understanding of how IOS and the iPhone work, as far as anyone 
> would want to go because after you've read this book, any question you have 
> is a matter of re-reading that section again, truly.
> All that can happen is a further development of the IOS and features which 
> could be added, but you will be not only ready for them, you'll be anxious to 
> put into practice what you know with complete assurance.
> I have also taken the liberty of spelling words which are either author's 
> names or unusual names of apps he recommends and/or uses, have describe what 
> the heading levels are used primarily for, and recording it at a good enough 
> level to avoid artifacts because I am not concerned about bandwidth. When the 
> book is done, I'll make it available in either 3gp format, suitable for NLS 
> and Victor Stream playing and the smallest footprint in space on your storage 
> device, or 48K *.mp3s which will be a good compromise for those who 
> absolutely must use *.,mp3 files with the DAISY markup included.
> I shall announce when I am done, and where to get it.
> --
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> K 6 V F O
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Re: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY available soon!

[Richard Turner]

I discovered that converting it to ePub and opening it in Voice Dream Reader, 
all the headings are there, and you can also use its fabulous search feature.
The only issue is that it ends up with a title of "unknown" and my last name.
I'm trying to sort out which file to edit to get the title and author correct 
before offering it as well.


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On May 20, 2020, at 5:46 PM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Holy cow!  What a huge an amazing project!  Thanks to all who are taking this 
on.


Kim

On May 20, 2020, at 5:37 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:

Curtis, thank you for taking on such a huge project.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Curtis Delzer
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:02 PM
To: Blind_technical discussion list ; BlindAds 
; 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
Subject: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY 
available soon!

I have taken on the project of making Michael's book available with DAISY 
markings so you can listen via your stream, or even your NLS player where you 
can navigate to hundreds of headings. If you put one of the text formats into 
the stream, for example, the only access to levels you have are screens and 
paragraphs for serious navigation points. The one I am creating will give you 
access to hundreds of locations which make logical sense in a 1300 page work. 
The voice I'll initially use is TextWare James, initially, but there will be at 
least 3 versions created with different voices, and I want some input on which 
is your favorite voice. Remember this is a work which starts from nothing, 
meaning that the blind user is taken from a state of unawareness to a complete 
understanding of how IOS and the iPhone work, as far as anyone would want to go 
because after you've read this book, any question you have is a matter of 
re-reading that section again, truly.
All that can happen is a further development of the IOS and features which 
could be added, but you will be not only ready for them, you'll be anxious to 
put into practice what you know with complete assurance.
I have also taken the liberty of spelling words which are either author's names 
or unusual names of apps he recommends and/or uses, have describe what the 
heading levels are used primarily for, and recording it at a good enough level 
to avoid artifacts because I am not concerned about bandwidth. When the book is 
done, I'll make it available in either 3gp format, suitable for NLS and Victor 
Stream playing and the smallest footprint in space on your storage device, or 
48K *.mp3s which will be a good compromise for those who absolutely must use 
*.,mp3 files with the DAISY markup included.
I shall announce when I am done, and where to get it.
--
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HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

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Re: bard mobile

[Joshua Hendrickson]

The easy solution to this problem at least for now, is to not search
for books to download on the main bard website.  It isn't that
difficult.

On 5/20/20, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> Everything works fine, except the bard website section, under the get books
> tab. It use to stay logged in, but now I have to log in every time I want to
> access this section. Luckily for me, I usually get logged in on the first
> attempt, for others, it takes two or three attempts, still others can't log
> in at all.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
> On May 20, 2020, at 9:07 PM, Marie  wrote:
>
> I am stumped over this, because I have used both the Bard mobile app on my
> iPhone and the web site on my PC with absolutely no problems of any kind?
> Is this only occurring in some places or...?
> I just both today.
>
> Marie
>
> From: Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bard mobile
>
> Remember that this all started when they attempted to do an upgrade that
> failed. Then when they attempted to reinstall the old one is when this stuff
> started. I can log in  to use the browse bard section the first try most of
> the time, but if I switch to another app, then go back to bard, I have to
> log in again. I hope they will fix it, I hope this having to log in again
> doesn't mean they had too many times of an unauthorized person hacking the
> site and downloading books. I assume you have written to
> nlsdownlo...@loc.gov
> to urge them to figure it out. In  the meantime, there site on the web works
> well with Safari, it is very similar to the browse bard section of the app.
> Try
> https://nlsbard.loc.gov/login/mainpage/NLS
> Arnold Schmidt
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>
> On May 20, 2020, at 6:40 PM, deidre muccio 
> wrote:
>
> does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing
> difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site
> that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed
> one out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The
> link to write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also
> now missing from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to
> be the case. and not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the
> app. I don't believe that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is
> spiffying  up their website with added graphics or visuals like Learning
> Ally did after they took it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined
> a perfectly simple to navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't
> suit someone visually impaired but probably works for others just fine.
>
> does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone
> number and call them in the morning.
>
> Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience
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Re: bard mobile

[Arnold Schmidt]

Before giving up on bard, go to 
nlsb...@loc.gov
via safari and log into that. You will be able to search for your books there 
and add them to your wish list. Then, go back to your bard app and download 
them using your wish list which should work. It should be logged in to be able 
to do that. if indeed you can't even do this, then your problem is worse than 
usual, and the people at 
nlsdownl...@gmail.com
will want to know about your situation. The only reason I have heard of people 
having the logging in problem is when they want to use the bard website 
section, the other stuff should work. 

Arnold Schmidt 
 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On May 20, 2020, at 11:15 PM, deidre muccio  wrote:

they are in deed a phenomenally fabulous organization. I talked them up all the 
time to newly blinded persons that I encounter. Barrd is top of my list-A true 
Lifeline. I am surprised that this sort of problem is that complicated I was 
grateful several weeks ago that they  put out a notice saying that those were 
problems they were having so that some of us didn't think the problem was at 
our end. they also specified what you did about which types of materials were 
still available. I have a list of things I was so hoping to be able to access. 
I think I'll  see if Learning Ally has them.
Deidre




Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2020, at 7:44 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On that same site, you can download the BARD Express for Windows application 
> where you can search for books and add them to your wish list with alt+w once 
> you are on the book you want.
> You only have to log in with BARD Express once.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bard mobile
>  
> Remember that this all started when they attempted to do an upgrade that 
> failed. Then when they attempted to reinstall the old one is when this stuff 
> started. I can log in  to use the browse bard section the first try most of 
> the time, but if I switch to another app, then go back to bard, I have to log 
> in again. I hope they will fix it, I hope this having to log in again doesn't 
> mean they had too many times of an unauthorized person hacking the site and 
> downloading books. I assume you have written to 
> nlsdownlo...@loc.gov 
> to urge them to figure it out. In  the meantime, there site on the web works 
> well with Safari, it is very similar to the browse bard section of the app. 
> Try 
> https://nlsbard.loc.gov/login/mainpage/NLS 
> Arnold Schmidt 
>  
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
> 
> On May 20, 2020, at 6:40 PM, deidre muccio  wrote:
> 
> does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing 
> difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site 
> that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed one 
> out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The link to 
> write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also now missing 
> from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to be the case. 
> and not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the app. I don't 
> believe that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is spiffying  up 
> their website with added graphics or visuals like Learning Ally did after 
> they took it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined a perfectly 
> simple to navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't suit someone 
> visually impaired but probably works for others just fine.
> 
> does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone 
> number and call them in the morning.
> 
> Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience
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RE: OK folks go get it

[Dennis Long]

 Gordon Is battery optimization turned on?

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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: OK folks go get it

IOS 13.5 is now live for public consumption. I can tell you I've had it for a 
couple of days now and have never seen better battery life on any IOS version. 
I think you'll be pleased if you see my same results.

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Michael Fier's Personal Power, ePub version

[Richard Turner]

Hello,
I was able to convert Michael Fier's book into an ePub that will read in Voice 
Dream Reader with 3 heading levels.
It inherited the levels Michael put in his document.
It is downloadable from my web site;
www.turner42.com
In the heading for Apple related Books.
Or, this link will take you directly to the file:
http://www.turner42.com/PersonalPower-The-iOSEdition.epub

I hope this is useful.

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RE: New Simm cards

[Dennis Long]

He should be able to reuse the old one.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:59 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: New Simm cards

 

I know there was discussion about this earlier but, at the time It was not 
something I was interested in or had a need for. Now, my son-in-law is planning 
to upgrade his old IPhone 6 to the new SE. Can he use the card from the old 
phone or does he have to have a new one?

Sorry for re-asking.

Marie

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Re: bard mobile

[Richard Turner]

If you use the BARD Express program on a Windows computer, you will only have 
to log in once, and the interface is very easy to use and to then add books to 
your wish list.
And yes, in the app, everything works other than the BARD web site piece.


Richard
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On May 20, 2020, at 10:26 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

 Before giving up on bard, go to
nlsb...@loc.gov
via safari and log into that. You will be able to search for your books there 
and add them to your wish list. Then, go back to your bard app and download 
them using your wish list which should work. It should be logged in to be able 
to do that. if indeed you can't even do this, then your problem is worse than 
usual, and the people at
nlsdownl...@gmail.com
will want to know about your situation. The only reason I have heard of people 
having the logging in problem is when they want to use the bard website 
section, the other stuff should work.

Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On May 20, 2020, at 11:15 PM, deidre muccio 
mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:

they are in deed a phenomenally fabulous organization. I talked them up all the 
time to newly blinded persons that I encounter. Barrd is top of my list-A true 
Lifeline. I am surprised that this sort of problem is that complicated I was 
grateful several weeks ago that they  put out a notice saying that those were 
problems they were having so that some of us didn't think the problem was at 
our end. they also specified what you did about which types of materials were 
still available. I have a list of things I was so hoping to be able to access. 
I think I'll  see if Learning Ally has them.
Deidre




Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2020, at 7:44 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


On that same site, you can download the BARD Express for Windows application 
where you can search for books and add them to your wish list with alt+w once 
you are on the book you want.
You only have to log in with BARD Express once.



Richard
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Subject: Re: bard mobile

Remember that this all started when they attempted to do an upgrade that 
failed. Then when they attempted to reinstall the old one is when this stuff 
started. I can log in  to use the browse bard section the first try most of the 
time, but if I switch to another app, then go back to bard, I have to log in 
again. I hope they will fix it, I hope this having to log in again doesn't mean 
they had too many times of an unauthorized person hacking the site and 
downloading books. I assume you have written to
nlsdownlo...@loc.gov
to urge them to figure it out. In  the meantime, there site on the web works 
well with Safari, it is very similar to the browse bard section of the app. Try
https://nlsbard.loc.gov/login/mainpage/NLS
Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On May 20, 2020, at 6:40 PM, deidre muccio 
mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
does anyone remember how a few weeks ago some of us were experiencing 
difficulty in logging onto Bard mobile? And there was a message on the site 
that said they were working on that? Well it hasn't been fixed. I succeed one 
out of every three times in logging in with the same exact info, The link to 
write them is not working. And the at symbol and the period. also now missing 
from the keyboard when  on  their website which didn't used to be the case. and 
not just that, you can't stay logged in if you close the app. I don't believe 
that was the case before either. I wonder if Bard is spiffying  up their 
website with added graphics or visuals like Learning Ally did after they took 
it over from recordings for the blind. They ruined a perfectly simple to 
navigate site with who knows what crap that doesn't suit someone visually 
impaired but probably works for others just fine.

does anyone know what the scoop on any of this is? I'll look for a phone number 
and call them in the morning.

Deidre, Who has definitely run out of patience

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RE: Logitech Keyboard k480 and iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

I have but I don't as a default.

But what is it you're having trouble with.

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Cramer
Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2020 5:29 PM
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Subject: Logitech Keyboard k480 and iPhone

Hello,
Does anyone use a Logitech k480 with their iPhone?
I'm trying to pair mine but I'm missing something.
I moved the dial to where I wanted it set and did the usual settings, 
Bluetooth, and it isn't discovering the keyboard.
Am I missing a step?
Tom

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RE: what are good non glass screen protectors

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi dennis

The best ones I’ve found are a glass type,
But very worth while as are a good quality case / cover for your phone.

Where do you hide on the globe?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
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Are there any good screen protectors that aren’t glass?
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RE: what are good non glass screen protectors

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I get someone else to do it now,

I've tried a couple of times with the plastic protector and it ended bubbly.

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Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2020 9:30 AM
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I think that could be right. We bought our tablet from a blind person - 
wonderful tablet, all good about everything, except that my husband said, when 
it is off, he can see that bubble, you mentioned. It is a plastic screen 
protector. I told him, just remove it, but he said it was OK. 

-Original Message-
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chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 4:28 PM
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Subject: RE: what are good non glass screen protectors

My experience was exactly the opposite. I found glass screen protectors so much 
easier to line up and apply. The plastic screen protectors, since they're 
flexible, are so much harder to line up and apply with out ending up with 
bubbles, at least for me.

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Difficulty in lining them up.  Plus I don't know anyone who is 
> comfortable in putting  a glass one on.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> 
> Why would you want one, when they have such good tempered glass ones now?
> Plus cases have lips that tend to protect the screens.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
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RE: new iPhone SE colors?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah the colours are only black, white and red,

The red I’ve heard described as a blueish red,

Or what apple call product red, a dollar from each of the red phones goes to 
aids research

Where did you order your phone from?
And remember folks it only takes a couple of days for the phone you want to 
come in from apple if you purchase directly from them.
And they give 3 storage sizes and 3 colours.
Something the phone providers are not doing.
Wednesday, 20 May 2020 4:01 PM
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Subject: RE: new iPhone SE colors?

I ordered the black one it was the only one in stock.  I wanted Red but didn’t 
want to wait days or weeks for it to come in.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:51 PM
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Subject: new iPhone SE colors?

In looking through the SE2020’s colors, I no longer see Space gray. What is its 
equivalent? What colors have you guys ordered yours, or that look nice like the 
Space Gray did in its time?


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RE: new SE questions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Dennis,

I tend to always use the phone until the battery runs dead for the first time 
then charge overnight for approx. 15 hours and then use again until dead and re 
charge.


I don’t worry about the charging out of the box.

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Did those that transferred the data from there old to the new Phone Charge the 
new SE first or does it normally have enough power for the first setup and 
transfer?
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RE: what are good non glass screen protectors

[Dennis Long]

I’m in a small town in the USA.  Pennsylvania to be exact.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 3:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi dennis 

 

The best ones I’ve found are a glass type,

But very worth while as are a good quality case / cover for your phone.

 

Where do you hide on the globe?

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2020 4:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: what are good non glass screen protectors

 

Are there any good screen protectors that aren’t glass?

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Re: Transferring music from old to new phone?

[Richard Turner]

it all transferred for me.


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On May 19, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

With 95% possibility of getting myself teh the new SE within the next few 
days, I’m wondering if music that I’ve on this SE, if via the phone to phone 
transfer offered within the setup, will the music be transferred over, or would 
I need to use ITunes (connecting the new SE to the computer) to transfer the 
music?Thanks for info and experiences.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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Re: Logitech Keyboard k480 and iPhone

[Richard Turner]

Did you hold down the button to put it in pairing mode after turning it on?
It is the right-hand most of the two rectangular keys that are by themselves on 
the just below the slot for an iPad on the top opposite of the dial.
You need to hold that in for several seconds while in the bluetooth settings.
The keyboard will show up toward the end of the bluetooth settings after the 
words other devices.
Are you sure you have it powered on?


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On May 20, 2020, at 12:05 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

I have but I don't as a default.

But what is it you're having trouble with.

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Cramer
Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2020 5:29 PM
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Subject: Logitech Keyboard k480 and iPhone

Hello,
Does anyone use a Logitech k480 with their iPhone?
I'm trying to pair mine but I'm missing something.
I moved the dial to where I wanted it set and did the usual settings, 
Bluetooth, and it isn't discovering the keyboard.
Am I missing a step?
Tom

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