RE: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You must live in a part of the world which may experience serious 
storms/hurricanes where power outages can last many days.
Anker has such a solution as well, 2400 Watts (2048 WH or Watt Hours) with a 
second battery to double that capacity and an optional 200 Watt capacity solar 
charging panel:
Anker SOLIX F2000 (PowerHouse 767) - 2048Wh | 2400W - Anker Canada
And there is another company called Bluetty which does similar stuff.
Of course most people don't want to require a backpack to lug around their 
battery and at least for me I don't need a separate hotspot because I have a 
lot of data for my iPhone and if I want to use my laptop somewhere I don't have 
Wi-Fi I can simply use my iPhone as a hotspot.



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Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 2:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

Hi.

I'll throw another power bank to consider. It's a lot more expensive, but for 
what it does, it's great. Check out

http://goalzero.com

They make a battery that works quite well. I have two of these, the Yeti 200X 
and the Yeti 1000X. The numbers refer to the wattage these give. The 200X has 
an AC plug on it, two USB A, 2 USB c, and a 12 volt plug, which is a lighter 
adaptor. It has a display on it, and weighs six pounds. I put it in a back pack 
to power my 5G hot spot. The 1000X has the same plugs on it, with the addition 
of a second AC outlet. As I said, these ain't cheap, the 200X costing about 
$300, and the 1000X costing about $1,400. The 1000X is pretty large, but I got 
it for a long lasting backup to power my internet, computer, and smart 
speakers. If you want portability, what I'm mentioning isn't the best solution, 
but it works for me.

Just throwing something out there. Oh yeah, the 1000X can have another battery 
added to it to give even longer lasting backup. I might do that at a later 
time, but I think this adds $400 to the cost. These batteries also can have 
solar cells added to them to charge them.

Kevin and Jilly

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Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 4:44 PM
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Anker makes great power banks, so does Mophie, Ugreen and Otterbox.

> On Nov 24, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use with my 
> iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am not a techie 
> and sighted assistance is normally not available.  So, Be My Eyes etc. would 
> have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently heard about some 
> models from Energrid that are supposed to be portable and accessible sold by 
> Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have never dealt with.
> 
> I've heard about Anker products recommended many times on lists and I have an 
> Amazon gift certificate.  The iPhone is my only Apple product, but if there 
> is some way I could also connect either my Victor Reader Stream 2 or VRS 3, 
> that would be great.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
> 
> Margaret
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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

But as a word of caution, if you rely on iTunes for backups or transferring 
files then don't install the Apple Music app because if you do iTunes won't 
work at all any more until you uninstall Apple Music.

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You want the version of iTunes downloaded from apple, not the one from 
Microsoft.  It wasn't until I got the version of iTunes from apple, that I was 
able to use iTunes successfully on my windows11 machine.

On 11/25/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
> Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version 
> downloaded from Apple or the one from the Microsoft Store?
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> My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize 
> dialogue appears repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each 
> song over and over again. Why?
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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And I heard from at least one or two people over the last couple of years that 
the Microsoft Store version works better.
There are also the new Apple apps, Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices 
which ultimately will replace iTunes.
I don't really use iTunes on the computer any more, but just out of curiosity I 
installed the Apple Music app and it works quite well.

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Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

You want the version of iTunes downloaded from apple, not the one from 
Microsoft.  It wasn't until I got the version of iTunes from apple, that I was 
able to use iTunes successfully on my windows11 machine.

On 11/25/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
> Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version 
> downloaded from Apple or the one from the Microsoft Store?
>
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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Putting "What is Ninite" into Google gives you the following as the very first 
search tresult:

Ninite - Install or Update Multiple Apps at Once
https://ninite.com
The easiest, fastest way to update or install software. Ninite downloads and 
installs programs automatically in the background.
How Ninite Works | Ninite Help
Ninite automatically downloads and installs the proper 64-bit or ...

If that isn't enoough to give you the idea behind it, click on the link and it 
tells you all about it.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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What is Ninite?


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Try a different version of iTunes.  Grab the one from Ninite.  You should only 
have to authorize i"Tunes once and you should be good to go.

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RE: backdating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks for the tip, I just increased it to what you said, now I have to see how 
that goes over the next couple of days, but if it fixes the issue then this 
would be great although I still think Apple Accessibility should get an email 
from at least 8 out of 10 Voiceover users holding them accountable for screwing 
this up.
I find at times I have the same issue on my Apple Watch Ultra 2.it is 
definitely changed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 7:54 PM
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This might be the setting that you are refering to, but I was experiencing the 
same thing, and I went to Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, and at the bottom 
of that screen you will find, Double Tap Time Out.  If you go into there and 
set it to 0.50 or more.  I did this, and it totally did away with the problem.

Hope this helps.

Chris



On Nov 25, 2023, at 6:44 PM, CJ & AA MAY 
mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com>> wrote:

A friend said she’d been told that going into settings, Accessibility  and then 
voice and changing response from 1.10 to 1.04 helped, and I have tried this, 
and thought initially it had helped but after an afternoon of frustration 
again, I’m not sure it has.
Alison

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: backdating

Yes, this is certainly a bit of an issue for me as well although it is not as 
bad as in the beginning and it’s almost gone in iOS 17.2 which as I said should 
be out maybe not next week, but the week after that.
Anyways, downgrading is not possible any more so you’ll have to put up with it 
until it gets fixed, hopefully you wrote to Apple Accessibility and request in 
strong but nice words that this really needs to be fixed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: backdating

I am currently using 17.1 ad since upgrading the focus keeps jumping, so when I 
go to delete a message, I find myself on a different message. It is often 
unresponsive to my taps, some apps being more prone to this than others, like 
Duo Lingo.
 My friend has upgraded and has none of these issues, which is strange, but I 
am currently finding it very frustrating.
Alison


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: backdating

The time to go back to iOS 16 has long passed, this is only possible for a 
short while after a major new version of iOS comes out, but Apple stops signing 
the older versions usually after a few weeks. Having said this, which iPhone do 
you have and what exactly are you not happy about with iOS 17? iOS 17.2 is 
probably being released in the next couple of weeks and it takes care of a few 
more issues and with the exception with the double tap sometimes registering as 
a single tap, I have very few other problems at this stage.

Here is an article from Mac Rumors regarding the downgrading:

Downgrading an iPhone From iOS 17 to iOS 16 is No Longer Possible
Wednesday October 4, 2023 9:17 pm PDT by
Joe Rossignol
Following the release of iOS 17.0.3 earlier today, Apple has stopped signing 
iOS 16.6.1,
iOS 17, and iOS 17.0.1, preventing iPhone users from downgrading to any of 
those software versions. Apple continues to sign iOS 17.0.2 for now.
Notably, this means that it is no longer possible to downgrade an iPhone from 
iOS 17 to iOS 16. It is not possible to downgrade to iOS 16.7.
Apple routinely stops signing older iOS releases over time in order to prevent 
users from downgrading to previous software versions.
iOS 17.1 is expected to be released later this month.
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Re: backdating

[Chris Chaffin]

This might be the setting that you are refering to, but I was experiencing the same thing, and I went to Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, and at the bottom of that screen you will find, Double Tap Time Out.  If you go into there and set it to 0.50 or more.  I did this, and it totally did away with the problem.Hope this helps.ChrisOn Nov 25, 2023, at 6:44 PM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:A friend said she’d been told that going into settings, Accessibility  and then voice and changing response from 1.10 to 1.04 helped, and I have tried this, and thought initially it had helped but after an afternoon of frustration again, I’m not sure it has.Alison  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 6:17 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: backdating Yes, this is certainly a bit of an issue for me as well although it is not as bad as in the beginning and it’s almost gone in iOS 17.2 which as I said should be out maybe not next week, but the week after that.Anyways, downgrading is not possible any more so you’ll have to put up with it until it gets fixed, hopefully you wrote to Apple Accessibility and request in strong but nice words that this really needs to be fixed. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAYSent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 10:15 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: backdating I am currently using 17.1 ad since upgrading the focus keeps jumping, so when I go to delete a message, I find myself on a different message. It is often unresponsive to my taps, some apps being more prone to this than others, like Duo Lingo.  My friend has upgraded and has none of these issues, which is strange, but I am currently finding it very frustrating.Alison  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 5:18 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: backdating The time to go back to iOS 16 has long passed, this is only possible for a short while after a major new version of iOS comes out, but Apple stops signing the older versions usually after a few weeks. Having said this, which iPhone do you have and what exactly are you not happy about with iOS 17? iOS 17.2 is probably being released in the next couple of weeks and it takes care of a few more issues and with the exception with the double tap sometimes registering as a single tap, I have very few other problems at this stage. Here is an article from Mac Rumors regarding the downgrading: Downgrading an iPhone From iOS 17 to iOS 16 is No Longer PossibleWednesday October 4, 2023 9:17 pm PDT by Joe RossignolFollowing the release of iOS 17.0.3 earlier today, Apple has stopped signing iOS 16.6.1,iOS 17, and iOS 17.0.1, preventing iPhone users from downgrading to any of those software versions. Apple continues to sign iOS 17.0.2 for now.Notably, this means that it is no longer possible to downgrade an iPhone from iOS 17 to iOS 16. It is not possible to downgrade to iOS 16.7.Apple routinely stops signing older iOS releases over time in order to prevent users from downgrading to previous software versions.iOS 17.1 is expected to be released later this month.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656449FFA9638BE4E7CFBBCC7BFA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit 

New version of Brave

[Kelby Carlson]

Does anybody use Brave browser on iOS? I hadn't updated it in awhile, and the 
newest version is basically unusable. VO refuses to focus on any part of the 
screen; the only way to even get to the elements of a page is by going to the 
top or bottom of the screen. Also, the address bar has moved to the bottom of 
the screen, and trying to alter that setting accomplishes nothing.

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RE: backdating

[CJ & AA MAY]

A friend said she’d been told that going into settings, Accessibility  and then 
voice and changing response from 1.10 to 1.04 helped, and I have tried this, 
and thought initially it had helped but after an afternoon of frustration 
again, I’m not sure it has.

Alison

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: backdating

 

Yes, this is certainly a bit of an issue for me as well although it is not as 
bad as in the beginning and it’s almost gone in iOS 17.2 which as I said should 
be out maybe not next week, but the week after that.

Anyways, downgrading is not possible any more so you’ll have to put up with it 
until it gets fixed, hopefully you wrote to Apple Accessibility and request in 
strong but nice words that this really needs to be fixed.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: backdating

 

I am currently using 17.1 ad since upgrading the focus keeps jumping, so when I 
go to delete a message, I find myself on a different message. It is often 
unresponsive to my taps, some apps being more prone to this than others, like 
Duo Lingo. 

 My friend has upgraded and has none of these issues, which is strange, but I 
am currently finding it very frustrating.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: backdating

 

The time to go back to iOS 16 has long passed, this is only possible for a 
short while after a major new version of iOS comes out, but Apple stops signing 
the older versions usually after a few weeks. Having said this, which iPhone do 
you have and what exactly are you not happy about with iOS 17? iOS 17.2 is 
probably being released in the next couple of weeks and it takes care of a few 
more issues and with the exception with the double tap sometimes registering as 
a single tap, I have very few other problems at this stage.

 

Here is an article from Mac Rumors regarding the downgrading:

 

Downgrading an iPhone From iOS 17 to iOS 16 is No Longer Possible

Wednesday October 4, 2023 9:17 pm PDT by 

Joe Rossignol

Following the release of iOS 17.0.3 earlier today, Apple has stopped signing 
iOS 16.6.1,

iOS 17, and iOS 17.0.1, preventing iPhone users from downgrading to any of 
those software versions. Apple continues to sign iOS 17.0.2 for now.

Notably, this means that it is no longer possible to downgrade an iPhone from 
iOS 17 to iOS 16. It is not possible to downgrade to iOS 16.7.

Apple routinely stops signing older iOS releases over time in order to prevent 
users from downgrading to previous software versions.

iOS 17.1 is expected to be released later this month.

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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[llumpkin]

Itunes Version 12.13.0.9
It's the desk top version using windows 11 latest.




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Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 2:29 PM
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I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version 
downloaded from Apple or the one from the Microsoft Store?

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My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize dialogue appears 
repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each song over and over again. 
Why?

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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[llumpkin]

What is Ninite?


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Try a different version of iTunes.  Grab the one from Ninite.  You should only 
have to authorize i"Tunes once and you should be good to go.

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> My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize 
> dialogue appears repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each 
> song over and over again. Why?
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RE: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

I'll throw another power bank to consider. It's a lot more expensive, but for 
what it does, it's great. Check out

http://goalzero.com

They make a battery that works quite well. I have two of these, the Yeti 200X 
and the Yeti 1000X. The numbers refer to the wattage these give. The 200X has 
an AC plug on it, two USB A, 2 USB c, and a 12 volt plug, which is a lighter 
adaptor. It has a display on it, and weighs six pounds. I put it in a back pack 
to power my 5G hot spot. The 1000X has the same plugs on it, with the addition 
of a second AC outlet. As I said, these ain't cheap, the 200X costing about 
$300, and the 1000X costing about $1,400. The 1000X is pretty large, but I got 
it for a long lasting backup to power my internet, computer, and smart 
speakers. If you want portability, what I'm mentioning isn't the best solution, 
but it works for me.

Just throwing something out there. Oh yeah, the 1000X can have another battery 
added to it to give even longer lasting backup. I might do that at a later 
time, but I think this adds $400 to the cost. These batteries also can have 
solar cells added to them to charge them.

Kevin and Jilly

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Anker makes great power banks, so does Mophie, Ugreen and Otterbox.

> On Nov 24, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use with my 
> iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am not a techie 
> and sighted assistance is normally not available.  So, Be My Eyes etc. would 
> have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently heard about some 
> models from Energrid that are supposed to be portable and accessible sold by 
> Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have never dealt with.
> 
> I've heard about Anker products recommended many times on lists and I have an 
> Amazon gift certificate.  The iPhone is my only Apple product, but if there 
> is some way I could also connect either my Victor Reader Stream 2 or VRS 3, 
> that would be great.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
> 
> Margaret
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Re: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Joshua Hendrickson]

You want the version of iTunes downloaded from apple, not the one from
Microsoft.  It wasn't until I got the version of iTunes from apple,
that I was able to use iTunes successfully on my windows11 machine.

On 11/25/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
> Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version
> downloaded from Apple or the one from the Microsoft Store?
>
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>
> My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize dialogue
> appears repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each song over and
> over again. Why?
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Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Mike Arrigo]

Anker makes great power banks, so does Mophie, Ugreen and Otterbox.

> On Nov 24, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use with my 
> iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am not a techie 
> and sighted assistance is normally not available.  So, Be My Eyes etc. would 
> have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently heard about some 
> models from Energrid that are supposed to be portable and accessible sold by 
> Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have never dealt with.
> 
> I've heard about Anker products recommended many times on lists and I have an 
> Amazon gift certificate.  The iPhone is my only Apple product, but if there 
> is some way I could also connect either my Victor Reader Stream 2 or VRS 3, 
> that would be great.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
> 
> Margaret
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RE: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And there is also Hyperjuice which can be found a little on Amazon, but it’s 
primarily via their own store, www.hypershop.com
They started out with a campaign on Indigogo for their 245 Watt battery pack 
and desktop charger, but they have lots of other products now.
I have the big battery and it’s super well-made, all metal and with a display 
(yes, I know, maybe not the best for blind folks), but it has 4 USB-C ports and 
it’s a very large capacity battery if you are looking for something which lasts 
for a long time and this can even charge a laptop as it delivers up to 100 
Watts on 1 or 2 of the ports.
I just ordered their 5000 MAH magnetic charger which is quite small and sticks 
to the back of the iPhone and which was on sale for $34.99 US, but it does not 
come with a wall charger. The nice thing is that it supports pass-through 
charging which means if it is connected to your iPhone and you plug it in to 
charge, it will first fully charge your iPhone and only then the battery will 
start to charge. It also has I believe 1 or 2 additional USB-C ports.
I ordered it along with a 140 Watt wall charger in a small travel format with 
foldable prongs, here some links:

Hyperjuice Magnetic Batterry 
Pack

There is also a 4-in-1 charger which sounds very interesting as many of the 
MagSafe chargers are 3-in-1, but this one offers an extra USB-C port to charge 
an additional device apart from the iPhon/Apple Watch/Airpods magnetic charging 
options and it does offer the full 15 Watts for the fastest charging of the 
newer phones:

HyperJuice 4-in-1 Wireless Charger With 
MagSafe


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

It shows up here as the first entry when I search for Anker 733. I can't think 
of any reason why it wouldn't be available in the US. You could also look at a 
comapny called UGreen which produces similar chargers. Anker certainly isn't 
the only game in town.

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On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 2:11 PM Margaret Thomas 
mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Michael:

on Amazon.com, I found a case for the Anker GAN Prime733  that you
mentioned,  but nothing for the device itself.  There were Anker numbers
for power banks close to 733, but no Anker GAN Prime733.  Did I just
miss it?  Is there a new model?  I'm in the U. S.

Many thanks,
Margaret


On 11/24/2023 5:49 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
> I certainly wouldn't leave my Energrid power bank plugged in all the
> time. However, the Anker 733 is designed for that and stops charging the
> battery as soon as it's full. It doesn't even get warm. The only thing
> it won't do is act as an uninterruptable power supply. You'd have to
> push a small button to engage the battery if power failed.
>
> Michael Feir
> Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally Blind User
> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1
>  
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>
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 5:07 PM Mike B. 
> mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> __
> Hi Michael,
> I wouldn't leave your power bank plugged in 24 / 7, it could cause
> premature failure being that if it loses just a little bit of charge
> it's constantly recharging.  I normally check my power bank every so
> often and I won't charge it until it needs it, or we need to go
> somewhere and I want to make sure it's fully charged.
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Michael Feir 
> >
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >
> *Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2023 1:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms
>
> Hello Margaret. I've really come to appreciate the Anker GAN Prime
> 733 which combines a 1 MAH power bank and wall charger in one
> handy device. I leave it plugged in all of the time so I know it'll
> be full when I need it. It has folding plug 

Re: Query

[joseph hudson]

Alex, I could see if my girlfriend would like to help her learn how to use it. 
If she doesn't find any instructions. Let me know and then I will talk to my 
girl.

> On Nov 25, 2023, at 1:20 PM, Alex Stone  
> wrote:
> 
> My sighted wife is getting an Apple Pencil on Tuesday she needs help on how 
> to use it
> As she’s never had one before
> Alex
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RE: Query

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not so sure how much help you get asking a bunch of blind folks to explain how 
a sighted person should use an Apple Pencil, just my thought.
Why not Google it or check on YouTube, there are tons of reviews and videos on 
how to do all sorts of stuff which a blind person would never do anyways.

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My sighted wife is getting an Apple Pencil on Tuesday she needs help on how to 
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Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Perhaps this URL might help.

I believe here it is on Amazon's US site.


https://www.amazon.com/Anker-GaNPrime-PowerCore-Charger-Portable/dp/B09W2H224F


Take good care,

Robin


On 11/25/2023 3:17 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
It shows up here as the first entry when I search for Anker 733. I 
can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be available in the US. You 
could also look at a comapny called UGreen which produces similar 
chargers. Anker certainly isn't the only game in town.


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User

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On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 2:11 PM Margaret Thomas 
 wrote:


Hi, Michael:

on Amazon.com, I found a case for the Anker GAN Prime733 that you
mentioned,  but nothing for the device itself.  There were Anker
numbers
for power banks close to 733, but no Anker GAN Prime733. Did I just
miss it?  Is there a new model?  I'm in the U. S.

Many thanks,
Margaret


On 11/24/2023 5:49 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
> I certainly wouldn't leave my Energrid power bank plugged in all
the
> time. However, the Anker 733 is designed for that and stops
charging the
> battery as soon as it's full. It doesn't even get warm. The only
thing
> it won't do is act as an uninterruptable power supply. You'd
have to
> push a small button to engage the battery if power failed.
>
> Michael Feir
> Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally
Blind User
>

http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1


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>
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 5:07 PM Mike B.  > wrote:
>
>     __
>     Hi Michael,
>     I wouldn't leave your power bank plugged in 24 / 7, it could
cause
>     premature failure being that if it loses just a little bit
of charge
>     it's constantly recharging.  I normally check my power bank
every so
>     often and I won't charge it until it needs it, or we need to go
>     somewhere and I want to make sure it's fully charged.
>
>     Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>     - Original Message -
>     *From:* Michael Feir 
>     *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>     *Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2023 1:39 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms
>
>     Hello Margaret. I've really come to appreciate the Anker GAN
Prime
>     733 which combines a 1 MAH power bank and wall charger
in one
>     handy device. I leave it plugged in all of the time so I
know it'll
>     be full when I need it. It has folding plug prongs which let you
>     plug it directly into the wall socket or power bar. It has
two USB C
>     ports and a USB A port. You'd also need a Lightning to USBC
cable
>     which Anker makes.
>     I also have a 2 MAH battery from Energrid. It gives
audio beep
>     feedback and vibrates to let you know when something's
connected or
>     when it's charging. Between those two batteries, I know I'm
covered
>     for a good eight or nine full iPhone charges. That'll see me
through
>     around three or four days. More if I'm conservative.
>     If you're worried about longer spans of time, there are much
bigger
>     power banks. The two batteries I have are very portable and both
>     will easily fit in a shoulderbag. Besides the USBC to Lightning
>     cable, I would also suggest you get a spare USB C to USB C
cable.
>     That may be useful for other accessories like USB headsets,
>     emergency radios or Bluetooth keyboards. You can always
charge other
>     power banks while you have electricity using the ports in
the 733
>     charger. Hope that helps a bit. Amazon has a slight discount
here in
>     Canada on a number of Anker products. Doubtless, this is
true in the
>     US also. There are a very wide range of other bands and you'll
>     hopefully hear from people more experienced with those as well.
>     Michael Feir
>     Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally
>     Blind User
>

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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version 
downloaded from Apple or the one from the Microsoft Store?

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Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize dialogue appears 
repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each song over and over again. 
Why?

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Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Michael Feir]

It shows up here as the first entry when I search for Anker 733. I can't
think of any reason why it wouldn't be available in the US. You could also
look at a comapny called UGreen which produces similar chargers. Anker
certainly isn't the only game in town.

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On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 2:11 PM Margaret Thomas 
wrote:

> Hi, Michael:
>
> on Amazon.com, I found a case for the Anker GAN Prime733  that you
> mentioned,  but nothing for the device itself.  There were Anker numbers
> for power banks close to 733, but no Anker GAN Prime733.  Did I just
> miss it?  Is there a new model?  I'm in the U. S.
>
> Many thanks,
> Margaret
>
>
> On 11/24/2023 5:49 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
> > I certainly wouldn't leave my Energrid power bank plugged in all the
> > time. However, the Anker 733 is designed for that and stops charging the
> > battery as soon as it's full. It doesn't even get warm. The only thing
> > it won't do is act as an uninterruptable power supply. You'd have to
> > push a small button to engage the battery if power failed.
> >
> > Michael Feir
> > Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally Blind
> User
> >
> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1
> <
> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1
> >
> > Mastodon: @mfeir@mstdn.social
> > Twitter: mfeir
> > Skype: michael-feir
> > Check out my blog at:
> > http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca 
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 5:07 PM Mike B.  > > wrote:
> >
> > __
> > Hi Michael,
> > I wouldn't leave your power bank plugged in 24 / 7, it could cause
> > premature failure being that if it loses just a little bit of charge
> > it's constantly recharging.  I normally check my power bank every so
> > often and I won't charge it until it needs it, or we need to go
> > somewhere and I want to make sure it's fully charged.
> >
> > Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> > - Original Message -
> > *From:* Michael Feir 
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > *Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2023 1:39 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms
> >
> > Hello Margaret. I've really come to appreciate the Anker GAN Prime
> > 733 which combines a 1 MAH power bank and wall charger in one
> > handy device. I leave it plugged in all of the time so I know it'll
> > be full when I need it. It has folding plug prongs which let you
> > plug it directly into the wall socket or power bar. It has two USB C
> > ports and a USB A port. You'd also need a Lightning to USBC cable
> > which Anker makes.
> > I also have a 2 MAH battery from Energrid. It gives audio beep
> > feedback and vibrates to let you know when something's connected or
> > when it's charging. Between those two batteries, I know I'm covered
> > for a good eight or nine full iPhone charges. That'll see me through
> > around three or four days. More if I'm conservative.
> > If you're worried about longer spans of time, there are much bigger
> > power banks. The two batteries I have are very portable and both
> > will easily fit in a shoulderbag. Besides the USBC to Lightning
> > cable, I would also suggest you get a spare USB C to USB C cable.
> > That may be useful for other accessories like USB headsets,
> > emergency radios or Bluetooth keyboards. You can always charge other
> > power banks while you have electricity using the ports in the 733
> > charger. Hope that helps a bit. Amazon has a slight discount here in
> > Canada on a number of Anker products. Doubtless, this is true in the
> > US also. There are a very wide range of other bands and you'll
> > hopefully hear from people more experienced with those as well.
> > Michael Feir
> > Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally
> > Blind User
> >
> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1
> <
> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1
> >
> > Mastodon: @mfeir@mstdn.social
> > Twitter: mfeir
> > Skype: michael-feir
> > Check out my blog at:
> > http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca <
> http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 3:25 PM Margaret Thomas
> > mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, All:
> >
> > Could someone recommend a power bank or something 

Re: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Try a different version of iTunes.  Grab the one from Ninite.  You
should only have to authorize i"Tunes once and you should be good to
go.

On 11/25/23, llump...@austin.rr.com  wrote:
> My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize dialogue
> appears repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each song over and
> over again. Why?
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Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[llumpkin]

My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize dialogue
appears repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each song over and
over again. Why?

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Query

[Alex Stone]

My sighted wife is getting an Apple Pencil on Tuesday she needs help on how to 
use it
As she’s never had one before
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Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, Michael:

on Amazon.com, I found a case for the Anker GAN Prime733  that you 
mentioned,  but nothing for the device itself.  There were Anker numbers 
for power banks close to 733, but no Anker GAN Prime733.  Did I just 
miss it?  Is there a new model?  I'm in the U. S.


Many thanks,
Margaret


On 11/24/2023 5:49 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
I certainly wouldn't leave my Energrid power bank plugged in all the 
time. However, the Anker 733 is designed for that and stops charging the 
battery as soon as it's full. It doesn't even get warm. The only thing 
it won't do is act as an uninterruptable power supply. You'd have to 
push a small button to engage the battery if power failed.


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On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 5:07 PM Mike B. > wrote:


__
Hi Michael,
I wouldn't leave your power bank plugged in 24 / 7, it could cause
premature failure being that if it loses just a little bit of charge
it's constantly recharging.  I normally check my power bank every so
often and I won't charge it until it needs it, or we need to go
somewhere and I want to make sure it's fully charged.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2023 1:39 PM
*Subject:* Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

Hello Margaret. I've really come to appreciate the Anker GAN Prime
733 which combines a 1 MAH power bank and wall charger in one
handy device. I leave it plugged in all of the time so I know it'll
be full when I need it. It has folding plug prongs which let you
plug it directly into the wall socket or power bar. It has two USB C
ports and a USB A port. You'd also need a Lightning to USBC cable
which Anker makes.
I also have a 2 MAH battery from Energrid. It gives audio beep
feedback and vibrates to let you know when something's connected or
when it's charging. Between those two batteries, I know I'm covered
for a good eight or nine full iPhone charges. That'll see me through
around three or four days. More if I'm conservative.
If you're worried about longer spans of time, there are much bigger
power banks. The two batteries I have are very portable and both
will easily fit in a shoulderbag. Besides the USBC to Lightning
cable, I would also suggest you get a spare USB C to USB C cable.
That may be useful for other accessories like USB headsets,
emergency radios or Bluetooth keyboards. You can always charge other
power banks while you have electricity using the ports in the 733
charger. Hope that helps a bit. Amazon has a slight discount here in
Canada on a number of Anker products. Doubtless, this is true in the
US also. There are a very wide range of other bands and you'll
hopefully hear from people more experienced with those as well.
Michael Feir
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Blind User

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On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 3:25 PM Margaret Thomas
mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, All:

Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use
with my
iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am
not a
techie and sighted assistance is normally not available. So, Be
My Eyes
etc. would have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently
heard about some models from Energrid that are supposed to be
portable
and accessible sold by Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have
never
dealt with.

I've heard about Anker products recommended many times on lists
and I
have an Amazon gift certificate.  The iPhone is my only Apple
product,
but if there is some way I could also connect either my Victor
Reader
Stream 2 or VRS 3, that would be great.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Margaret

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music won't play in my itunes playlists and I know them to be present

[llumpkin]

I'm having the following issue. Songs won't play in many of my playlists and
I have to start the shuffle process again. When I go to the playlist
manually within itunes, The affected songs error as not found but when I
click them again, they play. I can then play them normally but I have to do
this one by one in a playlist with hundreds of tracks. Is there any way to
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RE: backdating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, this is certainly a bit of an issue for me as well although it is not as 
bad as in the beginning and it’s almost gone in iOS 17.2 which as I said should 
be out maybe not next week, but the week after that.
Anyways, downgrading is not possible any more so you’ll have to put up with it 
until it gets fixed, hopefully you wrote to Apple Accessibility and request in 
strong but nice words that this really needs to be fixed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: backdating

I am currently using 17.1 ad since upgrading the focus keeps jumping, so when I 
go to delete a message, I find myself on a different message. It is often 
unresponsive to my taps, some apps being more prone to this than others, like 
Duo Lingo.
 My friend has upgraded and has none of these issues, which is strange, but I 
am currently finding it very frustrating.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: backdating

The time to go back to iOS 16 has long passed, this is only possible for a 
short while after a major new version of iOS comes out, but Apple stops signing 
the older versions usually after a few weeks. Having said this, which iPhone do 
you have and what exactly are you not happy about with iOS 17? iOS 17.2 is 
probably being released in the next couple of weeks and it takes care of a few 
more issues and with the exception with the double tap sometimes registering as 
a single tap, I have very few other problems at this stage.

Here is an article from Mac Rumors regarding the downgrading:

Downgrading an iPhone From iOS 17 to iOS 16 is No Longer Possible
Wednesday October 4, 2023 9:17 pm PDT by
Joe Rossignol
Following the release of iOS 17.0.3 earlier today, Apple has stopped signing 
iOS 16.6.1,
iOS 17, and iOS 17.0.1, preventing iPhone users from downgrading to any of 
those software versions. Apple continues to sign iOS 17.0.2 for now.
Notably, this means that it is no longer possible to downgrade an iPhone from 
iOS 17 to iOS 16. It is not possible to downgrade to iOS 16.7.
Apple routinely stops signing older iOS releases over time in order to prevent 
users from downgrading to previous software versions.
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RE: backdating

[CJ & AA MAY]

I am currently using 17.1 ad since upgrading the focus keeps jumping, so when I 
go to delete a message, I find myself on a different message. It is often 
unresponsive to my taps, some apps being more prone to this than others, like 
Duo Lingo. 

 My friend has upgraded and has none of these issues, which is strange, but I 
am currently finding it very frustrating.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: backdating

 

The time to go back to iOS 16 has long passed, this is only possible for a 
short while after a major new version of iOS comes out, but Apple stops signing 
the older versions usually after a few weeks. Having said this, which iPhone do 
you have and what exactly are you not happy about with iOS 17? iOS 17.2 is 
probably being released in the next couple of weeks and it takes care of a few 
more issues and with the exception with the double tap sometimes registering as 
a single tap, I have very few other problems at this stage.

 

Here is an article from Mac Rumors regarding the downgrading:

 

Downgrading an iPhone From iOS 17 to iOS 16 is No Longer Possible

Wednesday October 4, 2023 9:17 pm PDT by 

Joe Rossignol

Following the release of iOS 17.0.3 earlier today, Apple has stopped signing 
iOS 16.6.1,

iOS 17, and iOS 17.0.1, preventing iPhone users from downgrading to any of 
those software versions. Apple continues to sign iOS 17.0.2 for now.

Notably, this means that it is no longer possible to downgrade an iPhone from 
iOS 17 to iOS 16. It is not possible to downgrade to iOS 16.7.

Apple routinely stops signing older iOS releases over time in order to prevent 
users from downgrading to previous software versions.

iOS 17.1 is expected to be released later this month.

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RE: About some apps not having some sort of "Never-locking" option?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Correct, apps can overwrite the automatic locking so if this is something you 
want in Overcast I'd suggest it to the developer. In the Paprika recipe app 
this is something you can either turn on or off in the Settings area of Paprika 
and therefore it should be possible to be available in Overdrive.

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Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 8:17 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: About some apps not having some sort of "Never-locking" option?

As a bit of background, I've got my IPHone set up to lock itself after 5 
minutes (I wish it had every ten like my 9th Generation IPad does)… thus I'd 
like for apps like "Overcast" among others, to respect this; I could be 
engrossed in a podcast within the "Overcast" app, or reading something within 
the "BookPlayer" app, and next thing I know, the IPHone locks by itself! I've 
looked into "Overcast" settings, but can't find anything regarding 
"never-locking" or similar. So is there no way, if the app lacks this setting, 
to make the IPHone never lock except by changing this within the IPHone 
Settings itself to "never lock"? Which I wouldn't have to one to do because 
most of the time, I'd like for the IPHone to lock itself.

Gera
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RE: backdating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The time to go back to iOS 16 has long passed, this is only possible for a 
short while after a major new version of iOS comes out, but Apple stops signing 
the older versions usually after a few weeks. Having said this, which iPhone do 
you have and what exactly are you not happy about with iOS 17? iOS 17.2 is 
probably being released in the next couple of weeks and it takes care of a few 
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a single tap, I have very few other problems at this stage.

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Downgrading an iPhone From iOS 17 to iOS 16 is No Longer Possible
Wednesday October 4, 2023 9:17 pm PDT by
Joe Rossignol
Following the release of iOS 17.0.3 earlier today, Apple has stopped signing 
iOS 16.6.1,
iOS 17, and iOS 17.0.1, preventing iPhone users from downgrading to any of 
those software versions. Apple continues to sign iOS 17.0.2 for now.
Notably, this means that it is no longer possible to downgrade an iPhone from 
iOS 17 to iOS 16. It is not possible to downgrade to iOS 16.7.
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RE: About some apps not having some sort of "Never-locking" option?

[Richard Turner]

There is no way other than tapping or flicking on the screen within every 5 
minutes to keep it unlocked.
Or, like you say, setting the lock to Never while using that app.
Some apps, however, if you manually lock the phone when you start playing a 
show will keep playing.
I think Overcast does, but it has been a while.
If streaming a TV show or movie, check to see if there is a picture-in-picture 
option, if so, activate that with a double tap, wait a few seconds and lock the 
phone and it will keep playing.
That is how I manage it with things I am playing through the Xfinity stream app.




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Corripio
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 8:17 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: About some apps not having some sort of "Never-locking" option?

As a bit of background, I've got my IPHone set up to lock itself after 5 
minutes (I wish it had every ten like my 9th Generation IPad does)… thus I'd 
like for apps like "Overcast" among others, to respect this; I could be 
engrossed in a podcast within the "Overcast" app, or reading something within 
the "BookPlayer" app, and next thing I know, the IPHone locks by itself! I've 
looked into "Overcast" settings, but can't find anything regarding 
"never-locking" or similar. So is there no way, if the app lacks this setting, 
to make the IPHone never lock except by changing this within the IPHone 
Settings itself to "never lock"? Which I wouldn't have to one to do because 
most of the time, I'd like for the IPHone to lock itself.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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About some apps not having some sort of "Never-locking" option?

[Gerardo Corripio]

As a bit of background, I've got my IPHone set up to lock itself after 5 
minutes (I wish it had every ten like my 9th Generation IPad does)… thus I'd 
like for apps like "Overcast" among others, to respect this; I could be 
engrossed in a podcast within the "Overcast" app, or reading something within 
the "BookPlayer" app, and next thing I know, the IPHone locks by itself! I've 
looked into "Overcast" settings, but can't find anything regarding 
"never-locking" or similar. So is there no way, if the app lacks this setting, 
to make the IPHone never lock except by changing this within the IPHone 
Settings itself to "never lock"? Which I wouldn't have to one to do because 
most of the time, I'd like for the IPHone to lock itself.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, Mike:

Thank you, but I updated several days ago and, back then, I remembered 
about restarting the phone when it acts weird and it didn't help.


Margaret


On 11/23/2023 6:25 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Margaret,
If you've just updated to iOS17... restarting the phone helped both my 
wife's and my and my phone after updating with the double tap functionality.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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*From:* Alan Lemly 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2023 2:43 PM
*Subject:* Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

Hi Margaret,

I seem to recall folks posting after the release of iOS 17 that the 
double tap time-out setting was changed to lower the speed needed to 
execute a double tap. The effect of this would require you to double tap 
faster in order for it to register.


Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and double tap time-out witch 
will be near the bottom of the screen. Mine was currently set to .25 
seconds and I executed the increment button to make it .3 seconds which 
I like better since I don't have to double tap quite as fast. Play 
around with that setting to see if it helps you.


Good luck.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone

 > On Nov 23, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Margaret Thomas > wrote:

 >
 > Hi, Alan:
 >
 > Thank you.  I got Hey Siri back.  I could swear that the 3 choices 
weren't there when I looked earlier and I was looking for more than 1 
item and I was double tapping on Hey Siri.  The double tapping problem 
is still here and it might have been the problem earlier.  It took about 
a half dozen tries for the phone to recognize my double taps.  I got the 
phone 2 years ago yesterday and, as far as I know, I'm double tapping 
the same as I always have and the phone has just gone nuts.

 >
 > Thanks ,
 >
 > Margaret
 >
 >
 >> On 11/23/2023 3:03 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
 >> Hi Margaret,
 >> Go to Settings, Siri & Search, Listen for “Hey Siri”. The setting 
choices here are 1. “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or 2. “Hey Siri” or 3. Off
 >> I have mine set to option 2, Hey Siri. When I posted the earlier 
instructions you are referencing, I believe I was still running iOS 16.X 
so I expect I made a pig's breakfast of them.
 >> I'm not sure if you will be successful changing any of your settings 
if you are having difficulty with the tapping gesture. You can certainly 
try changing the hey Siri setting to see if you can get what you want.

 >> Good luck and happy Thanksgiving.
 >> Alan Lemly .
 >> Sent from my iPhone
  On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Margaret Thomas 
mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

 >>>
 >>> Good Afternoon:
 >>>
 >>> I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to 
work my way through the changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm 
having with the update.  I had Hey Siri on and wanted it and not Siri, 
but am having a problem with Alan's instructions.What do I do after 
"Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by 
itself.  Right now, when I do not press the hone button, and invoke Siri 
by voice, Siri responds with Hey Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may 
have something to do with the new follow-up feature I think I heard about.

 >>>
 >>> The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't 
want. I may have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in 
the new info might make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with 
double tapping since the update and I was hoping to solve the double 
tapping thing first.  Do I have to solve these before I can fix Hey Siri 
vs. Siri?

 >>>
 >>> Many thanks,
 >>>
 >>> Margaret
 >>>
 >>>
  On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
  James,
  For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we 
can go to Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri 
instead of Siri and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier 
versions of iOS.

  Alan Lemly
  Sent from my iPhone
 >> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley 
mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 >
 > I love Hey Ciri. Not one single time in almost one year has any 
thing accidently triggered Ciri.

 >
 > All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a 
day.  I always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has 
never noticed.  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some 
podcast because she thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.

 >
 > If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to 
any version of IOS 17.

 >
 > Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with 
one of the worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.

 >
 > Regards,
 >
 > James B
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, Alan:

Thank you.  Mine was set the same as yours and someone on another list 
with the same phone as mine made the same amount of change you did and 
got some improved results.  So, I did the same and incremented from .25 
to .3 and, so far, things are better.  I'll play with it more if need be.


Margaret


On 11/23/2023 5:43 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi Margaret,

I seem to recall folks posting after the release of iOS 17 that the double tap 
time-out setting was changed to lower the speed needed to execute a double tap. 
The effect of this would require you to double tap faster in order for it to 
register.

Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and double tap time-out witch will be 
near the bottom of the screen. Mine was currently set to .25 seconds and I 
executed the increment button to make it .3 seconds which I like better since I 
don't have to double tap quite as fast. Play around with that setting to see if 
it helps you.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 23, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:

Hi, Alan:

Thank you.  I got Hey Siri back.  I could swear that the 3 choices weren't 
there when I looked earlier and I was looking for more than 1 item and I was 
double tapping on Hey Siri.  The double tapping problem is still here and it 
might have been the problem earlier.  It took about a half dozen tries for the 
phone to recognize my double taps.  I got the phone 2 years ago yesterday and, 
as far as I know, I'm double tapping the same as I always have and the phone 
has just gone nuts.

Thanks ,

Margaret



On 11/23/2023 3:03 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
Hi Margaret,
Go to Settings, Siri & Search, Listen for “Hey Siri”. The setting choices here 
are 1. “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or 2. “Hey Siri” or 3. Off
I have mine set to option 2, Hey Siri. When I posted the earlier instructions 
you are referencing, I believe I was still running iOS 16.X so I expect I made 
a pig's breakfast of them.
I'm not sure if you will be successful changing any of your settings if you are 
having difficulty with the tapping gesture. You can certainly try changing the 
hey Siri setting to see if you can get what you want.
Good luck and happy Thanksgiving.
Alan Lemly .
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:


Good Afternoon:

I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my way through the 
changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having with the update.  I had Hey Siri 
on and wanted it and not Siri, but am having a problem with Alan's instructions.What do I 
do after "Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by 
itself.  Right now, when I do not press the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri 
responds with Hey Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may have something to do with the new 
follow-up feature I think I heard about.

The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. I may 
have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the new info might 
make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with double tapping since the 
update and I was hoping to solve the double tapping thing first.  Do I have to 
solve these before I can fix Hey Siri vs. Siri?

Many thanks,

Margaret



On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
James,
For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri 
and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.
Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  wrote:


I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
accidently triggered Ciri.

All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I always 
have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed.  Alexa 
sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she thought she 
heard the wake word followed by a request.

If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version 
of IOS 17.

Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.

Regards,

James B


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for follow 
up