Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

[Janet Bell]

Hi Jen I have just checked in the app store and couldn’t find any mention of 
whether you could put the app on your watch or not.  which is a shame as it is 
a sat nav app i.e. Lazzus.  anyway thanks for trying to help me it is very much 
appreciated.  Janet

From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

Hi Janet, 

Find the app on your iPhone and uninstall it and reinstall it. You can look up 
on the App Store to see if it has a watch app to go with the app on your phone. 
Without knowing which you are speaking of, I can’t tell you too much more.

Jen


Jenn and Kumi


  On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:


   
  Hi Jen no I am not sure and I don’t know how to find out.

  From: Jennie Facer 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:52 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

  Hi Janet, 

  Maybe you should reinstall the app on your phone? Not sure why it would show 
on your phone but now on your watch. Are you sure that this particular app has 
a watch counterpart?

  Jenn


  Jenn and Kumi


On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:17 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:


 
Hi Jen I can find the apps that are on my watch in the watch app on my 
phone but I can’t find any other apps that are not installed on my watch.  Janet

From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

Hi Janet, 

In the Watch app on your phone, just flick down to the app in question. 
Double tap on that and then there shoudl be a button that says sync with your 
watch or Use with AppleWatch off or on. Make sure it is on. i don’t know the 
exact verbage for it though. Sorry about that.

Jenn


Jenn and Kumi


  On Aug 20, 2019, at 10:36 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:


   
  morning guys,  is there a way that I can move an app from my iPhone to my 
apple watch.  I don’t know why it didn’t sync with my watch in the first place. 
 I would still like to keep it on my pphone as well, it is just that my watch 
comes out with me more than the phone these days.  Hope someone can help,   
Janet
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Maria Reyes]

Hey Kitty how were you able to pair your Polaris with your phone? While at my 
rehab center I tried out a Polaris, but couldn't get it paired to my phone. I 
used the terminal for screen readers.

want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I will 
happily add you.
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> On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:09 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
> 
> I have the focus 14 fifth generation.  It has basic note taking capability 
> and pairs beautifully with the IPhone.  The pairing is stable and consistent. 
> I've had it for almost 3 months and only had to re-pair it with the phone 
> once and that may have been computer operator error.  I must say that I got 
> it more as a note taker, but find that I'm using it a lot more with the phone 
> than I thought I would.  The 14 cell display is not really that difficult for 
> me to get used to since I had an 18 cell display previously.  The cost is 
> around 1,200. 
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 6:45 AM
> To: viPhone 
> Subject: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices
> 
> Good Morning All,
> 
> A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, 
> iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have 
> Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:
> 
> -  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with iDevices?
> 
> - If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
> model please).
> 
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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RE: Apple Cash card?

[M. Taylor]

I am with you, on this one, Mary.

While I have not yet applied for Apple Card, neither have I setup Apple Pay 
Cash.  The primary reason is that there is no one to whom I would send money or 
from whom I expect money.  Sounds sad, doesn't it?  (smile).

Anyway, my point is that just before I apply for Apple Card, I will, in fact, 
setup the Apple Cash Card for the same reason you mentioned, said reason being 
in order to have a convenient way of transferring any cashback rewards to my 
bank account, if I so choose.  

At present, I would expect that there must be a deluge of applications in 
process at the card has just been released.  

I think I'll wait for the quote, second wave, quote, before I apply for the 
card.  See what various reviewers have to say about it and so forth.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Cash card?

Hi Kelly,
I have no interest in making a person to person transaction. I am mostly 
interested in making sure that if I get cash back from the Apple card, I have 
options on where to put it, such is in my bank account.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> If you make a person-to-person  Apple Pay Cash transaction, you will 
> pay steeply for it using a credit card, including the Apple Card.
> Instead, you will need to use a debit card for these transactions.
> With debit cards, personal payments are free.
> 
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>> On 8/21/19, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> Hey Mary,
>> 
>> To get VoiceOver to refocus in the window. Make sure you’re doing a 
>> single tap and not a double tap. You don’t want to activate anything 
>> you didn’t mean to.
>> 
>> 
>> Let me know how it goes.
>> 
>> Ed W.
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Ed. It seems rather strange that voiceover would lose focus 
>>> in this Apple app. I will try that double tap thing when I get home 
>>> and have access to my relevant information about my bank account. 
>>> How very odd that you would have to do at work around. I hope you 
>>> reported it to Apple accessibility. If I actually get it to work, 
>>> using that method that you said were you just double tap on 
>>> something doesn’t have focus I will definitely be reporting to Apple 
>>> accessibility.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 21, 2019, at 5:49 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
 
 Hey Mary,
 
 Yes I have set this up. I had no issues with the process. If you 
 follow the instructions you will have to put in your last four 
 digits of your social security number, and your banks routing 
 number. As well as the account number.
 
 I have found that some of these screens need you to tap in the 
 middle of the screen for VoiceOver to focus on the content. It 
 seems that VO doesn’t refresh when the new page/screen loads.
 
 I wish I could be of more assistance.
 
 Ed W.
 
 
> On Aug 20, 2019, at 5:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> I just applied for the Apple card and have it in my wallet now. In 
> reading about it, I was given to understand that you should get an 
> Apple Cash card which is issued by some bank called greens I think 
> it is, and this allows you to do more with Apple Cash then just pay off 
> your bill.
> And then I found an article that tells you how to set up Apple 
> Cash. I tried both approaches referenced, when going into settings 
> then Apple Pay and wallet, the other going directly into wallet 
> and clicking on Apple Cash to get the process started. In both 
> instances, I am being sent around in a circle. I hit set up, then 
> continue, I’m back to being told it’s not set up and I have to set 
> it up and I do it all again. I’m not seeing any error message. I 
> don’t have a physical card, and I didn’t think one was necessary. 
> I am thoroughly confused. Has anyone done this?
> 
> 
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Re: Apple Cash card?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Kelly,
I have no interest in making a person to person transaction. I am mostly 
interested in making sure that if I get cash back from the Apple card, I have 
options on where to put it, such is in my bank account.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> If you make a person-to-person  Apple Pay Cash transaction, you will
> pay steeply for it using a credit card, including the Apple Card.
> Instead, you will need to use a debit card for these transactions.
> With debit cards, personal payments are free.
> 
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>> On 8/21/19, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> Hey Mary,
>> 
>> To get VoiceOver to refocus in the window. Make sure you’re doing a single
>> tap and not a double tap. You don’t want to activate anything you didn’t
>> mean to.
>> 
>> 
>> Let me know how it goes.
>> 
>> Ed W.
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Ed. It seems rather strange that voiceover would lose focus in
>>> this Apple app. I will try that double tap thing when I get home and have
>>> access to my relevant information about my bank account. How very odd that
>>> you would have to do at work around. I hope you reported it to Apple
>>> accessibility. If I actually get it to work, using that method that you
>>> said were you just double tap on something doesn’t have focus I will
>>> definitely be reporting to Apple accessibility.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 21, 2019, at 5:49 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
 
 Hey Mary,
 
 Yes I have set this up. I had no issues with the process. If you follow
 the instructions you will have to put in your last four digits of your
 social security number, and your banks routing number. As well as the
 account number.
 
 I have found that some of these screens need you to tap in the middle of
 the screen for VoiceOver to focus on the content. It seems that VO
 doesn’t refresh when the new page/screen loads.
 
 I wish I could be of more assistance.
 
 Ed W.
 
 
> On Aug 20, 2019, at 5:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> I just applied for the Apple card and have it in my wallet now. In
> reading about it, I was given to understand that you should get an Apple
> Cash card which is issued by some bank called greens I think it is, and
> this allows you to do more with Apple Cash then just pay off your bill.
> And then I found an article that tells you how to set up Apple Cash. I
> tried both approaches referenced, when going into settings then Apple
> Pay and wallet, the other going directly into wallet and clicking on
> Apple Cash to get the process started. In both instances, I am being
> sent around in a circle. I hit set up, then continue, I’m back to being
> told it’s not set up and I have to set it up and I do it all again. I’m
> not seeing any error message. I don’t have a physical card, and I didn’t
> think one was necessary. I am thoroughly confused. Has anyone done
> this?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

I have the focus 14 fifth generation.  It has basic note taking capability and 
pairs beautifully with the IPhone.  The pairing is stable and consistent. I've 
had it for almost 3 months and only had to re-pair it with the phone once and 
that may have been computer operator error.  I must say that I got it more as a 
note taker, but find that I'm using it a lot more with the phone than I thought 
I would.  The 14 cell display is not really that difficult for me to get used 
to since I had an 18 cell display previously.  The cost is around 1,200. 
God bless!
Paula and Garçon
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From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 6:45 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

 Good Morning All,

A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, iPad 
or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have Braille 
I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:

-  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with iDevices?

- If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
model please).



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Dictation Issues

[Joe Orozco]

Hi, is anyone else experiencing issues with dictation on the latest
build of iOS? Seemingly with increasing regularity, dictation will
just stop working. It’ll bing the way it’s supposed to but then just
flip off and put me back in an edit field. I mostly notice it on the
Messages app. I close the app, turn off Voiceover off and on. The only
thing that seems to work is rebooting the phone, but as I’d grown used
to never having to reboot the phone, it’s rather annoying. Can anyone
else speak to the issue, and if so, have you found any solutions to
fixing it? It’s not my cell service, because it used to work
consistently fine.

Thanks for any help,

Joe

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Re: Apple Cash card?

[Kelly Pierce]

Mary,

If you make a person-to-person  Apple Pay Cash transaction, you will
pay steeply for it using a credit card, including the Apple Card.
Instead, you will need to use a debit card for these transactions.
With debit cards, personal payments are free.

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On 8/21/19, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> Hey Mary,
>
> To get VoiceOver to refocus in the window. Make sure you’re doing a single
> tap and not a double tap. You don’t want to activate anything you didn’t
> mean to.
>
>
> Let me know how it goes.
>
> Ed W.
>
>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Ed. It seems rather strange that voiceover would lose focus in
>> this Apple app. I will try that double tap thing when I get home and have
>> access to my relevant information about my bank account. How very odd that
>> you would have to do at work around. I hope you reported it to Apple
>> accessibility. If I actually get it to work, using that method that you
>> said were you just double tap on something doesn’t have focus I will
>> definitely be reporting to Apple accessibility.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 5:49 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Mary,
>>>
>>> Yes I have set this up. I had no issues with the process. If you follow
>>> the instructions you will have to put in your last four digits of your
>>> social security number, and your banks routing number. As well as the
>>> account number.
>>>
>>> I have found that some of these screens need you to tap in the middle of
>>> the screen for VoiceOver to focus on the content. It seems that VO
>>> doesn’t refresh when the new page/screen loads.
>>>
>>> I wish I could be of more assistance.
>>>
>>> Ed W.
>>>
>>>
 On Aug 20, 2019, at 5:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I just applied for the Apple card and have it in my wallet now. In
 reading about it, I was given to understand that you should get an Apple
 Cash card which is issued by some bank called greens I think it is, and
 this allows you to do more with Apple Cash then just pay off your bill.
 And then I found an article that tells you how to set up Apple Cash. I
 tried both approaches referenced, when going into settings then Apple
 Pay and wallet, the other going directly into wallet and clicking on
 Apple Cash to get the process started. In both instances, I am being
 sent around in a circle. I hit set up, then continue, I’m back to being
 told it’s not set up and I have to set it up and I do it all again. I’m
 not seeing any error message. I don’t have a physical card, and I didn’t
 think one was necessary. I am thoroughly confused. Has anyone done
 this?


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Re: Apple Pay Help Please.

[Kelly Pierce]

I anticipated this problem with setting up multiple cards. I decided
to only use a debit card from one financial institution with Apple Pay
to prevent configuration problems. Also, if I accidentally used a
credit card to make a person to person transaction, I could be charged
a fee compared to being free with a debit card.

I would suggest removing one payment method and seeing what happens.
If that does not work, then remove all cards and load just one card
and see if it then is operational. If that does not work, consider
restoring after all cards have been removed.

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On 8/21/19, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> I have my Visa credit card linked to Apple Pay, and it has been like that
> for several months, but I decided I wanted to add my debit card as well, and
> that I did do, and it showed up in Apple Pay for about a week until I tried
> to use it in the store, and I couldn't find the debit card in Apple Pay
> though.  I checked the Payment and Shipping on my phone, it shows my credit
> card as the default, but doesn't show my debit card like it used to, so I
> tap on add payment method to see if I need to add it again, but even though,
> it shows up only in the wallet, it shows as unchecked, so I tap on it to
> check it, and I press the done button, and once again, I look at the debit
> card, and sure enough it is once again showing up as unchecked.  I also had
> Apple Cash set up, and now it is also showing up as unchecked, and if I tap
> on it, and press the done button, and check it again, it is showing up as
> unchecked.  I would like my debit and my credit card to show up in the Apple
> Pay screen so when I make a purchase, I can choose witch card I want to use.
>  My face id also doesn't work when I use Apple Pay.  Although, I do have
> face id turned on for Apple Pay.  Any Thoughts?
> I am using Xr iPhone with the latest iOS.
> Thank you all!
> Janet
> Peace Be With You.
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[kitty hevener]

Susie, should you ever decide to try connecting the apex, the number you 
probably need is .  I would like to talk with you a little more about 
your experience using the brailliant.  Wud u mind emailing me offline at

khevener@earthlink and put brailliant in subject line?  Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Susie Stageberg

Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 12:46 PM
To: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

Bill,

I have experience with three Braille devices and my iPhone. I bought a 
BrailleMe from National Braille Press, but could never get it to pair with 
the phone. It's a cute little device and the price, well, ya gotta love it 
($500 or so). Except that mine refused to play with the phone. So it went 
back to Boston.
 I now use a Brailliant BI14 from Humanware. Cost was about $1000. 14 cells 
are fewer than you'd think, which means you do a lot of panning. For 
instance, when reading e-mail, the word "unread" in front of a message takes 
up half the Braille real estate on the display. However, this little device 
works beautifully with the phone and has what they call a joy stick, with 
which you can swipe between items and double-tap to select something. I like 
mine a lot. You do have to have the Brailliant turned on before you boot up 
the phone, and sometimes and connection goes in and out.
 I also have a Focus Blue 40 from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they call 
themselves these days. I bought this display myself (just under $3000) to 
use with my computer when my old Alva Satellite went off to wherever old 
devices go. The Focus is a lovely, trim little display which works great 
with JAWS, but also pairs with the phone without a hiccup. No joy stick 
here, but 40 cells of beautiful Braille.
 I also have a BrailleNote Apex, which is supposed to work with the phone, 
but I could never get it to pair. You have to enter a PIN, and my lack of 
prowess entering numbers on the phone itself meant it always timed out 
before I could get it entered. Then you have to restart everything and try 
again. Most annoying.
  So these are the ones I know about firsthand. Having Braille on the phone 
makes a lot of tasks quicker and easier. It ain't always cheap, but to me 
Braille is worth it.


Susie
On Aug 21, 2019 5:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Good Morning All,

A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, 
iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must 
have Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:


-  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with 
iDevices?


- If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
model please).




- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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Apple Pay Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone, 
I have my Visa credit card linked to Apple Pay, and it has been like that for 
several months, but I decided I wanted to add my debit card as well, and that I 
did do, and it showed up in Apple Pay for about a week until I tried to use it 
in the store, and I couldn't find the debit card in Apple Pay though.  I 
checked the Payment and Shipping on my phone, it shows my credit card as the 
default, but doesn't show my debit card like it used to, so I tap on add 
payment method to see if I need to add it again, but even though, it shows up 
only in the wallet, it shows as unchecked, so I tap on it to check it, and I 
press the done button, and once again, I look at the debit card, and sure 
enough it is once again showing up as unchecked.  I also had Apple Cash set up, 
and now it is also showing up as unchecked, and if I tap on it, and press the 
done button, and check it again, it is showing up as unchecked.  I would like 
my debit and my credit card to show up in the Apple Pay screen so when I make a 
purchase, I can choose witch card I want to use.  My face id also doesn't work 
when I use Apple Pay.  Although, I do have face id turned on for Apple Pay.  
Any Thoughts?  
I am using Xr iPhone with the latest iOS.  
Thank you all!  
Janet 
Peace Be With You. 

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Re: Help with the setting

[Johnna Simmons]

Yes, this is exactly how I wanted it set up. When I am somewhere I don’t like 
hearing that flicking Sam the voiceover makes. Thank you.

Johnna Simmons

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> I believe you want to turn offf the click that VoiceOver makes rather than 
> the key click sound when you type a key. Currently, this sound cannot be 
> disabled individually. You could disable the entire set of VoiceOver sound 
> cues. If this is what you want to do: 
> 1. Go to settings, general, accessibility, voiceover.
> 2. Once you're in VoiceOver settings, , flick right until you reach "audio" 
> and double-tap this to enter the audio settings.
> 3. Flick right until you come to "mute sound effects" and double-tap this so 
> it's set to on. At that point the sound cues which are part of VoiceOver will 
> be muted.
> 
> An easier way is to add "sounds" to your VoiceOver rotor. Once that's done, 
> you simply turn the rotor to the "sounds" option and flick up or down to 
> toggle the sounds on or offf. Again, go to VoiceOver settings and then find 
> the "rotor options". There are a great many things you can do very quickly 
> once you've mastered the rotor. Hope this helps.  
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:42 PM Johnna Simmons  wrote:
>> Good afternoon everyone, I am still helping my friend get his iPhone set up. 
>> He wants the clicking sound to go away when he flicks back-and-forth on his 
>> phone. I’m not sure how to make that happen. Any help would be appreciated. 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Johnna Simmons
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Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Janet,

Find the app on your iPhone and uninstall it and reinstall it. You can look up 
on the App Store to see if it has a watch app to go with the app on your phone. 
Without knowing which you are speaking of, I can’t tell you too much more.

Jen

Jenn and Kumi

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jen no I am not sure and I don’t know how to find out.
>  
> From: Jennie Facer
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch
>  
> Hi Janet,
>  
> Maybe you should reinstall the app on your phone? Not sure why it would show 
> on your phone but now on your watch. Are you sure that this particular app 
> has a watch counterpart?
>  
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:17 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Jen I can find the apps that are on my watch in the watch app on my phone 
>> but I can’t find any other apps that are not installed on my watch.  Janet
>>  
>> From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch
>>  
>> Hi Janet,
>>  
>> In the Watch app on your phone, just flick down to the app in question. 
>> Double tap on that and then there shoudl be a button that says sync with 
>> your watch or Use with AppleWatch off or on. Make sure it is on. i don’t 
>> know the exact verbage for it though. Sorry about that.
>>  
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>> On Aug 20, 2019, at 10:36 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> morning guys,  is there a way that I can move an app from my iPhone to my 
>>> apple watch.  I don’t know why it didn’t sync with my watch in the first 
>>> place.  I would still like to keep it on my pphone as well, it is just that 
>>> my watch comes out with me more than the phone these days.  Hope someone 
>>> can help,   Janet
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Re: Question: How to Answer the Door Using the Ring app for the Ring Video Doorbell 2

[Holly]

Arleen:

Not as yet.  We were discussing this the other day and many of us were going to 
contact the ‘ring’ doorbell tech support to see if this could be added as a 
feature.

The whole app, in general, is not very accessible, so that is another topic to 
bring up with ‘ring’.

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Re: Question: How to Answer the Door Using the Ring app for the Ring Video Doorbell 2

[arlene]

Can a shortcut be used for answering the door with siri?
  - Original Message - 
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  Subject: Re: Question: How to Answer the Door Using the Ring app for the Ring 
Video Doorbell 2


  Hi David:

  When you get the notification that there is someone at the door, you should 
be able to open the ring app by double tapping on the notification.  It takes a 
few seconds for the app to open, then the buttons you need to talk to the 
person at the door are along the top left edge of the phone.

  You just have to practice running your finger down the left edge to the ‘end 
call’ and ‘accept call’ buttons.  The ‘end call’ button is above the ‘accept 
call’ button.  Voice over will announce them when you find them, but you can 
not find them by swiping.

  As you say, the app is not very accessible, but with practice you can manage 
it.

  I found that having an echo spot or echo show is faster than the app.  When 
you set the echo up to ‘talk to the front door, or whatever you name it, it 
will open two way communication to the person at the door.  Then you can talk 
to the person through the echo device.

  Good luck!

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Re: Help with the setting

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I believe you want to turn offf the click that VoiceOver makes rather than
the key click sound when you type a key. Currently, this sound cannot be
disabled individually. You could disable the entire set of VoiceOver sound
cues. If this is what you want to do:
1. Go to settings, general, accessibility, voiceover.
2. Once you're in VoiceOver settings, , flick right until you reach "audio"
and double-tap this to enter the audio settings.
3. Flick right until you come to "mute sound effects" and double-tap this
so it's set to on. At that point the sound cues which are part of VoiceOver
will be muted.

An easier way is to add "sounds" to your VoiceOver rotor. Once that's done,
you simply turn the rotor to the "sounds" option and flick up or down to
toggle the sounds on or offf. Again, go to VoiceOver settings and then find
the "rotor options". There are a great many things you can do very quickly
once you've mastered the rotor. Hope this helps.

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> Good afternoon everyone, I am still helping my friend get his iPhone set
> up. He wants the clicking sound to go away when he flicks back-and-forth on
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> appreciated. Thank you.
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Re: Apple Wireless Keyboard Question

[Richard Turner]

use Option key plus enter to insert a hard return in text messages.
Enter does just activate the send button.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Keith Bierman  wrote:


humm. I'd have expected carriage return would send. *option* (sometimes labeled 
alt) carriage return should result in a single multi-line message.  It might 
make a difference if the recipient is (or isn't) another iphone/imessage user.
Keith Bierman
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 11:35 AM Arnold Schmidt 
mailto:als5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I was talking to somebody earlier today who told me that he was typing an 
IMessage on his wireless keyboard the other day, and hit enter intending to 
start a new line. Instead of the expected behavior, it sent his message 
prematurely. Why did it do this, and how can he make sure, in the future that 
enter gives the expected result? Also, what is the key stroke to send the 
message? Thanks in advance for any information.

Arnold Schmidt


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RE: Apple Wireless Keyboard Question

[Peter Logan]

Enter sends the message ... always has ... I don't think in a message there is 
really the concept of a return moving to the next line .. 


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Wireless Keyboard Question

I was talking to somebody earlier today who told me that he was typing an 
IMessage on his wireless keyboard the other day, and hit enter intending to 
start a new line. Instead of the expected behavior, it sent his message 
prematurely. Why did it do this, and how can he make sure, in the future that 
enter gives the expected result? Also, what is the key stroke to send the 
message? Thanks in advance for any information. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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Re: Got all my favorites up on iHeartRadio

[Duane Steele]

That's very good news about iHeart Radio.  But the APP is still only marginally 
accessible, and I too have written in the APP store to tell them so.  TuneIn's 
much more accessible.  I love their sports coverage.  But TuneIn canceled 
several stations that mover to iHeart.  I suspect TuneIn's going in the 
direction of being mostly news, talk and sports, and, of course, podcasts.  
Just an observation.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> This was an accident; I’ve been able to duplicate this: I go to library, 
> double tap on saved stations, flick to where it makes the third click sound, 
> since there is no text, double tap on that place, (play lists is right 
> underneath it), and there was my whole list of favorite stations.
> 
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RE: Help with the setting

[Mich Verrier]

Go to settings, genral, sounds and swipe all the way to the right and make 
shure that clicks is off dubble tap on it and it will tern off. From Mich.

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Subject: Help with the setting

Good afternoon everyone, I am still helping my friend get his iPhone set up. He 
wants the clicking sound to go away when he flicks back-and-forth on his phone. 
I’m not sure how to make that happen. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Johnna Simmons

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Re: Apple Wireless Keyboard Question

[Keith Bierman]

humm. I'd have expected carriage return would send. *option* (sometimes
labeled *alt) *carriage return should result in a single multi-line
message.  It might make a difference if the recipient is (or isn't) another
iphone/imessage user.
Keith Bierman
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303 997 2749


On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 11:35 AM Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

> I was talking to somebody earlier today who told me that he was typing an
> IMessage on his wireless keyboard the other day, and hit enter intending to
> start a new line. Instead of the expected behavior, it sent his message
> prematurely. Why did it do this, and how can he make sure, in the future
> that enter gives the expected result? Also, what is the key stroke to send
> the message? Thanks in advance for any information.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
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Help with the setting

[Johnna Simmons]

Good afternoon everyone, I am still helping my friend get his iPhone set up. He 
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I’m not sure how to make that happen. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

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Apple Wireless Keyboard Question

[Arnold Schmidt]

I was talking to somebody earlier today who told me that he was typing an 
IMessage on his wireless keyboard the other day, and hit enter intending to 
start a new line. Instead of the expected behavior, it sent his message 
prematurely. Why did it do this, and how can he make sure, in the future that 
enter gives the expected result? Also, what is the key stroke to send the 
message? Thanks in advance for any information. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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Re: Apple Cash card?

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mary,

To get VoiceOver to refocus in the window. Make sure you’re doing a single tap 
and not a double tap. You don’t want to activate anything you didn’t mean to.


Let me know how it goes.

Ed W.

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Ed. It seems rather strange that voiceover would lose focus in this 
> Apple app. I will try that double tap thing when I get home and have access 
> to my relevant information about my bank account. How very odd that you would 
> have to do at work around. I hope you reported it to Apple accessibility. If 
> I actually get it to work, using that method that you said were you just 
> double tap on something doesn’t have focus I will definitely be reporting to 
> Apple accessibility.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 5:49 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Mary,
>> 
>> Yes I have set this up. I had no issues with the process. If you follow the 
>> instructions you will have to put in your last four digits of your social 
>> security number, and your banks routing number. As well as the account 
>> number.
>> 
>> I have found that some of these screens need you to tap in the middle of the 
>> screen for VoiceOver to focus on the content. It seems that VO doesn’t 
>> refresh when the new page/screen loads.
>> 
>> I wish I could be of more assistance.
>> 
>> Ed W.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 20, 2019, at 5:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I just applied for the Apple card and have it in my wallet now. In reading 
>>> about it, I was given to understand that you should get an Apple Cash card 
>>> which is issued by some bank called greens I think it is, and this allows 
>>> you to do more with Apple Cash then just pay off your bill. And then I 
>>> found an article that tells you how to set up Apple Cash. I tried both 
>>> approaches referenced, when going into settings then Apple Pay and wallet, 
>>> the other going directly into wallet and clicking on Apple Cash to get the 
>>> process started. In both instances, I am being sent around in a circle. I 
>>> hit set up, then continue, I’m back to being told it’s not set up and I 
>>> have to set it up and I do it all again. I’m not seeing any error message. 
>>> I don’t have a physical card, and I didn’t think one was necessary. I am 
>>> thoroughly confused. Has anyone done this?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Apple Cash card?

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Ed. It seems rather strange that voiceover would lose focus in this 
Apple app. I will try that double tap thing when I get home and have access to 
my relevant information about my bank account. How very odd that you would have 
to do at work around. I hope you reported it to Apple accessibility. If I 
actually get it to work, using that method that you said were you just double 
tap on something doesn’t have focus I will definitely be reporting to Apple 
accessibility.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 5:49 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hey Mary,
> 
> Yes I have set this up. I had no issues with the process. If you follow the 
> instructions you will have to put in your last four digits of your social 
> security number, and your banks routing number. As well as the account number.
> 
> I have found that some of these screens need you to tap in the middle of the 
> screen for VoiceOver to focus on the content. It seems that VO doesn’t 
> refresh when the new page/screen loads.
> 
> I wish I could be of more assistance.
> 
> Ed W.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2019, at 5:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I just applied for the Apple card and have it in my wallet now. In reading 
>> about it, I was given to understand that you should get an Apple Cash card 
>> which is issued by some bank called greens I think it is, and this allows 
>> you to do more with Apple Cash then just pay off your bill. And then I found 
>> an article that tells you how to set up Apple Cash. I tried both approaches 
>> referenced, when going into settings then Apple Pay and wallet, the other 
>> going directly into wallet and clicking on Apple Cash to get the process 
>> started. In both instances, I am being sent around in a circle. I hit set 
>> up, then continue, I’m back to being told it’s not set up and I have to set 
>> it up and I do it all again. I’m not seeing any error message. I don’t have 
>> a physical card, and I didn’t think one was necessary. I am thoroughly 
>> confused. Has anyone done this?
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Susie Stageberg]

Bill,

I have experience with three Braille devices and my iPhone. I bought a 
BrailleMe from National Braille Press, but could never get it to pair with the 
phone. It's a cute little device and the price, well, ya gotta love it ($500 or 
so). Except that mine refused to play with the phone. So it went back to Boston.
  I now use a Brailliant BI14 from Humanware. Cost was about $1000. 14 cells 
are fewer than you'd think, which means you do a lot of panning. For instance, 
when reading e-mail, the word "unread" in front of a message takes up half the 
Braille real estate on the display. However, this little device works 
beautifully with the phone and has what they call a joy stick, with which you 
can swipe between items and double-tap to select something. I like mine a lot. 
You do have to have the Brailliant turned on before you boot up the phone, and 
sometimes and connection goes in and out.
  I also have a Focus Blue 40 from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they call 
themselves these days. I bought this display myself (just under $3000) to use 
with my computer when my old Alva Satellite went off to wherever old devices 
go. The Focus is a lovely, trim little display which works great with JAWS, but 
also pairs with the phone without a hiccup. No joy stick here, but 40 cells of 
beautiful Braille.
  I also have a BrailleNote Apex, which is supposed to work with the phone, but 
I could never get it to pair. You have to enter a PIN, and my lack of prowess 
entering numbers on the phone itself meant it always timed out before I could 
get it entered. Then you have to restart everything and try again. Most 
annoying. 
   So these are the ones I know about firsthand. Having Braille on the phone 
makes a lot of tasks quicker and easier. It ain't always cheap, but to me 
Braille is worth it.

Susie
On Aug 21, 2019 5:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  
wrote:
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> Good Morning All, 
>
> A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, 
> iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have 
> Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions: 
>
> -  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with 
> iDevices? 
>
> - If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
> model please). 
>
>
>  
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin 
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[kitty hevener]

I currently use polaris with iphone SE.  Found pairing to be pretty easy.  
However, it seems like I have to pair it every time as the connections from 
previous pairing never work.  This could be an operator error, but it has been 
my issue.  I did see a friend using the latest generation small focus braille 
display and it seemed to work great.  Connecting to her phone via bluetooth was 
very quick.  

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

yes, the Braille Edge was a great device. Too bad they have moved on to the 
QBraille, which has the potential of being a great device but has issues when 
trying to use it with more than one device or via bluetooth with a computer. 
If the Braille Edge is still available, it is a good choice for around $2800 to 
$3000.



Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



  On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:


   Hims Inc. also offers some great Braille displays.  I have the BrailleEdge 
40, and I'm using it almost constantly.  It's a truly great machine, and the 
company stands behind its products, offering quick turn-around time if the 
machine needs servicing.  I think that's a crucial point.  Someone told me that 
the Braille Me, offered by National Braille Press is inexpensive, but repair is 
hard to get.  I'll also say that using a Braille device with an iPhone allows 
you to find things and perform functions on your phone quickly. 



  Peace & Blessings, 
  Duane L. Steele
  Phone (276) 730-5194

  On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


most every company makes iOS compatible braille displays with braille keys 
for input. 
It partly depends on what features your friend wants and how much money 
they have.
The Orbit Reader 20, about $600 from Orbit Research.
I own that one and find it excellent, plus it has the ability to write 
notes or read BRF files on an SD card.
'Focus 40 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific, around $3000. Can connect 
to up to 5 different devices, also has a Mini sd card and lots of features.
The BrailleMe is another small display for under $500, I think from 
Perkins, but someone will correct that.
Humanware makes a couple the Brailliant BI 14 and 32 cell models.
O, and Freedom Scientific also has the Focus 14 for around $1000.
That should give your friend a start for doing research at each companies 
web site to get further details.
HTH,



Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



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 wrote:


   Good Morning All,

  A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an 
iPhone, iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must 
have Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:

  -  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with 
iDevices?

  - If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items 
(per model please).


  
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Re: Excel documents

[Richard Turner]

I found it just by searching for Excel. The first match is Microsoft Excel, 
which is the link I sent earlier.
I have no idea why it wasn't found.


Richard

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On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:45 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:

 Kimberly, you can’t find it because it’s actually called Microsoft Excel.

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Aug 2019, at 16:42, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hey Richard,

I can’t seem to find this app in the app store.  Could it be called something 
else?  I’m in the US.

Thanks again for any help.

Kim

On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

If you just want to read them, excel for iOS in the app store.
I find trying to edit them beyond frustrating on the devices.
So, I only do that on the computer.


Richard

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Hello,

What is the best way to access Excel docs using VO on an iPhone?

Thanks,

Kim

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Got all my favorites up on iHeartRadio

[Kathy Brandt]

This was an accident; I’ve been able to duplicate this: I go to library, double 
tap on saved stations, flick to where it makes the third click sound, since 
there is no text, double tap on that place, (play lists is right underneath 
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Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

[Janet Bell]

Hi Jen no I am not sure and I don’t know how to find out.

From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

Hi Janet, 

Maybe you should reinstall the app on your phone? Not sure why it would show on 
your phone but now on your watch. Are you sure that this particular app has a 
watch counterpart?

Jenn


Jenn and Kumi


  On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:17 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:


   
  Hi Jen I can find the apps that are on my watch in the watch app on my phone 
but I can’t find any other apps that are not installed on my watch.  Janet

  From: Jennie Facer 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:01 PM
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  Subject: Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

  Hi Janet, 

  In the Watch app on your phone, just flick down to the app in question. 
Double tap on that and then there shoudl be a button that says sync with your 
watch or Use with AppleWatch off or on. Make sure it is on. i don’t know the 
exact verbage for it though. Sorry about that.

  Jenn


  Jenn and Kumi


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morning guys,  is there a way that I can move an app from my iPhone to my 
apple watch.  I don’t know why it didn’t sync with my watch in the first place. 
 I would still like to keep it on my pphone as well, it is just that my watch 
comes out with me more than the phone these days.  Hope someone can help,   
Janet
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Duane Steele]

I'm told that the BrailleEdge, though being discontinued, will still be 
available, and it will still be repaired.  I’m sorry it has been replaced by 
something that might not work as well.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> yes, the Braille Edge was a great device. Too bad they have moved on to the 
> QBraille, which has the potential of being a great device but has issues when 
> trying to use it with more than one device or via bluetooth with a computer.
> If the Braille Edge is still available, it is a good choice for around $2800 
> to $3000.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hims Inc. also offers some great Braille displays.  I have the BrailleEdge 
>> 40, and I'm using it almost constantly.  It's a truly great machine, and the 
>> company stands behind its products, offering quick turn-around time if the 
>> machine needs servicing.  I think that's a crucial point.  Someone told me 
>> that the Braille Me, offered by National Braille Press is inexpensive, but 
>> repair is hard to get.  I'll also say that using a Braille device with an 
>> iPhone allows you to find things and perform functions on your phone 
>> quickly. 
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>> 
>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> most every company makes iOS compatible braille displays with braille keys 
>>> for input.
>>> It partly depends on what features your friend wants and how much money 
>>> they have.
>>> The Orbit Reader 20, about $600 from Orbit Research.
>>> I own that one and find it excellent, plus it has the ability to write 
>>> notes or read BRF files on an SD card.
>>> 'Focus 40 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific, around $3000. Can connect 
>>> to up to 5 different devices, also has a Mini sd card and lots of features.
>>> The BrailleMe is another small display for under $500, I think from 
>>> Perkins, but someone will correct that.
>>> Humanware makes a couple the Brailliant BI 14 and 32 cell models.
>>> O, and Freedom Scientific also has the Focus 14 for around $1000.
>>> That should give your friend a start for doing research at each companies 
>>> web site to get further details.
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 21, 2019, at 3:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
 
  Good Morning All,
 
 A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, 
 iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must 
 have Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:
 
 -  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with 
 iDevices?
 
 - If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
 model please).
 
 
 
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 - “I’ve been dealing with insomnia,  I’m just so tired of it.”
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Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Janet,

Maybe you should reinstall the app on your phone? Not sure why it would show on 
your phone but now on your watch. Are you sure that this particular app has a 
watch counterpart?

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:17 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
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> 
> Hi Jen I can find the apps that are on my watch in the watch app on my phone 
> but I can’t find any other apps that are not installed on my watch.  Janet
>  
> From: Jennie Facer
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch
>  
> Hi Janet,
>  
> In the Watch app on your phone, just flick down to the app in question. 
> Double tap on that and then there shoudl be a button that says sync with your 
> watch or Use with AppleWatch off or on. Make sure it is on. i don’t know the 
> exact verbage for it though. Sorry about that.
>  
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2019, at 10:36 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
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>> 
>> morning guys,  is there a way that I can move an app from my iPhone to my 
>> apple watch.  I don’t know why it didn’t sync with my watch in the first 
>> place.  I would still like to keep it on my pphone as well, it is just that 
>> my watch comes out with me more than the phone these days.  Hope someone can 
>> help,   Janet
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Re: Excel documents

[Richard Turner]

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-excel/id586683407


Richard

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On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:42 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
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Hey Richard,

I can’t seem to find this app in the app store.  Could it be called something 
else?  I’m in the US.

Thanks again for any help.

Kim

On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Richard Turner 
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If you just want to read them, excel for iOS in the app store.
I find trying to edit them beyond frustrating on the devices.
So, I only do that on the computer.


Richard

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Hello,

What is the best way to access Excel docs using VO on an iPhone?

Thanks,

Kim

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Re: Excel documents

[Alex Stone]

Kimberly, you can’t find it because it’s actually called Microsoft Excel.

Sent from my iPhone

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Hey Richard,

I can’t seem to find this app in the app store.  Could it be called something 
else?  I’m in the US.

Thanks again for any help.

Kim

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If you just want to read them, excel for iOS in the app store.
I find trying to edit them beyond frustrating on the devices.
So, I only do that on the computer.


Richard

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Hello,

What is the best way to access Excel docs using VO on an iPhone?

Thanks,

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Re: Excel documents

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

Hey Richard,

I can’t seem to find this app in the app store.  Could it be called something 
else?  I’m in the US.

Thanks again for any help.

Kim

> On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Richard Turner  
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> If you just want to read them, excel for iOS in the app store.
> I find trying to edit them beyond frustrating on the devices.
> So, I only do that on the computer.
> 
> 
> Richard
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> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
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>> Hello,
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>> What is the best way to access Excel docs using VO on an iPhone?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Kim
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Richard Turner]

yes, the Braille Edge was a great device. Too bad they have moved on to the 
QBraille, which has the potential of being a great device but has issues when 
trying to use it with more than one device or via bluetooth with a computer.
If the Braille Edge is still available, it is a good choice for around $2800 to 
$3000.


Richard

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On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

 Hims Inc. also offers some great Braille displays.  I have the BrailleEdge 
40, and I'm using it almost constantly.  It's a truly great machine, and the 
company stands behind its products, offering quick turn-around time if the 
machine needs servicing.  I think that's a crucial point.  Someone told me that 
the Braille Me, offered by National Braille Press is inexpensive, but repair is 
hard to get.  I'll also say that using a Braille device with an iPhone allows 
you to find things and perform functions on your phone quickly.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Richard Turner 
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most every company makes iOS compatible braille displays with braille keys for 
input.
It partly depends on what features your friend wants and how much money they 
have.
The Orbit Reader 20, about $600 from Orbit Research.
I own that one and find it excellent, plus it has the ability to write notes or 
read BRF files on an SD card.
'Focus 40 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific, around $3000. Can connect to 
up to 5 different devices, also has a Mini sd card and lots of features.
The BrailleMe is another small display for under $500, I think from Perkins, 
but someone will correct that.
Humanware makes a couple the Brailliant BI 14 and 32 cell models.
O, and Freedom Scientific also has the Focus 14 for around $1000.
That should give your friend a start for doing research at each companies web 
site to get further details.
HTH,


Richard

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On Aug 21, 2019, at 3:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
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 Good Morning All,

A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, iPad 
or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have Braille 
I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:

-  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with iDevices?

- If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
model please).



- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

[Janet Bell]

Hi Jen I can find the apps that are on my watch in the watch app on my phone 
but I can’t find any other apps that are not installed on my watch.  Janet

From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

Hi Janet, 

In the Watch app on your phone, just flick down to the app in question. Double 
tap on that and then there shoudl be a button that says sync with your watch or 
Use with AppleWatch off or on. Make sure it is on. i don’t know the exact 
verbage for it though. Sorry about that.

Jenn


Jenn and Kumi


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  morning guys,  is there a way that I can move an app from my iPhone to my 
apple watch.  I don’t know why it didn’t sync with my watch in the first place. 
 I would still like to keep it on my pphone as well, it is just that my watch 
comes out with me more than the phone these days.  Hope someone can help,   
Janet
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Re: moving an app from my iPhone to apple watch

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Janet,

In the Watch app on your phone, just flick down to the app in question. Double 
tap on that and then there shoudl be a button that says sync with your watch or 
Use with AppleWatch off or on. Make sure it is on. i don’t know the exact 
verbage for it though. Sorry about that.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Aug 20, 2019, at 10:36 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
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> morning guys,  is there a way that I can move an app from my iPhone to my 
> apple watch.  I don’t know why it didn’t sync with my watch in the first 
> place.  I would still like to keep it on my pphone as well, it is just that 
> my watch comes out with me more than the phone these days.  Hope someone can 
> help,   Janet
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Duane Steele]

Hims Inc. also offers some great Braille displays.  I have the BrailleEdge 40, 
and I'm using it almost constantly.  It's a truly great machine, and the 
company stands behind its products, offering quick turn-around time if the 
machine needs servicing.  I think that's a crucial point.  Someone told me that 
the Braille Me, offered by National Braille Press is inexpensive, but repair is 
hard to get.  I'll also say that using a Braille device with an iPhone allows 
you to find things and perform functions on your phone quickly.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> most every company makes iOS compatible braille displays with braille keys 
> for input.
> It partly depends on what features your friend wants and how much money they 
> have.
> The Orbit Reader 20, about $600 from Orbit Research.
> I own that one and find it excellent, plus it has the ability to write notes 
> or read BRF files on an SD card.
> 'Focus 40 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific, around $3000. Can connect 
> to up to 5 different devices, also has a Mini sd card and lots of features.
> The BrailleMe is another small display for under $500, I think from Perkins, 
> but someone will correct that.
> Humanware makes a couple the Brailliant BI 14 and 32 cell models.
> O, and Freedom Scientific also has the Focus 14 for around $1000.
> That should give your friend a start for doing research at each companies web 
> site to get further details.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 3:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
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>>  Good Morning All,
>> 
>> A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, 
>> iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have 
>> Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:
>> 
>> -  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with 
>> iDevices?
>> 
>> - If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
>> model please).
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Richard Turner]

most every company makes iOS compatible braille displays with braille keys for 
input.
It partly depends on what features your friend wants and how much money they 
have.
The Orbit Reader 20, about $600 from Orbit Research.
I own that one and find it excellent, plus it has the ability to write notes or 
read BRF files on an SD card.
'Focus 40 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific, around $3000. Can connect to 
up to 5 different devices, also has a Mini sd card and lots of features.
The BrailleMe is another small display for under $500, I think from Perkins, 
but someone will correct that.
Humanware makes a couple the Brailliant BI 14 and 32 cell models.
O, and Freedom Scientific also has the Focus 14 for around $1000.
That should give your friend a start for doing research at each companies web 
site to get further details.
HTH,


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Aug 21, 2019, at 3:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 Good Morning All,

A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, iPad 
or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have Braille 
I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:

-  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with iDevices?

- If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
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Re: Twitter

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Yes, there are two ways to accomplish this. I am assuming that you have more 
than one account set up.

First way:
1. Open the user profile menu in the top left corner of the app.
2. The first thing that should be presented is a list of your accounts. I 
believe it will show something like the first three most visited accounts you 
use. Just tap on the one you would like to open. If you have more than three 
accounts you can tap on the more accounts button below the list of accounts.
3. This will open the accounts list. This will contain the list of all your 
Twitter accounts, an edit button and the add account button.

Second way:
1. Find the Profile account button in the top left corner of the app.
2. Double tap and hold on the button and it will open the accounts screen and 
you will be presented with the accounts screen with all of your logged in 
accounts and both the edits and add new account button.

I hope this helps,

Ed W.


> On Aug 20, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
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> I’m not certain, but I don’t think so.
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Steve 
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> Hi All, 
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> Using the Twitter app.  Is it possible to switch between 2 different Twitter 
> accounts?  Thanks in advance!
> 
> Steve
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Re: Apple Cash card?

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mary,

Yes I have set this up. I had no issues with the process. If you follow the 
instructions you will have to put in your last four digits of your social 
security number, and your banks routing number. As well as the account number.

I have found that some of these screens need you to tap in the middle of the 
screen for VoiceOver to focus on the content. It seems that VO doesn’t refresh 
when the new page/screen loads.

I wish I could be of more assistance.

Ed W.
 

> On Aug 20, 2019, at 5:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Hi folks,
> I just applied for the Apple card and have it in my wallet now. In reading 
> about it, I was given to understand that you should get an Apple Cash card 
> which is issued by some bank called greens I think it is, and this allows you 
> to do more with Apple Cash then just pay off your bill. And then I found an 
> article that tells you how to set up Apple Cash. I tried both approaches 
> referenced, when going into settings then Apple Pay and wallet, the other 
> going directly into wallet and clicking on Apple Cash to get the process 
> started. In both instances, I am being sent around in a circle. I hit set up, 
> then continue, I’m back to being told it’s not set up and I have to set it up 
> and I do it all again. I’m not seeing any error message. I don’t have a 
> physical card, and I didn’t think one was necessary. I am thoroughly 
> confused. Has anyone done this?
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Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

 Good Morning All,

A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, iPad 
or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have Braille 
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-  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with iDevices?

- If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
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Wrote I heart radio about the problems

[Kathy Brandt]

Really hope they fix soon! Their support page was interesting, in that there 
was provision to submit a file or attachment, but could only write in the 
description field, which I thought initially would have been like the subject 
field, but whatever. I also submitted rating and review to the App Store, and 
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Re: What 3words, The app that can save your life

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

Just my 2 cents worth here; if the location desired is in a city then it is 
true that a “citified address” will probably be quite suitable.

However, I live in an extremely sparsely populated area in northern Wisconsin 
and it does seem that pin-pointing one’s location with “What3Words” would have 
an advantage in such circumstances.

There are square miles between where I live on U.S. Highway 2 and the south 
shore of Lake Superior where the only description you couold offer emergency 
help is “a few miles from Firelane 236 on Firelane 419.”  If immediate help is 
needed, I’m afraid directions like that just might not cut it.  And this is in 
a relatively domesticated state; imagine how helpful this might be in Montana, 
Idaho, New Mexico, etc.

And I realize that wandering out in such wild regions will likely render a 
smart phone useless, but do the satellite phones offer such favors?


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On Aug 20, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

Because cell phone audio is not the best audio in the world, numbers can be 
misheard. Three words are less likely to be misheard than strings of numbers. 
There have been many incidents where mishearing has sent first responders to 
incorrect addresses here in N.Y.C.


On 8/17/2019 9:58 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
>  It is indeed a very interesting concept. However, I am not 100% certain that 
> I follow its logic. Or perhaps what I mean to say is “follow the point “. Why 
> complicate things by having to remember words or use words to find an address 
> when using an address is the best way for someone to find  you in most cases? 
> The address system currently being used has been tried and true for what 
> seems like forever. Am I also missing something?
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Hi to all, voice dream and zipped files in dropbox are working at least for now

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I called a friend of mine and he suggested some
experiments I could do with trying to use different zip programs and
adding the files to dropbox.  I don't know what happened, but I can
use 7zip which is my default zip program to make zipped files of audio
books and once they are uploaded to dropbox, seem to work just fine in
voice dream reader.  This is so cool.  I've been watching described
movies that I had put individual mp3 files
of a few movies and they play fine with this app.  I have just
finished watching The Exorcist as well as a couple Clint Eastwood
Westerns that weren't to bad.  Deleting my individual mp3 files or
zipped files from the app is pretty easy as well.  I don't know at
this time if I'll get voice dream scanner or not, but I have heard
good things about that app as well.
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