I got my watch

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


First of all, thank you to those of you who responded to my questions 
about the Apple watch. I really appreciate the help and recommendations 
that were offered.



Well, I got my watch. I received it yesterday. I got the 40 MM model. 
It's the 5 gen. I really am enjoying figuring it out. I've been reading 
stuff on Apple Vis, and listening to some podcasts. I've also just 
messed with some stuff on my own, and have been doing some exploring. 
I've still got a long way to go with it. But so far, I love it.



I do have a couple of questions though. I can probably find the answers 
on my own.


However, I've been reading a lot.


First of all, how do I find out who is in my friends list?

From what I understand, it uses your first 12 favorites that are in 
your iPhone. Although, I am pretty sure I don't have that many. I 
thought that I just needed to press the button next to the crown.



However, I have pressed this button once, and then 2 times in a row. But 
it never goes into a friends list. When I press it 2 times quickly, it 
tells me that I can add a card for Apple pay.



What am I doing wrong?

Or is this different with the 5th gen?

I know that some people state that the content on Apple Vis is out of 
date. Maybe so. I can't say for sure, because I don't know enough about 
the Apple watch.



Also, sometimes when I am replying to a text, when I am done dictating, 
I somehow end up out of the messaging App. This has happened a couple of 
times. So it seems then that I then have to dictate the message again?


Why is this? And why might this sometimes happen.


Also, is there a way to increase the length of the time the watch stays 
awake?



And last question.

Can I possibly change the ring tone, and the message tone? Or the voices 
that are used?



Any help is very much appreciated. I hope to enjoy my watch for a rather 
long time.



Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Does Anyone Know Which Watches Will Still Be Available in IOS 14?

[Peter Logan]

Series 3 and above… However not all new features will be back to the series 3…

Sent from my IPhome.

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 10:13 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't think the 3 will be out as it's still a sold device in the apple 
> range.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2020 9:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Does Anyone Know Which Watches Will Still Be Available in IOS 14?
> 
> Does anyone know which apple watches will be available in IOS 14? I have the 
> series 3 but was thinking about getting the series 5 but still would like to 
> know if the 3 will be out? 
> 
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RE: Does Anyone Know Which Watches Will Still Be Available in IOS 14?

[Simon A Fogarty]

I wouldn't think the 3 will be out as it's still a sold device in the apple 
range.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2020 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Does Anyone Know Which Watches Will Still Be Available in IOS 14?

Does anyone know which apple watches will be available in IOS 14? I have the 
series 3 but was thinking about getting the series 5 but still would like to 
know if the 3 will be out? 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Asterisk keystroke on bluetooth keyboard?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Shift and number 8 from the number row.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2020 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Asterisk keystroke on bluetooth keyboard?

Anone happen to know what’s the key to get the Star or Asterisk with a 
bluetooth keyboard?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

[Rob Armstrong]

I still use iOS 12.4.  Settings may have changed in iOS 13.

Look in Settings, then Sounds.
The first heading in Sounds is Vibrate.
The first entry under the heading is "Vibrate on ring".  Make sure this is on.

Rob

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Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

Subject says it all. My phone does not vibrate on ring. 

I have gone into Settings, into Sounds and Haptics, says Vibrate is on. I went 
to General to see if I could find anything about it. I went to Accessibility. 
So, I am missing something somewhere. Could someone please tell me where to go 
to get my vibrations set?
Thanks.

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Re: putting audiobook from CD onto my phone

[DJ]

Hi there,
You could use a cd ripping program for windows to rip the audio to MP3
files. Then, make sure that the meta-data is correct for each audio file.
Place them into a folder in dropbox or other online storage tool of your
choice, then you will be able to freely access them the way you want.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 4:00 PM R Van Lant  wrote:

> I have an audiobook of prayers and poems that is currently on audio CD.
> To make it easier to use  and move around the various sections, I was
> thinking I’d like to put  it on my phone.  I’m experienced at moving MP3
> files and such onto my phone from my laptop via dropbox, but I’d appreciate
> some advice on how to start from an audiobook CD.  The last time I tried
> this, my laptop wanted to start playing the book when I put it in the
> drive, and I wasn’t sure how to copy the files into a format that could go
> to the phone.  Would someone kindly give me some guidance on the best
> approach to do this?  If you’ve done something similar, is it likely that
> each poem or prayer will have it’s own file so I can navigate them on my
> phone the way I would  have navigated them with tracks on a CD player?  If
> not, maybe it’s better for me to re-buy it  in a digital format, if that is
> now available.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
> Windows 10 laptop running JAWS 2020 and iPhone SE 2020 running latest IOS.
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Re: Lightning alert

[Jewel]

At least, one has the comfort of knowing if one hears the thunder, that one can 
be confident that, 
unless he/she is one of the microscopic number of lightning-proof people, 
he/she hasn't been struck.
I heard of a guy who took shelter in a shed that stood in his horse's  paddock 
.  He heard, what 
sounded like an explosion, and when he poked his head out of the shed, there  
was a scorched patch 
on the ground, and, nearby, the blackened corpse of the animal.
 Shod horses are, particularly, vulnerable to lightning strikes because of 
their iron footwear.

 Jewel

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From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:25 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

Yeah but those that have been hit and survived are a lot less than those who 
have been hit and not 
survived.

 Some guy in the states had seemingly been hit 7 times

And if a storm is rolling in from somewhere and you can hear the thunder then 
the lightneing is 
going to be on you quicker than you can move.

 Remember that lightening is the fastest thing we have on earth
Being light and electricity
The noise is the sound barrier being broken


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 1:03 PM
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I agree with Simon that being alerted when lightning has struck:  a little late 
for that, but I 
disagree with him that being struck by lightning will put both you and your 
phone out of order 
because there are many recorded instances of unfortunate and, obviously, 
attractive people who have 
been lightning-struck, not only once but several-many times who have lived to 
bore their friends 
with the tale of their, miraculous, experience.

  Jewel

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From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:49 PM
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If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,  I don't see the 
point?

 If it's struck then it's not an issue
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,  Then if it's 
already struck, it will 
be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone will be 
working.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
when lightning has 
struck. Other than that, I love the app.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

[Shai]

Hello Carolyn,
After double tapping on sounds, flick to the right and double tap on
ring tone. Following that, see if there is a vibration setting there.



On 6/23/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Subject says it all. My phone does not vibrate on ring.
>
> I have gone into Settings, into Sounds and Haptics, says
> Vibrate is on. I went to General to see if I could find
> anything about it. I went to
> Accessibility. So, I am missing something somewhere. Could
> someone please tell me where to go to get my vibrations set?
> Thanks.
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Re: Austin American Statesman

[Gary Ketler]

The most accessible Austin media news apps are KXAn and KVUE.

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
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RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

[Carolyn]

I did that, and it was on, so I turned it off, then back on. No change. Thanks. 
I also thought you could increase Vibration, but I saw no choice there. Thanks. 

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Carolyn:

Go into Settings, accessibility and then touch.  Swipe right til you get to 
vibrations and make sure it is turned on. 

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Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[Marie]

Oh no, I will wait. 
Thanks,
Marie

From: Richard Turner 
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Subject: RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

The public beta is not out yet.

Someone on this list has gotten invites privately and cannot share that link.

Another list posted a link to beta profiles for developers that I guess someone 
has made available but that is a violation of Apple’s Non Disclosure Agreement, 
so I deleted that email.

Usually it is the month after the WWDC before the public betas are available.

 

You could try going to https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/

And see if you can sign up.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

 

Richard,

Did you post a link to the Beta 14 for IOS? I can’t seem to find the post so 
can’t remember if it was on this list or another. Could you please post again? 
I want to give it a try on my IPod  I know it is not supposed to be available 
until July but...

Thanks

Marie

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:06 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

 

>From Blind Bargains today:

#WWDC: VoiceOver Gains New Image Description Capabilities among other Changes
J.J. Meddaugh Jun 22, 2020 7:25 PM ET

 

Like just about everything else these days, Apple's worldwide developers 
conference has switched to a virtual format for 2020. But a variety of new 
features have been announced across Apple's line of devices, including some new 
VoiceOver improvements.
While few details have been shared, VoiceOver appears to be gaining several 
features to help navigate apps and web pages which may be lacking proper 
accessibility support. Apple will try to identify controls that are not 
properly labeled, and also provide more verbose descriptions for images, 
including images on websites.
Outside of VoiceOver, Siri claims to be able to answer more questions with 
direct answers, instead of the classic "I can search the web for that" 
response. You can also send audio messages directly from Siri, or send your ETA 
to someone.
Apple grabs one of Android's top features in on-device dictation, useful on an 
airplane or another location where Internet access may be spotty. Speaking of 
Android features, iOS is gaining new ways to organize apps, and enhanced 
support for app widgets.
In messages, you can now pin up to nine conversations to the top of the screen 
for easy access. And the most important feature of all, a new face covering 
option for your Memoji.
There of course is a lot more than this. You can watch the keynote or [view a 
near-complete list of new features from 
Apple..'(https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-14-preview/features/) Here are the 
specific features listed under the accessibility heading:

VoiceOver Recognition
On-device intelligence recognizes key elements displayed on your screen to add 
VoiceOver support for app and web experiences that don t have accessibility 
support built in.

VoiceOver Recognition: Image descriptions
VoiceOver reads complete-sentence descriptions of images and photos within apps 
and on the web.

VoiceOver Recognition: Text recognition
VoiceOver speaks the text it identifies within images and photos.

VoiceOver Recognition: Screen recognition
VoiceOver automatically detects interface controls to aid in navigating your 
apps, making them more accessible.

Headphone Accommodations
This new accessibility feature is designed to amplify soft sounds and adjust 
certain frequencies for an individual s hearing, to help music, movies, phone 
calls, and podcasts sound more crisp and clear. Headphone Accommodations also 
supports Transparency mode on AirPods Pro, making quiet voices more audible and 
tuning the sounds of your environment to your hearing needs.

Source: WWDC Keynote

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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I didn’t read anything that said they would force you to organize your apps in 
a 

How to Route Phone Calls to Bluetooth Speaker?

[dani pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I have a Bose Soundlink Micro speaker and want to be able to use it
for phone calls. How do I get the call to go through the Bluetooth
speaker as opposed to the iPhone speaker? I've looked at the Call
Audio Routing and only see an option to route to a Bluetooth headset.

My husband says there's a pop-up screen that lets you select where you
want to route a call to after the call has been made. Does anyone know
what I need to do to be able to access that screen?

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RE: Austin American Statesman

[Larry Lumpkin]

I do get newsline on the stream but the paper is very truncated. There aren't 
many articles there.


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Larry,
Even if the Statesman's app is inaccessible, you can still access the content 
from the NFB Newsline app, or however you access Newsline content. It should 
also be on BookShare since they have a partnership with Newsline.

Good luck,
Wayne Merritt

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Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

[Holly]

Carolyn:

Go into Settings, accessibility and then touch.  Swipe right til you get to 
vibrations and make sure it is turned on. 


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Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[Mary Otten]

Well, from some thing I read, and I did not listen to the keynote, so this is 
from an article, it sounded like you didn’t have to go with the whole let Apple 
do the library thing for you if you didn’t want to.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 1:39 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
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> 
> I’m concerned over what they are proposing for app organization: I want to 
> organize my apps the way I think they should be organized, rather than how 
> they think they should be. I skip page one with the widgets, meaning the rest 
> of my apps are on three pages, arranged in folders, with the apps in each 
> being in alphabetical order.
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:01 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Wow, with an app launcher, being able to place widgets on any screen 
>> whatsoever, and being able to set my default web browser and email client 
>> I’ll get some of the things I mis most from Android. I’d think adding 
>> captions to pictures would also be a useful feature for us blind users. I 
>> also like some of the new features being added for the Airpod Pros.
>>  
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>  
>> From: 'Devin Prater' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 8:04 PM
>> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur
>>  
>> See this page: iOS features
>>  
>> Legends on Twitter tell of enormous Investiture, like AutoMagic panning for 
>> braille displays, and even more to come. Like Kelsier says, “There’s always 
>> another secret.” Or something.
>> Devin Prater
>> d.pra...@me.com
>> Https://devinprater.github.io
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>  
>> In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely 
>> nothing about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That’s 
>> not unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don’t 
>> announce. I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech 
>> articles I have read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted person, 
>> and if anyone knows of anything publicly shown at the event regarding 
>> voiceover accessibility. I can certainly think of some things. Fix the focus 
>> bug and email would be my number one, and that’s not a new problem.
>> Mary
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Phone does not vibrate on ring.

[Carolyn]

Subject says it all. My phone does not vibrate on ring. 

I have gone into Settings, into Sounds and Haptics, says
Vibrate is on. I went to General to see if I could find
anything about it. I went to 
Accessibility. So, I am missing something somewhere. Could
someone please tell me where to go to get my vibrations set?
Thanks.

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Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[Mary Otten]

According to what I read, if you choose to enact this library functionality, 
Apple will put your apps into folders where it thinks they belong. Now I 
suppose you could go in and change that. But I would just to soon do it myself 
to start with, rather than having Apple do it for me.


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> 
> 
> I didn’t read anything that said they would force you to organize your apps 
> in a particular way. It seems like Apple is giving you more options on how to 
> organize your apps and manage your home pages and not taking options away 
> from people.
>  
> --
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Brandt
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
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>  
> I’m concerned over what they are proposing for app organization: I want to 
> organize my apps the way I think they should be organized, rather than how 
> they think they should be. I skip page one with the widgets, meaning the rest 
> of my apps are on three pages, arranged in folders, with the apps in each 
> being in alphabetical order.
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:01 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Wow, with an app launcher, being able to place widgets on any screen 
> whatsoever, and being able to set my default web browser and email client 
> I’ll get some of the things I mis most from Android. I’d think adding 
> captions to pictures would also be a useful feature for us blind users. I 
> also like some of the new features being added for the Airpod Pros.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>  
> From: 'Devin Prater' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 8:04 PM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur
>  
> See this page: iOS features
>  
> Legends on Twitter tell of enormous Investiture, like AutoMagic panning for 
> braille displays, and even more to come. Like Kelsier says, “There’s always 
> another secret.” Or something.
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> Https://devinprater.github.io
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  
> In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely nothing 
> about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That’s not 
> unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don’t 
> announce. I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech 
> articles I have read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted person, and 
> if anyone knows of anything publicly shown at the event regarding voiceover 
> accessibility. I can certainly think of some things. Fix the focus bug and 
> email would be my number one, and that’s not a new problem.
> Mary
> 
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RE: Does Anyone Know Which Watches Will Still Be Available in IOS 14?

[Richard Turner]

According to the preview link on Apple's page, Watch OS 7 will work on Series 
3,4 and 5, with at least an iPhone 6S or later.
Here is the link for the full details:
https://www.apple.com/watchos/watchos-preview/



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Subject: Does Anyone Know Which Watches Will Still Be Available in IOS 14?

Does anyone know which apple watches will be available in IOS 14? I have the 
series 3 but was thinking about getting the series 5 but still would like to 
know if the 3 will be out? 

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Does Anyone Know Which Watches Will Still Be Available in IOS 14?

[Shirley Baker]

Does anyone know which apple watches will be available in IOS 14? I have the 
series 3 but was thinking about getting the series 5 but still would like to 
know if the 3 will be out? 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Austin American Statesman

[Gary Ketler]

Unfortunately the newsline version isn’t always current.

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Larry,
> Even if the Statesman's app is inaccessible, you can still access the
> content from the NFB Newsline app, or however you access Newsline
> content. It should also be on BookShare since they have a partnership
> with Newsline.
> 
> Good luck,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 6/23/20, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> Does anyone know if the Austin American Statesman app for I devices is
>> accessible?
>> 
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RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[Richard Turner]

The public beta is not out yet.
Someone on this list has gotten invites privately and cannot share that link.
Another list posted a link to beta profiles for developers that I guess someone 
has made available but that is a violation of Apple’s Non Disclosure Agreement, 
so I deleted that email.
Usually it is the month after the WWDC before the public betas are available.

You could try going to https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/
And see if you can sign up.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

Richard,
Did you post a link to the Beta 14 for IOS? I can’t seem to find the post so 
can’t remember if it was on this list or another. Could you please post again? 
I want to give it a try on my IPod  I know it is not supposed to be available 
until July but...
Thanks
Marie

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

>From Blind Bargains today:
#WWDC: VoiceOver Gains New Image Description Capabilities among other Changes
J.J. 
Meddaugh
 Jun 22, 2020 7:25 PM ET


Like just about everything else these days, Apple's worldwide developers 
conference has switched to a virtual format for 2020. But a variety of new 
features have been announced across Apple's line of devices, including some new 
VoiceOver improvements.
While few details have been shared, VoiceOver appears to be gaining several 
features to help navigate apps and web pages which may be lacking proper 
accessibility support. Apple will try to identify controls that are not 
properly labeled, and also provide more verbose descriptions for images, 
including images on websites.
Outside of VoiceOver, Siri claims to be able to answer more questions with 
direct answers, instead of the classic "I can search the web for that" 
response. You can also send audio messages directly from Siri, or send your ETA 
to someone.
Apple grabs one of Android's top features in on-device dictation, useful on an 
airplane or another location where Internet access may be spotty. Speaking of 
Android features, iOS is gaining new ways to organize apps, and enhanced 
support for app widgets.
In messages, you can now pin up to nine conversations to the top of the screen 
for easy access. And the most important feature of all, a new face covering 
option for your Memoji.
There of course is a lot more than this. You can watch the 
keynote
 or [view a near-complete list of new features from 
Apple..'(https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-14-preview/features/)
 Here are the specific features listed under the accessibility heading:

VoiceOver Recognition

On-device intelligence recognizes key elements displayed on your screen to add 
VoiceOver support for app and web experiences that don t have accessibility 
support built in.

VoiceOver Recognition: Image descriptions

VoiceOver reads complete-sentence descriptions of images and photos within apps 
and on the web.

VoiceOver Recognition: Text recognition

VoiceOver speaks the text it identifies within images and photos.

VoiceOver Recognition: Screen recognition

VoiceOver automatically detects interface controls to aid in navigating your 
apps, making them more accessible.

Headphone Accommodations

This new accessibility feature is designed to amplify soft sounds and adjust 
certain frequencies for an individual s hearing, to help music, movies, phone 
calls, and podcasts sound more crisp and clear. Headphone Accommodations also 
supports Transparency mode on AirPods Pro, making quiet voices more audible and 
tuning the sounds of your environment to your hearing needs.
Source: WWDC 

Re: Lightning alert

[Gadget Girl]

Hi. I listened to a podcast that was reviewed on AppleVis years ago and got the 
app, Weather Radio. It has a paid Lightening Alert which was (and still is) 
$4.99 USD.  You renew it every year. Although sometimes I miss the date, it 
still gives me alerts.  It gives lightening at approx. 4 miles out and is very 
accurate in my case.  i've been using it a very long time… Years; and have 
never been struct!

Best regards,
Anita

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Yea, I have a friend here in Florida who has been struck 5 times.  He is like 
> a lightening magnet!  When a thunder storm is near, he does not stay near us 
> if we are outside.
> Lightening here is a real problem that we all take seriously.  That is why it 
> is so important to be able to get any kind of warning if there is a 
> lightening strike anywhere within say 30 miles or so.  These storms can move 
> 40 to 50 MPH so it does not take long till it is on us.  Our public schools 
> are told that if there is one lightening flash within 30 miles, they must 
> hold the students inside for an additional 30 minutes till they can be 
> dismissed or go outside.  We need apps that will give us any advanced warning.
> -Steve
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 12:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lightning alert
> 
> Yeah but those that have been hit and survived are a lot less than those who 
> have been hit and not survived.
> 
> Some guy in the states had seemingly been hit 7 times 
> 
> And if a storm is rolling in from somewhere and you can hear the thunder then 
> the lightneing is going to be on you quicker than you can move.
> 
> Remember that lightening is the fastest thing we have on earth Being light 
> and electricity The noise is the sound barrier being broken 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
> Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 1:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> I agree with Simon that being alerted when lightning has struck:  a little 
> late for that, but I disagree with him that being struck by lightning will 
> put both you and your phone out of order because there are many recorded 
> instances of unfortunate and, obviously, attractive people who have been 
> lightning-struck, not only once but several-many times who have lived to bore 
> their friends with the tale of their, miraculous, experience.
> 
>  Jewel
> 
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> From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:49 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: Lightning alert
> 
> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,  I don't see the 
> point?
> 
> If it's struck then it's not an issue
> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,  Then if it's 
> already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or 
> your phone will be working.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Lightning alert
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
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Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[Marie]

Richard,
Did you post a link to the Beta 14 for IOS? I can’t seem to find the post so 
can’t remember if it was on this list or another. Could you please post again? 
I want to give it a try on my IPod  I know it is not supposed to be available 
until July but...
Thanks
Marie

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

>From Blind Bargains today:

#WWDC: VoiceOver Gains New Image Description Capabilities among other Changes
J.J. Meddaugh Jun 22, 2020 7:25 PM ET

 

Like just about everything else these days, Apple's worldwide developers 
conference has switched to a virtual format for 2020. But a variety of new 
features have been announced across Apple's line of devices, including some new 
VoiceOver improvements.
While few details have been shared, VoiceOver appears to be gaining several 
features to help navigate apps and web pages which may be lacking proper 
accessibility support. Apple will try to identify controls that are not 
properly labeled, and also provide more verbose descriptions for images, 
including images on websites.
Outside of VoiceOver, Siri claims to be able to answer more questions with 
direct answers, instead of the classic "I can search the web for that" 
response. You can also send audio messages directly from Siri, or send your ETA 
to someone.
Apple grabs one of Android's top features in on-device dictation, useful on an 
airplane or another location where Internet access may be spotty. Speaking of 
Android features, iOS is gaining new ways to organize apps, and enhanced 
support for app widgets.
In messages, you can now pin up to nine conversations to the top of the screen 
for easy access. And the most important feature of all, a new face covering 
option for your Memoji.
There of course is a lot more than this. You can watch the keynote or [view a 
near-complete list of new features from 
Apple..'(https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-14-preview/features/) Here are the 
specific features listed under the accessibility heading:

VoiceOver Recognition
On-device intelligence recognizes key elements displayed on your screen to add 
VoiceOver support for app and web experiences that don t have accessibility 
support built in.

VoiceOver Recognition: Image descriptions
VoiceOver reads complete-sentence descriptions of images and photos within apps 
and on the web.

VoiceOver Recognition: Text recognition
VoiceOver speaks the text it identifies within images and photos.

VoiceOver Recognition: Screen recognition
VoiceOver automatically detects interface controls to aid in navigating your 
apps, making them more accessible.

Headphone Accommodations
This new accessibility feature is designed to amplify soft sounds and adjust 
certain frequencies for an individual s hearing, to help music, movies, phone 
calls, and podcasts sound more crisp and clear. Headphone Accommodations also 
supports Transparency mode on AirPods Pro, making quiet voices more audible and 
tuning the sounds of your environment to your hearing needs.

Source: WWDC Keynote

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

 

I didn’t read anything that said they would force you to organize your apps in 
a particular way. It seems like Apple is giving you more options on how to 
organize your apps and manage your home pages and not taking options away from 
people.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

 

I’m concerned over what they are proposing for app organization: I want to 
organize my apps the way I think they should be organized, rather than how they 
think they should be. I skip page one with the widgets, meaning the rest of my 
apps are on three pages, arranged in folders, with the apps in each being in 
alphabetical order.

 

 

 

  On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:01 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

  

  Wow, with an app launcher, being able to place widgets on any screen 
whatsoever, and being able to set my default web browser and email client I’ll 
get some of the things I mis most from Android. I’d think adding captions to 
pictures would also be a useful feature for us blind users. I also like some of 
the new features being added for the 

RE: Asterisk keystroke on bluetooth keyboard?

[Richard Turner]

Try turning on keyboard help with control+options+k and pressing keys until you 
hear what you want.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Asterisk keystroke on bluetooth keyboard?

OH oK becausehere on mine, Shift+8 is (. I use mine in Spanish; maybe that’s 
why.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 23 jun 2020, a la(s) 2:36 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Shift plus 8 just like on a regular keyboard.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 12:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Asterisk keystroke on bluetooth keyboard?
> 
> Anone happen to know what’s the key to get the Star or Asterisk with a 
> bluetooth keyboard?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Re: Asterisk keystroke on bluetooth keyboard?

[Gerardo Corripio]

OH oK becausehere on mine, Shift+8 is (. I use mine in Spanish; maybe that’s 
why.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 23 jun 2020, a la(s) 2:36 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Shift plus 8 just like on a regular keyboard.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 12:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Asterisk keystroke on bluetooth keyboard?
> 
> Anone happen to know what’s the key to get the Star or Asterisk with a 
> bluetooth keyboard?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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putting audiobook from CD onto my phone

[R Van Lant]

I have an audiobook of prayers and poems that is currently on audio CD.  To 
make it easier to use  and move around the various sections, I was thinking I'd 
like to put  it on my phone.  I'm experienced at moving MP3 files and such onto 
my phone from my laptop via dropbox, but I'd appreciate some advice on how to 
start from an audiobook CD.  The last time I tried this, my laptop wanted to 
start playing the book when I put it in the drive, and I wasn't sure how to 
copy the files into a format that could go to the phone.  Would someone kindly 
give me some guidance on the best approach to do this?  If you've done 
something similar, is it likely that each poem or prayer will have it's own 
file so I can navigate them on my phone the way I would  have navigated them 
with tracks on a CD player?  If not, maybe it's better for me to re-buy it  in 
a digital format, if that is now available.

Robin
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Re: Austin American Statesman

[Wayne Merritt]

Larry,
Even if the Statesman's app is inaccessible, you can still access the
content from the NFB Newsline app, or however you access Newsline
content. It should also be on BookShare since they have a partnership
with Newsline.

Good luck,
Wayne Merritt

On 6/23/20, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> Does anyone know if the Austin American Statesman app for I devices is
> accessible?
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RE: Asterisk keystroke on bluetooth keyboard?

[Richard Turner]

Shift plus 8 just like on a regular keyboard.



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Corripio
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Anone happen to know what’s the key to get the Star or Asterisk with a 
bluetooth keyboard?

Gera
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Asterisk keystroke on bluetooth keyboard?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Anone happen to know what’s the key to get the Star or Asterisk with a 
bluetooth keyboard?

Gera
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RE: Bluetooth keyboard command question

[Richard Turner]

Press Control+Options+k to get into practice mode.
On the Logitech keyboards, the row with the spacebar is:
Control, FN, Options, command, Spacebar, Command, Options, left arrow, down 
arrow and right arrow.

HTH,



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard command question

I have to revisit your page again too. Finally the Bluetooth keyboard is 
powered on. There’s nothing to indicate which way the battery should go 
visually and I flip them in and flip them out twice and I guess the last time I 
did it they were in wrong. Someone fix that today. But also the light to show 
that it’s powered on is almost impossible to see in daylight. Two people 
couldn’t see it and finally one persisted and was able to spot it. And then 
everything. Up just fine. But now I don’t even remember how to turn the key 
describer on. Be busy for the next few hours but after that Richard, I’ll be 
visiting your page.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The vast majority of them work for all keyboards.
> My Logitech keyboard doesn't work with the ones that use the FN key, but all 
> the rest work fine.
> I put together a list which I may need to add one or two keystrokes to that I 
> put on my web site.
> I have one version in tables and in Excel that has the action, keyboard 
> command, and gesture in three columns.
> I also have a stand-alone document for each.
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> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Yates, Danney' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard command question
> 
> Wayne, I don't know answer to your question, since I use Apple Magic 
> keyboard, but want to thank you for sharing the link; will keep this handy.
> Have a great day,
> Danney
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 3:29 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Bluetooth keyboard command question
> 
> Greetings. I found an Apple Support page with VoiceOver commands for the 
> Magic Bluetooth Keyboard. Though the page says it is for this specific 
> keyboard, would these same commands work for other Bluetooth keyboards? I'm 
> trying to find a quick reference for one of my students. For what it's worth, 
> here is the link:
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fiphone%2Fuse-voiceover-with-magic-keyboard-iph6c494dc6%2Fiosdata=02%7C01%7C%7C942b448498c042a37a2108d817a6d044%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637285352503973805sdata=m60fDrV94aS6zL2FPp4xiVRZzO0RygCNJnM8iFGeG7I%3Dreserved=0
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> Be well,
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard command question

[deidre muccio]

I have to revisit your page again too. Finally the Bluetooth keyboard is 
powered on. There’s nothing to indicate which way the battery should go 
visually and I flip them in and flip them out twice and I guess the last time I 
did it they were in wrong. Someone fix that today. But also the light to show 
that it’s powered on is almost impossible to see in daylight. Two people 
couldn’t see it and finally one persisted and was able to spot it. And then 
everything. Up just fine. But now I don’t even remember how to turn the key 
describer on. Be busy for the next few hours but after that Richard, I’ll be 
visiting your page.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The vast majority of them work for all keyboards.
> My Logitech keyboard doesn't work with the ones that use the FN key, but all 
> the rest work fine.
> I put together a list which I may need to add one or two keystrokes to that I 
> put on my web site.
> I have one version in tables and in Excel that has the action, keyboard 
> command, and gesture in three columns.
> I also have a stand-alone document for each.
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Yates, Danney' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard command question
> 
> Wayne, I don't know answer to your question, since I use Apple Magic 
> keyboard, but want to thank you for sharing the link; will keep this handy.
> Have a great day,
> Danney
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 3:29 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Bluetooth keyboard command question
> 
> Greetings. I found an Apple Support page with VoiceOver commands for the 
> Magic Bluetooth Keyboard. Though the page says it is for this specific 
> keyboard, would these same commands work for other Bluetooth keyboards? I'm 
> trying to find a quick reference for one of my students. For what it's worth, 
> here is the link:
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fiphone%2Fuse-voiceover-with-magic-keyboard-iph6c494dc6%2Fiosdata=02%7C01%7C%7C882bbd6db836494801a908d817797995%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637285157778325009sdata=JGu2zHJPCtkbbQyPQBG5uDfSCV5Pxkj2dixc0lVwaYc%3Dreserved=0
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Austin american statesman e-paper

[Larry Lumpkin]

It looked completely inaccessible to me. How disappointing.

 

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Austin American Statesman

[Larry Lumpkin]

Does anyone know if the Austin American Statesman app for I devices is
accessible?

 

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RE: Lightning alert

[Steve Sweeney]

Hi,
Yea, I have a friend here in Florida who has been struck 5 times.  He is like a 
lightening magnet!  When a thunder storm is near, he does not stay near us if 
we are outside.
Lightening here is a real problem that we all take seriously.  That is why it 
is so important to be able to get any kind of warning if there is a lightening 
strike anywhere within say 30 miles or so.  These storms can move 40 to 50 MPH 
so it does not take long till it is on us.  Our public schools are told that if 
there is one lightening flash within 30 miles, they must hold the students 
inside for an additional 30 minutes till they can be dismissed or go outside.  
We need apps that will give us any advanced warning.
-Steve

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

Yeah but those that have been hit and survived are a lot less than those who 
have been hit and not survived.

 Some guy in the states had seemingly been hit 7 times 

And if a storm is rolling in from somewhere and you can hear the thunder then 
the lightneing is going to be on you quicker than you can move.

 Remember that lightening is the fastest thing we have on earth Being light and 
electricity The noise is the sound barrier being broken 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

I agree with Simon that being alerted when lightning has struck:  a little late 
for that, but I disagree with him that being struck by lightning will put both 
you and your phone out of order because there are many recorded instances of 
unfortunate and, obviously, attractive people who have been lightning-struck, 
not only once but several-many times who have lived to bore their friends with 
the tale of their, miraculous, experience.

  Jewel

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From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:49 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,  I don't see the 
point?

 If it's struck then it's not an issue
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,  Then if it's 
already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or 
your phone will be working.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[Davy Cuppens]

Where they unable to fix it or rather reluctant to do so? I fear the last.
Maybe because too few visually impaired people make reports to Apple about 
our bugs.


-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

Mary,

I'd be very surprised if iOS 14 corrects the native Mail app focus issue if 
they were unable to correct it through the multiple iterations of iOS 13. 
Fortunately, Outlook for iOS is working great for me and doesn't have the 
focus issue so I'm done with the native Mail app.


Alan Lemly

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Of Mary Otten

Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 6:39 PM
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Subject: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely 
nothing about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That�s 
not unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don�t 
announce. I haven�t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech 
articles I have read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted person, 
and if anyone knows of anything publicly shown at the event regarding 
voiceover accessibility. I can certainly think of some things. Fix the focus 
bug and email would be my number one, and that�s not a new problem.

Mary

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RE: Bluetooth keyboard command question

[Richard Turner]

The vast majority of them work for all keyboards.
My Logitech keyboard doesn't work with the ones that use the FN key, but all 
the rest work fine.
I put together a list which I may need to add one or two keystrokes to that I 
put on my web site.
I have one version in tables and in Excel that has the action, keyboard 
command, and gesture in three columns.
I also have a stand-alone document for each.
www.turner42.com



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: 'Yates, Danney' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard command question

Wayne, I don't know answer to your question, since I use Apple Magic keyboard, 
but want to thank you for sharing the link; will keep this handy.
Have a great day,
Danney

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 3:29 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Bluetooth keyboard command question

Greetings. I found an Apple Support page with VoiceOver commands for the Magic 
Bluetooth Keyboard. Though the page says it is for this specific keyboard, 
would these same commands work for other Bluetooth keyboards? I'm trying to 
find a quick reference for one of my students. For what it's worth, here is the 
link:
https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fiphone%2Fuse-voiceover-with-magic-keyboard-iph6c494dc6%2Fiosdata=02%7C01%7C%7C882bbd6db836494801a908d817797995%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637285157778325009sdata=JGu2zHJPCtkbbQyPQBG5uDfSCV5Pxkj2dixc0lVwaYc%3Dreserved=0

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

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RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[Richard Turner]

>From Blind Bargains today:
#WWDC: VoiceOver Gains New Image Description Capabilities among other Changes
J.J. Meddaugh Jun 22, 2020 
7:25 PM ET


Like just about everything else these days, Apple's worldwide developers 
conference has switched to a virtual format for 2020. But a variety of new 
features have been announced across Apple's line of devices, including some new 
VoiceOver improvements.
While few details have been shared, VoiceOver appears to be gaining several 
features to help navigate apps and web pages which may be lacking proper 
accessibility support. Apple will try to identify controls that are not 
properly labeled, and also provide more verbose descriptions for images, 
including images on websites.
Outside of VoiceOver, Siri claims to be able to answer more questions with 
direct answers, instead of the classic "I can search the web for that" 
response. You can also send audio messages directly from Siri, or send your ETA 
to someone.
Apple grabs one of Android's top features in on-device dictation, useful on an 
airplane or another location where Internet access may be spotty. Speaking of 
Android features, iOS is gaining new ways to organize apps, and enhanced 
support for app widgets.
In messages, you can now pin up to nine conversations to the top of the screen 
for easy access. And the most important feature of all, a new face covering 
option for your Memoji.
There of course is a lot more than this. You can watch the 
keynote or [view a near-complete 
list of new features from 
Apple..'(https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-14-preview/features/) Here are the 
specific features listed under the accessibility heading:

VoiceOver Recognition

On-device intelligence recognizes key elements displayed on your screen to add 
VoiceOver support for app and web experiences that don t have accessibility 
support built in.

VoiceOver Recognition: Image descriptions

VoiceOver reads complete-sentence descriptions of images and photos within apps 
and on the web.

VoiceOver Recognition: Text recognition

VoiceOver speaks the text it identifies within images and photos.

VoiceOver Recognition: Screen recognition

VoiceOver automatically detects interface controls to aid in navigating your 
apps, making them more accessible.

Headphone Accommodations

This new accessibility feature is designed to amplify soft sounds and adjust 
certain frequencies for an individual s hearing, to help music, movies, phone 
calls, and podcasts sound more crisp and clear. Headphone Accommodations also 
supports Transparency mode on AirPods Pro, making quiet voices more audible and 
tuning the sounds of your environment to your hearing needs.
Source: WWDC Keynote


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

I didn’t read anything that said they would force you to organize your apps in 
a particular way. It seems like Apple is giving you more options on how to 
organize your apps and manage your home pages and not taking options away from 
people.

--
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Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

I’m concerned over what they are proposing for app organization: I want to 
organize my apps the way I think they should be organized, rather than how they 
think they should be. I skip page one with the widgets, meaning the rest of my 
apps are on three pages, arranged in folders, with the apps in each being in 
alphabetical order.



On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:01 AM, chalt...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Wow, with an app launcher, being able to place widgets on any screen 
whatsoever, and being able to set my default web browser and email client I’ll 
get some of the things I mis most from Android. I’d think adding captions to 
pictures would also be a useful feature for us blind users. I also like some of 
the new features being added for the Airpod Pros.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: 'Devin Prater' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 8:04 PM
To: 

RE: IOS 14 question

[Richard Turner]

That was the iOS device list,
Here is the page with the iPad OS devices:
https://www.apple.com/ipados/ipados-preview/



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 14 question

What ipads are supported.  I don’t see any ipads in that list?

From: chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 14 question

Sure, from the page at 
https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-14-preview/features/

iOS 14 is compatible with these devices.
Learn more about iPhone
Learn more about iPod touch
iPhone 11
iPhone 11 Pro
iPhone 11 Pro Max
iPhone XS
iPhone XS Max
iPhone XR
iPhone X
iPhone 8
iPhone 8 Plus
iPhone 7
iPhone 7 Plus
iPhone 6s
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone SE (1st generation)
iPhone SE (2nd generation)
iPod touch (7th generation)

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Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Now that ios 14 has been announced, does any one happen to know what devices it 
supports?

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Re: IOS 14 question

[Russ Kiehne]

What ipads are supported.  I don’t see any ipads in that list?

From: chalt...@gmail.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: IOS 14 question

Sure, from the page at https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-14-preview/features/

 

iOS 14 is compatible with these devices.

Learn more about iPhone

Learn more about iPod touch

iPhone 11

iPhone 11 Pro

iPhone 11 Pro Max

iPhone XS

iPhone XS Max

iPhone XR

iPhone X

iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus

iPhone 7

iPhone 7 Plus

iPhone 6s

iPhone 6s Plus

iPhone SE (1st generation)

iPhone SE (2nd generation)

iPod touch (7th generation)

 

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Kiehne
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Now that ios 14 has been announced, does any one happen to know what devices it 
supports?

 

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RE: Bluetooth keyboard command question

['Yates, Danney' via VIPhone]

Wayne, I don't know answer to your question, since I use Apple Magic keyboard, 
but want to thank you for sharing the link; will keep this handy.
Have a great day,
Danney

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 3:29 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Bluetooth keyboard command question

Greetings. I found an Apple Support page with VoiceOver commands for the Magic 
Bluetooth Keyboard. Though the page says it is for this specific keyboard, 
would these same commands work for other Bluetooth keyboards? I'm trying to 
find a quick reference for one of my students. For what it's worth, here is the 
link:
https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fiphone%2Fuse-voiceover-with-magic-keyboard-iph6c494dc6%2Fiosdata=02%7C01%7Cdanney.yates%40ablegeorgia.ga.gov%7C0d5ea33992bc4913c05208d7f0616e3b%7Ce54ad2e331314ed797e3e6e95d089c4e%7C0%7C0%7C637242173565597475sdata=IUcpBJ9KOTZVunObbKZxJ13Ye3MOCQzfWSkUFnDAe80%3Dreserved=0

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RE: IOS 14 question

[chaltain]

Sure, from the page at https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-14-preview/features/

 

iOS 14 is compatible with these devices.

Learn more about iPhone

Learn more about iPod touch

iPhone 11

iPhone 11 Pro

iPhone 11 Pro Max

iPhone XS

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iPhone XR

iPhone X

iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus

iPhone 7

iPhone 7 Plus

iPhone 6s

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iPhone SE (1st generation)

iPhone SE (2nd generation)

iPod touch (7th generation)

 

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Now that ios 14 has been announced, does any one happen to know what devices it 
supports?

 

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IOS 14 question

[Russ Kiehne]

Now that ios 14 has been announced, does any one happen to know what devices it 
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RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[chaltain]

I didn’t read anything that said they would force you to organize your apps in 
a particular way. It seems like Apple is giving you more options on how to 
organize your apps and manage your home pages and not taking options away from 
people.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
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Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

 

I’m concerned over what they are proposing for app organization: I want to 
organize my apps the way I think they should be organized, rather than how they 
think they should be. I skip page one with the widgets, meaning the rest of my 
apps are on three pages, arranged in folders, with the apps in each being in 
alphabetical order.

 

 





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Wow, with an app launcher, being able to place widgets on any screen 
whatsoever, and being able to set my default web browser and email client I’ll 
get some of the things I mis most from Android. I’d think adding captions to 
pictures would also be a useful feature for us blind users. I also like some of 
the new features being added for the Airpod Pros.

 

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From: 'Devin Prater' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 8:04 PM
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Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

 

See this page: iOS features 
 

 

Legends on Twitter tell of enormous Investiture, like AutoMagic panning for 
braille displays, and even more to come. Like Kelsier says, “There’s always 
another secret.” Or something.

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On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely nothing 
about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That’s not 
unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don’t announce. 
I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech articles I have 
read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted person, and if anyone knows 
of anything publicly shown at the event regarding voiceover accessibility. I 
can certainly think of some things. Fix the focus bug and email would be my 
number one, and that’s not a new problem.
Mary

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RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’d suggest not jumping to conclusions,
We only got to see / hear about the new features, I’m sure they have things 
planned for those that don’t want to jump yet in to the change.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
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Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

I’m concerned over what they are proposing for app organization: I want to 
organize my apps the way I think they should be organized, rather than how they 
think they should be. I skip page one with the widgets, meaning the rest of my 
apps are on three pages, arranged in folders, with the apps in each being in 
alphabetical order.




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Wow, with an app launcher, being able to place widgets on any screen 
whatsoever, and being able to set my default web browser and email client I’ll 
get some of the things I mis most from Android. I’d think adding captions to 
pictures would also be a useful feature for us blind users. I also like some of 
the new features being added for the Airpod Pros.

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From: 'Devin Prater' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
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Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

See this page: iOS features

Legends on Twitter tell of enormous Investiture, like AutoMagic panning for 
braille displays, and even more to come. Like Kelsier says, “There’s always 
another secret.” Or something.
Devin Prater
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Https://devinprater.github.io



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In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely nothing 
about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That’s not 
unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don’t announce. 
I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech articles I have 
read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted person, and if anyone knows 
of anything publicly shown at the event regarding voiceover accessibility. I 
can certainly think of some things. Fix the focus bug and email would be my 
number one, and that’s not a new problem.
Mary

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Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[Kathy Brandt]

I’m concerned over what they are proposing for app organization: I want to 
organize my apps the way I think they should be organized, rather than how they 
think they should be. I skip page one with the widgets, meaning the rest of my 
apps are on three pages, arranged in folders, with the apps in each being in 
alphabetical order.



> On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:01 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Wow, with an app launcher, being able to place widgets on any screen 
> whatsoever, and being able to set my default web browser and email client 
> I’ll get some of the things I mis most from Android. I’d think adding 
> captions to pictures would also be a useful feature for us blind users. I 
> also like some of the new features being added for the Airpod Pros.
>  
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>  
> From: 'Devin Prater' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 8:04 PM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur
>  
> See this page: iOS features
>  
> Legends on Twitter tell of enormous Investiture, like AutoMagic panning for 
> braille displays, and even more to come. Like Kelsier says, “There’s always 
> another secret.” Or something.
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> Https://devinprater.github.io
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  
> In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely nothing 
> about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That’s not 
> unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don’t 
> announce. I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech 
> articles I have read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted person, and 
> if anyone knows of anything publicly shown at the event regarding voiceover 
> accessibility. I can certainly think of some things. Fix the focus bug and 
> email would be my number one, and that’s not a new problem.
> Mary
> 
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Re: Braille characters on a Braille display

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi

Yep it's Unicode. It speaks the characters as in the dot numbers but
it doesn't Braille anything at all. It's a shame that you can't have
Braille displayed visually whilst getting it displayed on a display at
the same time.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 6/23/20, Devin Prater  wrote:
> That is Unicode Braille. I don’t think Voiceover prints those, but I’ll test
> tomorrow with my iPhone.
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>> On Jun 22, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Using my computer, there was no hello, until you said after that line.
>> So, if those are graphic characters, no.
>> VoiceOver translates printed characters into braille.
>> If they are an image, no.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>> Edward Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Ben Mustill-Rose
>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 2:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Braille characters on a Braille display
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Does anyone know if it's possible for Voiceover to output Braille
>> characters to a Braille display? Consider this next line as an
>> example:
>> ⠓⠑⠇⠇⠕
>> That's hello in Braille. For me,  Voiceover speaks the Braille dot numbers
>> but if I have a Braille display connected nothing gets Brailled. Does
>> anyone know any way of getting Braille characters to show up on a
>> display?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
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Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

[Bill Gallik]

- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 12.4.7) via Google Mail
I’ve had two dog guides, both from Leader, and they did originally show some 
anxiety durring thunder storms.  In fact, my first dog and I got caught in a 
fast moving thunderstorm on one of our very first walks in Wheaton.  I had 
decided to go to the neighborhood Convenient store about three blocks from 
home..  We were almost there when thunder and rain showers started.  I sat him 
down gently and put my arm around his neck and scratched his ears while softly 
assuring him we were OK.  He settled down and never had an issue with thunder 
again.  But then, I suppose that my temperament of thoroughly enjoying thunder 
storms was readily sensed by Jake.

Holland, my second dog, never quite completely got over the thunderstorm 
anxiety syndrome, although it did diminish significantly after several such 
storms and my reaction.  But, I had brought Jake home in April whereupon we had 
an opportunity to experience a thunderstorm immediately.  Holland came home (to 
Superior) in mid October whence thunderstorms are very rare affairs in northern 
Wisconsin.  So, Holland was with me at least seven months before thunderstorms 
would occur.  I do believe that was a bit too much an upheaval of his calm 
wintry environment.  Still, he was a trooper and carried on with his duties.


- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.”
- Paulo Coelho, Poet-Writer

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No to 6s case. Re: Availability of iPhone SE2020 cases?

[Dave]

Hi, Yes, the 6s cases, will fit the new iPhone SE2020. But that is only in 
size alone.


But the cutout for the camera, will be out of line.

You need a case that says, for the new SE2020, and the iPhone 8. and i think 
for the iPhone 7.


The 6s cases, will only be OK, for the iPhone 6.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: R Van Lant

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:24 AM
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Subject: RE: Availability of iPhone SE2020 cases?

Even my iPhone 6S case fit my new SE.  I was rather surprised, as I didn't 
realize that the 6S was the same size, but it is.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 4:49 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Availability of iPhone SE2020 cases?

In preparing myself for when Telcel (my carrier) restocks the iPHones SE 2nd 
Generation, my sister (who got herself an SE2020 last month), has been 
looking online to get herself and me, a case; however she says that cases 
for iPHones SE2020 aren’t available yet here in Mexico! So between an iPHone 
7 or 8 case, which would be the nearest in terms of camera and other 
controls, that would fit a new sE? Thanks for info.


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (1st Generation) de Telcel

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RE: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

[chaltain]

Wow, with an app launcher, being able to place widgets on any screen 
whatsoever, and being able to set my default web browser and email client I’ll 
get some of the things I mis most from Android. I’d think adding captions to 
pictures would also be a useful feature for us blind users. I also like some of 
the new features being added for the Airpod Pros.

 

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From: 'Devin Prater' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 8:04 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur

 

See this page: iOS features 
 

 

Legends on Twitter tell of enormous Investiture, like AutoMagic panning for 
braille displays, and even more to come. Like Kelsier says, “There’s always 
another secret.” Or something.

Devin Prater

d.pra...@me.com  

Https://devinprater.github.io





On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely nothing 
about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That’s not 
unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don’t announce. 
I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech articles I have 
read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted person, and if anyone knows 
of anything publicly shown at the event regarding voiceover accessibility. I 
can certainly think of some things. Fix the focus bug and email would be my 
number one, and that’s not a new problem.
Mary

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