RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
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Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign  
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>>
>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
>> Ambitions> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>> lsx?web=1>
>>
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There have been rumors for quite some time, but earlier this year they 
apparently showed off something at a tech show in Germany and if you Google 
"When will Sonos release a headset" or something like that you find a lot of 
articles from reputable sources where it was expected this would happen in 
2021, but unless they'll make an announcement in the next 49 minutes it will be 
2022 if at all.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: December 31, 2021 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Sonos headphones, well I’m in to Sonos so deep I would have to purchase a pair.
Are their rumors that Sonos is planning to release a head set?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn’t saying that anyone shouldn’t 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I’ve always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I’m sure I’d be all 
over these headsets. This doesn’t mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I’ve had with myh AirPod Pros though.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I’ll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[​xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Also, this is not French. I put the subject line into Google translate and it 
seems to be Indonesian and it says:

The Track app has been disabled on Muhammad's iPhone

I am pretty sure it's a SPAM/phishing email.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: December 31, 2021 5:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan 
pada Muhammad’s iPhone

Hi, Group.
I don’t know why, Apple started sending me messages in French only.
I called Apple Accessibility yesterday. They wanted me go to icloud.com and to 
account setting. Selected language in Account Settings was English. She said I 
don’t know why this is happening when English is selected in Account settings.
Could someone tell me how to fix it, please?
Secondly,
What is the following French message is about, please? Anything important in it 
that I need to know?
Thanks!

From: Find My 
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 10:29 PM
To: mfa...@outlook.com
Subject: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone


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Re: Transferring from audio to facetime call?

[CHELA Robles]

Good to know, thanks for the tip.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you can, just bring up the screen and hide the keypad if it is on the 
> screen, then on the same screen where you have the hold button, the 
> speakerphone button, the button if you want to add another caller and so on
> find the "Facetime Video" button and tap it. There might be a very small 
> disruption, but basically what happens is that while you are still speaking 
> to the other person they are being notified that you are requesting a 
> Facetime call and they can accept it at which point the regular call ends and 
> the Facetime Video call starts; it's quite seamless and I have done it many 
> times with family and friends.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: December 31, 2021 5:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Transferring from audio to facetime call?
> 
> My understanding is that the only way to do this is if you do an audio 
> FaceTime call and then can switch to a regular video FaceTime call within the 
> FaceTime app not the Phone app which is what it sounds like you’re using.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I am talking on the phone with someone and want to switch to 
>>> facetime, do I have to disconnect the phone call in order to activate 
>>> facetime??
>>> At 05:48 PM 12/31/2021, you wrote:
>>> Ann,
>>> 
>>> Are you referring to a FaceTime audio call or one through the 
>>> switched telephone network?
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/31/21, Ann Byrne  wrote:
 Is there a way to transfer from an audio call to a facetime call 
 without disconnecting and calling back?  I think I have seen it 
 done, but maybe not.
 
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RE: Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, didn't see the message at first which you forwarded. I don't think that 
is a legit message from Apple since the email address after the at symbol is 
@email.apple.com instead just @apple.com, I would call back Apple and ask.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: December 31, 2021 5:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan 
pada Muhammad’s iPhone

Hi, Group.
I don’t know why, Apple started sending me messages in French only.
I called Apple Accessibility yesterday. They wanted me go to icloud.com and to 
account setting. Selected language in Account Settings was English. She said I 
don’t know why this is happening when English is selected in Account settings.
Could someone tell me how to fix it, please?
Secondly,
What is the following French message is about, please? Anything important in it 
that I need to know?
Thanks!

From: Find My 
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 10:29 PM
To: mfa...@outlook.com
Subject: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone


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RE: Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Are you sure they are not just messages which seem to be from Apple but in fact 
are SPAM?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: December 31, 2021 5:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan 
pada Muhammad’s iPhone

Hi, Group.
I don’t know why, Apple started sending me messages in French only.
I called Apple Accessibility yesterday. They wanted me go to icloud.com and to 
account setting. Selected language in Account Settings was English. She said I 
don’t know why this is happening when English is selected in Account settings.
Could someone tell me how to fix it, please?
Secondly,
What is the following French message is about, please? Anything important in it 
that I need to know?
Thanks!

From: Find My mailto:nore...@email.apple.com>>
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To: mfa...@outlook.com
Subject: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone


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RE: Is E-SIM Intact?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I believe you may have to get a new one, but I'm not entirely sure, easiest way 
to find out is to set up the phone and see if you can still get calls.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: December 31, 2021 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is E-SIM Intact?

Hi, Group.
I have reset my iPhone12 to factory default. Should I assume that the E-SIM is 
still intact? Or, it is gone and I have to get reactivated?
Thanks!

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RE: Transferring from audio to facetime call?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, you can, just bring up the screen and hide the keypad if it is on the 
screen, then on the same screen where you have the hold button, the 
speakerphone button, the button if you want to add another caller and so on
find the "Facetime Video" button and tap it. There might be a very small 
disruption, but basically what happens is that while you are still speaking to 
the other person they are being notified that you are requesting a Facetime 
call and they can accept it at which point the regular call ends and the 
Facetime Video call starts; it's quite seamless and I have done it many times 
with family and friends.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: December 31, 2021 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring from audio to facetime call?

My understanding is that the only way to do this is if you do an audio FaceTime 
call and then can switch to a regular video FaceTime call within the FaceTime 
app not the Phone app which is what it sounds like you’re using.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> When I am talking on the phone with someone and want to switch to facetime, 
> do I have to disconnect the phone call in order to activate facetime??
> At 05:48 PM 12/31/2021, you wrote:
>> Ann,
>> 
>> Are you referring to a FaceTime audio call or one through the 
>> switched telephone network?
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/31/21, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>> > Is there a way to transfer from an audio call to a facetime call 
>> > without disconnecting and calling back?  I think I have seen it 
>> > done, but maybe not.
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Andy Baracco]

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it 
passes them by.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet




I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign
in or something.

On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add 
the

headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide
true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the 
Airpods

Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Richard Turner]

First, Mary, The batteries can be replaced when they die; or at least that is 
my understanding.
Second, Joshuah, I'm sure if you got an Apple Card you could pay them off in 
time.
If people think Sonos will come out with a pair of headphones for less; I will 
be surprised if they do and if their batery is driving Wi-Fi and bluetooth, who 
knows what that will look like.
I'm quite happy with my purchase.
But, to each his/her own.



Richard
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly 
greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:30 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> The airpods max are just way to much money.  I've spent $300 on
> headphones before, but that was because I could pay them off in
> payments.  I don't think I could do that with the airpods max.
> 
>> On 12/31/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the
>> same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on
>> batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth
>> speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember
>> the days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for
>> a decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in
>> obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I
>>> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved
>>> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the
>>> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty
>>> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the
>>> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
>>> 
>>> Happy new year everyone
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 
 Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not
 plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
 I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the
 issue of any lag. There isn't one.
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is
 lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
 
 My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell 
>> wrote:
> 
> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
> 
> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of
> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next
> to me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a
> waist of money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the
> most comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I
> mention that the audio quality is amazing?
> 
> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are
> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip
> and it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have
> figured out how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present
> in most “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in
> the slightest.
> 
> They’re worth it in my book.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>> 
>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>> 
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add
>> the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to
>> provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what
>> the Airpods Max dcost.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Joshua Hendrickson]

The airpods max are just way to much money.  I've spent $300 on
headphones before, but that was because I could pay them off in
payments.  I don't think I could do that with the airpods max.

On 12/31/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the
> same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on
> batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth
> speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember
> the days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for
> a decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in
> obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I
>> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved
>> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the
>> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty
>> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the
>> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
>>
>> Happy new year everyone
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not
>>> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
>>> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the
>>> issue of any lag. There isn't one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is
>>> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
>>>
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
>>>
> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell 
> wrote:

 I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.

 The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of
 headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next
 to me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a
 waist of money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the
 most comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I
 mention that the audio quality is amazing?

 Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are
 “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip
 and it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have
 figured out how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present
 in most “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in
 the slightest.

 They’re worth it in my book.

 Ed


>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> wrote:
>
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
> headphones:
>
>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add
> the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to
> provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what
> the Airpods Max dcost.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Mary Otten]

I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the 
same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on 
batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth 
speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember the 
days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for a 
decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in 
obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I 
> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved 
> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the 
> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty 
> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the 
> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
> 
> Happy new year everyone 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not 
>> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
>> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue 
>> of any lag. There isn't one.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is 
>> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
 On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
>>> 
>>> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of 
>>> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to 
>>> me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of 
>>> money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most 
>>> comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention 
>>> that the audio quality is amazing? 
>>> 
>>> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are 
>>> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and 
>>> it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out 
>>> how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most 
>>> “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the 
>>> slightest.
>>> 
>>> They’re worth it in my book.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> 
> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
 connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
 headphones:
 
  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
 
 So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
 headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
 true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
 Max dcost.
 
 
 Best regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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Re: Transferring from audio to facetime call?

[CHELA Robles]

My understanding is that the only way to do this is if you do an audio FaceTime 
call and then can switch to a regular video FaceTime call within the FaceTime 
app not the Phone app which is what it sounds like you’re using.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> When I am talking on the phone with someone and want to switch to facetime, 
> do I have to disconnect the phone call in order to activate facetime??
> At 05:48 PM 12/31/2021, you wrote:
>> Ann,
>> 
>> Are you referring to a FaceTime audio call or one through the switched
>> telephone network?
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/31/21, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>> > Is there a way to transfer from an audio call to a facetime call
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Re: Transferring from audio to facetime call?

[Ann Byrne]

When I am talking on the phone with someone and want to switch to 
facetime, do I have to disconnect the phone call in order to activate 
facetime??

At 05:48 PM 12/31/2021, you wrote:

Ann,

Are you referring to a FaceTime audio call or one through the switched
telephone network?

Kelly




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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Lynda Ingraham]

I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I think 
they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved the 
sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the AirPod 
max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty flat so as a 
side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the sounds great and now 
Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.

Happy new year everyone 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not 
> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue 
> of any lag. There isn't one.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is 
> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
> 
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> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
>> 
>> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of 
>> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to 
>> me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of 
>> money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most 
>> comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that 
>> the audio quality is amazing? 
>> 
>> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are 
>> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and 
>> it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out 
>> how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most 
>> “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the 
>> slightest.
>> 
>> They’re worth it in my book.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>>> 
>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
>>> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
>>> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
>>> Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
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Re: Transferring from audio to facetime call?

[Kelly Pierce]

Ann,

Are you referring to a FaceTime audio call or one through the switched
telephone network?

Kelly




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Re: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

[Richard Turner]

I did a demo of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset on my web site.
It is under the demos and walk-through page.

 
http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html



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> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:53 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> I like the aftershox for GPS and such, but I’ve never cared for them for 
> music.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: December 31, 2021 2:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mmmat 
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth Headset recommendation
>  
> I too would recommend Aftershokz. The audio is fine for voice, but some may 
> find them a bit lacking for high fidelity sound. I haven’t gotten any 
> complaints from the people I call, so I assume the audio on their end is 
> adequate.
>  
> --
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
> Curralejo
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 10:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mmmat 
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth Headset recommendation
>  
> I would highly recommend the aftershocks opencom headphones which have an 
> excellent microphone and decent enough sound.
>  
> On January 1, 2022 03:49:57 "mmmat"  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the recommendation.  I will look into this model.
>  
> Mario
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael McKay
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 9:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset recommendation
>  
> I use the Aftershokz Bluetooth bone conduction wireless headset. I have an 
> iPhone 7 Plus, and it pairs with it very very well. Hope this helps.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 31, 2021, at 04:31, mmmat  wrote:
> 
> ?
> I am in the market for a Bluetooth  earbud headset for my iPhone.  I am 
> interested in some recommendation based on  personal experience. 
>  
> I am looking for a set of earbuds that is  around the neck style, easy to 
> use, has very good battery life, has decent sounds quality and can be used 
> for making and receiving phone calls.  I looked at the reviews of headsets on 
> Amazon and I would like to get the purchase right the first time.
>  
> I had a set of Beats and was not impressed with the battery life.  It seamed 
> that it would only last a few hours and it was more of a pain in the neck 
> then it was worth.  I had a set of LG 780, that had great battery life, but 
> device was not usable making and receiving phone calls.  I have tried Air 
> Buds, but the battery life is too short and I am concerned about misplacing 
> them to easily.
>  
> Thanks in advance,
> Mario
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Richard Turner]

Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not plan 
to look for any other headset for music/movies.
I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue of 
any lag. There isn't one.




Richard
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(Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
> 
> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of headphones 
> that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to me. I 
> personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of money, 
> they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most comfortable pair 
> of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that the audio quality 
> is amazing? 
> 
> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are “wireless”, 
> Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and it makes for 
> a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out how to get rid 
> of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most “wireless” headphones. 
> Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the slightest.
> 
> They’re worth it in my book.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
>> headphones:
>> 
>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>> 
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
>> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
>> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
>> Max dcost.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
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RE: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

[chrisjudge1967]

I like the aftershox for GPS and such, but I’ve never cared for them for music.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 31, 2021 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mmmat 
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

 

I too would recommend Aftershokz. The audio is fine for voice, but some may 
find them a bit lacking for high fidelity sound. I haven’t gotten any 
complaints from the people I call, so I assume the audio on their end is 
adequate.

 

--

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Marco Curralejo
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  ; mmmat 
mailto:mmm...@comcast.net> >
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

 

I would highly recommend the aftershocks opencom headphones which have an 
excellent microphone and decent enough sound.

 

On January 1, 2022 03:49:57 "mmmat" <  
mmm...@comcast.net> wrote:

Thanks for the recommendation.  I will look into this model.

 

Mario 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Michael McKay
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 9:04 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

 

I use the Aftershokz Bluetooth bone conduction wireless headset. I have an 
iPhone 7 Plus, and it pairs with it very very well. Hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 31, 2021, at 04:31, mmmat <  
mmm...@comcast.net> wrote:

?

I am in the market for a Bluetooth  earbud headset for my iPhone.  I am 
interested in some recommendation based on  personal experience.  

 

I am looking for a set of earbuds that is  around the neck style, easy to use, 
has very good battery life, has decent sounds quality and can be used for 
making and receiving phone calls.  I looked at the reviews of headsets on 
Amazon and I would like to get the purchase right the first time.

 

I had a set of Beats and was not impressed with the battery life.  It seamed 
that it would only last a few hours and it was more of a pain in the neck then 
it was worth.  I had a set of LG 780, that had great battery life, but device 
was not usable making and receiving phone calls.  I have tried Air Buds, but 
the battery life is too short and I am concerned about misplacing them to 
easily.

 

Thanks in advance,

Mario 

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Ed Worrell]

I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.

The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of headphones 
that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to me. I 
personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of money, 
they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most comfortable pair of 
headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that the audio quality is 
amazing? 

Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are “wireless”, 
Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and it makes for a 
very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out how to get rid of 
the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most “wireless” headphones. 
Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the slightest.

They’re worth it in my book.

Ed


> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
> is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:
>  
>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>  
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
> Max dcost.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

[Christopher Chaltain]

I too would recommend Aftershokz. The audio is fine for voice, but some may 
find them a bit lacking for high fidelity sound. I haven't gotten any 
complaints from the people I call, so I assume the audio on their end is 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mmmat 
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

I would highly recommend the aftershocks opencom headphones which have an 
excellent microphone and decent enough sound.


On January 1, 2022 03:49:57 "mmmat" 
mailto:mmm...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Thanks for the recommendation.  I will look into this model.

Mario


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

I use the Aftershokz Bluetooth bone conduction wireless headset. I have an 
iPhone 7 Plus, and it pairs with it very very well. Hope this helps.
Sent from my iPhone



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mailto:mmm...@comcast.net>> wrote:
?
I am in the market for a Bluetooth  earbud headset for my iPhone.  I am 
interested in some recommendation based on  personal experience.

I am looking for a set of earbuds that is  around the neck style, easy to use, 
has very good battery life, has decent sounds quality and can be used for 
making and receiving phone calls.  I looked at the reviews of headsets on 
Amazon and I would like to get the purchase right the first time.

I had a set of Beats and was not impressed with the battery life.  It seamed 
that it would only last a few hours and it was more of a pain in the neck then 
it was worth.  I had a set of LG 780, that had great battery life, but device 
was not usable making and receiving phone calls.  I have tried Air Buds, but 
the battery life is too short and I am concerned about misplacing them to 
easily.

Thanks in advance,
Mario
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Re: Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

[CHELA Robles]

Did you accidentally set your region language to French? That’s the only thing 
I can think of. You can reset that just search for a region language or 
something to the effect of that and you should be able to reset the language to 
English.
So basically what you want to go do is go to settings general

Then scroll down and tap or double tap in our case language and region, double 
tap device language, here you will see a list of languages select English and 
then confirm it and then all should be good. Good luck let us know how it goes. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 9:42 AM, doug parisian  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well gosh darn, you must be Canadian too. I get all messages in both French 
> and English from amazon.
> 
> At least they don't assume that all Canadians say "good day eh."
> 
> 
> 
> On 2021-12-31 7:05 a.m., Fazil M. wrote:
>> Hi, Group.
>> I don’t know why, Apple started sending me messages in French only.
>> I called Apple Accessibility yesterday. They wanted me go to icloud.com and 
>> to account setting. Selected language in Account Settings was English. She 
>> said I don’t know why this is happening when English is selected in Account 
>> settings.
>> Could someone tell me how to fix it, please?
>> Secondly,
>> What is the following French message is about, please? Anything important in 
>> it that I need to know?
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> From: Find My  
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 10:29 PM
>> To: mfa...@outlook.com
>> Subject: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone
>> Jika app Lacak dinonaktifkan, perangkat ini tidak lagi dapat ditemukan, 
>> mengaktifkan Mode Hilang, atau menghapus konten dari jarak jauh menggunakan 
>> icloud.com/find atau app Lacak.
>> Selain itu, ID Apple dan kata sandi Anda tidak akan lagi diperlukan oleh 
>> seseorang untuk menghapus, mengaktifkan kembali, dan menggunakan iPhone Anda.
>> 
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>> ID Apple | Dukungan | Syarat dan Ketentuan | Kebijakan Privasi 
>> Hak Cipta © 2021 Apple Canada Inc., 120 Bremner Blvd., suite 1600, Toronto 
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Re: Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

[doug parisian]

Well gosh darn, you must be Canadian too. I get all messages in both 
French and English from amazon.


At least they don't assume that all Canadians say "good day eh."


On 2021-12-31 7:05 a.m., Fazil M. wrote:


Hi, Group.

I don’t know why, Apple started sending me messages in French only.

I called Apple Accessibility yesterday. They wanted me go to 
icloud.com and to account setting. Selected language in Account 
Settings was English. She said I don’t know why this is happening when 
English is selected in Account settings.


Could someone tell me how to fix it, please?

Secondly,

What is the following French message is about, please? Anything 
important in it that I need to know?


Thanks!

*From:*Find My 
*Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 10:29 PM
*To:* mfa...@outlook.com
*Subject:* App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone


Image removed by sender.

App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

Jika app Lacak dinonaktifkan, perangkat ini tidak lagi dapat 
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jauh menggunakan icloud.com/find  atau 
app Lacak.


Selain itu, ID Apple dan kata sandi Anda tidak akan lagi diperlukan 
oleh seseorang untuk menghapus, mengaktifkan kembali, dan menggunakan 
iPhone Anda.


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RE: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

[Marco Curralejo]

I would highly recommend the aftershocks opencom headphones which have an 
excellent microphone and decent enough sound.


On January 1, 2022 03:49:57 "mmmat"  wrote:

Thanks for the recommendation.  I will look into this model.

Mario


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

I use the Aftershokz Bluetooth bone conduction wireless headset. I have an 
iPhone 7 Plus, and it pairs with it very very well. Hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 31, 2021, at 04:31, mmmat  wrote:

I am in the market for a Bluetooth  earbud headset for my iPhone.  I am 
interested in some recommendation based on  personal experience.


I am looking for a set of earbuds that is  around the neck style, easy to 
use, has very good battery life, has decent sounds quality and can be used 
for making and receiving phone calls.  I looked at the reviews of headsets 
on Amazon and I would like to get the purchase right the first time.


I had a set of Beats and was not impressed with the battery life.  It 
seamed that it would only last a few hours and it was more of a pain in the 
neck then it was worth.  I had a set of LG 780, that had great battery 
life, but device was not usable making and receiving phone calls.  I have 
tried Air Buds, but the battery life is too short and I am concerned about 
misplacing them to easily.


Thanks in advance,
Mario
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[chrisjudge1967]

Sonos headphones, well I’m in to Sonos so deep I would have to purchase a pair.

Are their rumors that Sonos is planning to release a head set?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

 

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn’t saying that anyone shouldn’t 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I’ve always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I’m sure I’d be all 
over these headsets. This doesn’t mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I’ve had with myh AirPod Pros though.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

 

Christopher,

 

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

 

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames 

But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,

Depending on the price,

I’ll go there without waiting.

 

Sonos are an audio company 

Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

 

My sound system within my house is sonos,

Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

 

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

 

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

 

 Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

 

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

[mmmat]

Thanks for the recommendation.  I will look into this model.

 

Mario 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
McKay
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

 

I use the Aftershokz Bluetooth bone conduction wireless headset. I have an 
iPhone 7 Plus, and it pairs with it very very well. Hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 31, 2021, at 04:31, mmmat mailto:mmm...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I am in the market for a Bluetooth  earbud headset for my iPhone.  I am 
interested in some recommendation based on  personal experience.  

 

I am looking for a set of earbuds that is  around the neck style, easy to use, 
has very good battery life, has decent sounds quality and can be used for 
making and receiving phone calls.  I looked at the reviews of headsets on 
Amazon and I would like to get the purchase right the first time.

 

I had a set of Beats and was not impressed with the battery life.  It seamed 
that it would only last a few hours and it was more of a pain in the neck then 
it was worth.  I had a set of LG 780, that had great battery life, but device 
was not usable making and receiving phone calls.  I have tried Air Buds, but 
the battery life is too short and I am concerned about misplacing them to 
easily.

 

Thanks in advance,

Mario 

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Transferring from audio to facetime call?

[Ann Byrne]

Is there a way to transfer from an audio call to a facetime call 
without disconnecting and calling back?  I think I have seen it done, 
but maybe not.


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Is E-SIM Intact?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I have reset my iPhone12 to factory default. Should I assume that the E-SIM
is still intact? Or, it is gone and I have to get reactivated?

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Re: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2

[Ann Byrne]

Apple says they are working on the problem.  It only happens with VoiceOver.
At 12:39 AM 12/31/2021, you wrote:

The thing I would do for sure, is let Apple know that there is an issue with
this and it will take more than one person telling them this to get them to
look in to it.

Kay Malmquist
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great in whatever they want to do.
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- Original Message -
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 8:19 PM
Subject: RE: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2


Yeah it's an issue with the current watch os version,

So if you get to the right end of the page and then flick down if you're on
page 3 etc,

And hold your finger at that page 2 or 1 junction point,
For a second or so it should kind of jump in to the page / level you want,

But the one I've started doing is using hey siri to pause or end my workouts
As it's easier to do with this touch screen issue,
Even though now I've figured out the way around the touch screen troubles.

Hey siri pause workout
And hey siri restart workout
Work fine,
 Not everyone likes it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 3:14 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2

I can move from screen to screen, but the move doesn't stay.  Screen
2 becomes screen 3 when I flick left for the information that should be
there.  Instead, it says 'more', and tapping on 'more' doesn't do anything.
At 06:58 PM 12/30/2021, you wrote:
>Does a two finger flick left and right move you between the three pages
>of the workout screen? Also, at the bottom of the screen there should
>be a control that you can flick up or down to move from screen to
>screen.
>
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>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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>Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 6:38 PM
>To: viPhone list 
>Subject: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2
>
>On my watch since the latest update I can't get to the information on
>the second workout screen.  It says screen 2, and when I flick it just
>says 'more', or 'screen 3'.  Our trainer wants heart rate numbers which
>used to live on screen 2, but they are no longer there.
>
>Anyone know a good way to get at the screen with workout time,
>calories, and heart rate?
>
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Re: Bluetooth Headset recommendation

[Michael McKay]

I use the Aftershokz Bluetooth bone conduction wireless headset. I have an 
iPhone 7 Plus, and it pairs with it very very well. Hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 04:31, mmmat  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am in the market for a Bluetooth  earbud headset for my iPhone.  I am 
> interested in some recommendation based on  personal experience. 
>  
> I am looking for a set of earbuds that is  around the neck style, easy to 
> use, has very good battery life, has decent sounds quality and can be used 
> for making and receiving phone calls.  I looked at the reviews of headsets on 
> Amazon and I would like to get the purchase right the first time.
>  
> I had a set of Beats and was not impressed with the battery life.  It seamed 
> that it would only last a few hours and it was more of a pain in the neck 
> then it was worth.  I had a set of LG 780, that had great battery life, but 
> device was not usable making and receiving phone calls.  I have tried Air 
> Buds, but the battery life is too short and I am concerned about misplacing 
> them to easily.
>  
> Thanks in advance,
> Mario
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

So are there some comparable options that wouldn't be a complete waste of money?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 6:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mich verrier 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money in 
my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.


On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier" 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn't read the 
artickle. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon]Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn't saying that anyone shouldn't 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I've always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I'm sure I'd be all 
over these headsets. This doesn't mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I've had with myh AirPod Pros though.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I've got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I'll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there's nothing wrong with waiting, and I'm sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn't gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I'd been without my AirPod Pros. I'm not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I'm just saying there's also a cost for waiting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I don’t know why, Apple started sending me messages in French only.

I called Apple Accessibility yesterday. They wanted me go to icloud.com and to 
account setting. Selected language in Account Settings was English. She said I 
don’t know why this is happening when English is selected in Account settings.

Could someone tell me how to fix it, please?

Secondly,

What is the following French message is about, please? Anything important in it 
that I need to know?

Thanks!

 

From: Find My  
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 10:29 PM
To: mfa...@outlook.com
Subject: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

 



 






App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone 


Jika app Lacak dinonaktifkan, perangkat ini tidak lagi dapat ditemukan, 
mengaktifkan Mode Hilang, atau menghapus konten dari jarak jauh menggunakan  
 icloud.com/find atau app Lacak. 


Selain itu, ID Apple dan kata sandi Anda tidak akan lagi diperlukan oleh 
seseorang untuk menghapus, mengaktifkan kembali, dan menggunakan iPhone Anda. 






iCloud merupakan layanan yang disediakan Apple. 
ID Apple   | Dukungan  
 | Syarat dan Ketentuan  
 | Kebijakan Privasi  
 
Hak Cipta © 2021 Apple Canada Inc., 120 Bremner Blvd., suite 1600, Toronto ON 
M5J 0A8, Canada. Hak cipta dilindungi undang‑undang. 



 

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Marco Curralejo]

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money 
in my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.


On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier"  wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? 
Mycrosoft wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t 
read the artickle. From Mich.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:


Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
Max dcost.



Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[mich verrier]

Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t read the 
artickle. From Mich.

 

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Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
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Max or at least not yet

 

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

 

 

 Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

 

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Simon A Fogarty]

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I’ll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[​xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

Obviously there's nothing wrong with waiting, and I'm sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn't gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I'd been without my AirPod Pros. I'm not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I'm just saying there's also a cost for waiting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign
in or something.

On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
> headphones:
>
> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
> Ambitions
>
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the
> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide
> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods
> Max dcost.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Bluetooth Headset recommendation

[mmmat]

I am in the market for a Bluetooth  earbud headset for my iPhone.  I am 
interested in some recommendation based on  personal experience.  

 

I am looking for a set of earbuds that is  around the neck style, easy to use, 
has very good battery life, has decent sounds quality and can be used for 
making and receiving phone calls.  I looked at the reviews of headsets on 
Amazon and I would like to get the purchase right the first time.

 

I had a set of Beats and was not impressed with the battery life.  It seamed 
that it would only last a few hours and it was more of a pain in the neck then 
it was worth.  I had a set of LG 780, that had great battery life, but device 
was not usable making and receiving phone calls.  I have tried Air Buds, but 
the battery life is too short and I am concerned about misplacing them to 
easily.

 

Thanks in advance,

Mario 

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RE: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kay,

I did this when I got my series 7 and found the issue still existed 

 It was there on my apple watch series 4 with watch os 7 as well,
So it doesn't look like it's on the big issues list.


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Malmquist
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 7:39 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2

The thing I would do for sure, is let Apple know that there is an issue with 
this and it will take more than one person telling them this to get them to 
look in to it.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be great 
in whatever they want to do.
Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player


- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 8:19 PM
Subject: RE: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2


Yeah it's an issue with the current watch os version,

So if you get to the right end of the page and then flick down if you're on 
page 3 etc,

And hold your finger at that page 2 or 1 junction point,
For a second or so it should kind of jump in to the page / level you want,

But the one I've started doing is using hey siri to pause or end my workouts
As it's easier to do with this touch screen issue,
Even though now I've figured out the way around the touch screen troubles.

Hey siri pause workout
And hey siri restart workout
Work fine,
 Not everyone likes it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann 
Byrne
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 3:14 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2

I can move from screen to screen, but the move doesn't stay.  Screen
2 becomes screen 3 when I flick left for the information that should be 
there.  Instead, it says 'more', and tapping on 'more' doesn't do anything.
At 06:58 PM 12/30/2021, you wrote:
>Does a two finger flick left and right move you between the three pages
>of the workout screen? Also, at the bottom of the screen there should
>be a control that you can flick up or down to move from screen to
>screen.
>
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>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>Ann Byrne
>Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 6:38 PM
>To: viPhone list 
>Subject: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2
>
>On my watch since the latest update I can't get to the information on
>the second workout screen.  It says screen 2, and when I flick it just
>says 'more', or 'screen 3'.  Our trainer wants heart rate numbers which
>used to live on screen 2, but they are no longer there.
>
>Anyone know a good way to get at the screen with workout time,
>calories, and heart rate?
>
>Thx,
>
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