Overcast shortcut question

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I'm taking my first baby steps into creating shortcuts.  I listened to an 
AppleVis podcast by Thomas on the basics.  From the Siri tones, it was obvious 
that this was a bit dated, probably from IOS 16.  Nevertheless, the demo he did 
was creating a shortcut from within Overcast to play the next AppleVis podcast. 
 When I go into Settings in Overcast, I do not see the option for shortcuts.  
Has anyone created such a shortcut?  I'm wondering if Thomas has overcast 
premium and the shortcut option is only available there or if the whole process 
for shortcuts has changed enough since he created the podcast that I have to go 
about it another way. I'm making my way through  other shortcut tutorials, but 
this one seemed like an easy win for my first attempt.

Robin on iPhone SE 2020 with latest IOS





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RE: workout interval timer

[R Van Lant]

The one I have used is below.   It will do what you want and I found it 
accessible, last time I did it.  It came recommended by my personal trainer at  
the time.

Tabata Timer & HIIT Timer" - Tabata Stopwatch Pro.  

That is the long name shown when I search for my app in the app store..  I just 
entered Tabata in the search field.

Robin


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Subject: workout interval timer

Hi,
I am looking for an accessible workout interval timer for both my iPhone and 
apple watch.

I downloaded interval timer++, but can't figure out how to change the workout 
settings in terms of length of work session and rest session.
Those values don't appear to be editable at least when I try tapping them.

I want to have a timer for some HIIT workouts but want to be able to customize 
the lengths of work and rest plus the number of repetitions.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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RE: Webex calling app on iPhone

[R Van Lant]

We have really strict security on using personal phones to access work calls, 
emails, etc. For work and use VPN to access work apps on our phone. Forwarding 
calls isblocked and against policy, so I’m not sure if a couple of the ideas 
suggested here would work or be against policy.  I’ll probably just download 
the WebEx app and try this option.  In my experience with desktop applications, 
Cisco says that things are accessible, but I don’t find them to be easy to use. 
 Hopefully the Webex phone app and the ability to use touch navigation on a 
phone will make it work.  I’ll let the list know what I find.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
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Subject: Re: Webex calling app on iPhone

Hi Robin, so I'm guessing that the option offers another call forwarding option 
that is definitely great. Because there are other options that you and your 
manager could use, which would allow you to see color ID. I would recommend 
opening a Gmail account and setting up a Google voice number. Then you could 
tell the calls to. Go to that number instead. And the calls would be routed 
through that Google voice number. I wonder if that would work.
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On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:50 AM, R Van Lant 
mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:

At work, we use Webex softphones on our laptops.  They have rolled out ability 
for us to request using a Webex app on our phones so we can make an receive 
work calls on our mobile phones as if we were at our laptops.   I’m wondering 
if anyone has used this app to know how accessible it is with Voiceover.I 
can select another option to have calls just forward to my cell phone and not 
use the Webex app, but my manager has this and says there is no way to know if 
the call is a personal one or work related and there is no caller ID, so she 
ends up answering all calls.  Using the Webex app would provide better 
separation between work and personal and allow me to just log out when I don’t 
want to get work calls, but it may be cumbersome to get to calls quickly with 
voiceover.

Robin on iPhone SE 2020 running latest IOS




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Webex calling app on iPhone

[R Van Lant]

At work, we use Webex softphones on our laptops.  They have rolled out ability 
for us to request using a Webex app on our phones so we can make an receive 
work calls on our mobile phones as if we were at our laptops.   I'm wondering 
if anyone has used this app to know how accessible it is with Voiceover.I 
can select another option to have calls just forward to my cell phone and not 
use the Webex app, but my manager has this and says there is no way to know if 
the call is a personal one or work related and there is no caller ID, so she 
ends up answering all calls.  Using the Webex app would provide better 
separation between work and personal and allow me to just log out when I don't 
want to get work calls, but it may be cumbersome to get to calls quickly with 
voiceover.

Robin on iPhone SE 2020 running latest IOS



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RE: to blind parents

[R Van Lant]

I granted my kids access to it for their Google profiles, which they mainly use 
on their Chromebooks.  Have not tried it on my phone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
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Subject: to blind parents

anyone successfully using Youtube kids?
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RE: charging device - does this exist?

[R Van Lant]

Thanks all.  I’ll look into these options.  Might be nice to have one with a 
variety of connection cords for travel.  I had a keychain version of this once 
and it was nice not to have to carry all my cords with me—until the connection 
I used the most broke. 




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Tomasi
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: charging device - does this exist?

Yes, this does exist and they actually call it a hub. I like Anker brand and 
have several of them. Very reliable. Mine have a plug that go into the AC 
outlet, then plugging into a hub with 5 or moreUSB ports.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
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On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Here is the description from Amazon of the one I bought a few months ago and 
love it!  It works fine on my Dell Laptop and with any and all USB A plugs I 
have connected for charging or data.  I’ll explain more after the description 
and then I will give the link.

Amazon.com: Anker 10 Port 60W Data Hub with 7 USB 3.0 Ports and 3 PowerIQ 
Charging Ports for MacBook, Mac Pro/Mini, iMac, XPS, Surface Pro, iPhone 7, 6s
Plus, iPad Air 2, Galaxy Series, Mobile HDD, and More : Electronics

It is less than 2 inches wide, and less than 6 inches long.
It plugs into the wall and has a USB-A cord that is very short for plugging 
into your computer if you want to plug in accessories to connect to your 
computer.

The three ports farthest from the cord that goes to the wall are for data 
transfer only, and don’t charge.
But the first 7 from that Wall cord both handle data and charging.
I have my external CD Rom plugged in, my usb headset, usb speakers and my USB 
dongle for my keyboard and more.
They also make one with a USBC plug to the computer and USBC ports, but I have 
mostly the older USB-A devices.
Here is the Amazon link:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VDVCQ84/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

HTH,

Richard, USA
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: charging device - does this exist?

Hi,
I typically charge my iPhones, battery packs,  and such with a single cable 
plugged into a block plugged into the extension cord or directly into the 
outlet.  What I’d ideally  like is a sort of USB extension  cord where I can 
plug one end into a hard to reach outlet, then have a hub of USB ports where I 
can plug in several devices, rather than managing a number of those bulky 
blocks and an extension cord.   Does this kind of thing exist and what would it 
be called for an Amazon or Walmart search?  Any considerations to keep in mind 
as I’m selecting one?  I feared that if I searched for “USB hub”, I’d end up 
with the kind that is used to plug a bunch of peripherals into a computer and I 
don’t think that is the right thing. I need the hub to plug into AC power to 
charge my devices.

TIA,
Robin
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charging device - does this exist?

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I typically charge my iPhones, battery packs,  and such with a single cable 
plugged into a block plugged into the extension cord or directly into the 
outlet.  What I'd ideally  like is a sort of USB extension  cord where I can 
plug one end into a hard to reach outlet, then have a hub of USB ports where I 
can plug in several devices, rather than managing a number of those bulky 
blocks and an extension cord.   Does this kind of thing exist and what would it 
be called for an Amazon or Walmart search?  Any considerations to keep in mind 
as I'm selecting one?  I feared that if I searched for "USB hub", I'd end up 
with the kind that is used to plug a bunch of peripherals into a computer and I 
don't think that is the right thing. I need the hub to plug into AC power to 
charge my devices.

TIA,
Robin

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RE: BARD app - can't change tone setting

[R Van Lant]

Glad to know I can change it in Settings.  Hadn't even thought of that.



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app - can't change tone setting

Hi.  This is a known bug in the BARD app since the release of Ios 17.  I wrote 
them back in September and they were able to reliable reproduce it on several 
iDevices.  I think we'll have to wait for an update to the BARD app to fix the 
issue.


In the meantime, going to settings and adjusting the tone from there is the 
only way to do it.

Lisa Belville
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On 12/11/2023 3:20 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
> I just discovered that I can only change the tone via settings. Double 
> tapping the speed button does nothing at all.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: BARD app - can't change tone setting
>
>
> You should be able to change to tone just fine.  If you can't change 
> the tone with the speed button which should work, then go into 
> settings and change it that way.  Again, I'm not having the problem 
> you are having.
>
> On 12/10/23, R Van Lant  wrote:
>> I'm on the latest IOS and BARD app. I cannot get the speed button to 
>> change to tone so that I can alter the treble and base mix.  I think 
>> I recall someone having a similar issue a while ago, but thought it 
>> would have been fixed by now.  Are others having this issue?
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BARD app - can't change tone setting

[R Van Lant]

I'm on the latest IOS and BARD app. I cannot get the speed button to change to 
tone so that I can alter the treble and base mix.  I think I recall someone 
having a similar issue a while ago, but thought it would have been fixed by 
now.  Are others having this issue?


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hearing aids and iPhone

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I am plunging into the world of hearing aids.  While it's mostly because I have 
difficulty with quiet voices and loud environments, the guy who will set up my 
aids did tell me they can connect to my phone. I'm assuming most sighted people 
only connect theirs when listening to a book or music; that is what the guy 
made it sound like.  I'm trying to get my head around  what that is like for 
voice over users.  Do you leave hearing aids always connected to the phone?   
Sometimes I'm on my phone and want to show my sighted family something.  Would 
I have to turn off the hearing aid connection to let them hear the audio from 
the phone?  They guy told me I'd have 4 to 5 programs set for different 
contexts.  Any recommendations of things I should ask when I go in to have the 
programs set up for the aids?

Thanks in advance.

Robin

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RE: finding my groups in Facebook

[R Van Lant]

Click the Facebook Menu tab, which is the one at the far right of the buttons 
along the bottom.  I then click the “Top Shortcuts button and can find the 
“Groups” button there. As I tested this just now, I also see a Groups button 
just below my “Top Shortcuts” button.  Sometimes I think I have had to click 
the “All shortcuts” option to find groups, but that could have been user error. 
 Right now, it’s looking really simple to find groups.  I’m on the most current 
FB version.

Robin

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MAY
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I want to promote a fundraising event but suddenly I can’t find the list of the 
groups I am subscribed to in Fcebook; where do I find these?
Alison

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RE: Is the Outlook app broken?

[R Van Lant]

 I am not having this issue.  I'm on an iPhone SE 2020 running Outlook app 
version 4.2332.0.   I can open a message an find the back button, which takes 
me back to the inbox. 

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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 10:12 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Is the Outlook app broken?

Hi,
I have an iPhone 13 running the most recent updates using voiceover and I am 
trying to work with the Outlook app on my phone. It is letting me compose 
messages and if I am in a message and use the rotor to get to the edit field 
it’s letting me reply. However, when I try and open messages, it opens them but 
when I hit the back button, it will not take me back to my inbox and it doesn’t 
always show that the message has been read. Did they break some kind of 
accessibility or am I doing something wrong? I am a full-time VoiceOver user.
Dacia. 

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RE: advice for copying book on audio CD to my phone via iTunes

[R Van Lant]

Joshua,
Would you use Windows Media Player to put in on the computer first?  I can give 
this a try today. It's been several years since I've attempted to do anything 
with burning CDs.



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Subject: Re: advice for copying book on audio CD to my phone via iTunes

I'd first recommend that you burn your CD to the computer.  Then you'll want to 
zip up that newly burned CD then, you can use iTunes to put that cd on your 
iPhone.

On 9/3/23, R Van Lant  wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a book of prayers on audio CD.  I'm thinking I'd like to use 
> iTunes on my Windows laptop to move a copy of it to my phone for 
> easier access.  I have never used iTuens. I've read instructions for 
> using iTunes to copy a music CD.  Is there any advice or best 
> practices for doing this with an audio book?  Is it as simple as 
> following the steps for a music CD to load each CD in sequence into 
> iTunes?  I'm not sure how the files will be named and if they'd land in order.
>
> TIAA,
> Robin
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advice for copying book on audio CD to my phone via iTunes

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I have a book of prayers on audio CD.  I'm thinking I'd like to use iTunes on 
my Windows laptop to move a copy of it to my phone for easier access.  I have 
never used iTuens. I've read instructions for using iTunes to copy a music CD.  
Is there any advice or best practices for doing this with an audio book?  Is it 
as simple as following the steps for a music CD to load each CD in sequence 
into iTunes?  I'm not sure how the files will be named and if they'd land in 
order.

TIAA,
Robin

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RE: kindle app on iphone not showing some books right

[R Van Lant]

I saw a thread on this on a friends Facebook page.  Several people reported 
having the same issue from a very recent update to Kindle.  One low vision 
person said it seemed to be merging the word at the end of one line with the 
word at the beginning of the next, even though everything looked correct 
visually.   I  told the friend who posted the question to call Amazon 
Accessibility, so more calls on this would be good.




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Subject: kindle app on iphone not showing some books right

Hi All,

I have a weird issue.  I just downloaded a book from kindle unlimited  and a 
lot of the words are merged together, no spaces between like this: the monster 
ranafter the player, and theplayer wasn’t able to keep away from themonster.

When I load the same book on my kindle for pc, on windows, and it reads just 
fine.

I’ve tried restarting my phone, I’e reinstalled the app, but no luck.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Best,

Juan
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RE: My Favorite KINDLE APP FEATURE AND A BOOK RECOMMENDATION

[R Van Lant]

Don’t you have to buy both the audible and Kindle versions to have this work?  
I’ve assumed that was the only way to switch like this.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 11:13 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: My Favorite KINDLE APP FEATURE AND A BOOK RECOMMENDATION


Hello All,

I think I’ve mentioned this in a previous post but one aspect of Kindle books 
that I have been using more and more, is the feature to seamlessly switch 
between the live narration of a title and the text of that same title, directly 
from within the Kindle app.

If you have not yet explored this feature of the Kindle app, give it a try.  I 
think you will be pleased.

I recently started reading one of Stephen King’s latest novels called Fairy 
Tale.  This is not a horror story.  If anything, it is a fairy tale for adults.

I strongly recommend that you give this book a try because never in my adult 
life have I ever come across a mainstream story in which people with real-life 
disabilities are portrayed in such heroic and equal measure as their 
non-disabled counterparts.

I am about 50% through the story.  Up to this point, other than some slight 
profanity, there are no descriptions of sex or any quote, adult, quote, content.

There is a long history as to why Stephen King possesses the ability to write 
about people with disabilities in such exciting and yet realistic pros but I’ll 
let you discover the answer to that, on your own, if you so choose.

It is so very refreshing to become immersed in a story where people with 
disabilities are treated as equals and not as people who have super human 
powers who can, for example, in the case of a blind person, distinguish someone 
across a room by the rhythm of his heartbeat and respiration rate.  I’ve 
actually had highly educated professionals, ask me if such a thing is true 
based on something they read about on the net or saw in some movie.

Regardless of whatever book you choose, happy reading.

Mark
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RE: Question for Paprika users

[R Van Lant]

Wow, this is great. I did not see this in the  user guide. I  obviously stopped 
reading too soon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2023 12:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question for Paprika users

Yes, if you are in Safari and found a recipe you want to save, simply follow 
the below instructions which come straight from the Paprika user guide for 
iOS<https://www.paprikaapp.com/help/ios/>:

Saving Recipes from Safari
Paprika's Safari extension allows you to easily save recipes directly from 
Safari. To use to Safari extension, first browse to a recipe you would like to 
save in Safari.
Then press the Share button in Safari's toolbar.
In the second row of the share sheet, look for the Paprika 3 icon. If you do 
not see the Paprika 3 icon, press the More button to bring up the activity 
list, and enable the icon for Paprika 3.
Finally, press the Paprika 3 icon to download and save the recipe into Paprika.

Once you tap the share icon, you get the typical Paprika screen where you can 
select a category, give the recipe a rating and you may have to manually enter 
the description depending on the site, once done just tap the Save button and 
it will be done.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2023 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Question for Paprika users

After hearing one more blind  cook’s testimonial on Paprika, I bought the app 
this morning.  I’ve read most of the instructions to get me started, skipping 
the more in-depth things about editing and manually entering recipes. I’m not 
planning at this stage to import my recipe collection, but I do have a 
particular recipe website  that is not on the list provided from which I plan 
to import recipes.  I figured out how to add that to the bookmarks in Paprika 
and I can make my way to it and search for recipes. Here is the question. Each 
day, I get an email from this website that features recipes. If I click on the 
link in the email, it takes  me to the recipe within Safari.  I’m trying to  
figure out the best way to then put that into Paprika.  It seems that I will 
need to copy the address while in Safari , then go into Paprika and put it into 
the browser  there so that I can then hit the download button. The alternative 
is to go to my bookmark in paprika for  this site, then do a search for the 
recipe name.  is there any more direct way or are these the only two options?

Thanks.
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Question for Paprika users

[R Van Lant]

After hearing one more blind  cook's testimonial on Paprika, I bought the app 
this morning.  I've read most of the instructions to get me started, skipping 
the more in-depth things about editing and manually entering recipes. I'm not 
planning at this stage to import my recipe collection, but I do have a 
particular recipe website  that is not on the list provided from which I plan 
to import recipes.  I figured out how to add that to the bookmarks in Paprika 
and I can make my way to it and search for recipes. Here is the question. Each 
day, I get an email from this website that features recipes. If I click on the 
link in the email, it takes  me to the recipe within Safari.  I'm trying to  
figure out the best way to then put that into Paprika.  It seems that I will 
need to copy the address while in Safari , then go into Paprika and put it into 
the browser  there so that I can then hit the download button. The alternative 
is to go to my bookmark in paprika for  this site, then do a search for the 
recipe name.  is there any more direct way or are these the only two options?

Thanks.
Robin on SE 2020 with latest release of IOS.

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RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

[R Van Lant]

And, if you don't remember the gesture, just ask Siri to take a screen shot. 
Worked for me the other day.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 8:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

Carolyn,
If you don't have a home button meaning you use face id.  Simultaneously press 
and then release the side button and volume up button, and that will take a 
screen shot.  Tap the screenshot in the lower left corner, look for the done 
button, tap Done.



Janet
Janet

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

And with no Home Button, what do you do?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

Yes, you have to turn off the screen curtain before taking a screen shot, 
otherwise, you get a nice black picture with no helpful information.




Richard, USA.
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

Here is how to take a screen shot on any iPhone with a home button.

I don't know if it is required, but I recommend that you make sure the screen 
curtain is off before taking a screen shot.  Turn the screen curtain on or off 
with a 3 finger triple-tap.

Press the power button and home button at the same time.  You will hear the 
camera click.  Wait just a few seconds, and the screen shot will be in the 
photo library.

Rob

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

Hi all,

I need to take a screenshot to send to an app vendor for diagnostic purposes. 
But I can't remember how to do it. Could someone remind me? I'm running the 
latest iOS on an SE second generation iPhone.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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RE: smart locks

[R Van Lant]

My only complaint with door levers is that they are harder to babyproof.  
Little kids can so easily pull on a door lever.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 5:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: smart locks

Janet, I try to explain one more time, when I speak about a door knob or lever 
I mean an item which does the same thing, it opens the door.
Maybe if you go to Home Depot you can ask them to show you lever-style handles, 
as I said, coming from Europe (in my case Germany) that is all we ever had. 
When I came to Canada for the first time in 1980 at the age of 13 having all 
this twist type knobs on doors was a total novalty for me. Luckily at least 
here in Canada the more modern lever-style handles are catching on more and 
more and I don't have a single knob-type handle on any door both at my house 
and at the more heavy-duty, solid commercial doors at my store. All have 
levers, you push down and open the door instead of grabbing the knob and 
twisting it. It is also much easier to open a door with a lever-style handle if 
your hands are full since you can simply push it down with your elbow, forearm, 
hip or if you so choose even with your head, leg or foot (then of course you 
have to balance on one leg as you lift the other to push the handle. If you 
cary something very large you could even turn around and hook it with your belt 
- the possibilities are ndless. And I also think they look way nicer.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: smart locks

Hi Sieghard,
I completely understand the difference between the door knob, lever, deadbolt.  
I do definitely need a door knob though, or I couldn’t open the door.  I have a 
thick wooden door, and even though, the door knob is not the main loc to open 
the door, I still have to have it to open the door.  We do not use the door 
knob for the main lock though.  That is why we also have a other lock such as 
the deadbolt as our main lock.  Every one where I live have door knobs.  
Because I have a thick wooden door, I can’t just swing the wooden door open.  
We have the door knobs all through the building, in the hallways, laundry 
rooms, front doors, back doors, basement doors, boiler room.  No matter where I 
go, rather it be a office or such, they all have door knobs for opening and 
closing, in doctor’s offices, through all hospitals, lawyers offices, 
Government offices.  So that is how we get through doors, but these knobs are 
not the main locks.  This information about the smart lock, sounds great, and 
very interesting.  I will definitely consider this one.  I would have to ask 
the Home Depo if they could install it for me though.
Thank you so much for all of this.

Janet
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: smart locks

Janet, you have to understand the difference between the knob or lever you turn 
or push down on to open an unlocked door and the deadbolt.
If you have a good and secure deadbolt there is no reason to also have a 
knob/lever which can be locked. As I said before, these are typically not very 
strong and are designed for inside the house for bathrooms, bedrooms or an 
office which you may want to lock, but  you are not typically worried about 
something which is extremely secure, just something to keep somebody out like 
when you go to the washroom and you simply don't want somebody else to walk in 
on you.
As I said, I prefer the European style levers but of course a round or ovel 
knob you twist works just fine if that is your preference and of course you 
could leave your existing lockable knob, but if you don't carry the key then 
just make sur eyou don't accidently lock it when you leave.
Below is the name and a summary of the Schlage Encode Plus which is my next 
choice for a smart lock since it supports the "Apple Keys" feature which allows 
you to unlock it by tapping your phone or watch against the lock. This means 
you can unlock this even if the power were out since it does not rrequire Wi-Fi 
for unlocking as long as you stand right in front of it with your iPhone or 
Apple Watch. In this case it communicates directly with your device, of course 
your iPhone would have to be unlocked so if you are somebody who prefers not to 
have your iPhone protected with a PIN and Face Id (or touch Id if you have anb 
SE) then you would have to do so otherwise you can't set up this feature just 
like you can't set up a credit card for Apple Pay unless your phone is 
protected by a passcode/Face Id or Touch Id.

Schlage Encode Plus Electronic Smart lock Wifi Deadbolt 

taking notes in a PDF book

[R Van Lant]

Hi all,
I  finished all my formal schooling prior to all these electronic books.  I'm 
considering doing a year long Bible study class next school year.  The book 
that we work through is available in PDF.  There are lots of questions and 
areas to write notes.  A sighted friend told me that she used the PDF book on 
her iPad and a program I think she called Notability.  For those who have used 
electronic books like this, do you find it efficient to take notes in the 
document itself with some app?  I'm wondering both whether there is an app that 
would do this well and, if so, if it's efficient to review that so I can 
reference my notes during the weekly discussion. My other options is probably 
to copy the questions into a document and type my answers there  so I'm able to 
access those easily in discussion.  Would love to know what people find useful 
as a VoiceOver user.  This is all new to me.  Any time I've been in a book 
club, I've felt a bit left out when people are saying things like , "oh, what 
did you think of this idea on page 72".  I'm think this class will be more 
structured in how we move through the content, but I'm not really sure yet.


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RE: getting guidance while in an Uber

[R Van Lant]

I have intended to try Good Maps outdoors.  I’ll download it and test it out.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2023 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: getting guidance while in an Uber

Hi robin,

One really quick thing you can do is ask Siri “where am I.” I have used Siri in 
situations like yours. I also use Good Maps Outdoors.

I hope that helps!

Debby

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Subject: getting guidance while in an Uber

Hi,
Usually when I’m in an Uber or Lyft, the driver has audio guidance on and I can 
hear where we are, allowing me to feel like I know we’re going the way we 
should be. The other  night, I had a situation  where the driver did not have 
the audio on and we went a very different way than I’m used to. My sighted 
daughter was with me and she told me the road. I then opened Apple Maps and I 
could see that we were on that major road I knew. My daughter could also see 
the driver’s GPS and where he was being directed to turn. So, my question is, 
if I already have Uber or Lyft open, what other app makes sense to run to keep 
tabs on where we are?  Is just having Apple Maps open what you do or do you 
recommend something else?  I might have used soundscape in the past. I have 
BlindSquare, but I need to get in better practice of adjusting settings. In 
this case, I just wanted to know which road we were on and cross streets so 
that I knew if my safety was at risk.

Thoughts appreciated.

Robin

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getting guidance while in an Uber

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
Usually when I'm in an Uber or Lyft, the driver has audio guidance on and I can 
hear where we are, allowing me to feel like I know we're going the way we 
should be. The other  night, I had a situation  where the driver did not have 
the audio on and we went a very different way than I'm used to. My sighted 
daughter was with me and she told me the road. I then opened Apple Maps and I 
could see that we were on that major road I knew. My daughter could also see 
the driver's GPS and where he was being directed to turn. So, my question is, 
if I already have Uber or Lyft open, what other app makes sense to run to keep 
tabs on where we are?  Is just having Apple Maps open what you do or do you 
recommend something else?  I might have used soundscape in the past. I have 
BlindSquare, but I need to get in better practice of adjusting settings. In 
this case, I just wanted to know which road we were on and cross streets so 
that I knew if my safety was at risk.

Thoughts appreciated.

Robin

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New app to announce status of pedestrian signals

[R Van Lant]

All,
Thomas just  did a review of a new IOS app call OKO ( on AppleVis that 
announces the status of a pedestrian signal.  I just tried it on my SE 202 and 
it's really quite cool.  I have a umber of audible signals here, but this will 
be really handy when I'm at a street without them that doesn't have good 
traffic flow to read.

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magic tap turns on music not in my library

[R Van Lant]

Hi all,
I have very limited music in my apple music library.  It used to be that 
sometimes doing a two finger double tap would trigger a song in my library to 
start playing.  You know, you are listening to a BARD book and too much time 
passes after a pause, so a two finger double tap starts a song, rather than 
starting the book again because the screen locked.  Anyway, I've noted in the 
last month or so that I'm now hearing songs that aren't in my library and I 
don't know why are where they are coming from. The first song that plays was 
some sort of pop or hip hop song I've never heard of.  The newest one is a 
blast from my 1980's childhood, but still not one in my library or that I've 
ever pulled up on this phone.  Anyone  else having this?  I just confirmed that 
I haven't accidentally subscribed to Apple Music, . On IOS 16.3 on an iPhone SE 
2020.

Robin



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RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

[R Van Lant]

Well, bummer. Maybe they don’t' make it anymore.  I cannot find it in the app 
store. It's not the repeat habits one noted below.  I don’t see a way to look 
at the developer name from within the app, either.



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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 11:29 AM
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Not sure if it is this one by a developer called Lab11 Ltd.:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/repeat-habits-wellbeing/id1546204928


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Samco
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 9:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

Repeat Check sounds like an app worth checking out. Using those terms I found 
nothing in the Apple app store. Can you verify this is the app name? Who is the 
developer?

Thanks,
Jeff

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Lant
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

I like Repeat Check.  Someone on this list recommended it years ago and it's 
been really helpful. I have all sorts of lists from gift ideas, to movies I 
want to see, questions to ask my doctor at my next visit, and places I want to 
visit and so on. As someone described doing with the Reminders app, this app by 
design lets you double tap to mark the item as complete, then you can move it 
back to the top if you want to start over. I don’t' use this for shopping, but 
I could definitely see how you'd have  a list of core things, mark them off as 
you get them, then bring them back to the list when you want to buy them again. 
 Double tapping marks as complete or a flick up gets you to a place to quickly 
delete the item. 


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Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for inaccessible list making app

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for an accessible list making app. I’ll be using it on my iPhone 
running the current iOS version and its primary use will be for shopping lists.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
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RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

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I like Repeat Check.  Someone on this list recommended it years ago and it's 
been really helpful. I have all sorts of lists from gift ideas, to movies I 
want to see, questions to ask my doctor at my next visit, and places I want to 
visit and so on. As someone described doing with the Reminders app, this app by 
design lets you double tap to mark the item as complete, then you can move it 
back to the top if you want to start over. I don’t' use this for shopping, but 
I could definitely see how you'd have  a list of core things, mark them off as 
you get them, then bring them back to the list when you want to buy them again. 
 Double tapping marks as complete or a flick up gets you to a place to quickly 
delete the item. 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for inaccessible list making app

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for an accessible list making app. I’ll be using it on my iPhone 
running the current iOS version and its primary use will be for shopping lists.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
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RE: Issue with creating new message in Messenger app

[R Van Lant]

Thanks for taking the time to write that out, Katrina. I’ll give it a try. I 
don’t think I named my group, so maybe that was my issue.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Katrina 
Anderson
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Issue with creating new message in Messenger app

I had the same result as you, until I created a group.  You should try that 
again, as I did find an area to type a message or option to record, etc.  
Perhaps you will find the following helpful:

  1.  I started by double tapping on “new message,” and then double tapped on 
“create a new group.”
  2.  I double tapped on the edit field for creating a name of the group and 
then typed a name for the group.
  3.  I then swiped right to the name of someone I wanted to be part of the 
group, double tapped on that name.  After double tapping on a name, Voiceover 
announces the name is selected.  I continue swiping right and repeat the 
process until the desired names have been selected.
  4.  I then double tapped on a button labeled, “create.”  That button is 
toward the top of the screen, just left of the field for the name of the group.
  5.  I then heard Voiceover say something about what I had named the group.
  6.  Swiping right at this point led to my finding where I could type or speak 
a message to the group.
  7.  Specifics about creating the message are as you would expect.

HTH
Katrina
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Issue with creating new message in Messenger app

Hi,
I’m on an iPhone running IOS 16.3 and the latest Messenger.  I’m trying to send 
a message to two people.  I tapped the New message button and searched for the 
first person. I then found an Add button, which I assumed I had to tap, and 
searched for the second person. I saw another add button once I found her and 
so I tapped that . Both the people I want are now listed to the left of the 
“To: field, so I think I have that correct.  Here’s the thing. I cannot figure 
how to get past this to start typing the message. There is no Next button, 
hitting enter does nothing and  my screen is full of all these other suggested 
contacts. Scrolling down to the end of the suggested recipients lists doesn’t 
help.   What am I missing?  How do I move to the message body?  I really need 
to write to both of these people at the same time to discuss the three of us 
getting together.

P.S.  I also tried creating a new group and, after adding the contacts, it got 
stuck in a screen that said Loading.  Maybe  I should try that again, but I’m 
not sure I need to do that approach.

Robin


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Issue with creating new message in Messenger app

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I'm on an iPhone running IOS 16.3 and the latest Messenger.  I'm trying to send 
a message to two people.  I tapped the New message button and searched for the 
first person. I then found an Add button, which I assumed I had to tap, and 
searched for the second person. I saw another add button once I found her and 
so I tapped that . Both the people I want are now listed to the left of the 
"To: field, so I think I have that correct.  Here's the thing. I cannot figure 
how to get past this to start typing the message. There is no Next button, 
hitting enter does nothing and  my screen is full of all these other suggested 
contacts. Scrolling down to the end of the suggested recipients lists doesn't 
help.   What am I missing?  How do I move to the message body?  I really need 
to write to both of these people at the same time to discuss the three of us 
getting together.

P.S.  I also tried creating a new group and, after adding the contacts, it got 
stuck in a screen that said Loading.  Maybe  I should try that again, but I'm 
not sure I need to do that approach.

Robin


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OverDrive app being retired

[R Van Lant]

My local library had an article in the March newsletter saying Overdrive is 
being discontinued by the developer at the end of April. We are being told to 
use Libby instead.  One thing I noticed when I was reading the benefits listed 
for Libby is that it says you can transfer books to Kindle. I haven't 
researched it to see if that means the Kindle app, wherein we could use 
VoiceOver.  I don't have the time to read more now, but saved this Libby help 
link and wanted to share, so others aren't surprised by the news.

https://help.libbyapp.com/en-us/index.htm

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RE: New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ...

[R Van Lant]

Sorry the original link didn’t work – maybe since I shared it from the app.  
Here is the link on my desktop website and the text of the article below the 
link:
https://www.denver7.com/news/technology/new-clean-energy-charging-feature-on-iphones-raising-eyebrows-among-some-users


New clean energy charging feature on iPhones raising eyebrows among some users 
(denver7.com)<https://www.denver7.com/news/technology/new-clean-energy-charging-feature-on-iphones-raising-eyebrows-among-some-users>

DENVER — When our phone's battery gets low, we're usually in a mad dash to find 
the nearest charger to give us a boost, but a new iPhone feature intentionally 
charges at a slower rate to help the environment.
Apple caused quite the stir on social media with the new feature called clean 
energy charging. One Twitter user wrote, “They snuck this in on us.” Another 
said, “If you noticed your iPhone is charging a little slower recently, it may 
be due to a new updated setting Apple added.”
The feature is set to the "on" position as a default, but it’s easy to turn 
off. Those with iPhones can go their phone’s settings, then battery, then 
battery health and charging and then clean energy charging. You then click 
"off."
“Apple is moving toward reducing the carbon footprint of all of our devices,” 
said Dr. Steve Beaty, professor and chair of computer sciences at Metropolitan 
State University of Denver.
The feature slows your phone’s charge during peak hours of electrical use. It 
also uses location information to slow your charge if you’re in a region of the 
country where the grid uses higher carbon emission electricity and less solar 
and wind.
Experts are at odds about whether this is good or bad.
“Most people think, and I think appropriately, ‘Hey, it’s my iPhone at my 
house. How much could it matter?’ But when we start looking at hundreds of 
millions of devices all over the world, to a certain degree, why not do this? 
Why not slow things down?” said Beaty.
“I don’t think this really appeals to the younger generation,” said Darin 
Duber-Smith, senior lecturer at MSU Denver and green energy consultant. “I 
think they’re very cynical about whether companies can really do anything about 
trying to save the planet, and rightfully so. These companies can really do 
nothing more than minimize their negative impact on the environment. They can’t 
really help the environment.”
Duber-Smith says green energy initiatives are putting more stress on the grid, 
and companies like Apple are working with the government to modify consumer 
behaviors because of that stress.
“It’s green washing,” he said. “It’s when you’re trying to make your company 
look more sustainable or greener than they really are. The grid is very 
stressed, and as we put more onto the grid, i.e. electric cars, it’s only going 
to get more stressed.”
On the other hand, Beaty sees this feature as encouraging smart consumption 
among phone users and says the location feature is intuitive.
“It won’t slow down charging at what it considers an unusual place,” Beaty 
said. “So, for example, it might slow down charging in the evening at your 
home, but it won’t slow down if you’re plugged in to a charger at an airport or 
hotel.”
“If I was Apple, I wouldn’t use the term clean energy,” said Duber-Smith. “I 
think that’s the problem. What you’re really doing is, it’s an energy saver 
function.”

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 10:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ...

I also got the page not pound message, so I got google to find it. Look under 
battery, battery health and charging.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Feb 27, 2023, at 10:56 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca<mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> wrote:

Hi when I looked at this link I got a page not found message. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: February 27, 2023 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ...

Just read this news story. As it notes, my iPhone SE 2020 had the clean energy 
setting turned on, so I turned it off. I’m usually in a hurry to charge my 
phone, so I don’t want anything to slow it down.

New clean energy charging feature on iPhones raising eyebrows among some users
https://www.denver7.com/decodedc/technology/new-clean-energy-charging-feature-on-iphones-raising-eyebrows-among-some-users

Robin in Colorado
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New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ...

[R Van Lant]

Just read this news story. As it notes, my iPhone SE 2020 had the clean energy 
setting turned on, so I turned it off. I'm usually in a hurry to charge my 
phone, so I don't want anything to slow it down.

New clean energy charging feature on iPhones raising eyebrows among some users
https://www.denver7.com/decodedc/technology/new-clean-energy-charging-feature-on-iphones-raising-eyebrows-among-some-users

Robin in Colorado

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RE: Long standing issue with posting items for sale on Facebook

[R Van Lant]

Yep, it’s been an issue for a while. And I just find that the format for 
posting changes enough that I’m actually going to have an AIRA agent help me 
soon so I don’t screw something up. Just afraid that my posting will look funny 
to a sighted user and they won’t trust me as a seller.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Long standing issue with posting items for sale on Facebook

Hi, not sure if others here use local buy and sell groups or Facebook market 
Place to sell stuff, but I was hoping some others would maybe also report to 
Facebook how frustrating it is that as a Voiceover user it is impossible to 
properly edit anything one writes in these fields. If I am in the description 
field I can write content either with the onscreen keyboard, by dictation or 
using a Bluetooth keyboard, I can also backspace and delete a word if I 
realized I made a mistake, but there is no way to actually review a longer 
description, navigate to a certain word which was maybe misspelled and correct 
it. Similarly, once you post something and this includes regular comments on 
Facebook, editing it virtually impossible unless you delete everything and 
start from scratch. This is independent from the current issue of not being 
able to post anything at least not if you use the 16.4 public beta.
I work around this by using the computer if I want to edit something I posted 
for sale. In some ways it's easier to post on the iPhone since you can take 
pictures right then and there, on the other side if I want to include a longer 
description, for example if I am selling a TV or other piece of technology 
where I want to include a detailed description with features and specs, it is 
actually easier on the computer since I can write everything first in Notepad 
and then simply copy and paste it which I find much easier and faster to do on 
the computer as opposed to on an iPhone. Only thing then is that I have to 
first take the pictures and save them to my Dropbox or OneDrive so I can browse 
to them when I set up the ad on the computer.
Nonetheless it would be nice if one could make a quick edit in a description 
using the iPhone.

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RE: WayAround

[R Van Lant]

I have enough sewing skills to attach the button tags. I’m sure I have put some 
items through the wash with just a safety pin holding the tag on, but it’s not 
my norm.  The buttons are black, so you do want to think about where to attach 
them where they  won’t show. I typically sew them onto an existing tag in the 
clothing, either at the collar or on the side sea near the bottom hem.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WayAround

So how do you attach the items to your clothing do you sew them on as you 
mentioned as possible in your email or do you use some other method do you have 
any trouble with them coming off in the wash


On Jan 27, 2023, at 2:04 PM, R Van Lant 
mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:

I use Way Around tags on my clothes.  I have Braille color tags on the  single 
color clothes, but use the Way Around tags on items where I want to describe 
the pattern and or what items the clothes work best with.  Sometimes I’ll note 
the brand and size on the item.  Way Around has a template where you can fill 
in multiple fields of information. I just put it all in the first field, which 
is labeled “description”.  I just don’t have the patience to do all the fields, 
nor do I typically want to save that much info.  They offer tags shaped like 
buttons that you sew or pin onto the items. They also have round tags with a 
larger single hole in the middle that  you can pin on or affix in other ways. 
Both are washer and dryer safeThese round tags are my favorite. I also use 
them on items in my freezer. I use the stickers on items like my thermostat or 
remote control where I forget the order of the buttons.

Robin





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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: WayAround

Does these work on clothing? I’m in need of something that will hold up in the 
washer and dryer.
Thanks

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jody 
ianuzzi
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: WayAround

CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
ab...@michigan.gov<mailto:ab...@michigan.gov>

The less expensive alternative to way around is to simply buy NFC stickers from 
Amazon and use the Tag Manager app which is free.
JODY

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"What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik 
Weihenmayer

On Jan 25, 2023, at 6:31 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I use Way Around and love it. Could be a bit expensive but, I found it well 
worth it. Very easy to use with smart phone and you can add as much as 
information on each tag (RFI) as you need. I like to add the color, Brand, Size 
and where I purchased the shirt, pants etc. on the tag. These never failed me 
so far and Customer service is very nice. Andy and Leroy

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Steve 
Cook
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: WayAround

Hi All,

Feel free to share this with your networks!

The Computer Science & Technology Division of the NFB of SC will have a 
presentation from Michael Doise from WayAround. Michael will tell us all about 
the app and its features, the tags used for labeling purposes, history of 
WayAround and much much more! We hope you will join us for this WayAround 
presentation using the below Zoom information!

Date: Saturday, January 28, 2023
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The WayAround presentation will be recorded and share on the National 
Federation of the Blind of South Carolina podcast with the presenters 
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RE: WayAround

[R Van Lant]

I use Way Around tags on my clothes.  I have Braille color tags on the  single 
color clothes, but use the Way Around tags on items where I want to describe 
the pattern and or what items the clothes work best with.  Sometimes I’ll note 
the brand and size on the item.  Way Around has a template where you can fill 
in multiple fields of information. I just put it all in the first field, which 
is labeled “description”.  I just don’t have the patience to do all the fields, 
nor do I typically want to save that much info.  They offer tags shaped like 
buttons that you sew or pin onto the items. They also have round tags with a 
larger single hole in the middle that  you can pin on or affix in other ways. 
Both are washer and dryer safeThese round tags are my favorite. I also use 
them on items in my freezer. I use the stickers on items like my thermostat or 
remote control where I forget the order of the buttons.

Robin





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Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WayAround

Does these work on clothing? I’m in need of something that will hold up in the 
washer and dryer.
Thanks

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ianuzzi
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Subject: Re: WayAround

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The less expensive alternative to way around is to simply buy NFC stickers from 
Amazon and use the Tag Manager app which is free.
JODY

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On Jan 25, 2023, at 6:31 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
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I use Way Around and love it. Could be a bit expensive but, I found it well 
worth it. Very easy to use with smart phone and you can add as much as 
information on each tag (RFI) as you need. I like to add the color, Brand, Size 
and where I purchased the shirt, pants etc. on the tag. These never failed me 
so far and Customer service is very nice. Andy and Leroy

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Steve 
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Hi All,

Feel free to share this with your networks!

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the app and its features, the tags used for labeling purposes, history of 
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WayAround is the app for your smart device that provides on-demand details 
about everyday things. The simple tag-and-scan approach lets you quickly and 
easily identify things around you. It also provides extra details, like how 
something works or when it expires.
The result? Doing more of the things you want, with more confidence and more 
independence.

With Information Rich Audio Tags
Sometimes the little things can cause the biggest frustrations. WayAround is 
great for all the places in your home or office where you'd like better 
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adjusting to iPad

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I bought a used iPad recently.  It's primary use so far is for  my son to play 
Minecraft, but I won't tell him that. It's set up under my Apple ID  and I'm 
slowly setting it up to be a backup to my iPhone for some  things like reading 
audio books.  I'm definitely finding it harder to adjust to the layout than I 
thought. It came with some widgets on the home screen that I have never used on 
my phone and I still need to get a sense of how I want to organize it, given 
the larger real estate.  It also took me a bit to get used to Settings, were 
the menu is on the left and the options are on the right; that seems to mean 
the flicking left and right isn't as reliable, as I have to get focus in the 
right place first.

Probably the biggest surprise is how different the keyboard is.  It took me a 
long time to find an exclamation point for a password I have.  I'm really 
surprised that the number and symbols keyboards don't mirror the iPhone - or 
maybe it's that I always use my iPhone in portrait mode and the landscape 
keyboard would be more  similar to the iPad.   I'm also finding it tricky to 
use control panel as I seem to get it open, then somehow touch the wrong place 
and close it.  Does control panel not fill the whole screen like it does on the 
iPhone?  Why did I just think it was a larger version of my phone?

Anyway, just looking for other advice on adjusting or switching between the 
two. My ego has taken a hit with this thing.

Robin

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RE: moving apps

[R Van Lant]

I agree that it has become increasingly easy to accidentally create a folder, 
even though I am sure I heard VO indicate that the app would be ready to drop 
to the left or right of the app I’m on.  In doing some cleanup this week, I 
found that, if I was really patient and waited for VO to fully finished saying 
the phrase “drop after blah, blah blah” and gave it one more short pause, my 
success rate for getting the app where I wanted it was much higher.

Robin

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2023 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I think you should report this to Apple Accessibility because I have had this 
happen as well quite a lot and I believe it's simply a bug.
All you can do when it happens is take the items out of the folder and try 
again, it will work eventually.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
dlmlao...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: moving apps

I mostly understand how to move apps around the home screen, to and from the 
App library, but I do not always get the results I want.

I have a row on my home screen that is empty except for one app. I want to 
place an app to the right of that one lone app on that row. I can’t do it 
consistently.

I sometimes create folders without wanting to do so. VoiceOver announces “Drop 
App X before (or after) app y, and that’s what I want to do, but when I 
double-tap, I’ve created a folder. Then I have to drag an app out of the folder 
to get rid of it.

Can anybody shed any light on what I might be missing in all this?

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RE: Air Pods 2nd generation

[R Van Lant]

It does feel a bit cluttered. They are very willing to take orders by phone, so 
feel free to call them if you want to order.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Pods 2nd generation

For a website that is mostly for blind people, it isn’t as accessable as it 
might be.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Dec 2022, at 20:54, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> Looks like the price is a bit higher now, although they often have sales.
> 
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mysticaccess.com%2Fproduct%2Faudio-documentation-on-apple-airpods-pro-second-generation%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3d007aa062b44d6cd6bf08dae9deec21%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638079440912371112%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=7HGkzDG0zQqUUsQ6VJqv2Y4QrPbfaAEIJwE8mssvPEU%3D=0
> 
> Robin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 7:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Air Pods 2nd generation
> 
> Any chance of a link?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Dec 2022, at 14:30, R Van Lant  wrote:
>> 
>> Bill,
>> If  you need it, Mystic Access did a 1.5 hour training webinar on the Apple 
>> Airpods recently. I paid $15 for it.  I haven't finished listening to it, 
>> but their tutorials are usually pretty thorough.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> William Outman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 7:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Air Pods 2nd generation
>> 
>> Got the Air Pods paired. Even found they came with 96% charge. 
>> Now the task will be learning how to use them.  I noticed in addition to 
>> showing up among my bluetooth device, they show up with a seperate button in 
>> settings even before airplane mode. 
>> Bill Outman 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Delia Avina  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi William,
>>> You need to open the case near the back of the phone to start pairing.
>>> Let me know if you need more help.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 12:13 PM, William Outman  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just bought Air Pods 2nd generation today. 
>>>> Is there anything about pairing and operation I need to know that isn’t 
>>>> obvious. I am also planning to carry these over to the phone upgrade 
>>>> whenever that happens. 
>>>> Bill 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Air Pods 2nd generation

[R Van Lant]

Looks like the price is a bit higher now, although they often have sales.

https://www.mysticaccess.com/product/audio-documentation-on-apple-airpods-pro-second-generation/

Robin

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Pods 2nd generation

Any chance of a link?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Dec 2022, at 14:30, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> If  you need it, Mystic Access did a 1.5 hour training webinar on the Apple 
> Airpods recently. I paid $15 for it.  I haven't finished listening to it, but 
> their tutorials are usually pretty thorough.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> William Outman
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 7:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Air Pods 2nd generation
> 
> Got the Air Pods paired. Even found they came with 96% charge. 
> Now the task will be learning how to use them.  I noticed in addition to 
> showing up among my bluetooth device, they show up with a seperate button in 
> settings even before airplane mode. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Delia Avina  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi William,
>> You need to open the case near the back of the phone to start pairing.
>> Let me know if you need more help.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>>>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 12:13 PM, William Outman  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just bought Air Pods 2nd generation today. 
>>> Is there anything about pairing and operation I need to know that isn’t 
>>> obvious. I am also planning to carry these over to the phone upgrade 
>>> whenever that happens. 
>>> Bill 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Air Pods 2nd generation

[R Van Lant]

Bill,
If  you need it, Mystic Access did a 1.5 hour training webinar on the Apple 
Airpods recently. I paid $15 for it.  I haven't finished listening to it, but 
their tutorials are usually pretty thorough.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
Outman
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Pods 2nd generation

Got the Air Pods paired. Even found they came with 96% charge. 
Now the task will be learning how to use them.  I noticed in addition to 
showing up among my bluetooth device, they show up with a seperate button in 
settings even before airplane mode. 
Bill Outman 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Delia Avina  wrote:
> 
> Hi William,
> You need to open the case near the back of the phone to start pairing.
> Let me know if you need more help.
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 12:13 PM, William Outman  wrote:
>> 
>> Just bought Air Pods 2nd generation today. 
>> Is there anything about pairing and operation I need to know that isn’t 
>> obvious. I am also planning to carry these over to the phone upgrade 
>> whenever that happens. 
>> Bill 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Siri and dictation tones

[R Van Lant]

Bill,
Glad you also voiced the concern on the tone.  I would love  if they would give 
us an option for the old or new tone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
Outman
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and dictation tones

It turned out the volume on Siri and dictation had been turned down for some 
ungodly reason. We figured that out on a call with Apple Accessibility.  I also 
made note to them the dislike of the new Siri tone, and also some fiddly 
behavior I’ve seen since 16.2 in the Weather app with the location chooser and 
location list, namely focus problems.
Bill

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On Dec 28, 2022, at 10:35 AM, 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com<mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, and dictation using Siri from the home screen  with 16 no longer works 
with any consistency on my SE 2020. I like simple and don’t always feel like 
being inside the Message  App dictating  in the edit field. That function works 
well, but what is the point of using Siri if you can’t use it more on the fly?
All I get is the text and a listen button that does noting for my purposes. I 
have not found any setting to remedy this though I may have gotten some 
pointers here in thepast many weeks, all of which I tried.  Usually Only 
occasionally do I get a prompting to send., Voice over is quite fickle and I do 
not use a Bluetooth keyboard, even though I have one. I much prefer using my 
old out  of  service 6S that does not have 16 on it, for daily  texting. It 
still allows me to dictate and add text without losing it, and I mean from the 
home screen, not from within the message app. I do an awful lot of texting each 
day.
   I still can’t figure out how to get rid of the double 
notifications. I used to only get my remindersand notifications at the 
appointed hour and those were settings done in notifications. With 16 I now 
have those alerts as well as messages in the “notification center.” No matter 
if it  is on or off, it still gives me those alerts and hangs onto them until I 
clear them. I never used to have to do that.

  I do not know what phone I might even want once 
the SE dies, and that is too bad because I am glued to my phone as is. It’s 
fortunate that the apps I use work fine.

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Siri and dictation tones

For a while now, when I say "Hey Siri," there is no tone; just Siri saying "ah 
huh"
It says it fairly quietly.
I only get the new, quieter, tone if I hold in the button.
Both Apple and Windows seem to think everyone has super hearing the way their 
tones have lowered in volume.



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On Dec 28, 2022, at 7:00 AM, R Van Lant 
mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:
Bill, is it possible that volume on Siri is turned down?  I've already given 
feedback to Apple that I cannot hear that first tone very well, especially with 
any background noise.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
William Outman
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Subject: Siri and dictation tones

Good morning.
For about the last day I have not had my Siri and dictation tones for some 
reason. Dictation works but I cannot get acknowledgement Siri heard me say Hey 
Siri.
That’s the only thing that seems amiss in a major way with my iPhone 8 Plus 
running iOS 16.2 Checked the settings I could think of and restarted the phone. 
 All other sounds are fine.
Bill


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RE: Siri and dictation tones

[R Van Lant]

Bill, is it possible that volume on Siri is turned down?  I've already given 
feedback to Apple that I cannot hear that first tone very well, especially with 
any background noise.  



-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 11:11 AM
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Subject: Siri and dictation tones

Good morning. 
For about the last day I have not had my Siri and dictation tones for some 
reason. Dictation works but I cannot get acknowledgement Siri heard me say Hey 
Siri. 
That’s the only thing that seems amiss in a major way with my iPhone 8 Plus 
running iOS 16.2 Checked the settings I could think of and restarted the phone. 
 All other sounds are fine. 
Bill 


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RE: Siri and iOS 16.2, what a mess!

[R Van Lant]

Yeah, I think several of us have seen her not understand us. For me it started  
with one of the IOS 16.1 versions.  I upgraded to IOS 16.2 hoping for better 
results.  Jury is still out on that. I find that it works better if I wait a 
tad longer after pressing my home button and hearing the tone

. 


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Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2022 2:29 PM
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Subject: Siri and iOS 16.2, what a mess!

Sometimes I just don’t understand what Siri is doing. I just asked Siri to 
“open bard Mobile“. This is a command I use a lot and I really never had a 
problem with it until now. Upon issuing this command, I heard Siri respond you 
don’t have anyone named Howard in your contacts. That is just about the dumbest 
thing I’ve seen Siri do recently, and there have been a lot of similar 
stupidity‘s on series part. I just don’t get it. Regular dictation seems quite 
accurate. But interacting with Siri to get Siri to do something on the device? 
Oh, brother! It’s like Forrest Gump’s box of chocolates. You never know what 
you’re going to get. 
I will say, however, that the only problem I seem to be having with dictation 
these days is Siri putting periods where they do not be long. Apparently, Siri 
thinks that any sort of complex sentence needs to be broken up even if it 
really is a perfectly good sentence, and does not need To be broken up. 




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RE: stopping dictation

[R Van Lant]

This hits on my frustration since upgrading to  16.x.  I find that Siri no 
longer recognizes commands I've been using for years - -or it takes a couple 
tries to get it right. It's really frustrating.  I already reported to them 
that I have trouble hearing the tone that indicates Siri is listening. When I'm 
in a car or anywhere with some background noise, I cannot tell if she's started 
listening. Apple accessibility  said they forwarded my concern on, since there 
is currently no way to change those tones.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

Siri is not good at recognizing :natural" speech; it often has a particular 
syntax it wants. I think Siri recognizes "dial" such and such a person. Even 
so, I've had to change names in my contacts before because even if I only have 
one Michael, Siri sometimes comes up with a short list of other names 
completely unrelated. I find that most annoying too.  

Deidre

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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:18 AM
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Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t understand 
me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an easy work 
around.
Thomas Frank
vermont...@gmail.com



> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't done 
> any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor bug 
> fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no phone 
> service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the message 
> app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the already 
> dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those functions kind of 
> defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more spontaneously without 
> having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do with the function 
> capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
> 
> Deidre
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Rash
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
> 
> Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do 
> you want to know about Tom Smith.”
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RE: stopping dictation

[R Van Lant]

I rarely use Siri to sent a text. I'm just talking about the dictation function 
on the keyboard in any text entry spot.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

I just was looking at the Siri settings, under Settings, Accessibility, Siri, 
and there is a setting called: Show Apps Behind Siri, which for me is off.  I 
don't recall setting it.  I wonder if that is why there is no message shown 
because this is not on?

I don't use Siri this way to the extent others do so have not felt it to be a 
problem.

But, maybe check that setting and change it to see what impact that has.

HTH,


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

Not sure what you mean that you can still add to messages outside the message 
app, if I dictate a message using Siri and it reads back the message and I want 
to add something, I can say "append" and then dictate what I want to add.
But if you mean that it seems to be no longer possible to manually edit a 
message after dictating it to Siri then I agree that this is a big pain in the 
neck.
By this I mean not dictating a message when you are in the Messages app and you 
do a 2-finger double tap or tap the dictate button, but asking Siri "Message 
John Smith.
In iOS 15 if I said "Message John Smith, Hi John, I am going to be a bit late 
for our meeting, but it shouldn't be more than 10 minutes" I could touch the 
screen near the top after Siri read back the message and I could then double 
tap once I found the message on the screen and I could review and if necessary 
correct any mistakes. That seems to be no longer possible, I have been meaning 
to ask a sighted person if they can do this, but when you use Voiceover at 
least after Siri reads back the message and asks if you want to send it you can 
check the screen anywhere and there is no message.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't done 
any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor bug fixes 
with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further disappointed. I 
often send messages on my back up old phone that has no phone service because I 
can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the message app and it will add 
to them without losing the first part of the already dictated message, which is 
what Siri now does. Losing those functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a 
context, that is, more spontaneously without having to go into the message app. 
Maybe it has to do with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 

Deidre
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do you 
want to know about Tom Smith.”

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stopping dictation

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I've noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade. 
 Wondering if it's just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button to the 
left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to stop 
dictation, assuming that focus hasn't moved from that button, but it seems to 
me that I've been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, doing 
this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my phone. 
Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I'm still in 
dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to the 
app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a two-finger 
double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either that, or my 
latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.For now, I'm 
trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap.

Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.



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RE: Keepass touch stopped working

[R Van Lant]

What do you mean it stopped working?  I use KeePass on my phone and desktop.  I 
make my edits on my desktop and then access the file on KeePass Touch via 
Dropbox.  I can access my file as of today.  I agree that it doesn't stay 
synchronized in real-time, but I just grab the latest file from dropbox if I 
know I have made a change on my desktop.  Admittedly, I have not tried to 
update passwords on my phone and resaved the file to Dropbox, so maybe you do 
need at alternative if you need that. Anyway, the process I am using works.  

Robin
 

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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2022 3:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Keepass touch stopped working

Hello list,
please, does anyone use Keepass touch on Iphone?
I have been using it for years, but I have just found out I can't make it to 
sync the dadabase with any cloud service.
Please, is there any workaround?
I need to have my passwords synced across Iphone and Windows laptop.
I would prefer free app if possible.
Thanks.
     Maria

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text replacement question

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I have set up a text replacement for my two primary email addresses, given how 
often we are asked to enter an email on a website or login screen.  It often 
works, but I have found times when hitting my three letter shortcut doesn't' 
work.  Usually I'll hear the little bubble sound as soon as I type the last 
letter and the replacement option is there.  Do you think that certain websites 
or apps have disabled this as an option?My work email address, in 
particular, is annoying to type on a touch keyboard, so I love the shortcut 
option.



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RE: Outlook mail

[R Van Lant]

I would stick with the native email app if you are comfortable with it.  I've 
started using the Outlook app for work email on my phone and, while it's OK. I 
still prefer the simplicity of the native email app and would not have 
voluntarily started using Outlook, if it weren't required to access my work 
account.  I do love Outlook as an email client on my laptops, though.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 10:05 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Outlook mail

I have never used Outlook on any device ever. I have heard from people who do 
use it say it’s very complicated, and all I want is a Mail app. So I use 
Thunderbird on my computer and iOS mail on my iPhone or iPad. But now I’m 
wondering about Outlook mail. I’ve heard people say it works well. Android and 
iOS. But I just don’t want to get into a big complicated mess. Does anybody 
know of anything anywhere that really sort of describes how you use outlook on 
these platforms?
Mary


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RE: Question about calendar

[R Van Lant]

I like using reminders if it’s something I need  to check-off, such as to give 
my dog her monthly medicine.  I like using the calendar for some things, but 
it’s really easy to delete the notification and then move on with life and not 
be reminded again. With the reminder, it stays in my notifications and I can 
also see it in the reminder app.  If it’s a recurring reminder, double tapping 
it will mark it complete for that instance.

In general, I love reminders because I can just tell Siri, ” remind me later 
tonight to take out the trash” or “remind me on Saturday to call mom”.  It’s a 
quick way to take ideas I have and get them somewhere were I can flick through 
all the to dos.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 9:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about calendar

Hello,

If I want my phone to remind me to do something every Wednesday, Should I use 
calendar or reminder?
In any case, what should I do?
In one occasion I asked Siri to remind me something, but the phone never did 
it. However, the reminder appeared in my Windows pc.
Would anyone please explain what to do to have the iPhone SE20 to remind me an 
event?

Rena

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RE: Attaching a photo to an email

[R Van Lant]

In the camera roll, find the photo you want and tap the share button. Find the 
Mail button and tap that. If  then find the to filed and address to whom you 
want the email sent. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Attaching a photo to an email

How do you attach a photo to a yahoo email Alex

Sent from my iPhone


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RE: native calendar app

[R Van Lant]

I’m not on IOS 16 yet, so hopefully this didn’t change. On IOS 15.7  there is a 
button near the top that says “list” that changes the view from a traditional 
calendar to a linear list. For me, it’s the second button from the left.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: native calendar app

Hi all. I just updated to IOS 16.03. In my native calendar app I used to be 
able to read my calendar appointments by simply flicking right and the phone 
would announce the date, time and title of each appointment. Now I can only get 
it to say “one event” or how ever many events there are on each day. Is this a 
change or can I change a setting somewhere to get it to behave the way it used 
to? Thanks. I’m very grateful for this list.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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RE: lyft issue can't use it

[R Van Lant]

I don't think I have done this recently, but I had a similar issue with another 
credit card entry place and found out that, while it sounded like voice over 
was saying I only needed to enter the two-digit version of the year for the 
expiration, it actually needed the 4 digit version of the year.  



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curmudgeon
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: lyft issue can't use it

any body having problems with using the apt. every time i try to use the apt. i 
have put in correct info for 3 different credit cards. every time it tells me 
there is some thing wrong . i have tried using my checking account and paypal 
any help appreciated 

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RE: Linked in in the iPhone

[R Van Lant]

It’s doable for reading and replying to posts and messages. I have not tried to 
update my profile on it. I find it a bit clunky when trying to find the right 
buttons for sharing a post, but that might get easier if I did it more often.

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literophi...@myself.com
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Linked in in the iPhone

Hi, how accessible is linked In on the iPhone?

Best,
Leo Bado

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RE: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.

[R Van Lant]

I have also seen as suggestion to buy a doorbell and put the noise making side 
were you want the beacon and keep the doorbell button in your pocket.  Someone 
suggested this in a case where they were trying to find a particular driveway 
in a long row of houses.   I agree that AirTags may not be great, at least as a 
sound beacon. I read a comparison that Tiles are better for volume, but still 
probably not loud enough if the environment is loud. It just takes one 
lawnmower to make hearing anything impossible for me.





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are 
some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.

Hi Richard,

I am ever amazed by your wealth of knowledge and suggestions. This is a 
brilliant idea and I have not thought of it. I will go check this out.

Thank you!

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:07 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Beth,
> Check out the app, NaviLens which is free.
> You can request pdf files of tags you print off, then scan with NaviLens and 
> enter or record whatever text you want.
> The tags come in multiple sizes, full page, 4 on a page, 16 on a page and so 
> on.
> The full page one is scannable at at least 70 or 80 feet away.
> What I would do, is print out a full page or at least the 4 on a page, Tape 
> it on a window near the door, and when you are getting close, fire up 
> NaviLens and once it sees the label, it will lead you to it.
> 
> If your address is posted on that door, or near it, if you have a pro model 
> of the 12, 13, or 14, the new door detection feature might work as well.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are 
> some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I appreciate the discussion because I think it’s talked me out of buying 
> because there’s probably other ways I can accomplish what I need. I am 
> looking to learn where a door is in a row of townhomes where there is no 
> distinguishing landmarks or clues to know which is which. But I could at 
> least till winter put some thing audible in the house by the door like a 
> small radio or some thing that I could hear. Until I learn, which is which. 
> An AirTag would work for this, but I think there are other better solutions. 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> BetH
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 10:40 PM, The Evil Chocolate Cookie 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If you’re looking to attach it to something like a remote or anything with 
>> a big enough flat surface, a good old-fashioned piece of tape will do the 
>> trick.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 8, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Keith Kramlinger  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> I have not yet pursued getting AirTags. I do understand, however, that in 
>>> addition to the AirTag,one needs to acquire AirTag holders, so they can be 
>>> affixed to things like keychains, luggage, etc. Of course you could stuff 
>>> it inside a pocket, but this solution may not always work.
>>> This is just an FYI.
>>> If anyone is aware of third-party AirTag holding devices, I would be 
>>> interested to learn how expensive these are. I believe the ones from Apple 
>>> are not necessarily an expensive.
>>> Best, Keith USA
>>> 
>>> 
> On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
 
 As I understand it, they use the Find My app, which is totally accessible.
 
 As Sieghard says, you are the only one who can say if you need them.  I 
 personally don't need to spend $30 for one little tag to track anything.
 Perhaps if I travelled a lot and wanted to track my luggage, but even 
 then, in all the traveling I did when I was younger, my bags were only 
 lost once, and air tags wouldn't have helped since they ended up on a 
 later flight and were delivered to the hotel the next morning.
 
 
 
 
 Richard, USA.
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
 it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
 My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:31 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What 
 are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
 
 You 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[R Van Lant]

My guess is the chime would happen at the same time the sighted people see the 
apple symbol appear on their screen, but may be that is wishful thinking.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 3:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit your 
power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting things coming out 
in the apple world these days.

On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is 
> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the 
> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going 
> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In 
> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>
> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
> models over the years.
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part 
>>> of the
>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>> Mini and
>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have 
>>> a New Chime During Startup
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> From: David Goldfield
>>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
>>> New Chime During Startup
>>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
>>> 
>>> From the Tech-VI list owner:
>>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a 
>>> chime during the boot process. This has been an option which many 
>>> blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the 
>>> entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below. If you 
>>> go to the original source link you can hear what the new chime 
>>> sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit louder 
>>> than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who have 
>>> sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>>>
>>> Original
>>> Source>> h-detection-api/>
>>>
>>>
>>> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>>>
>>> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. 
>>> More specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone 
>>> play a sound every time the device is turned on or off as part of 
>>> the iOS accessibility features.
>>>
>>> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime 
>>> is part of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why 
>>> this option is not available for other iPhone models.
>>>
>>>
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>>> 2022]
>>> NVDA Certified Expert
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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[R Van Lant]

I must have magical powers I have accidentally called 911 twice.  The first 
time I think I was holding my phone as we crossed a parking lot and got into 
the car. Suddenly I heard this alarm and 911 came on the line. Freaked me out, 
so I called Apple accessibility to find out how I had done it.  I thought we 
had turned off the feature, but then one night while dealing with a kid having 
a nightmare and trying to check the time on my phone, I again accidentally 
called 911. I did not hear a countdown or warning with the second time.  It 
would have been really stressful if the police had showed up at my door in the 
middle of the night trying to figure out if I was OK.So, there just must be 
something with the way I grab my phone where I end up pressing the side button 
and volume down button at the same time.  

Robin

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both of 
these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS:

1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads:
Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency 
call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to dial. 
Auto call requires a SIM card.
If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will either 
say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it.
If you swipe right again there is a further explanation:
If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS 
slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert 
sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

2. Call with 5 presses
Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an 
alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very 
difficult to accidently press and  hold either volume up or volume down along 
with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume up 
and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never even 
come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as long as 
you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe the 
countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you to stop 
it before the call.

Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since 
most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple 
press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may 
press the button 5 times instead of 3 times.

As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and 
there is no way you can call emergency services this way.
In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you 
press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence 
and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release 
volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until 
Voiceover says "Power off button".
There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call 
Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all 
you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label 
which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it 
has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My after it has been 
powered off and lastly there is a cancel button.
If you are still worried you can always bring up the Power Off menu by going to 
Settings > General > Shutdown, it does the same thing as pressing volume up, 
volume down and the side button.


You have to press the side button 5 times quickly in order to bring up 
emergency calling.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds 

RE: Aira and Be my eyes

[R Van Lant]

Beyond the confidentiality, I love using AIRA for help with online orders that 
have visual aspects.  My sighted spouse is not a tech fan, so it's less 
stressful for us both if I use an AIRA agent to log into my computer and 
Finnish online orders for me. Just a minute ago I ask my husband to help with a 
slider bar on an order website and he had no idea how to work it. I called 
AIRA, had them log into my PC and the guy quickly moved the slider to where I 
needed it then helped me finish the order.  Last week I bought play tickets for 
 my family, The AIRA agent helped me navigate the new site and select my seats 
in the theater.  Know those sites that have countdown timers on them to get  
your online order done? There's another time AIRA can help. One agent told me 
the shortest counter she had was a 2-minute clock to get the order done.My 
time and frustration  is worth the investment in AIRA.  






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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marcos 
Rodrigues
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 6:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Aira and Be my eyes

Good morning.

What are the advantages of Aira over be my eyes?

I started paying more attention to be my eyes and realised it has the same 
functionalities of Aira with no cost.

Regards.

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RE: Artiles Accessible

[R Van Lant]

Dulce,
Here is an article from Access World that may answer your questions.   I was 
about to buy Air Tags, but since my phone is not new enough to support the 
feature of showing Air Tag location on a map, I may go with the Tiles.

https://www.afb.org/aw/22/6/17588?utm_source=AFB_campaign=07c48d51b7-AW-june-2021_medium=email_term=0_ec813cd965-07c48d51b7-165215297


-Original Message-
From: 'Dulce Weisenborn' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 2:19 PM
To: Listserv Viphone 
Subject: Artiles Accessible

Has anyone use the tile app with their tiles? Is it accessible? If so, what are 
you sticking the tiles too.. How does the. How does the app. How does the app 
tell you the location of the item

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Problem With Audible

[R Van Lant]

Yes, after I swipe through a few and hear it get to the perceived bottom, I do 
a three finger swipe up to get to the next page of titles.  Annoying is right!


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Subject: Re: Problem With Audible

scrolling the list of audible books seems to get stuck all the time.

On 3/13/22, 'cwc' via VIPhone  wrote:
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>
> I have been having a problem with accessing my library within Audible.  
> I can no longer go through the contents without the heading popping up 
> telling me how many books are in the library.
>
>
>
> I have spoken with both Apple and Audible with no resolution.
>
>
>
> This problem cropped up with IOS 15.3.1.
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> If anybody has had the problem and found a way around it, or found a 
> fix for it, I would appreciate any help
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Way Around app issue

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I'm having an issue with the Way Around app and wondering if I'm alone. I'll 
write to the company, but wanted to check.  I'm on the IOS 15.2 on an iPhone SE 
2020 and the app is fully updated.  My issue is that nothing happens when I hit 
the Read button to read a tag or,  after editing the fields to create a new 
tag, it won't "Write the tag.  It says Way Cloud Connected at the top and I've 
even logged out and back in, but it hasn't worked for the past couple days.  
Can't recall when I used it before this past week, so I cannot say when the 
issue started.  Anyone else having issues?

Robin

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strange issue with outlook mail on iPhone

[R Van Lant]

I just had an odd experience and wonder if any of you have faced this. My 
resolution is a work-around, not a true fix.   I have a primary Outlook email 
account that I sync to the native mail, calendar and contacts apps on my iPhone 
SE 2020 running IOS 15.1.   I also check this account via outlook on my laptop. 
 I have not changed the password for quite some time.  Suddenly tonight I got 
an error message when I opened my iPhone mail app saying that I needed to 
re-enter my password for this account and a secondary account that I recently 
added to my phone.  I followed the prompts to go to settings to enter the 
passwords.  The heading said that my account was not authenticated.   With both 
accounts, I attempted to enter my correct password, but it would come back with 
the same screen saying that my account was not authenticated.  I went to 
outlook.live.com on my laptop to validate that I was using the correct password 
and was, indeed, successful at logging into my account.  I tired one more time 
on my phone, but still was not able to authenticate.  Since the secondary email 
account is not really needed on my phone, I figured I'd just delete that 
account and not worry about that.  Oddly, once I did that my primary email 
account suddenly no longer needed to be authenticated and synced again.  All 
this happened within the last 90 minutes, based on the time stamp for the 
previous email update.   I'm glad to have my primary email and such working, 
but bothered that I was not having success in authenticating.Have any of 
you been prompted for passwords, even if you didn't' change it?  Anything I 
could have been doing wrong?


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RE: I cannot edit in Facebook text boxes

[R Van Lant]

Thanks for the work around. I’ll play with that and also see if I can report 
the issue to FB.  Very annoying.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I cannot edit in Facebook text boxes

This Facebook editting bug started for me 3 Facebook updates ago. I found 
turning on screen recognition & tapping within the edit box activates the 
cursor. Once the cursor has been activated, turn off SR & proceed with editting 
the post.

Donna



A longstanding issue as far as I know, it's almost impossible to do on an 
iPhone and I doubt it has to do with iOS 14 or 15, but it would be something 
Facebook has to fix. I once tried to simply change the price of something and 
after 10 minutes I finally gave up, handed the phone to one of my employees 
with Voiceover turned off and it took him all of 10 seconds… accessibility at 
its finest.
All you can do is bitch to Facebook about it, whether it helps I don't know, 
but it certainly will not help if you don't do it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: November 14, 2021 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: I cannot edit in Facebook text boxes

Anyone else having issues editing text boxes in Facebook?  I am frustrated.  
Using the latest version of the app, although I think I’m maybe still on IOS 
14.8.  I have been posting a few things to sell on Facebook and also tried to 
comment on a group thread last night. In each case, I cannot go back and edit 
dictation errors.  Even if I move by character or word, the text cursor is not 
moving so any text I add is at the wrong place.  Double tapping to move my 
cursor to the beginning  or end of the text box doesn’t give me the normal 
feedback either.  Is this a known bug?Anything I’m doing wrong?


Robin

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I cannot edit in Facebook text boxes

[R Van Lant]

Anyone else having issues editing text boxes in Facebook?  I am frustrated.  
Using the latest version of the app, although I think I'm maybe still on IOS 
14.8.  I have been posting a few things to sell on Facebook and also tried to 
comment on a group thread last night. In each case, I cannot go back and edit 
dictation errors.  Even if I move by character or word, the text cursor is not 
moving so any text I add is at the wrong place.  Double tapping to move my 
cursor to the beginning  or end of the text box doesn't give me the normal 
feedback either.  Is this a known bug?Anything I'm doing wrong?


Robin

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RE: Amazon Household

[R Van Lant]

This is so interesting.  My husband holds the primary Amazon prime membership 
for our house and added me as a household member.   We were frustrated the 
other night because a movie I bought on my account wasn’t showing up on our 
firestick. I wonder if this is the way to share it.  Here is what I have found 
so far:

Using the Amazon app:

  1.  Click on Your Amazon tab in bottom of app.
  2.  Click on  Your Account.
  3.  Scroll down and click on Manage Your Household
  4.  Click on Manage Your Family Library
  5.  A section opens with checkboxes for the categories my husband is sharing 
with me and what I am sharing with him.  There is also a link that says we 
should go to in order to  Manage content and devices to control sharing of 
individual titles.

The checkboxes are not labelled up well, so I’m not sure what to click.  I also 
do not see a place to share the digital movies I have purchased, so I’m stuck 
here a bit.  This is where I would probably call Amazon Accessibility. I  just 
tried the Managed content and devices link and that was an even more confusing 
area. I can find the movie I want to share with my husband, but no option to 
share it.  Seems like sharing books is more straight-forward.  Good luck!





Based on the above, I would think that  your wife needs to go to this section 
and allow sharing of her books with you.  Not sure what it looks like  from 
there.  My husband doesn’t do digital books, so I cannot test it.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
blindfait...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 5:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon Household

Hello,

Is there anyone on the list who has had any luck with setting up Amazon 
Household. If you do not know what  this is I will try and explain it.

Amazon Household is a way of sharing your prime benefits with a spouse or 
partner and up to four children. With this service you can share all your Prime 
movie and tv content as well as your Kindle and Audible books. If you live in a 
home in which you and your partner both have separate Amazon Prime account such 
as my wife and I do, with this service you will be able to remove one of those 
Prime accounts so that you will only have to pay for one.

With Amazon Household each member still uses their own Amazon account to make 
purchases, but the members share all payment methods assign to said accounts, 
so you must make sure that you trust whomever you add as a Household member

I hope that I explained that well enough. Now onto the issue that I have had 
with getting this set up.

I created an Amazon Household account for my wife and I so that we could get 
rid of one of our Prime accounts to save a little money.

Now I can’t seem to figure out how to get everything set up so that I can view 
her Audible books so that I can get one from her account so that I can listen 
to it. I know that I could simply log into her Audible account in the Audible 
app, but because I am a big geek, I would really like to try and do it through 
Amazon Household so that I can see how it works.

If anyone on the list uses this service will you please let me know how you got 
everything set up? I am not sure if the problem I am having is an accessibility 
problem, or if it is just me not quite understanding how it is suppose to work.

Thank You,


Scott
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RE: Deleting defunct account from Mail

[R Van Lant]

Bill,
Go to Settings, then flick down to Mail.  Double tap and In this area, you'll 
see the various accounts you have set up and you should be able to delete the 
defunct account in there.


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Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 6:37 AM
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Subject: Deleting defunct account from Mail

Should be a simple task, but I am not sure where to go to do this, or how to go 
about it. 
I need to remove an account from Mail that I recently canceled. 
Bill Outman 


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RE: how do you block texts

[R Van Lant]

I recently had one of these group texts from a spammer to those of us with 
similar phone numbers. I found it best just to Hide alerts for this group chat, 
as various people who were spammed on the same text would reply with "stop" and 
other such notes.  In your messages inbox, flick up till you hear Hide alerts 
and this will at least keep them from showing up in notifications.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do you block texts

I have a strange group message that I want to block. These directions never led 
me to block. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Gallik
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: how do you block texts

Hi All,

That is certainly one of several ways to block text messages from a specified 
source.  There are at least two more ways to do this:

1)  Provided the sender you want to block is in your Contacts, open the Phone 
app, select the “Contacts” tab at the bottom, locate the offending contact and 
open it, activate the “Edit” button and finally locate and activate the “Block” 
button at the bottom of the contact dialog.

2) Or you can open “Settings” and activate the “Phone” item.  Then locate and 
activate the “Block Senders” button, in the resulting dialog locate and 
activate the “Add” button and then simply fill in the telephone number you 
desire to block.

Seems like there ought to be a simpler way to do this.  I’ve done this using 
both above methods and the method Dan suggested enough times that it seems easy 
enough to me until I start giving written instructions!!!  YIKES


* * * * * * * * * * * *
- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "Vision without action is daydream. Action without vision is nightmare."
- Japanese Proverb




On Oct 26, 2021, at 7:37 AM, Dan mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com> > wrote:


Ok, I figured this one out.  the user guide does not explain it fully 
so I was confused.




to do this you first have to open a text conversation.  You next double 
tap on the name/phone number at the top of the screen.  This will bring up a 
list of choices.  The user guide says to scroll down and click on the "block 
this sender" button.  This is not correct because this choice doesn't show up 
in this list.  You should find the "More info" button and click on it at this 
point.  You will now see a list of choices which does include the block button. 
  Double tap this button and you will be prompted for your confirmation of 
blocking or canceling.




I have already alerted the Apple folks about this deficiency in the 
user guide.







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RE: Trouble with Bank of America app

[R Van Lant]

I’m still on IOS 14.8 and also could not log into my B of A app a couple weeks 
ago.  I could use the same credentials to log into the website, so I know my 
info was right.  I also could not paste from my password vault, so it’s 
something with the login screen accessibility.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Outman
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 7:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Trouble with Bank of America app

Hi, list.
I am trying to log into my Bank of America app on my 8 Plus using iOS 15,, and 
am finding it frustrating.

I got the on line account set up anew at my local branch last month and finally 
got the courage to try to log in by mself after reading the terms of service 
agreement.

So I tried to enter what I thought was the user ID and password and could not 
consistently put myself in the edit boxes with my Bluetooth keyboard, nor could 
I find an on screen keyboard when I turned the Bluetooth off, I know sometimes 
sites and apps can be picky about requiring the on screen keyboard.

Occasionally I could get into the fields and get the bonks instead of clicks we 
have discussed before, and noted the log in button showing as dimmed as we have 
noted as well, but at one point I got a notice the password or ID didn’t match 
what was on file, and I had only a couple tries left.  So I used the forgot 
password section and eventually got sent to me an authorization code to reset, 
but those edit boxes were difficult to get into as well.  All the while I am 
having trouble finding the continue button when it’s required.  I didn’t find 
the send request button right away when it was time for the code to be sent to 
me.

I did get that entered eventually, and I could have just changed the password, 
but I went back and again tried what I believed I knew to be the password.

At least I confirmed I was using the correct user ID, but when I enter the log 
in screen it is showing me something elsd that was probably the old ID which 
was under a different email, and I can’t seem to get that edited out.

I’m unsure as to whether to check the box for save ID, I believe it is, and 
maybe that’s part of the problem too, the old ID may hae been saved someplace.

I’ve been getting the email alerts since I set up the ID last month, but I am 
really wanting to customize alerts and look over recent transactions, as I have 
had some trouble with some unexplained overdraws of late.  I’d even like to try 
their voice assistant, if it works well with using VoiceOver.

I did get an email saying my user ID had been looked up, giving a phone number 
to call for trouble logging in.  I am hesitant to call it, as I am not sure how 
much experience they would have dealing with a blind person using VoiceOver.

On one positive note, I deposited a check through an ATM for the first time, 
though I had to help since I didn’t have ear buds with me to activate the 
speech.  If I hadn’t been able to do that, my finances would have beeneven 
worse.

Bill Outman

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RE: new mispronunciation in 14.8; is it fixed in 15?

[R Van Lant]

So weird!  Interesting that some of us get it and others do not. Apple 
Accessibility wrote back to me today and were unable to reproduce the issue. 
They asked iabout language settings. I’m going to read through the email and 
check what they suggest. I do not knowingly have any different languages 
installed.   Since I’m still apprehensive about the potential bug in the app 
switcher in IOS 15, I’m not willing to upgrade yet.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new mispronunciation in 14.8; is it fixed in 15?

So after reading the posts about the new  pronunciation in ios 14.8, I tried it 
out yesterday and I encountered the mispronunciation. I had not used the words 
north Carolina or South Carolina recently so had not discovered the problem. I 
am using the regular siri samanatha voice.
However, when I tried to duplicate the issue today, Voiceover pronounced the 
words correctly.
So perhaps Apple fixed the issue? Is anyone else still encountering this 
mispronunciation today?


On Sep 28, 2021, at 9:22 PM, Donna Casteen 
mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I use Samantha Enhanced. I have not had the pronunciation problem in IOS 14.8 
nor IOS 15 that you described. Most of the pronunciation problems with Samantha 
Enhanced have been fix. The 2 words that haven't been corrected by Apple that I 
have come across so far are: onto said as onta & defeat said as defeaturing.

Donna

Hi, I just sent the below to apple accessibility.  Curious if any of you have 
noticed it and if it’s fixed in IOS 15.

Since updating to IOS 14.8, I noticed a very strange mispronunciation.  I first 
saw it with reading an email from Southwest  Airlines using VoiceOver. Then I 
noticed it when reading a news story in Newsify where  the article mentioned 
South Carolina. This happens using Samantha and Samantha Enhanced and wit Siri 
#1 and Siri #4.  It did not occur when I switched to Alex.

Examples:
“South Carolina:   - If I read by word, it reads correctly.  If I read by line 
or continuous reading, it just says something like “Saw ja tee” and won’t even 
say “Carolina”.  If I ask Siri for the capital of S.C., she will mispronounce 
“South” the same way, but will say “Carolina”.

South Pacific:  VoiceOver will mispronounce “South” as above, but will 
correctly say Pacific when reading by line or continuously

When I type “Southwest”,,   it is reading it correctly, but was not reading it 
correctly on the header for my email from Southwest Airlines. It sounds like it 
is saying “saw ja tee west”.

This could be fixed in IOS 15, but I haven’t upgraded yet, having heard about a 
VoiceOver bug in the App switcher.
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new mispronunciation in 14.8; is it fixed in 15?

[R Van Lant]

Hi, I just sent the below to apple accessibility.  Curious if any of you have 
noticed it and if it's fixed in IOS 15.

Since updating to IOS 14.8, I noticed a very strange mispronunciation.  I first 
saw it with reading an email from Southwest  Airlines using VoiceOver. Then I 
noticed it when reading a news story in Newsify where  the article mentioned 
South Carolina. This happens using Samantha and Samantha Enhanced and wit Siri 
#1 and Siri #4.  It did not occur when I switched to Alex.

Examples:
"South Carolina:   - If I read by word, it reads correctly.  If I read by line 
or continuous reading, it just says something like "Saw ja tee" and won't even 
say "Carolina".  If I ask Siri for the capital of S.C., she will mispronounce 
"South" the same way, but will say "Carolina".

South Pacific:  VoiceOver will mispronounce "South" as above, but will 
correctly say Pacific when reading by line or continuously

When I type "Southwest",,   it is reading it correctly, but was not reading it 
correctly on the header for my email from Southwest Airlines. It sounds like it 
is saying "saw ja tee west".

This could be fixed in IOS 15, but I haven't upgraded yet, having heard about a 
VoiceOver bug in the App switcher.

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RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[R Van Lant]

When I had to restore my phone, BARD books had not been backed up to the Cloud. 
So, the best way to find what I wanted was to go into the recently downloaded 
option under Get books and find any book I wanted to add again.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

I don't know how Apple Music handles things, but I know that an iTunes backup 
never backed up music. When I restored from the backup of my iPhone 5 to the 
iPhone six, it had to retrieve the actual music tracks from the music on my 
computer, not from the backup itself. If you are talking about music in Apple 
music, I'll bet those tracks will stream from the cloud, you will have to 
download them again if you want them downloaded. If you are talking about 
tracks that you put onto your phone yourself, it seems that they would have 
been restored from your computer. Otherwise, unless you have iTunes Match and 
they are in the cloud, they are probably gone. I hope not.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
If you’re using Apple Music then What I suspect is that all your albums have 
been restored to your library but their contents have not been downloaded.

I think this is what happened to me although this was some time ago.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 27 Sep 2021, at 15:52, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a lot of downloaded music but it is not showing up.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
I had to upgrade to IOS 15 because that is what came on the new phone I 
purchased.
Amy


If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, general, 
About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.
I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when online, 
as Malcolm said.





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.

If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.

Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.
Malcolm Parfitt

On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.
If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.
You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.
Good luck.
You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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(Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda 
mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 

RE: Question

[R Van Lant]

One basic method for doing this is to put the list of recipients in the BCC 
field. If anyone replies, the Bcc list  is not copied.  Services such as 
Constant Contact are an option.  They provide formatting tools for sending 
newsletters and I think you can set it up for no replied or at least only a 
reply to the original sender.  Our church uses a program to manager our 
directory and it allows this function of sending notices without the ability to 
reply.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question

Hello I am looking for an app that allows someone to send messages only but 
doesn’t allow for members in the group to respond. It is for a church and they 
want to use it for announcements only but want to avoid everyone responding 
causing everyone to receive the responses. If anyone knows if anything like 
this exists please let me know.

Thank you

Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC
Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
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RE: keeping track of which books are on which app

[R Van Lant]

I’m glad I haven’t missed anything obvious.   I signed up to Good Reads only 
because my book group leader wanted to try using it for voting on books, but, 
like someone else said, I have no interest in leaving behind my Excel file 
where I have my notes and opinion of the books I have read. I’ll have to 
consider adding some notes or a new tab.  I think I do have a tab on that file 
for books that have been recommended to me, so maybe that would be a way to 
build out a list of what I have and other options.




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Subject: RE: keeping track of which books are on which app

I’d add a tab to your current spreadsheet to list downloaded books with a 
column as to where they are.  Then when you finish one, you simply move that 
row to the done tab.

Sherry Wells

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Lant
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keeping track of which books are on which app

Hi,
Probably my favorite reason for having an iPhone  is the plethora of accessible 
books  across so many apps.  Of course, that also means that I have books in 
various apps and I’m now finding that I can easily  lose track of where a  book 
is.  To be more specific, I have Audible, Kindle, Voice Dream Reader, Christian 
Audio, Chirp  and BARD.  I’ve occasionally found that I’ve almost purchased a 
book in Audible,  forgetting that I had already found it on BARD.  Or, I 
download a book someone recommends to me or that I find on sale, then forget 
which app it’s in.   Some of  you talk about having hundreds of books on your 
phone.  Anyone found any great ways to keep track of what you have downloaded?  
 I will say that I’m not one to keep a book on my device once I’ve read it. I 
keep an Excel spreadsheet with books I’ve read and what I thought of them, and 
recently added a note as to which app I read it on, but this doesn’t help me 
with books I have yet to read.Just interested if anyone has any great ideas 
on ways to link everything into one list or something.

Robin with an iPhone SE 2020
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[R Van Lant]

Hi,
Probably my favorite reason for having an iPhone  is the plethora of accessible 
books  across so many apps.  Of course, that also means that I have books in 
various apps and I'm now finding that I can easily  lose track of where a  book 
is.  To be more specific, I have Audible, Kindle, Voice Dream Reader, Christian 
Audio, Chirp  and BARD.  I've occasionally found that I've almost purchased a 
book in Audible,  forgetting that I had already found it on BARD.  Or, I 
download a book someone recommends to me or that I find on sale, then forget 
which app it's in.   Some of  you talk about having hundreds of books on your 
phone.  Anyone found any great ways to keep track of what you have downloaded?  
 I will say that I'm not one to keep a book on my device once I've read it. I 
keep an Excel spreadsheet with books I've read and what I thought of them, and 
recently added a note as to which app I read it on, but this doesn't help me 
with books I have yet to read.Just interested if anyone has any great ideas 
on ways to link everything into one list or something.

Robin with an iPhone SE 2020

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RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

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Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, I 
had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
approach.




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Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive wireless 
charger.
Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, I'd go 
that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.
So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the info again 
on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.


Richard
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On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:00 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:

I had a lightning splitter that allowed me to charge my phone while using the 
wired earbuds.   I think I got it as a free gift from Mystic Access a couple 
years ago. I recall that I’d get a onscreen notice  that it was not a supported 
device when I used to plug it in.  Nevertheless, , over time, I guess, the 
thing no longer works to charge my phone.  I can plug it in and hear via my 
earbuds, but something must have  happened to the part that connects to my 
power cord, as it won’t charge.  I’d like to find another such device and 
haven’t found one on A.T. Guys or Mystic  Access.  Given the warning I used to 
get, am I better off going to Apple to get one of these or does someone have a 
recommendation of one I can get. Heck, I’d probably get a couple so I can leave 
them near each of my various power cords.   Using an iPhone SE 2020.


Robin

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splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[R Van Lant]

I had a lightning splitter that allowed me to charge my phone while using the 
wired earbuds.   I think I got it as a free gift from Mystic Access a couple 
years ago. I recall that I'd get a onscreen notice  that it was not a supported 
device when I used to plug it in.  Nevertheless, , over time, I guess, the 
thing no longer works to charge my phone.  I can plug it in and hear via my 
earbuds, but something must have  happened to the part that connects to my 
power cord, as it won't charge.  I'd like to find another such device and 
haven't found one on A.T. Guys or Mystic  Access.  Given the warning I used to 
get, am I better off going to Apple to get one of these or does someone have a 
recommendation of one I can get. Heck, I'd probably get a couple so I can leave 
them near each of my various power cords.   Using an iPhone SE 2020.


Robin

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RE: KeePass Touch app issue

[R Van Lant]

Alan,
I finally found how to add DropBox.  Not sure I could articulate how, but I 
found a place under the add button where I had to enable DropBox as an option, 
then navigate to it to find the file. Obviously, the Help file is way out of 
date.  I was not prompted for synching options, but found a place in the Gear 
icon where I could turn on auto-synching.  I’ll have to add a password on my 
laptop and see if it does sync to my phone.

Glad to be up and running again.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 9:39 PM
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Subject: RE: KeePass Touch app issue

Robin,

The Sync button is no longer there regardless of what the Help section says. My 
database is still accessed through the Files button and it is located in one of 
my Dropbox folders so hopefully you can access yours that way too. If not, 
hopefully you’ll get a reply to your support request.

Alan

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Subject: RE: KeePass Touch app issue

Alan,
I updated my app and see no difference.  The hep section still talks about a 
sync button and even that it should be the second button from  the left, but 
I’m not finding it.  I send them an email through the feedback link under 
Settings, We’ll see if they respond.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: KeePass Touch app issue

Hi Robin,

I no longer see the sync button either on the bottomline toolbar. But I'm also 
running version 1.12 of Keepass Touch so you might check the App Store for the 
latest update. I'd suggest after you update that you check out the settings and 
you'll hopefully be able to reconnect to your master database on Dropbox.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of R Van 
Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 6:21:29 PM
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: KeePass Touch app issue


Hi,

Question for others using the KeePass Touch app.  I’m on version 1.11.8 on and 
iphone SE 2020 running latest IOS.



I sync my password vault to my laptop with DropBox.  I’ve had this set up for 
almost a year.  I recently opened my KeePass Touch app and it showed that my 
master file had not been updated on my phone since around May.  I did not know 
how to update it, so I deleted the file, thinking I would just have  KeePass go 
out to DropBox and open the file, just as I’d done in the past.  Strangely, now 
I cannot find how to do this to save my life.  The help file says to click on 
the Sync button and even says it is the second from  the left, which is what I 
thought I’d done in t the past , but I cannot find the Sync button.  The app 
screen says to tap  the add button to open a file, but, when I do that, it’s 
showing me iCloud and I cannot find any way to navigate to DropBox.  I’m 
stumped.  Any one out there do this recently  and know what I could be missing?



Robin




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RE: KeePass Touch app issue

[R Van Lant]

Alan,
I updated my app and see no difference.  The hep section still talks about a 
sync button and even that it should be the second button from  the left, but 
I’m not finding it.  I send them an email through the feedback link under 
Settings, We’ll see if they respond.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KeePass Touch app issue

Hi Robin,

I no longer see the sync button either on the bottomline toolbar. But I'm also 
running version 1.12 of Keepass Touch so you might check the App Store for the 
latest update. I'd suggest after you update that you check out the settings and 
you'll hopefully be able to reconnect to your master database on Dropbox.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of R Van 
Lant 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 6:21:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: KeePass Touch app issue


Hi,

Question for others using the KeePass Touch app.  I’m on version 1.11.8 on and 
iphone SE 2020 running latest IOS.



I sync my password vault to my laptop with DropBox.  I’ve had this set up for 
almost a year.  I recently opened my KeePass Touch app and it showed that my 
master file had not been updated on my phone since around May.  I did not know 
how to update it, so I deleted the file, thinking I would just have  KeePass go 
out to DropBox and open the file, just as I’d done in the past.  Strangely, now 
I cannot find how to do this to save my life.  The help file says to click on 
the Sync button and even says it is the second from  the left, which is what I 
thought I’d done in t the past , but I cannot find the Sync button.  The app 
screen says to tap  the add button to open a file, but, when I do that, it’s 
showing me iCloud and I cannot find any way to navigate to DropBox.  I’m 
stumped.  Any one out there do this recently  and know what I could be missing?



Robin




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RE: what are vlc and TVU

[R Van Lant]

VLC Media player is a free program you can download. You can play music and 
videos on it.  I installed it on my Windows laptop, as I'd heard it was 
accessible with JAWS.


-Original Message-
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Johnson
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: what are vlc and TVU

I found a website of old tv shows that said it  can be played on a mac with a 
vl c player or on an ipad, phone or ipod with tvu.


Does any one know what these initials stand for?  How would I know if my 
devices had such things?

Thanks,

Patti

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KeePass Touch app issue

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
Question for others using the KeePass Touch app.  I'm on version 1.11.8 on and 
iphone SE 2020 running latest IOS.

I sync my password vault to my laptop with DropBox.  I've had this set up for 
almost a year.  I recently opened my KeePass Touch app and it showed that my 
master file had not been updated on my phone since around May.  I did not know 
how to update it, so I deleted the file, thinking I would just have  KeePass go 
out to DropBox and open the file, just as I'd done in the past.  Strangely, now 
I cannot find how to do this to save my life.  The help file says to click on 
the Sync button and even says it is the second from  the left, which is what I 
thought I'd done in t the past , but I cannot find the Sync button.  The app 
screen says to tap  the add button to open a file, but, when I do that, it's 
showing me iCloud and I cannot find any way to navigate to DropBox.  I'm 
stumped.  Any one out there do this recently  and know what I could be missing?

Robin


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RE: Are bard mobile download books saved in an iPhone back up?

[R Van Lant]

Once I read a book on BARD, I delete it, so I don't have many on my phone at a 
given time, but when I had to reset my phone and lost all the BARD downloads, I 
used the Recent Downloads option in the Find Books tab to more easily find and 
redownload the books I wanted to put on my phone. 


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Subject: Are bard mobile download books saved in an iPhone back up?

If you back up your iPhone to iCloud and then get a new iPhone and restore from 
iCloud, will all of your saved barred mobile books transfer over? I’m actually 
asking for a friend who is having serious problems with his phone and not being 
able to see any of his bard books. He was thinking about getting a new phone.


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RE: is there an advantage to BARD Express?

[R Van Lant]

Thank you all.   Glad I asked this question  I will likely download the app 
soon and give it a whirl.  One of my favorite features in the BARD mobile  app 
is that you can flick up on a book and pull up other books by the author or in 
that category, etc.  This has been my new way to look for books in a series or 
by the same author, but I think there will be times when I'm looking for 
specific books that the  BARD express app and my laptop keyboard  will be the 
preferred way.



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Subject: Re: is there an advantage to BARD Express?

Robin, I use bard express all the time to quickly add books to my wish list so 
I can later download them to my iPhone.  If you use bard express to do your 
searches, one advantage is, you can use your computers keyboard to execute your 
search.  Once you've found your book, or books you want to add to your wish 
list, just, hit the spacebar to check each book you want to be added to your 
wish list.
Just then hit the tab key where you will hear add to wish list.  Hit enter and 
there you go.  Another advantage of bard express, is the list of book series on 
bard.  Say, I wanted to read the Dirk Pitt series by Clive Cussler.  I want the 
entire series to be added to my wish list, so, I can just read one book and 
download each book after finishing the previous one.  I open bard express and 
hit control g and wait for the program to bring up the series list.  I use 
first letter navigation to quickly find Dirk Pitt series.  After I hit enter, I 
now see the 25 books in the series.  I then just hit control a to select all 25 
titles.  By selecting all 25 titles, I have automatically checked all the books 
I wanted to be added to my wish list all at once.  I don't have to sit and hit 
my spacebar 25 times to check all
25 books.  I then tab to add to wish list, hit enter and very quickly, I now 
have the entire Dirk Pitt series added to my wish list, ready to be downloaded 
on my iPhone.  All these steps may sound like a lot of work, but it is really 
simple.  I often use bard express to add the books to my wish list every time I 
check for recently added books.

On 7/3/21, R Van Lant  wrote:
> I only listened to BARD books via the BARD app on my iPhone.  I do my 
> searches via the app and access my Wish List that way.  I thought I 
> heard people excited about BARD Express, but the download page makes 
> it sound like it's main benefit is to those who are downloading books 
> to their PC and/or USB drive.  Is there any benefit to use the BARD 
> app if I will not be downloading to my laptop?  Does it make adding 
> and managint my wish list easier?  That's the only reason I can think 
> of what benefit it would give me.  Admittedly, searches for books on 
> my phone can be a bit tedious, but the phone is usually in my hand when I 
> think of a book I want to search for.
>  Just  not wanting to miss out on something that makes life easier, 
> but no need to add another thing to my list if ti's not adding much value.
>
> Robin
> iPhone SE 2020
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is there an advantage to BARD Express?

[R Van Lant]

I only listened to BARD books via the BARD app on my iPhone.  I do my searches 
via the app and access my Wish List that way.  I thought I heard people excited 
about BARD Express, but the download page makes it sound like it's main benefit 
is to those who are downloading books to their PC and/or USB drive.  Is there 
any benefit to use the BARD app if I will not be downloading to my laptop?  
Does it make adding and managint my wish list easier?  That's the only reason I 
can think of what benefit it would give me.  Admittedly, searches for books on 
my phone can be a bit tedious, but the phone is usually in my hand when I think 
of a book I want to search for.  Just  not wanting to miss out on something 
that makes life easier, but no need to add another thing to my list if ti's not 
adding much value.

Robin
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RE: indoor navigation do-it-yourself?

[R Van Lant]

I agree that Nivilens is meant for this. You can print off your own set labels 
or contact them about having your building labelled.  I listened to an Eyes on 
success podcast that interviewed a teacher at a school for the blind where the 
students labelled many aspects of the building.


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Subject: indoor navigation do-it-yourself?

There has been a lot of talk about indoor  navigation. I’m not optimistic about 
this, but just in case: Is there an app or procedure I can use to label offices 
and other locations in my serpentine medical building so I can navigate to them 
independently the next time?

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

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RE: Strange Text Message Notification Issue

[R Van Lant]

I've missed a number of text messages recently. I'll have to watch for a 
pattern.  I think I'm getting all my call, The only calls I have missed are 
those that are likely spam. I just changed a setting to send all unknown 
callers to voicemail.  With this setting, I did not hear the ;phone ring, but 
got my normal voicemail indicator tone.






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Subject: Re: Strange Text Message Notification Issue

Seeing that others are experiencing the lack of alert tones & the phone not 
ringing with incoming calls- The problem started after I installed the most 
recent IOS update, 14.4.1. Anyone else notice this as a possible bug in this 
version of IOS.

Donna
 
> 
> This has been happening to me as of late, but mine goes a little further. My 
> phone sometimes doesn't ring when a call comes in. I'll notice the badge 
> telling me that I have two new items in phone which will be the missed call 
> and the voice mail message they left. This has been happening a lot as of 
> late. And it also happens with text messages as well. It seems to be the 
> native apps and not other apps like whatsapp and signal. Those sounds for 
> those apps always come through.
> 
>> On 3/18/2021 2:31 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I just had my wife send me a text while listening to a book in Voice Dream 
>> Reader.  VoiceOver announced the text message, but there was no text sound.
>> 
>> Do yu have VoiceOver set to not speak notifications?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of K. 
>> Scott Carlson
>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Strange Text Message Notification Issue
>> 
>> I am finding that when I am in an app that plays media, like Youtube or 
>> VoiceDream, and the screen is unlocked, I do not receive any notifications 
>> of text messages I am receiving. Is this a bug, and has anyone else 
>> encountered it?
>> 
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disabling media control on locked screen -- or something like that

[R Van Lant]

Not sure if the subject line really captures what I'm trying to ask.  Hoping 
someone can save my sanity.  I rarely listen to the very few music files on my 
phone. I don't want to delete them, but I get really annoyed how they often 
actually start playing.  For example, if I'm listening to a book on BARD, I can 
use the remote on my earbuds to start and stop the book, But if I wait just a 
bit too long, then press play, music will start playing.  Also, each time I 
plug in my earbuds or a USB cable in our car to play a book through our car 
speakers, music is the default and starts blaring.   If I'm listening actively 
to an Audibl book, that will be the default thing that plays sometimes, which 
can mean I miss part of the book if I wasn't aware it started playing.  Is 
there any way to change this default with the media control?  If so, is there a 
trade off to doing so, given that I rarely listen to music?

Using iPhone  SE 2020 with IOS 14.4.
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RE: Is Voxer accessible?

[R Van Lant]

No I don't  think this is the same.  I'm not familiar with Voxer.


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Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 7:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Is Voxer accessible?

Hi,


It’s an app that gives you access to remote coaches. Is that the same thing 
that you’re referring to? It could be an email program, but I wasn’t sure if it 
was texting, emails, or what.

Thanks,

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 4:09 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> Do you mean VMWare Boxer, the email app?  If so, it seems OK so far for the 
> email, but I'm not liking the calendar function interface. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Is Voxer accessible?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As a subject line says, is this app accessible? My understanding is this is 
> an app, not a computer program. But, does it work with voiceover?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Beth
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RE: Is Voxer accessible?

[R Van Lant]

Do you mean VMWare Boxer, the email app?  If so, it seems OK so far for the 
email, but I'm not liking the calendar function interface. 
 

-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is Voxer accessible?

Hi,

As a subject line says, is this app accessible? My understanding is this is an 
app, not a computer program. But, does it work with voiceover?

Thank you,

Beth

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Question for other Way Around tag users

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I have started doing more  with  Way Around tags to supplement my Braille 
labeling, especially with clothes and items in my freezer.  I'm getting the 
hang of the angle for holding my phone to the NFC reader to pick up the tag.  
It's still a bit slow when I have a number of things I want to scan, so I've 
toyed with getting the WayLink accessory.  It looks really handy when you are 
trying to read a bunch of labels to find something specific.  I guess my 
question is whether  others have found it useful. It strikes me that it's  just 
one more thing that I have to keep track of.  They offer it with a belt clip, 
but I don't imagine it's something I want to neceesarily wear around all day 
since I'm not reading Way Tags all day. I guess another option is to have one 
of those business card holders affixed to my phone where I could store it, but 
that adds bulk to my phone. you do have to have your  phone close by anyway to 
hear VoiceOver read the tag labels aloud.So,  really curious to hear from 
anyone else who has this gadget and what you've found useful or annoying about 
it.

Thanks,
iPhone SE 2020

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RE: my name in Zoom meetings

[R Van Lant]

I appreciate Lynn’s tip to change the name and also think that Deb has 
convinced me to make that free account.

Thanks all,
Robin


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb Cook 
Lewis
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: my name in Zoom meetings

Yes, if you do not have a name, Zoom will ask you to enter your name and email 
to authenticate that you’re not a robot.
You do not actually have to enter your email, just something that looks like 
one. So it must contain an at sign and a period. I have often used 
d...@d.com<mailto:d...@d.com> which is definitely not an email address, let 
alone mine. I do take the trouble to write at least my first name so I won’t be 
iPhone.
If you do this in the Zoom app, it can actually remember you if you check a box 
foer that. You can do this without an account.
The supreme advantage to creating a free account is that you can actually save 
lots of useful settings including ones for how much zoom chatters. And your 
name will be there once for all. But even without it, you can make the signing 
in process a little easier than it offers to be.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: my name in Zoom meetings

Robin,

I think creating a Zoom account and signing into it on the Zoom app will 
address the issue you posted about.

Alan

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of R Van Lant
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: my name in Zoom meetings

Alan,
I had not created an account, since I was not hosting meetings and was able to 
log in without it. Maybe I need to do this.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
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Subject: RE: my name in Zoom meetings

Robin,

Have you ever created a Zoom account which included your name and logged into 
it with the Zoom app on your iPhone? I did this when I first started using Zoom 
in late 2018 and I'm always identified by my name when I attend Zoom meetings 
using the Zoom Cloud Meetings app on my iPhone.

Alan Lemly

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Behalf Of R Van Lant
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 6:26 PM
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Subject: my name in Zoom meetings

Hi,
As it true for most of us, I’m doing a lot more meeting by Zoom and I often 
attend via  the app on my phone.  If it’s a large group meeting where the 
attendees do not get to unmute, it seems that I’ll get prompted to register and 
enter my display name and email.  My annoyance is for those meetings that are 
more casual where I’m just directly connected to the meeting. In these, my 
display name always comes up as just “iPhone”.  I changed the name of my iPhone 
in IOS Settings to include my name, but this doesn’t carry over to the Zoom.  
Does anyone know how I can change this?  While in a meeting, I cannot find 
anything in settings that ill allow me to change my display name.  If I click 
on the link in an email, the Zoom app loads and I’m not prompted to enter a 
name.  for others who attend via the Zoom app on the phone, have you found a 
way to change this or is this just the default for all iPhone app users?

Robin – iPhone SE2020

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RE: my name in Zoom meetings

[R Van Lant]

Alan,
I had not created an account, since I was not hosting meetings and was able to 
log in without it. Maybe I need to do this.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: my name in Zoom meetings

Robin,

Have you ever created a Zoom account which included your name and logged into 
it with the Zoom app on your iPhone? I did this when I first started using Zoom 
in late 2018 and I'm always identified by my name when I attend Zoom meetings 
using the Zoom Cloud Meetings app on my iPhone.

Alan Lemly

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Van Lant
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 6:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: my name in Zoom meetings

Hi,
As it true for most of us, I’m doing a lot more meeting by Zoom and I often 
attend via  the app on my phone.  If it’s a large group meeting where the 
attendees do not get to unmute, it seems that I’ll get prompted to register and 
enter my display name and email.  My annoyance is for those meetings that are 
more casual where I’m just directly connected to the meeting. In these, my 
display name always comes up as just “iPhone”.  I changed the name of my iPhone 
in IOS Settings to include my name, but this doesn’t carry over to the Zoom.  
Does anyone know how I can change this?  While in a meeting, I cannot find 
anything in settings that ill allow me to change my display name.  If I click 
on the link in an email, the Zoom app loads and I’m not prompted to enter a 
name.  for others who attend via the Zoom app on the phone, have you found a 
way to change this or is this just the default for all iPhone app users?

Robin – iPhone SE2020

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my name in Zoom meetings

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
As it true for most of us, I'm doing a lot more meeting by Zoom and I often 
attend via  the app on my phone.  If it's a large group meeting where the 
attendees do not get to unmute, it seems that I'll get prompted to register and 
enter my display name and email.  My annoyance is for those meetings that are 
more casual where I'm just directly connected to the meeting. In these, my 
display name always comes up as just "iPhone".  I changed the name of my iPhone 
in IOS Settings to include my name, but this doesn't carry over to the Zoom.  
Does anyone know how I can change this?  While in a meeting, I cannot find 
anything in settings that ill allow me to change my display name.  If I click 
on the link in an email, the Zoom app loads and I'm not prompted to enter a 
name.  for others who attend via the Zoom app on the phone, have you found a 
way to change this or is this just the default for all iPhone app users?

Robin - iPhone SE2020

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RE: Zoom and iPhone question

[R Van Lant]

That’s what I figured, Richard.  Bummer.  I raised my hand for about 20 
minutes, then realized they weren’t’ going to acknowledge me. In this large of 
a webinar, they wanted to control the Q by chat message on only.  I’ll have 
to be prepared with the keyboard next time.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Zoom and iPhone question

Dictate didn’t work because the microphone was taken over for the zoom call.
You have to use a keyboard, braille display or Bluetooth qwerty to send a chat 
message.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Zoom and iPhone question

Hi,
I like to attend Zoom calls from my phone quite often. I just attended one this 
morning that was in webinar format where I could not unmute to ask a question 
of a panel.  They wanted us to use the Q feature. I can get to this area, but 
my question was long and I had hoped to dictate it, but dictate won’t work 
while on the call.  Any work arounds you can think of this this?  On the fly, I 
tried to log into the call from my laptop to ask my question, but couldn’t’ get 
it loaded in time.  Next time,  I’ll try to have a Bluetooth keyboard 
available, but just curious why dictate couldn’t work and if there is anything 
you’ve done in this situation.

Robin with SE 2020 on IOS 14


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Zoom and iPhone question

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I like to attend Zoom calls from my phone quite often. I just attended one this 
morning that was in webinar format where I could not unmute to ask a question 
of a panel.  They wanted us to use the Q feature. I can get to this area, but 
my question was long and I had hoped to dictate it, but dictate won't work 
while on the call.  Any work arounds you can think of this this?  On the fly, I 
tried to log into the call from my laptop to ask my question, but couldn't' get 
it loaded in time.  Next time,  I'll try to have a Bluetooth keyboard 
available, but just curious why dictate couldn't work and if there is anything 
you've done in this situation.

Robin with SE 2020 on IOS 14


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RE: Is anyone else having problems with photo descriptions linking to the wrong photos in IOS 14.3?

[R Van Lant]

Yes. I had only labeled two photos and thee labels are not where they should 
be.  For the first one, I labelled a photo that I had received in a text and 
saved to my camera roll.  It was the last photo in recents when I labelled it.  
Even after I took more photos, the last one in the camera roll was still 
reading out with the label for the one I'd gotten from a relative, not the 
actual one.  When I look today, the last photo no longer has that label, nor 
can I even find that photo with the label.  

For the second one, I took a picture of my kids on their first day of school in 
August and labelled it so I could send it to family. The label I made is 
currently voicing on a photo I took in December.  I scrolled back up to the 
date when I took the school photo, and the label is not there, but the provided 
description matches two kids standing outside for the photo.  

I've now forgotten the gesture to label photos, so I cannot play with this, but 
I'll report it to Apple.  Sure glad I did not bother labeling more photos. 





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From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 12:14 AM
To: VIphone 
Subject: Is anyone else having problems with photo descriptions linking to the 
wrong photos in IOS 14.3?

Hi all 

Just wondering if anyone else is having this problem? Up to fairly recently, 
when I've put descriptions on my photos, they've all been fine and have stayed 
with the right photos. However, since updating to IOS14.3 my photo descriptions 
seem to have gone mad and have started attaching themselves to completely 
random photos. So when I've thought I was showing someone one picture it's 
actually been something totally different. With sighted help I've tried 
re-labelling them all, but it's not worked, as the descriptions have just gone 
and relocated themselves again. 

So just wondered if anyone else has been having this/similar issues? If so, 
does anyone know of a way of fixing it? 

Thanks for any help in advance. 

Eleanor 

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RE: Tracker for dogs?

[R Van Lant]

Reggie,

I was waiting to see if anyone else had an idea before I chimed in.  I wonder 
if the TrackR app would work.  From what I understand, you havethe app on your 
phone and attach small beacons to your items, such as the dog collar.  It's 
meant to help you find misplaced keys and such or I heard the idea of blind 
users putting on luggage.  I think that you can use the app to ping the item 
and make it produce a sound, but there is something about a TrackR network that 
will help you find items that are out of range that you've lost.  That leads me 
to believe that there is some sort of maping aspect to it.  Anyway, here is the 
website so you can check it out.  

http://trackrofficial.com/


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Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 2:47 PM
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Subject: Tracker for dogs?

Hi, I will take the chance on this, though I figure nobody has used one of 
these. I am looking for a tracking device for my phone for tracking two dogs. I 
would like it to be accessible but failing that one I can show to someone else 
who can then track them. If someone has used one of these please let me know. 
Thank you in advance. Appreciated.


Reggie Alvarado 

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RE: has anyone ever used any of the speed dots screen protectors for their iPhone?

[R Van Lant]

I had them on my first two iPhones and planned to get one for my newest phone, 
but haven't done it yet.  I really appreciated them to make finding certain 
common buttons, such as Back, Send, and such quicker.  I find now that my 
figers have the muscle memory on my new phone, since it's the same size as the 
old one I had with Speed dots, so I haven't gotten a new overlay yet, but it's 
a nice screen protector that adds functionality.  They have two models that 
differ in how many bumps are on the keyboard area.  I think I preferred the one 
that had fewer dots, only marking the F and J keys and a few others.  The other 
model has a bump for almost all the letters, except for the F and J and, while 
this was good when I was first learning, it wasn't necessary for me or kind of 
tickled my finger to have so many bumps, especially in other apps that are not 
using the keyboard.  If you feel like it will help, it's a small investment and 
gives you a screen protector to boot. 






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Subject: has anyone ever used any of the speed dots screen protectors for their 
iPhone?

Hi to all.  I was checking out the latest issue of the top tech tidbits email 
and I heard a mention of speed dots screen protectors for the iPhone.  They 
don't yet have one's for the newest iPhones the
12 series, but they do have one's for the iPhone 8, which is what I have.  I 
don't know if I would really need one or not, but they do sound interesting.  
What do you all think?  Does anyone who has used one, like it?  Thanks for any 
advice.
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RE: has anyone ever used any of the speed dots screen protectors for their iPhone?

[R Van Lant]

You can also buy them at www.ATguys.com



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Subject: Re: has anyone ever used any of the speed dots screen protectors for 
their iPhone?

I believe the website is www.speeddots.com.

On 12/10/20, lindac.knight via VIPhone  wrote:
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> I would like to try the speed dots. Where can I get them?
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RE: Since bard update can’t access

[R Van Lant]

 I got the failure pop-up this morning after upgrading, but once I clicked OK, 
it went right to my book and I've been reading.  



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Subject: Since bard update can’t access

Is anyone else having this problem? It happens on all my devices: I get a 
message saying failed followed by OK, which I double tap on, but then come to 
see that no books are showing up in my bookshelf, wish list, or previous 
downloads, and I’m not recognized on the website.

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new issue in Facebook app

[R Van Lant]

I'm running into something new that I cannot figure out on the Facebook app.  
In a couple of my groups, I'm heaing VoiceOver say, for example" Jane Doe asked 
a question in Guide Dog Users".  After some standard date info, Voicover will 
say Tap Community Q and A post". I can head a comment about this, but I cannot 
figure out how to read what the question was and the answers provided.  Double 
tapping on the post does not open the post like it does with other posts in the 
same group.  Has anyone figured this out?

SE 2020 running IOS 14.2 and latest version of Facebook.

Robin


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