Update on Verizon prepaid plan pricing and my apology to the list

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Folks,

 

I have to apologize because I posted some incorrect Verizon prepaid plan
pricing info within the Shopping for mobile plans thread. I was being told
by Voiceover in the Verizon mobile app that the price of the 5GB prepaid
plan was $30 per month and used to be $40 per month. That same plan screen
told me the price of the 15GB prepaid plan was $40 per month and used to be
$50 per month. I did not realize that those quoted prices were reflecting
discounts I currently get on my plan, $5 for autopay and $5 for loyalty.
Verizon has never reflected discounts in the plan pricing I've been quoted
in the past and I made an assumption that the starting plan price had been
reduced by $10 per month and as the old adage says, made an ass of myself. I
apologize for any confusion caused.

 

I believe I have a keen understanding of the Verizon prepaid plans and their
available data and discounts so if anyone has specific questions, I'd love
an opportunity to make up for the misinformation. The nice thing about
Verizon prepaid plans is that you can change them once every billing cycle
without any problem.

 

Again, I apologize for any confusion caused.

 

Alan Lemly

 

 

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RE: Apology

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I don’t’ get it,

Marilyn Asked a simple question which a number  of sensible replys were given,

Marilyn Just remember that real people like yourself and others on this list 
are always going to be happy to help when people need assistance,
Don’t let that reply put you off asking questions,

No question is ever a stupid one,
And as you will probably know, there will most likely be someone else on the 
list wanting to ask the same thing
Feel free to ask any thing would be my suggestion,

For those people like the person who replied with the rude comments, they must 
find life really hard being as perfect as they think they are!

They should prepare themselves to crash hard,
Good luck Marilyn And keep smiling!
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2020 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apology

I have a few points to make on this thread. First is that Marilyn has nothing 
to apologize for, and I hope she doesn’t judge this whole list by a few rude 
members. As anyone can tell, this list is full of members who want to help 
other blind people. But it also can’t keep mean and self righteous people from 
joining the list.

IMHO, the moderator doesn’t need to give this person a second chance before 
kicking them off the list. Marilyn made an honest mistake, but anyone who would 
tell someone else on the list that they don’t have a brain, is just not someone 
who should be given another chance or be allowed on this list.

Finally, I’m on plenty of lists which have nothing to do with blindness and I 
don’t find blindness related lists to have a greater number of rude people on 
it then your average list. I wish it were the case that blind people would 
kinder and more gracious then the general public, but unfortunately this isn’t 
the case. I also don’t think that the opposite is true, and that is that the 
blindness community is more mean spirited or has more rude people in it then 
the general community. I find this to be just another unsubstantiated prejudice 
against blind people.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apology

It would have taken the same amount of energy to just anser the question as 
opposed to making that comment.  It's interesting that I notice this kind of 
behavior a lot more on blind oriented lists.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Sharon<mailto:sc.mor...@bell.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: Apology

I totally agree! One more rude comment, and they should be removed from the 
list.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apology

I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected in 
the realm of good list etiquette.
.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Diane 
Giannetti
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apology

Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.
Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. Take 
care.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: marilyn<mailto:tinkerbel...@hotmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: Apology

All,

The comment below is rude and uncalled for.

I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
mistake?

Marilyn

From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Please unscribe

how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have one! 
which seems doubtful


On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland 
mailto:tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Good morning,

I am now receiving viphone messages at my new email address, so please 
unsubscribe me from this address.

Thanks for a great list.

Marilyn

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RE: Apology

[chaltain]

Marilyn apologized for asking how to unsubscribe to this list. TinkerBellTX, 
who accused Marilyn of not having a brain, has not apologized, at least not as 
far as I can tell.

 

If you’d like this thread to come to an end, instead of perpetuating it, I’d 
suggest either using the delete key or following the suggestions in the footer 
to every message on this list and reach out to the moderator.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apology

 

Come on guys, enough is enough with this thread. 

Yes, this person made a very rude and inappropriate comment. However, she did 
appoligize for it. Was it wrong to make such a comment, yes, but every one 
makes mistakes and she owned up to it and appoligized. 

Its time to let it go. 





On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Esther mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

I totally agree with you. That was very very uncalled for. Esther

Sent From Esther's Awesome and Amazing iPhone 7+





On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:47 AM, chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>  
wrote:



I have a few points to make on this thread. First is that Marilyn has nothing 
to apologize for, and I hope she doesn’t judge this whole list by a few rude 
members. As anyone can tell, this list is full of members who want to help 
other blind people. But it also can’t keep mean and self righteous people from 
joining the list.

 

IMHO, the moderator doesn’t need to give this person a second chance before 
kicking them off the list. Marilyn made an honest mistake, but anyone who would 
tell someone else on the list that they don’t have a brain, is just not someone 
who should be given another chance or be allowed on this list.

 

Finally, I’m on plenty of lists which have nothing to do with blindness and I 
don’t find blindness related lists to have a greater number of rude people on 
it then your average list. I wish it were the case that blind people would 
kinder and more gracious then the general public, but unfortunately this isn’t 
the case. I also don’t think that the opposite is true, and that is that the 
blindness community is more mean spirited or has more rude people in it then 
the general community. I find this to be just another unsubstantiated prejudice 
against blind people.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apology

 

It would have taken the same amount of energy to just anser the question as 
opposed to making that comment.  It's interesting that I notice this kind of 
behavior a lot more on blind oriented lists.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sharon <mailto:sc.mor...@bell.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 1:01 PM

Subject: RE: Apology

 

I totally agree! One more rude comment, and they should be removed from the 
list.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apology

 

I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected in 
the realm of good list etiquette.

. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Diane Giannetti
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apology

 

Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

 

On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. Take 
care.

 

Arlene

 

- Original Message - 

From: marilyn <mailto:tinkerbel...@hotmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM

Subject: RE: Apology

 

All,

 

The comment below is rude and uncalled for. 

 

I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
mistake? 

 

Marilyn

 

From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net> 
Subject: Re: Please unscribe

 

how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, u

RE: Apology

[sherrywells1157]

No, the person who made the rude remark about Marilyn did not apologize at all. 
 It was Marilyn who apologized for asking the question.   The very rude person 
has not bothered to apologize.  This thread has continued as many of us have 
wanted to offer support for Marilyn.  

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apology

 

Come on guys, enough is enough with this thread. 

Yes, this person made a very rude and inappropriate comment. However, she did 
appoligize for it. Was it wrong to make such a comment, yes, but every one 
makes mistakes and she owned up to it and appoligized. 

Its time to let it go. 





On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Esther mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

I totally agree with you. That was very very uncalled for. Esther

Sent From Esther's Awesome and Amazing iPhone 7+





On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:47 AM, chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>  
wrote:



I have a few points to make on this thread. First is that Marilyn has nothing 
to apologize for, and I hope she doesn’t judge this whole list by a few rude 
members. As anyone can tell, this list is full of members who want to help 
other blind people. But it also can’t keep mean and self righteous people from 
joining the list.

 

IMHO, the moderator doesn’t need to give this person a second chance before 
kicking them off the list. Marilyn made an honest mistake, but anyone who would 
tell someone else on the list that they don’t have a brain, is just not someone 
who should be given another chance or be allowed on this list.

 

Finally, I’m on plenty of lists which have nothing to do with blindness and I 
don’t find blindness related lists to have a greater number of rude people on 
it then your average list. I wish it were the case that blind people would 
kinder and more gracious then the general public, but unfortunately this isn’t 
the case. I also don’t think that the opposite is true, and that is that the 
blindness community is more mean spirited or has more rude people in it then 
the general community. I find this to be just another unsubstantiated prejudice 
against blind people.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apology

 

It would have taken the same amount of energy to just anser the question as 
opposed to making that comment.  It's interesting that I notice this kind of 
behavior a lot more on blind oriented lists.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sharon <mailto:sc.mor...@bell.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 1:01 PM

Subject: RE: Apology

 

I totally agree! One more rude comment, and they should be removed from the 
list.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apology

 

I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected in 
the realm of good list etiquette.

. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Diane Giannetti
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apology

 

Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

 

On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. Take 
care.

 

Arlene

 

- Original Message - 

From: marilyn <mailto:tinkerbel...@hotmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM

Subject: RE: Apology

 

All,

 

The comment below is rude and uncalled for. 

 

I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
mistake? 

 

Marilyn

 

From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net> 
Subject: Re: Please unscribe

 

how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have one! 
which seems doubtful 

 

 

On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland mailto:tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

 

Go

Re: Apology

[Barbara Stahl]

Come on guys, enough is enough with this thread. 
Yes, this person made a very rude and inappropriate comment. However, she did 
appoligize for it. Was it wrong to make such a comment, yes, but every one 
makes mistakes and she owned up to it and appoligized. 
Its time to let it go. 

> On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Esther  wrote:
> 
> I totally agree with you. That was very very uncalled for. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Awesome and Amazing iPhone 7+
> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:47 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I have a few points to make on this thread. First is that Marilyn has 
>> nothing to apologize for, and I hope she doesn’t judge this whole list by a 
>> few rude members. As anyone can tell, this list is full of members who want 
>> to help other blind people. But it also can’t keep mean and self righteous 
>> people from joining the list.
>>  
>> IMHO, the moderator doesn’t need to give this person a second chance before 
>> kicking them off the list. Marilyn made an honest mistake, but anyone who 
>> would tell someone else on the list that they don’t have a brain, is just 
>> not someone who should be given another chance or be allowed on this list.
>>  
>> Finally, I’m on plenty of lists which have nothing to do with blindness and 
>> I don’t find blindness related lists to have a greater number of rude people 
>> on it then your average list. I wish it were the case that blind people 
>> would kinder and more gracious then the general public, but unfortunately 
>> this isn’t the case. I also don’t think that the opposite is true, and that 
>> is that the blindness community is more mean spirited or has more rude 
>> people in it then the general community. I find this to be just another 
>> unsubstantiated prejudice against blind people.
>>  
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
>> Baracco
>> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apology
>>  
>> It would have taken the same amount of energy to just anser the question as 
>> opposed to making that comment.  It's interesting that I notice this kind of 
>> behavior a lot more on blind oriented lists.
>>  
>> Andy
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sharon
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 1:01 PM
>> Subject: RE: Apology
>>  
>> I totally agree! One more rude comment, and they should be removed from the 
>> list.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Lumpkin
>> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apology
>>  
>> I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected 
>> in the realm of good list etiquette.
>> .
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
>> Giannetti
>> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apology
>>  
>> Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person 
>> just because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>  
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
>> have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. 
>> Take care.
>>  
>> Arlene
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: marilyn
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM
>> Subject: RE: Apology
>>  
>> All,
>>  
>> The comment below is rude and uncalled for.
>>  
>> I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
>> mistake?
>>  
>> Marilyn
>>  
>> From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
>> To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net
>> Subject: Re: Please unscribe
>>  
>> how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have 
>> one! which seems doubtful 
>>  
>>  
>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland  wrote:
>>  
>> Good morning, 
>>  
>> I am now receiving viphone messages at my new email address, so please 
>> unsubscribe me from this address. 
>>  
>> Thanks for a great list. 
>>  
>> Marilyn
>>  
>> -- 
>> The following inf

Re: Apology

[Esther]

I totally agree with you. That was very very uncalled for. Esther

Sent From Esther's Awesome and Amazing iPhone 7+

> On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:47 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a few points to make on this thread. First is that Marilyn has nothing 
> to apologize for, and I hope she doesn’t judge this whole list by a few rude 
> members. As anyone can tell, this list is full of members who want to help 
> other blind people. But it also can’t keep mean and self righteous people 
> from joining the list.
>  
> IMHO, the moderator doesn’t need to give this person a second chance before 
> kicking them off the list. Marilyn made an honest mistake, but anyone who 
> would tell someone else on the list that they don’t have a brain, is just not 
> someone who should be given another chance or be allowed on this list.
>  
> Finally, I’m on plenty of lists which have nothing to do with blindness and I 
> don’t find blindness related lists to have a greater number of rude people on 
> it then your average list. I wish it were the case that blind people would 
> kinder and more gracious then the general public, but unfortunately this 
> isn’t the case. I also don’t think that the opposite is true, and that is 
> that the blindness community is more mean spirited or has more rude people in 
> it then the general community. I find this to be just another unsubstantiated 
> prejudice against blind people.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apology
>  
> It would have taken the same amount of energy to just anser the question as 
> opposed to making that comment.  It's interesting that I notice this kind of 
> behavior a lot more on blind oriented lists.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Sharon
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 1:01 PM
> Subject: RE: Apology
>  
> I totally agree! One more rude comment, and they should be removed from the 
> list.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Lumpkin
> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apology
>  
> I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected in 
> the realm of good list etiquette.
> .
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
> Giannetti
> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apology
>  
> Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
> because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>  
> 
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> 
> Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
> have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. 
> Take care.
>  
> Arlene
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: marilyn
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM
> Subject: RE: Apology
>  
> All,
>  
> The comment below is rude and uncalled for.
>  
> I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
> mistake?
>  
> Marilyn
>  
> From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
> To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: Please unscribe
>  
> how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have 
> one! which seems doubtful 
>  
>  
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland  wrote:
>  
> Good morning, 
>  
> I am now receiving viphone messages at my new email address, so please 
> unsubscribe me from this address. 
>  
> Thanks for a great list. 
>  
> Marilyn
>  
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RE: Apology

[chaltain]

I have a few points to make on this thread. First is that Marilyn has nothing 
to apologize for, and I hope she doesn’t judge this whole list by a few rude 
members. As anyone can tell, this list is full of members who want to help 
other blind people. But it also can’t keep mean and self righteous people from 
joining the list.

 

IMHO, the moderator doesn’t need to give this person a second chance before 
kicking them off the list. Marilyn made an honest mistake, but anyone who would 
tell someone else on the list that they don’t have a brain, is just not someone 
who should be given another chance or be allowed on this list.

 

Finally, I’m on plenty of lists which have nothing to do with blindness and I 
don’t find blindness related lists to have a greater number of rude people on 
it then your average list. I wish it were the case that blind people would 
kinder and more gracious then the general public, but unfortunately this isn’t 
the case. I also don’t think that the opposite is true, and that is that the 
blindness community is more mean spirited or has more rude people in it then 
the general community. I find this to be just another unsubstantiated prejudice 
against blind people.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apology

 

It would have taken the same amount of energy to just anser the question as 
opposed to making that comment.  It's interesting that I notice this kind of 
behavior a lot more on blind oriented lists.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sharon <mailto:sc.mor...@bell.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 1:01 PM

Subject: RE: Apology

 

I totally agree! One more rude comment, and they should be removed from the 
list.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apology

 

I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected in 
the realm of good list etiquette.

. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Diane Giannetti
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apology

 

Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

 

On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. Take 
care.

 

Arlene

 

- Original Message - 

From: marilyn <mailto:tinkerbel...@hotmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM

Subject: RE: Apology

 

All,

 

The comment below is rude and uncalled for. 

 

I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
mistake? 

 

Marilyn

 

From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net> 
Subject: Re: Please unscribe

 

how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have one! 
which seems doubtful 

 

 

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Good morning, 

 

I am now receiving viphone messages at my new email address, so please 
unsubscribe me from this address. 

 

Thanks for a great list. 

 

Marilyn

 

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RE: Apology

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Marilyn,

It’s gotta be difficult being perfect like these other folks,

Good luck with your unsubscribe.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of marilyn
Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2020 2:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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All,

The comment below is rude and uncalled for.

I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
mistake?

Marilyn

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RE: Apology

[Paula Pinder]

Hi Marilyn

I'm shocked by how rude that email was. Don't let that one nasty person put
you off asking for help at any time.

Best wishes

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Re: Apology

[Shirley Baker]

I think the comment was mean spirited and very harsh. I think what you said to 
someone else should apply to yourself.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Arlene  wrote:
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> Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
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> Take care.
>  
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>  
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> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM
> Subject: RE: Apology
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> All,
>  
> The comment below is rude and uncalled for.
>  
> I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
> mistake?
>  
> Marilyn
>  
> From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
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> On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:17 AM, marilyn  wrote:
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> The comment below is rude and uncalled for.
>  
> I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
> mistake?
>  
> Marilyn
>  
> From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
> To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net
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> one! which seems doubtful 
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Re: Apology

[Andy Baracco]

It would have taken the same amount of energy to just anser the question as 
opposed to making that comment.  It's interesting that I notice this kind of 
behavior a lot more on blind oriented lists.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sharon 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 1:01 PM
  Subject: RE: Apology


  I totally agree! One more rude comment, and they should be removed from the 
list.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
  Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:31 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Apology

   

  I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected in 
the realm of good list etiquette.

  . 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
Giannetti
  Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Apology

   

  Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.

  Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

   

On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene  wrote:

 

Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. Take 
care.

 

Arlene

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: marilyn 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM

  Subject: RE: Apology

   

  All,

   

  The comment below is rude and uncalled for. 

   

  I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made 
a mistake? 

   

  Marilyn

   

  From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
  To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net
  Subject: Re: Please unscribe

   

  how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you 
have one! which seems doubtful 

   

   

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  Good morning, 

   

  I am now receiving viphone messages at my new email address, so please 
unsubscribe me from this address. 

   

  Thanks for a great list. 

   

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RE: Apology

[Sharon]

I totally agree! One more rude comment, and they should be removed from the 
list.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apology

 

I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected in 
the realm of good list etiquette.

. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
Giannetti
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apology

 

Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

 

On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. Take 
care.

 

Arlene

 

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From: marilyn <mailto:tinkerbel...@hotmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM

Subject: RE: Apology

 

All,

 

The comment below is rude and uncalled for. 

 

I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
mistake? 

 

Marilyn

 

From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net> 
Subject: Re: Please unscribe

 

how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have one! 
which seems doubtful 

 

 

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Good morning, 

 

I am now receiving viphone messages at my new email address, so please 
unsubscribe me from this address. 

 

Thanks for a great list. 

 

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Re: Apology

[Ibraheem Fakir]

First, I’m really sorry that you had to receive such bizarre words. I would 
dismiss this as A meaningless cry for attention. Second, the accusation of 
having no brain is quite oxymoronic because someone with half a brain would be 
bright enough to be kind to people.



Mistakes sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected in 
> the realm of good list etiquette.
> .
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
> Giannetti
> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apology
>  
> Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
> because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene  wrote:
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> 
> Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
> have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. 
> Take care.
>  
> Arlene
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: marilyn
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM
> Subject: RE: Apology
>  
> All,
>  
> The comment below is rude and uncalled for.
>  
> I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
> mistake?
>  
> Marilyn
>  
> From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
> To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: Please unscribe
>  
> how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have 
> one! which seems doubtful 
>  
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> On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland  wrote:
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RE: Apology

[Larry Lumpkin]

I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected in 
the realm of good list etiquette.

. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
Giannetti
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apology

 

Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!





On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. Take 
care.

 

Arlene

 

- Original Message - 

From: marilyn <mailto:tinkerbel...@hotmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM

Subject: RE: Apology

 

All,

 

The comment below is rude and uncalled for. 

 

I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
mistake? 

 

Marilyn

 

From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net> 
Subject: Re: Please unscribe

 

how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have one! 
which seems doubtful 

 

 

On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland mailto:tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

 

Good morning, 

 

I am now receiving viphone messages at my new email address, so please 
unsubscribe me from this address. 

 

Thanks for a great list. 

 

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Re: Apology

[Georgie Mac]

Marilyn,  That is just one person with absolutely no social skills what so 
ever.  No mistake here.  I do hope you got the information you needed?  If 
any additional help is needed you may write off/on list.  Someone is bound 
to give you a hand.  Good luck!  Georgi

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>
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> The comment below is rude and uncalled for. 
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> mistake? 
>
>  
>
> Marilyn
>
>  
>
> *From:* paula craig [mailto:pa...@gmail.com ] 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
> *To:* tinker...@sbcglobal.net 
> *Subject:* Re: Please unscribe
>
>  
>
> how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have 
> one! which seems doubtful 
>
>  
>
>  
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> On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland  > wrote:
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>  
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> Good morning, 
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Re: Apology

[jo Hart]

Marilyn,  That response was uncalled for and bears not one bit of your
attention.  Any question unanswered is a question not asked.  That is what
we all are here for.  Just remember what goes around comes around.  All you
need is to go to the bottom of the page for information and any
instructions!  We are here to help you.  Have a good day.
Josie

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:17 AM marilyn  wrote:

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>
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> The comment below is rude and uncalled for.
>
>
>
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> mistake?
>
>
>
> Marilyn
>
>
>
> *From:* paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
> *To:* tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net
> *Subject:* Re: Please unscribe
>
>
>
> how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have
> one! which seems doubtful
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland 
> wrote:
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>
> Good morning,
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Re: Apology

[Diane Giannetti]

Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> 
> Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
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> Take care.
>  
> Arlene
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: marilyn
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM
> Subject: RE: Apology
> 
> All,
>  
> The comment below is rude and uncalled for.
>  
> I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
> mistake?
>  
> Marilyn
>  
> From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
> To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: Please unscribe
>  
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> one! which seems doubtful 
>  
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> On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland  wrote:
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Re: Apology

[Arlene]

Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. Take 
care.

Arlene

  - Original Message - 
  From: marilyn 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:17 AM
  Subject: RE: Apology


  All,

   

  The comment below is rude and uncalled for. 

   

  I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
mistake? 

   

  Marilyn

   

  From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
  To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net
  Subject: Re: Please unscribe

   

  how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have 
one! which seems doubtful 

   

   

  On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland  wrote:

   

  Good morning, 

   

  I am now receiving viphone messages at my new email address, so please 
unsubscribe me from this address. 

   

  Thanks for a great list. 

   

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RE: Apology

[marilyn]

All,

The comment below is rude and uncalled for.

I'm sorry - I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
mistake?

Marilyn

From: paula craig [mailto:paulacrai...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 9:00 AM
To: tinkerbel...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: Please unscribe

how to unsub is at the bottom of your messages, use your brain if you have one! 
which seems doubtful


On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Marilyn Bland 
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Good morning,

I am now receiving viphone messages at my new email address, so please 
unsubscribe me from this address.

Thanks for a great list.

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Why Apple's "Batterygate" apology didn't go far enough

[M. Taylor]

Why Apple's apology didn't go far enough
By Jefferson Graham | USA TODAY Updated 4 minutes ago 
In the grand tradition of past Apple fiascos like Antennagate (dropped calls
on the then-new iPhone 4) and the launch of Apple Maps (directions that
weren't accurate), the tech giant apologized again to consumers this week.
The question is whether the iconic iPhone maker's apology went far enough.
We didn't think that it did.  
First, Apple was forced to admit that it intentionally slowed down the
performance of older phones in order to keep up with declining battery life.
It acted after a 17-year-old user performed a test that proved it.  
Critics howled, the Twitterverse pounced and several consumer lawsuits were
churned out by hungry lawyers. One asked for a $5 million in compensation on
behalf of all the consumers who felt forced to upgrade their otherwise
healthy older phones after they were slowed down by Apple's software update.
They were not given the choice to opt-in for the battery-saving slowdown
feature. 
Analysts had suggested Apple pen an open letter to consumers. While the
world awaited a beefier response from Apple than its initial admission, we
tried to do some of the work for them. We wrote the letter that we hoped
Apple would write, and posted it. A few hours later on Thursday, Apple came
clean and released it's own take. 
One major difference between our proposed apology and Apple's: We suggested
Apple say they were sorry and offer free battery upgrades for any consumer
who wanted one. Apple saw it differently. It offered an apology but not a
free battery. Instead, it is offering a new battery at a discount: $29.99,
$50 less than usual cost. The deal is available starting in late January and
running through the end of 2018 and only on iPhone 6 and 6S.
Remember, this is the world's most profitable company, a firm that paid CEO
Tim Cook $102 million in salary and bonuses in 2017. Apple generated $10
billion in profit for just the most recent quarter.
Yet it refuses to give away free batteries to inconvenienced Apple customers
who have been suffering from slow downs of their phones that they bought
from Apple in good faith.
Analyst Patrick Moorhead of Moor Insights says Apple's replacement battery
costs less than $10. He estimates that only around 100,000 consumers will
take up Apple on its offer. Even if the battery replacement was free, he
says some 250,000 people would participate, the result of which would be
"barely a blip to Apple's earnings."
A free battery would go a long way towards erasing widespread suspicion that
Apple purposely tries to make its older products obsolete in order to coax
consumers into buying new ones.
Apple denied this in the open letter.
"We have never - and would never - do anything to intentionally shorten the
life of any Apple product, or degrade the user experience to drive customer
upgrades," the company said.
But rivals Samsung, LG, Motorola and HTC all say they don't slow down their
phones to factor in older batteries. 
"Apple's offer of discounted batteries fails to compensate consumers who
were forced to purchase new iPhones," said James Vlahakis, a Chicago-area
lawyer who filed the $5 million class-action lawsuit. The $50 discount on
the price of a new battery "is an insult to loyal customers who have
consistently and with much fanfare have flocked to Apple stores worldwide to
purchase every version of the iPhone."
Still, Moorhead believes this latest fiasco will blow over for Apple and
fans will continue to wait on line breathlessly when next generation of
iPhones are announced and come to stores, typically in September. I tend to
agree, but it will be harder to take Apple's statements at face value again.

In other tech news this week
.Amazon Echo Dot. Amazon said this week that it's Echo Dot speaker was the
best-selling product among the thousands of items it offered on its website
during the holidays. The Dot is the cheapest way to get the Alexa
personalized assistant into the home. It's normally $49, but was discounted
to $29 beginning in November. 
.HQ Trivia. The game app is set to launch on Android Monday. Who wants to
win some quick cash? The ultra-popular mobile game show, open to anyone who
wants to try answering 12 questions for prizes of around $1,500, had said it
would move beyond the Apple IOS base to launch on Android phones as well.
Search for HQ Trivia on the Google Play Store to pre-register and get a
notification when the app is live. 
.Tweet archiving. The Library of Congress won't archive everyone's tweets.
All tweet activity has been archived since 2010, but beginning next week,
the Library of Congress says it will "continue to acquire tweets but will do
so on a very selective basis." The library says tweets collected and
archived will be thematic and event-based, including events such as
elections or themes of ongoing national interest, like those involving
public policy issues.

Re: Apology was, Re: Siri is still pretty stupid

[Jewel]

The Australian bloke who is sitting in the Siri chair is one of my dearest 
friends.  Does this say 
something about how thin on the ground are my dear  friends if a computer can 
be the * dearest among 
them?

  Jewel

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Hi all,


I'd like to sincerely apologise for my earlier message regarding this
thread.


It was something   that was destined for the trash and was sent in the
heat of the moment.


I will take care to read threads in full next time instead of jumping
the gun!


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Apology was, Re: Siri is still pretty stupid

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all,


I'd like to sincerely apologise for my earlier message regarding this 
thread.



It was something   that was destined for the trash and was sent in the 
heat of the moment.



I will take care to read threads in full next time instead of jumping 
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Re: Apology for the other message, some crafting Kingdom questions

[Wayne Merritt]

Thanks also Chris for that great reply. I started this game about 10
days ago and am slowly completing quests. I have expanded a couple of
times, but the current expansion requires 400 stone and 400 leather
strips. That will take me a little while to achieve, so I'm completing
other quests in the meantime. I totally love the game though and
really love that there is a story oriented game that is accessible
now.

Wayne

On 5/21/17, Lea W Langley  wrote:
> Hi Chris, Apple this by William Lopez. It's a very good podcast and I really
> enjoyed listening to it if anyone knows of any other podcast please tell
> me.
> God bless,
> Wren Langley Thank you for that wonderful message. I am I already unlocked
> another estate, and I have reset the game so I can play and do more things.
> I really like the game and I thank you for answering all of my questions.
> How did you find out all of the information? Wherever you want to find out I
> would like to go there so I can learn to. Thanks again for that great
> answer.sorry Chris, and everyone else I am dictating this and it said walk
> instead of went. Anyways thanks again for the help. Sorry for the
> repetition. I'm just very grateful for the help by the way for everyone
> there is a podcast on
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 21, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Chris Chaffin 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Wren,
>>
>> I will do my best to answer your questions, but first let me tell you a
>> little about the goal of the game.
>> The goal of Crafting Kingdom is to expand your estate to its maximum size
>> while using quest rewards and boost to help achieve this quicker.  To
>> expand your estate each time, you will need 3 things, a particular number
>> of 2 products, like 400 timber and 400 grain, and a particular amount of
>> gold.  These required amounts will increase each time you expand your
>> estate.
>> It is not required to purchase all of the properties and unlock all of its
>> products in order to expand your estate or get the rewards from the quest
>> you have completed.  Most people look at their current quest and what they
>> need on their current estate expansion, and just work on completing those
>> task.  For example, for my next estate expansion, I need 1200 Armor, 1200
>> Silver Bar, and 1 Million in gold.  Since I know it will take a while to
>> save 1 million in gold, I am currently working on my quest to help me save
>> the 1 million in gold quicker.  Once you complete quest and claim the
>> rewards, those quest will be replaced with new ones.
>> Keep im mind to retrieve your quest rewards, you have to reset the game.
>> When resetting the game, you do not lose everything.  You mainly lose 3
>> things, all properties purchased, all products unlocked, and any gold yu
>> currently have on hand.  The purpose of the quest and there rewards is to
>> help you achieve things quicker.  For example, a reward can decrease the
>> price of unlocking products, increase the gold  you get when selling a
>> product, increase the speed a product is produced, and increase your boost
>> or automation time.
>> Boost can be extremely helpful and also help you achieve something in the
>> game quicker.  To answer one of your questions, yes, you can use multiple
>> boost at the same time no matter what they are.  So you can use the
>> salesman boost up to 4 times at the same time getting a total of a 40%
>> increase for what you sell all products for.
>> In regards to your estate, it does not have to be unlocked, and neither
>> does the princess.  For each day you go into the princess and accept the
>> gift, it will increase your sell pricess by 2%.  This will continue until
>> it reaches 100%.
>> Your estate will just give you information about your estate and what is
>> needed to do your next expansion.
>>
>> As far as fishing rods, the metal parts needed actually come from the
>> BlackSmith property.  So to make fishing rods, you will have to own 5
>> properties, the Lumberyard, The farm, The Cory, the Furnace, and the
>> Blacksmith.
>> It takes 3 properties to make metal parts.  To make metal parts here are
>> the steps:
>> You will need 1 Coal and 1 Iron Ore from the Cory to make 1 metal from the
>> furnace.
>> Then it will take 1 metal from the furnace to make 1 metal part from the
>> Blacksmith.
>> So as you can tell, it will take some money and time in order to produce
>> fishing rods.  So unless it is for a quest or to expand your estate, I
>> would not worry about fishing rods at this point.  Just concentrate on
>> your quest and your estate expansion.  Remember, that is the goal of the
>> game.
>>
>> I would be happy to answer any other questions you might have about the
>> game.
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 20, 2017, at 11:32 PM, Lea W Langley 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Question one is the metal part that is needed in the fishing rod that is
>>> in the timberyard made from the furnace? 

Re: Apology for the other message, some crafting Kingdom questions

[Lea W Langley]

Hi Chris, Apple this by William Lopez. It's a very good podcast and I really 
enjoyed listening to it if anyone knows of any other podcast please tell me.
God bless,
Wren Langley Thank you for that wonderful message. I am I already unlocked 
another estate, and I have reset the game so I can play and do more things. I 
really like the game and I thank you for answering all of my questions. How did 
you find out all of the information? Wherever you want to find out I would like 
to go there so I can learn to. Thanks again for that great answer.sorry Chris, 
and everyone else I am dictating this and it said walk instead of went. Anyways 
thanks again for the help. Sorry for the repetition. I'm just very grateful for 
the help by the way for everyone there is a podcast on

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hello Wren,
> 
> I will do my best to answer your questions, but first let me tell you a 
> little about the goal of the game.
> The goal of Crafting Kingdom is to expand your estate to its maximum size 
> while using quest rewards and boost to help achieve this quicker.  To expand 
> your estate each time, you will need 3 things, a particular number of 2 
> products, like 400 timber and 400 grain, and a particular amount of gold.  
> These required amounts will increase each time you expand your estate.
> It is not required to purchase all of the properties and unlock all of its 
> products in order to expand your estate or get the rewards from the quest you 
> have completed.  Most people look at their current quest and what they need 
> on their current estate expansion, and just work on completing those task.  
> For example, for my next estate expansion, I need 1200 Armor, 1200 Silver 
> Bar, and 1 Million in gold.  Since I know it will take a while to save 1 
> million in gold, I am currently working on my quest to help me save the 1 
> million in gold quicker.  Once you complete quest and claim the rewards, 
> those quest will be replaced with new ones.
> Keep im mind to retrieve your quest rewards, you have to reset the game.  
> When resetting the game, you do not lose everything.  You mainly lose 3 
> things, all properties purchased, all products unlocked, and any gold yu 
> currently have on hand.  The purpose of the quest and there rewards is to 
> help you achieve things quicker.  For example, a reward can decrease the 
> price of unlocking products, increase the gold  you get when selling a 
> product, increase the speed a product is produced, and increase your boost or 
> automation time.  
> Boost can be extremely helpful and also help you achieve something in the 
> game quicker.  To answer one of your questions, yes, you can use multiple 
> boost at the same time no matter what they are.  So you can use the salesman 
> boost up to 4 times at the same time getting a total of a 40% increase for 
> what you sell all products for.  
> In regards to your estate, it does not have to be unlocked, and neither does 
> the princess.  For each day you go into the princess and accept the gift, it 
> will increase your sell pricess by 2%.  This will continue until it reaches 
> 100%.
> Your estate will just give you information about your estate and what is 
> needed to do your next expansion.
> 
> As far as fishing rods, the metal parts needed actually come from the 
> BlackSmith property.  So to make fishing rods, you will have to own 5 
> properties, the Lumberyard, The farm, The Cory, the Furnace, and the 
> Blacksmith.
> It takes 3 properties to make metal parts.  To make metal parts here are the 
> steps:
> You will need 1 Coal and 1 Iron Ore from the Cory to make 1 metal from the 
> furnace.
> Then it will take 1 metal from the furnace to make 1 metal part from the 
> Blacksmith.
> So as you can tell, it will take some money and time in order to produce 
> fishing rods.  So unless it is for a quest or to expand your estate, I would 
> not worry about fishing rods at this point.  Just concentrate on your quest 
> and your estate expansion.  Remember, that is the goal of the game.
> 
> I would be happy to answer any other questions you might have about the game.
> Good luck!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 11:32 PM, Lea W Langley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Question one is the metal part that is needed in the fishing rod that is in 
>> the timberyard made from the furnace? Question two do boosts such as 
>> salesman quick study and the one that unlocks products cheaper multiply if 
>> you use them more than once? I know that the gold adds up because I have use 
>> that four times, but I wasn't sure about the others. Question three do I 
>> need to unlock all of the shops before I can unlock the estate?.
>> Thanks again for the help.
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Wren Langley
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apology for the other message, some crafting Kingdom questions

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello Wren,

I will do my best to answer your questions, but first let me tell you a little 
about the goal of the game.
The goal of Crafting Kingdom is to expand your estate to its maximum size while 
using quest rewards and boost to help achieve this quicker.  To expand your 
estate each time, you will need 3 things, a particular number of 2 products, 
like 400 timber and 400 grain, and a particular amount of gold.  These required 
amounts will increase each time you expand your estate.
It is not required to purchase all of the properties and unlock all of its 
products in order to expand your estate or get the rewards from the quest you 
have completed.  Most people look at their current quest and what they need on 
their current estate expansion, and just work on completing those task.  For 
example, for my next estate expansion, I need 1200 Armor, 1200 Silver Bar, and 
1 Million in gold.  Since I know it will take a while to save 1 million in 
gold, I am currently working on my quest to help me save the 1 million in gold 
quicker.  Once you complete quest and claim the rewards, those quest will be 
replaced with new ones.
Keep im mind to retrieve your quest rewards, you have to reset the game.  When 
resetting the game, you do not lose everything.  You mainly lose 3 things, all 
properties purchased, all products unlocked, and any gold yu currently have on 
hand.  The purpose of the quest and there rewards is to help you achieve things 
quicker.  For example, a reward can decrease the price of unlocking products, 
increase the gold  you get when selling a product, increase the speed a product 
is produced, and increase your boost or automation time.  
Boost can be extremely helpful and also help you achieve something in the game 
quicker.  To answer one of your questions, yes, you can use multiple boost at 
the same time no matter what they are.  So you can use the salesman boost up to 
4 times at the same time getting a total of a 40% increase for what you sell 
all products for.  
In regards to your estate, it does not have to be unlocked, and neither does 
the princess.  For each day you go into the princess and accept the gift, it 
will increase your sell pricess by 2%.  This will continue until it reaches 
100%.
Your estate will just give you information about your estate and what is needed 
to do your next expansion.

As far as fishing rods, the metal parts needed actually come from the 
BlackSmith property.  So to make fishing rods, you will have to own 5 
properties, the Lumberyard, The farm, The Cory, the Furnace, and the Blacksmith.
It takes 3 properties to make metal parts.  To make metal parts here are the 
steps:
You will need 1 Coal and 1 Iron Ore from the Cory to make 1 metal from the 
furnace.
Then it will take 1 metal from the furnace to make 1 metal part from the 
Blacksmith.
So as you can tell, it will take some money and time in order to produce 
fishing rods.  So unless it is for a quest or to expand your estate, I would 
not worry about fishing rods at this point.  Just concentrate on your quest and 
your estate expansion.  Remember, that is the goal of the game.

I would be happy to answer any other questions you might have about the game.
Good luck!

Chris



> On May 20, 2017, at 11:32 PM, Lea W Langley  wrote:
> 
> Question one is the metal part that is needed in the fishing rod that is in 
> the timberyard made from the furnace? Question two do boosts such as salesman 
> quick study and the one that unlocks products cheaper multiply if you use 
> them more than once? I know that the gold adds up because I have use that 
> four times, but I wasn't sure about the others. Question three do I need to 
> unlock all of the shops before I can unlock the estate?.
> Thanks again for the help.
> 
> God bless,
> Wren Langley
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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Question one is the metal part that is needed in the fishing rod that is in the 
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study and the one that unlocks products cheaper multiply if you use them more 
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Re: Totally Off Topic, apology in advance

[Richard Turner]

I replied off line with a resource page since this is clearly not appropriate 
on list.
Next time, I'd kindly recommend you google your question.
Richard


On Apr 30, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Noe Villeda 
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Hello listers,

I am having some sound card issues with a relatively new Windows 10 pc.

Is there a mailing for blindness related pc or sound issues?

I’d appreciate any information.

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Totally Off Topic, apology in advance

[Noe Villeda]

Hello listers,
 
I am having some sound card issues with a relatively new Windows 10 pc.
 
Is there a mailing for blindness related pc or sound issues?
 
I'd appreciate any information.
 
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RE: apology

[Rose Combs]

No big deal more than likely.  

 

 

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A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 7:33 PM
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Subject: apology

 

I had been writing some to someone on the list, and I did not realize we were 
still communicating about irrelevant stuff to this list, and it was going to 
the list anyway.  My apologies for that, and I'll be more careful in the future.

 

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apology

[Eden Kizer]

I had been writing some to someone on the list, and I did not realize we were 
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the list anyway.  My apologies for that, and I'll be more careful in the future.

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apology

[Deidre Muccio]

I do not know why this message from me to the list has appeared here again.
It was not meant for the list to begin with. My apology.

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To Roul an apology

[Lori Dent]

Hi Roul,

I want to apologise for sending thank you messages to the list. I will remember 
to not send these kind of messages to the  list again. 

If I want to thank someone for helping me out, I will email the person off list.

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[Eden Kizer]

I meant to send something directly to a list member, and I accidentally 
sent to all, sorry.


Eden

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RE: updating iOS and apology

[Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)]

Thanks for this, I wasn't aware that there was no feedback for that amount of 
time, I was really lucky that I didn't mess up my IPhone 5 then.
It went dead and I pressed the on/off button a few times.
It did eventually come back and the update showed up in the details, I hope 
that I haven't messed something up though.


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 18 November 2014 03:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: updating iOS and apology

Hi Eden,

Maybe you already received an answer, but after a phone reboots during the 
update it goes dead for at least 15 minutes. It is actually not dead, but doing 
the update and sighted people will see the Apple logo on the screen. It's 
important to leave it alone because if you try to push all sorts of buttons or 
even worse, do a reset by holding the power and home buttons you will most 
likely interrupt the update and this will mess up your phone really good. That 
is one reason why I often prefer to do updates via iTunes, you get a lot more 
feedback as to what is going on.


Regards,
Sieghard



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First, Raul, apologies for the thank you messages, won't happen again, but now 
I have a bigger problem.  I started updating with no problem, but my phone said 
it was going to reboot, waited for 4 minutes, nothing, try turning on phone, 
nothing.  A little concerned here.

Eden

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Re: updating iOS and apology

[Christopher Chaltain]

Plus it's easy to do a quick encrypted backup before you start the 
update. I don't use iTunes for every update, in fact, I did an OTA 
update to get to IOS 8.1.1, but an update through iTunes definitely has 
some advantages, and that's what I use for any major update.


On 11/17/2014 10:10 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:

I find using iTunes to be far less risky and far more reliable.  Plus,
it saves space on your phone during the updating.

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Subject: RE: updating iOS and apology


Hi Eden,

Maybe you already received an answer, but after a phone reboots during
the update it goes dead for at least 15 minutes. It is actually not
dead, but doing the update and sighted people will see the Apple logo on
the screen. It's important to leave it alone because if you try to push
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home buttons you will most likely interrupt the update and this will
mess up your phone really good. That is one reason why I often prefer to
do updates via iTunes, you get a lot more feedback as to what is going on.


Regards,
Sieghard



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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 3:54 PM
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Subject: updating iOS and apology

First, Raul, apologies for the thank you messages, won't happen again,
but now I have a bigger problem.  I started updating with no problem,
but my phone said it was going to reboot, waited for 4 minutes, nothing,
try turning on phone, nothing.  A little concerned here.

Eden

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[Eden Kizer]

First, Raul, apologies for the thank you messages, won't happen again, 
but now I have a bigger problem.  I started updating with no problem, 
but my phone said it was going to reboot, waited for 4 minutes, nothing, 
try turning on phone, nothing.  A little concerned here.


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RE: updating iOS and apology

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Eden,

Maybe you already received an answer, but after a phone reboots during the 
update it goes dead for at least 15 minutes. It is actually not dead, but doing 
the update and sighted people will see the Apple logo on the screen. It's 
important to leave it alone because if you try to push all sorts of buttons or 
even worse, do a reset by holding the power and home buttons you will most 
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is one reason why I often prefer to do updates via iTunes, you get a lot more 
feedback as to what is going on.


Regards,
Sieghard



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Eden Kizer
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: updating iOS and apology

First, Raul, apologies for the thank you messages, won't happen again, but now 
I have a bigger problem.  I started updating with no problem, but my phone said 
it was going to reboot, waited for 4 minutes, nothing, try turning on phone, 
nothing.  A little concerned here.

Eden

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Re: updating iOS and apology

[Charles Rivard]

I find using iTunes to be far less risky and far more reliable.  Plus, it 
saves space on your phone during the updating.


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- Original Message - 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: updating iOS and apology


Hi Eden,

Maybe you already received an answer, but after a phone reboots during the 
update it goes dead for at least 15 minutes. It is actually not dead, but 
doing the update and sighted people will see the Apple logo on the screen. 
It's important to leave it alone because if you try to push all sorts of 
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will most likely interrupt the update and this will mess up your phone 
really good. That is one reason why I often prefer to do updates via iTunes, 
you get a lot more feedback as to what is going on.



Regards,
Sieghard



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Of Eden Kizer

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: updating iOS and apology

First, Raul, apologies for the thank you messages, won't happen again, but 
now I have a bigger problem.  I started updating with no problem, but my 
phone said it was going to reboot, waited for 4 minutes, nothing, try 
turning on phone, nothing.  A little concerned here.


Eden

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Re: updating iOS and apology

[Charles Rivard]

You should have waited much longer than 4 minutes.

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- Original Message - 
From: Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:54 PM
Subject: updating iOS and apology


First, Raul, apologies for the thank you messages, won't happen again,
but now I have a bigger problem.  I started updating with no problem,
but my phone said it was going to reboot, waited for 4 minutes, nothing,
try turning on phone, nothing.  A little concerned here.

Eden

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Testing to make sure my post comes through and apology

[M.Nelson]

I am so sorry for the hi jacking of the thread and assure you it was a 
mistake which will not be repeated. I thought I had sent a prior message by the 
correct email address but perhaps I was mistaken. This one is definitely the 
correct address so hopefully it will post appropriately. I try to always use 
proper procedures on the lists I join and this is my first reprimand so I 
promise to be good.
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Re: Testing to make sure my post comes through and apology

[Lois Butterfield]

Got it just fine.

Thanks,
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From: M.Nelson 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Testing to make sure my post comes through and apology

I am so sorry for the hi jacking of the thread and assure you it was a 
mistake which will not be repeated. I thought I had sent a prior message by the 
correct email address but perhaps I was mistaken. This one is definitely the 
correct address so hopefully it will post appropriately. I try to always use 
proper procedures on the lists I join and this is my first reprimand so I 
promise to be good.
Marie




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Re: Testing to make sure my post comes through and apology

[Gail the U. S. Male]

you're coming through.
Mr. Gail Crowe, and my guide dog Fred
  - Original Message - 
  From: M.Nelson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 2:48 PM
  Subject: Testing to make sure my post comes through and apology


  I am so sorry for the hi jacking of the thread and assure you it was a 
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correct address so hopefully it will post appropriately. I try to always use 
proper procedures on the lists I join and this is my first reprimand so I 
promise to be good.
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Re: Apology and another question concerning the chime clocks

[Alan Paganelli]

The purpose of a Westminster clock is to let you know the time by the 
pattern of the chiming at the quarter, half, three quarters and top of the 
hour with a full chime count meaning if it's 1 o'clock you hear the full 
Westminster melody plus a chime strike of 1.



Regards,

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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:49 AM
Subject: Apology and another question concerning the chime clocks


Hi all, and thank you for the help. I want to apologize for not quite asking 
my last message correctly. I put the Big Bend Clock on and I also have the 
Westminster Chimes spoken on, but neither one of these say which hour it is 
is there one that will actually tell you which our you are on such as 1245 
or 115 or 230. Thank you very much again for the help and God bless,wren 
Langley


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Apology and another question concerning the chime clocks

[Wren Langley]

Hi all, and thank you for the help. I want to apologize for not quite asking my 
last message correctly. I put the Big Bend Clock on and I also have the 
Westminster Chimes spoken on, but neither one of these say which hour it is is 
there one that will actually tell you which our you are on such as 1245 or 115 
or 230. Thank you very much again for the help and God bless,wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Apology and another question concerning the chime clocks

[janet wright]

chime will do this at least I think that is what the clock is called is 
chimes and you can set it so you can control if you want it to go off at 
night or not that’s why I like it




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wait on the blessing he has in store for me!
-Original Message- 
From: Wren Langley

Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apology and another question concerning the chime clocks

Hi all, and thank you for the help. I want to apologize for not quite asking 
my last message correctly. I put the Big Bend Clock on and I also have the 
Westminster Chimes spoken on, but neither one of these say which hour it is 
is there one that will actually tell you which our you are on such as 1245 
or 115 or 230. Thank you very much again for the help and God bless,wren 
Langley


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Re: Apology and another question concerning the chime clocks

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Got it. I look forward to any recommendations as this would be nice but 
not a dealbreaker.



Sent from my laptop

On 07/10/2014 19:49, Wren Langley wrote:

Hi all, and thank you for the help. I want to apologize for not quite asking my 
last message correctly. I put the Big Bend Clock on and I also have the 
Westminster Chimes spoken on, but neither one of these say which hour it is is 
there one that will actually tell you which our you are on such as 1245 or 115 
or 230. Thank you very much again for the help and God bless,wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone



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Apology for thread highjacking

[Richard Turner]

I fell into the trap of replying to a message that had nothing to do with
the thread instead of starting a new thread.

I am sorry for doing that.

It was the KNFB Reader thread and the topic of iOS 8 and 4S phones.

Now that thread is wandering a bit further off the original track.

 

Richard

 

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Moderator Note - Apology -was- Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Looking for Feature-rich Notetaker that Supports External Keyboard

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Craig and all,

Let me apologize for my earlier note.

Craig, I misread your note in regard to the AccessNote app on the iOS App 
Store. I was thinking your note was asking about actual physical note-takers. 
So my earlier message was in error. -Oops! -Apologies to you and the list.

Please disregard my note.

Thanks so much and have a terrific rest of your weekend!…

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Jan 18, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Craig,

I'm assuming you sent this to the wrong list. :)

No worries of course, but I would just ask that people please respond to this 
off-list as this is not iDevice related.

thanks a bunch y'all and have a great weekend!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Jan 18, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello, everyone.

I am seeking recommendations for a notetaker that meets as many of
these criteria as possible:

* reliable cursor tracking allowing the user to return to the place at
which she/he left off

* sophisticated text find and find and replace command set

* accessible with external keyboard using robust command set

* at least some formatting ability, such as setting line length,
centering a title

* ability to send a file to Dropbox

* significant program development since its initial release.

Ideally, the software should be able to save documents in rtf or
doc format, but this is not a requirement.

Based on my online reading, the leading candidate appears to be AFB's
AccessNote, but I'm wondering how far the software has come since its
initial release.

All comments are welcome.

Thank you.

Craig

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Re: Moderator Note - Apology -was- Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Looking for Feature-rich Notetaker that Supports External Keyboard

[Craig Werner]

Goodness, Cara, no apology was necessary.  My use of the word
notetaker probably threw you off.  I was trying to be accurate since
I am not looking for a full-fledged word processor, and I chose the
best word I could, which, of course, also might denote a stand-alone
device that might not have anything to do with an iOS product.  I am
posting this note to you publicly rather than privately because I
wanted to share my amusement over the fact that two people, trying to
be conscientiously accurate, can sometimes falter.  I think all we owe
each other is a very small virtual cup of coffee.  smile

Craig

On 1/19/14, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Craig and all,

 Let me apologize for my earlier note.

 Craig, I misread your note in regard to the AccessNote app on the iOS App
 Store. I was thinking your note was asking about actual physical
 note-takers. So my earlier message was in error. -Oops! -Apologies to you
 and the list.

 Please disregard my note.

 Thanks so much and have a terrific rest of your weekend!…

 Smiles,

 Cara :)
 On Jan 18, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Craig,

 I'm assuming you sent this to the wrong list. :)

 No worries of course, but I would just ask that people please respond to
 this off-list as this is not iDevice related.

 thanks a bunch y'all and have a great weekend!

 Smiles,

 Cara :)
 On Jan 18, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, everyone.

 I am seeking recommendations for a notetaker that meets as many of
 these criteria as possible:

 * reliable cursor tracking allowing the user to return to the place at
 which she/he left off

 * sophisticated text find and find and replace command set

 * accessible with external keyboard using robust command set

 * at least some formatting ability, such as setting line length,
 centering a title

 * ability to send a file to Dropbox

 * significant program development since its initial release.

 Ideally, the software should be able to save documents in rtf or
 doc format, but this is not a requirement.

 Based on my online reading, the leading candidate appears to be AFB's
 AccessNote, but I'm wondering how far the software has come since its
 initial release.

 All comments are welcome.

 Thank you.

 Craig

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apology

[Patti Johnson]

I wawsn't paying attention, so forgive the last message because it 
didn't quite pertain to the subject line.

My bad.
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Apology to the List, And Can anyone explain what I did wrong?

[Lea Langley]

Hi all and thanks for the help.
A message that was supposed to be sent to one person wenthe to the list. I had 
the message the individual wrote open, and I hit the reply button. Can anyone 
explain what I did wrong? I apologize for the message going to the list.

GOD Bless,
Wren



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Re: Apology to the List, And Can anyone explain what I did wrong?

[Joseph FreeTech]

Hi Lea,

There are many ways to post a message on this list, so providing us with the 
email client you are using would go a long ways to helping you get to the 
bottom of the problem. Smile.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:10 AM
Subject: Apology to the List, And Can anyone explain what I did wrong?


Hi all and thanks for the help.
A message that was supposed to be sent to one person wenthe to the list. I 
had the message the individual wrote open, and I hit the reply button. Can 
anyone explain what I did wrong? I apologize for the message going to the 
list.

GOD Bless,
Wren



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Re: Apology to the List, And Can anyone explain what I did wrong?

[Aser Tolentino]

 
 Hi, this happened because the email you were looking at was sent by the list 
 on behalf of the sender. This is so any replies go to the list and not just 
 them. To actually send a message just to them, you have to select their 
 address in the message header and compose a message to that address. In iOS 
 To send a message just to you for instance, I'd scroll up to the top of the 
 message and double tap your name, which would bring up a link to your email 
 address, which lets me add it to a contact or just select it to open the new 
 message window. I hope that helps.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:10 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi all and thanks for the help.
 A message that was supposed to be sent to one person wenthe to the list. I 
 had the message the individual wrote open, and I hit the reply button. Can 
 anyone explain what I did wrong? I apologize for the message going to the 
 list.
 
 GOD Bless,
 Wren
 
 
 
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Re: Moderator apology for banning certain members

[Chris H]

Well everyone makes mistakes after all we're human. So am sure in their 
right minds they will accept your apology.



Chris

On 13/06/2013 04:28, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hello all. This is to send out a public list apology because of a
mistake I made with the management of this list. I have no excuse, but
I'd like to explain.

First off, I've gotten more contractor work lately. I'm certainly not
apologizing for having too much work smile, however that also means a
change in my routine regarding several things which are not part of my
real life.

I've been doing my best to keep up with the moderated messages and with
the list content, but I've fallen behind. The other day I was quickly
going through the moderation queue and had selected 30 messages to
approve. However I was doing this all too quickly before I had to leave
my home, and instead of choosing the post button I chose the spam and
ban button. This meant that many new members, including some older ones
on moderation were banned from the list. I had to get going as I said,
and so didn't have time to go and fix it. I couldn't just press alt-left
arrow and re-try unfortunately. So, I've been slowly unbanning members
as I can. Unfortunately Google Groups will let me ban as many messages
and members as I want all at once, but so far I haven't been able to
unbanned multiple addresses at once. So, I've been doing them
one-by-one. If you know of anyone who can't post to the list, please
forward them this message and ask them to write me directly to let me
know it looks like they were banned and I'll verify that and get back
with them to fix the issue.

Once again, I apologize for this mistake, and I hope something stupid
doesn't happen again because of my rushing to get things done.

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Re: Moderator apology for banning certain members

[Nimit Kaur]

No problem.  I know somebody that asked in the other list what's up
with the ViPhone list and I will find the email and forward your
message to the sender.  No worries!  Humans are humans!  Make
mistakes!!  OK?  Thanks!  I will look for that email right now and
send it to the sender. Thanks!

On 6/13/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well everyone makes mistakes after all we're human. So am sure in their
 right minds they will accept your apology.


 Chris

 On 13/06/2013 04:28, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Hello all. This is to send out a public list apology because of a
 mistake I made with the management of this list. I have no excuse, but
 I'd like to explain.

 First off, I've gotten more contractor work lately. I'm certainly not
 apologizing for having too much work smile, however that also means a
 change in my routine regarding several things which are not part of my
 real life.

 I've been doing my best to keep up with the moderated messages and with
 the list content, but I've fallen behind. The other day I was quickly
 going through the moderation queue and had selected 30 messages to
 approve. However I was doing this all too quickly before I had to leave
 my home, and instead of choosing the post button I chose the spam and
 ban button. This meant that many new members, including some older ones
 on moderation were banned from the list. I had to get going as I said,
 and so didn't have time to go and fix it. I couldn't just press alt-left
 arrow and re-try unfortunately. So, I've been slowly unbanning members
 as I can. Unfortunately Google Groups will let me ban as many messages
 and members as I want all at once, but so far I haven't been able to
 unbanned multiple addresses at once. So, I've been doing them
 one-by-one. If you know of anyone who can't post to the list, please
 forward them this message and ask them to write me directly to let me
 know it looks like they were banned and I'll verify that and get back
 with them to fix the issue.

 Once again, I apologize for this mistake, and I hope something stupid
 doesn't happen again because of my rushing to get things done.

 --
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 *Knock Knock Knock*, Penny... *Knock Knock Knock*, Penny... *Knock Knock
 Knock*, Penny... - Sheldon Cooper
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Re: Moderator apology for banning certain members

[Raul A. Gallegos]

That's true, and if they don't, then I might accidentally  Just 
kidding. smile.


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On 6/13/2013 1:37 AM, Chris H wrote:

Well everyone makes mistakes after all we're human. So am sure in their
right minds they will accept your apology.


Chris

On 13/06/2013 04:28, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hello all. This is to send out a public list apology because of a
mistake I made with the management of this list. I have no excuse, but
I'd like to explain.

First off, I've gotten more contractor work lately. I'm certainly not
apologizing for having too much work smile, however that also means a
change in my routine regarding several things which are not part of my
real life.

I've been doing my best to keep up with the moderated messages and with
the list content, but I've fallen behind. The other day I was quickly
going through the moderation queue and had selected 30 messages to
approve. However I was doing this all too quickly before I had to leave
my home, and instead of choosing the post button I chose the spam and
ban button. This meant that many new members, including some older ones
on moderation were banned from the list. I had to get going as I said,
and so didn't have time to go and fix it. I couldn't just press alt-left
arrow and re-try unfortunately. So, I've been slowly unbanning members
as I can. Unfortunately Google Groups will let me ban as many messages
and members as I want all at once, but so far I haven't been able to
unbanned multiple addresses at once. So, I've been doing them
one-by-one. If you know of anyone who can't post to the list, please
forward them this message and ask them to write me directly to let me
know it looks like they were banned and I'll verify that and get back
with them to fix the issue.

Once again, I apologize for this mistake, and I hope something stupid
doesn't happen again because of my rushing to get things done.

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Knock*, Penny... - Sheldon Cooper
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Moderator apology for banning certain members

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hello all. This is to send out a public list apology because of a 
mistake I made with the management of this list. I have no excuse, but 
I'd like to explain.


First off, I've gotten more contractor work lately. I'm certainly not 
apologizing for having too much work smile, however that also means a 
change in my routine regarding several things which are not part of my 
real life.


I've been doing my best to keep up with the moderated messages and with 
the list content, but I've fallen behind. The other day I was quickly 
going through the moderation queue and had selected 30 messages to 
approve. However I was doing this all too quickly before I had to leave 
my home, and instead of choosing the post button I chose the spam and 
ban button. This meant that many new members, including some older ones 
on moderation were banned from the list. I had to get going as I said, 
and so didn't have time to go and fix it. I couldn't just press alt-left 
arrow and re-try unfortunately. So, I've been slowly unbanning members 
as I can. Unfortunately Google Groups will let me ban as many messages 
and members as I want all at once, but so far I haven't been able to 
unbanned multiple addresses at once. So, I've been doing them 
one-by-one. If you know of anyone who can't post to the list, please 
forward them this message and ask them to write me directly to let me 
know it looks like they were banned and I'll verify that and get back 
with them to fix the issue.


Once again, I apologize for this mistake, and I hope something stupid 
doesn't happen again because of my rushing to get things done.


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Knock*, Penny... - Sheldon Cooper

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Re: apology

[David McLean]

Actually there is!  It's an interview with Judy Dixon about the upcoming Nls 
app.
On Mar 9, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:

 I apologize for saying there was an interview on Blind Bargains about the NLS 
 app.  I listened to several interviews by different people and made a 
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apology

[Marianne Denning]

I apologize for saying there was an interview on Blind Bargains about the
NLS app.  I listened to several interviews by different people and made a
mistake.  I am very anxious for the NLS app to come out.

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Re: apology

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
No problem.  Apology accepted.

Tom

  - Original Message - 
  From: Marianne Denning 
  To: viphone 
  Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:27 PM
  Subject: apology


  I apologize for saying there was an interview on Blind Bargains about the NLS 
app.  I listened to several interviews by different people and made a mistake.  
I am very anxious for the NLS app to come out.

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RE: apology

[Richard Turner]

Hi Marianne,

No worries.  I think most of us are anxious for the app to come out.

I know I am.

 

Richard

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:28 PM
To: viphone
Subject: apology

 

I apologize for saying there was an interview on Blind Bargains about the
NLS app.  I listened to several interviews by different people and made a
mistake.  I am very anxious for the NLS app to come out.

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My apology to the list about moderated messages

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hey all. If you have been writing to the list and your messages have 
been moderated it means they haven't shown up on the list. New members 
are automatically moderated until I can determine if they are spammers 
or real people. Also, some members might be moderated for other reasons 
and those are usually temporary. When I see a moderated message come 
through I have the option to go into the Google Groups site and allow or 
ignore the message. For some reason doing this on an individual message 
basis has been generating an error and so the messages have remained 
moderated and never went out to the list. I just discovered that if I 
look at the entire queue of messages and choose them from that list then 
they go through. This didn't used to work that way and so I can only 
assume it's an error of some kind with the list or with Google Groups. 
So, the bottom line, I apologize to those members who have posted 
messages and they never made it to the list. Things are caught up now 
and so if you see messages from a week or so ago, that's why. There is 
no need to reply to this message on list, but if you want to add 
something, write me directly.


Cheers.

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Tim Cook's apology!

[Avnish Chopra]

 Please follow this link for the text of Tim Cook's apology!
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Re: Tim Cook's apology!

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

This  is an interesting tactic; although why on earth Bing was the
first alternative that he suggested is beyond me.

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Re: Tim Cook's apology!

[James Mannion]

If something is going to be all messed up, maps is a relatively ok
thing for it to be in my opinion because there are so many
alternatives to use for navigation apps. The other thing I noticed is
this was just another instance in the comments where android fans are
just trolling the net for any issues or even exagerated or roomers of
issues to make their apple and IPhone bashing comments. Why do Android
fans have to put so much of their lives in to bashing Apple? Can't
they just be happy that they made whatever choice they did? I saw
another article last night talking about the new A6 processor. The
comments were filled with Android fans just bashing Apple with
everything they could. Even one comments said too bad they don't have
an OS to take advantage of it. Huh? Seems to me IOS takes advantage of
the CPU and GPU chip set fine and I could not tell you how it does
not. I do not think they could either. Meanwhile their beloved has a
long standing reputation for all kinds of lag.

Jim

On 9/28/12, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 This  is an interesting tactic; although why on earth Bing was the
 first alternative that he suggested is beyond me.

 On 9/28/12, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:
  Please follow this link for the text of Tim Cook's apology!
 http://toi.in/sfeMOZ

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Re: Tim Cook's apology!

[Christopher Chaltain]

Android users aren't the only ones bashing other products. there's
plenty of that done by iPhone users as well. It must be human nature or
something, but you see it all the time from all sides.

On 29/09/12 00:04, James Mannion wrote:
 If something is going to be all messed up, maps is a relatively ok
 thing for it to be in my opinion because there are so many
 alternatives to use for navigation apps. The other thing I noticed is
 this was just another instance in the comments where android fans are
 just trolling the net for any issues or even exagerated or roomers of
 issues to make their apple and IPhone bashing comments. Why do Android
 fans have to put so much of their lives in to bashing Apple? Can't
 they just be happy that they made whatever choice they did? I saw
 another article last night talking about the new A6 processor. The
 comments were filled with Android fans just bashing Apple with
 everything they could. Even one comments said too bad they don't have
 an OS to take advantage of it. Huh? Seems to me IOS takes advantage of
 the CPU and GPU chip set fine and I could not tell you how it does
 not. I do not think they could either. Meanwhile their beloved has a
 long standing reputation for all kinds of lag.
 
 Jim
 
 On 9/28/12, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 This  is an interesting tactic; although why on earth Bing was the
 first alternative that he suggested is beyond me.

 On 9/28/12, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:
  Please follow this link for the text of Tim Cook's apology!
 http://toi.in/sfeMOZ

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Re: Tim Cook's apology!

[Teresa Cochran]

It's very easy to bash something you don't have experience with, because you 
don't know it. I think it really is a human-nature sort of thing. I've had to 
stop myself going on about something because I'd heard a rumor about a bad 
aspect of that particular thing. Of course, in private conversation, I go on 
about such things just to vent. But trolling is something I've never understood 
doing.

I think Apple have done a great job. There are pluses and minuses, but I've 
pretty much chosen all of them, and I'm comfortable in that choice.

Teresa

On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Android users aren't the only ones bashing other products. there's
 plenty of that done by iPhone users as well. It must be human nature or
 something, but you see it all the time from all sides.
 
 On 29/09/12 00:04, James Mannion wrote:
 If something is going to be all messed up, maps is a relatively ok
 thing for it to be in my opinion because there are so many
 alternatives to use for navigation apps. The other thing I noticed is
 this was just another instance in the comments where android fans are
 just trolling the net for any issues or even exagerated or roomers of
 issues to make their apple and IPhone bashing comments. Why do Android
 fans have to put so much of their lives in to bashing Apple? Can't
 they just be happy that they made whatever choice they did? I saw
 another article last night talking about the new A6 processor. The
 comments were filled with Android fans just bashing Apple with
 everything they could. Even one comments said too bad they don't have
 an OS to take advantage of it. Huh? Seems to me IOS takes advantage of
 the CPU and GPU chip set fine and I could not tell you how it does
 not. I do not think they could either. Meanwhile their beloved has a
 long standing reputation for all kinds of lag.
 
 Jim
 
 On 9/28/12, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 This  is an interesting tactic; although why on earth Bing was the
 first alternative that he suggested is beyond me.
 
 On 9/28/12, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please follow this link for the text of Tim Cook's apology!
 http://toi.in/sfeMOZ
 
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