Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-29 Thread Richard Turner
This is interesting.
I use Tom Enhanced, and it pronounces tornado just fine.
The Irish male Siri says Tornado like it was trying to say the first part of 
the word toward.
Very odd sounding.
But, the n is definitely there.



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On Mar 29, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:

It puts a t in where there should be a d. Also, it eliminates the n as in 
tornado

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-29 Thread Fred Olver
It puts a t in where there should be a d. Also, it eliminates the n as in 
tornado
  - Original Message - 
  From: Debby Hill 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:30 AM
  Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?


  Hi,

  I have an iPhhone 8 and my default voice is Samantha the regular not 
enhanced. It says "yestertay" instead of "yesterday." This morning for kicks I 
tried the Siri female voice and Susan Enhanced, and "yesterday" was still 
pronounced "yestertay." So I am concluding that it doesn't matter what voice 
you use, this must be some basic algorithm problem. Since it is annoying, I 
just might have to give in and change the ⠏⠗⠕⠝⠥⠝⠉⠊⠠⠝⠲ Oh well!

  Take care!

  Debby

  On Mar 28, 2020 12:13 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I have a theory, then I’ll tell you how to fix it if you still need to.

If the default voice under VoiceOver Speech is a Siri voice, try changing 
it to something else and see if that fixes it.

You may also want to change the Siri Language under Siri Settings to 
something other than American English.  Not sure if that matters, but that was 
a work around to get rid of the stupid transcriptions on voice mail.

If it still mispronounces yesterday, go to the VoiceOver Speech settings, 
pronunciation.

Add yesterday spelled correctly and in the substitution edit field, spell 
it with u r instead of e r so yesturday

I also make sure it is set to apply to all languages.









Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:38 AM
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I don’t know why Voice-over pronounces Yesterday. How do you fix it. Surly, 
Apple must be awar of this and will fix it.



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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:12 PM
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    Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
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I noticed it with the default Samantha bvoice also. I changed the spelling 
in pronounciation  and it solved the problem. 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:10:37 PM UTC-4, Alan Lemly wrote:

  Hi List,



  I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now 
but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 
8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced 
as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting 
this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am 
curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent 
app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I 
got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.



  Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.



  Alan Lemly

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-28 Thread Richard Turner
What’s fascinating about this, is my phone was not doing this for a couple of 
days after Alan brought this up, and suddenly began saying yestertay a day or 
so ago.
It doesn’t matter the voice combination after all.
So, maybe apple can figure out what suddenly caused the change.
My guess is it is something on their servers.

I’m not going to fix it so that if it actually is fixed by Apple, I’ll know it 
when I happen to come across that word.


Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby 
Hill
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?


Hi,

I have an iPhhone 8 and my default voice is Samantha the regular not enhanced. 
It says "yestertay" instead of "yesterday." This morning for kicks I tried the 
Siri female voice and Susan Enhanced, and "yesterday" was still pronounced 
"yestertay." So I am concluding that it doesn't matter what voice you use, this 
must be some basic algorithm problem. Since it is annoying, I just might have 
to give in and change the ⠏⠗⠕⠝⠥⠝⠉⠊⠠⠝⠲ Oh well!

Take care!

Debby
On Mar 28, 2020 12:13 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I have a theory, then I’ll tell you how to fix it if you still need to.

If the default voice under VoiceOver Speech is a Siri voice, try changing it to 
something else and see if that fixes it.

You may also want to change the Siri Language under Siri Settings to something 
other than American English.  Not sure if that matters, but that was a work 
around to get rid of the stupid transcriptions on voice mail.

If it still mispronounces yesterday, go to the VoiceOver Speech settings, 
pronunciation.

Add yesterday spelled correctly and in the substitution edit field, spell it 
with u r instead of e r so yesturday

I also make sure it is set to apply to all languages.









Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.





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Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
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I don’t know why Voice-over pronounces Yesterday. How do you fix it. Surly, 
Apple must be awar of this and will fix it.



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I noticed it with the default Samantha bvoice also. I changed the spelling in 
pronounciation  and it solved the problem.

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:10:37 PM UTC-4, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi List,



I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.



Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.



Alan Lemly

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-28 Thread Debby Hill
Hi,
I have an iPhhone 8 and my default voice is Samantha the regular not enhanced. It says "yestertay" instead of "yesterday." This morning for kicks I tried the Siri female voice and Susan Enhanced, and "yesterday" was still pronounced "yestertay." So I am concluding that it doesn't matter what voice you use, this must be some basic algorithm problem. Since it is annoying, I just might have to give in and change the ⠏⠗⠕⠝⠥⠝⠉⠊⠠⠝⠲ Oh well!
Take care!
Debby
On Mar 28, 2020 12:13 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I have a theory, then I’ll tell you how to fix it if you still need to.
If the default voice under VoiceOver Speech is a Siri voice, try changing it to something else and see if that fixes it.
You may also want to change the Siri Language under Siri Settings to something other than American English.  Not sure if that matters, but that was a work around to get rid of the stupid transcriptions on voice mail.
If it still mispronounces yesterday, go to the VoiceOver Speech settings, pronunciation.
Add yesterday spelled correctly and in the substitution edit field, spell it with u r instead of e r so yesturday
I also make sure it is set to apply to all languages.
 
 
 

 
Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
 

 


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I don’t know why Voice-over pronounces Yesterday. How do you fix it. Surly, Apple must be awar of this and will fix it.
 
From: 'cwc' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>

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I noticed it with the default Samantha bvoice also. I changed the spelling in pronounciation  and it solved the problem. 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:10:37 PM UTC-4, Alan Lemly wrote:



Hi List,
 
I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have
 problems with the pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d.
 I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of
 hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
 
Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
 
Alan Lemly




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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-28 Thread Richard Turner
I have a theory, then I’ll tell you how to fix it if you still need to.
If the default voice under VoiceOver Speech is a Siri voice, try changing it to 
something else and see if that fixes it.
You may also want to change the Siri Language under Siri Settings to something 
other than American English.  Not sure if that matters, but that was a work 
around to get rid of the stupid transcriptions on voice mail.
If it still mispronounces yesterday, go to the VoiceOver Speech settings, 
pronunciation.
Add yesterday spelled correctly and in the substitution edit field, spell it 
with u r instead of e r so yesturday
I also make sure it is set to apply to all languages.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


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I don’t know why Voice-over pronounces Yesterday. How do you fix it. Surly, 
Apple must be awar of this and will fix it.

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I noticed it with the default Samantha bvoice also. I changed the spelling in 
pronounciation  and it solved the problem.

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:10:37 PM UTC-4, Alan Lemly wrote:
Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

Alan Lemly
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-28 Thread kevinwassmer
I don’t know why Voice-over pronounces Yesterday. How do you fix it. Surly, 
Apple must be awar of this and will fix it.

 

From: 'cwc' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:12 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

I noticed it with the default Samantha bvoice also. I changed the spelling in 
pronounciation  and it solved the problem. 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:10:37 PM UTC-4, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi List,

 

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

 

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread R Van Lant
I just thought it was a Facebook thing. I guess I haven’t run into the word 
yesterday on any other app yet to see how it’s pronounced.    Funny,, I still 
occasionally say corona virus incorrectly, emulating the way VoiceOver runs it 
together and puts emphasis on the wrong syllable.  I tend to save my self now 
and just call it covid.




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I have the same problem and I am running 13.3 on an iPhone 11 Pro.  I am also 
using samantha as my voice.

Chris
1 r.



On Mar 26, 2020, at 10:02 AM, MamaPeach 
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I have a 6s+

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The person who started this topic is using an XR and someone else with the 
issue had an 8 plus, I have an SE and the only voice that has this issue, minor 
though it may be, is the Siri Female American voice.
No other voices, in VoiceOver, or Siri have this pronunciation qwerk.
And if folks running 13.3 are experiencing it with Samantha, then it most 
certainly is a gremlin that should no longer be fed.



Richard
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upgrade?

I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs on 
certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this issue & 
several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue.  Maybe I 
missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 8 needs to 
chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & has this 
pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to solving it if 
the problem only occurred on certain models.

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Richard,

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle.
And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.


Richard
"There's a nap for that."
Sent from my iPhone
Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C5ae4adfa95c24217ba0908d7d18943b1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637208259778857983=hJhpSt5kpp%2BegjPydz%2FKEO%2BgKNOIp9oGv5kVOOYTKJs%3D=0>
“



On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]> On 
Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Wednesday, Mar

Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread 'cwc' via VIPhone
I noticed it with the default Samantha bvoice also. I changed the spelling 
in pronounciation  and it solved the problem. 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:10:37 PM UTC-4, Alan Lemly wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
>  
>
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>
>  
>
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>
>  
>
> Alan Lemly
>

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I still haven't upgraded my iPhone from 12.41 and at this point I'm
not going to.  For me, my iPhone is working perfectly fine and I can
do everything I want on it.  There isn't any new feature that I don't
have because I haven't upgraded my iPhone.

On 3/26/20, Eric Caron  wrote:
> Actually,  With all the stressors going on I have greatly enjoyed this
> thread and seeing how my phone is reacting the same or differently.  And,
> you never know, When Apple solves this it might help in preventing or
> solving other things.
>
> On my 10S running 13.4 I hear the T in Yesterday with the Maile Siri voice
> and not with Alex.  I didn’t look beyond that.  I just enjoyed the curiosity
> of it.
>
> Please, despite some peoples frustrations keep posting your observations.
>
> A little light hearted tech conversation is welcome.
>
> Eric Caron
>
>
>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 2:27 PM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> With all the problems we are facing these days, some of you really need to
>> get a life!
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS
>> 13.4 upgrade?
>>
>> Actually, I'm the person who started the thread and I have an iPhone 8. I
>> thought it was an iOS 13.4 issue since I noticed it after upgrading to
>> 13.4 but apparently others who have not yet upgraded are also noticing it.
>> I've reported it to Apple Accessibility and will not comment further on
>> the issue since I realize it's minuscule in the scheme of things. However,
>> I personally don't want Voiceover to start mispronouncing words it
>> previously pronounced correctly which seems to be happening with more
>> frequency.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS
>> 13.4 upgrade?
>>
>> The person who started this topic is using an XR and someone else with the
>> issue had an 8 plus, I have an SE and the only voice that has this issue,
>> minor though it may be, is the Siri Female American voice.
>> No other voices, in VoiceOver, or Siri have this pronunciation qwerk.
>> And if folks running 13.3 are experiencing it with Samantha, then it most
>> certainly is a gremlin that should no longer be fed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
>> Oregon.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS
>> 13.4 upgrade?
>>
>> I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only
>> occurs on certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8
>> has this issue & several that mention they have a newer model & do not
>> have the issue.  Maybe I missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think
>> everyone who has an 8 needs to chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone
>> who has a newer model & has this pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It
>> would go a long way to solving it if the problem only occurred on certain
>> models.
>>
>> Sherry Wells
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS
>> 13.4 upgrade?
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday
>> to correct this issue without success until I was successful now by
>> spelling the substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable
>> as t u r instead of t e r. For some strange reaso

Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread Eric Caron
Actually,  With all the stressors going on I have greatly enjoyed this thread 
and seeing how my phone is reacting the same or differently.  And, you never 
know, When Apple solves this it might help in preventing or solving other 
things.

On my 10S running 13.4 I hear the T in Yesterday with the Maile Siri voice and 
not with Alex.  I didn’t look beyond that.  I just enjoyed the curiosity of it.

Please, despite some peoples frustrations keep posting your observations.  

A little light hearted tech conversation is welcome.

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 26, 2020, at 2:27 PM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> With all the problems we are facing these days, some of you really need to 
> get a life!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> Actually, I'm the person who started the thread and I have an iPhone 8. I 
> thought it was an iOS 13.4 issue since I noticed it after upgrading to 13.4 
> but apparently others who have not yet upgraded are also noticing it. I've 
> reported it to Apple Accessibility and will not comment further on the issue 
> since I realize it's minuscule in the scheme of things. However, I personally 
> don't want Voiceover to start mispronouncing words it previously pronounced 
> correctly which seems to be happening with more frequency.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> The person who started this topic is using an XR and someone else with the 
> issue had an 8 plus, I have an SE and the only voice that has this issue, 
> minor though it may be, is the Siri Female American voice.
> No other voices, in VoiceOver, or Siri have this pronunciation qwerk.
> And if folks running 13.3 are experiencing it with Samantha, then it most 
> certainly is a gremlin that should no longer be fed.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs 
> on certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this 
> issue & several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue. 
>  Maybe I missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 
> 8 needs to chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & 
> has this pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to 
> solving it if the problem only occurred on certain models.
>  
> Sherry Wells
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> Richard,
>  
> I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
> correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
> substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead 
> of t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling 
> the substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
> pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.
>  
> Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit 
> perplexing considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:

RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread richring
With all the problems we are facing these days, some of you really need to get 
a life!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Actually, I'm the person who started the thread and I have an iPhone 8. I 
thought it was an iOS 13.4 issue since I noticed it after upgrading to 13.4 but 
apparently others who have not yet upgraded are also noticing it. I've reported 
it to Apple Accessibility and will not comment further on the issue since I 
realize it's minuscule in the scheme of things. However, I personally don't 
want Voiceover to start mispronouncing words it previously pronounced correctly 
which seems to be happening with more frequency.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

The person who started this topic is using an XR and someone else with the 
issue had an 8 plus, I have an SE and the only voice that has this issue, minor 
though it may be, is the Siri Female American voice.

No other voices, in VoiceOver, or Siri have this pronunciation qwerk.

And if folks running 13.3 are experiencing it with Samantha, then it most 
certainly is a gremlin that should no longer be fed.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs on 
certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this issue & 
several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue.  Maybe I 
missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 8 needs to 
chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & has this 
pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to solving it if 
the problem only occurred on certain models.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Richard,

 

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

 

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle. 

And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

 

Richard 

"There's a nap for that." 

Sent from my iPhone

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C5ae4adfa95c24217ba0908d7d18943b1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637208259778857983=hJhpSt5kpp%2BegjPydz%2FKEO%2BgKNOIp9oGv5kVOOYTKJs%3D=0>
 

“

 

 

On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronou

RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread Alan Lemly
Actually, I'm the person who started the thread and I have an iPhone 8. I 
thought it was an iOS 13.4 issue since I noticed it after upgrading to 13.4 but 
apparently others who have not yet upgraded are also noticing it. I've reported 
it to Apple Accessibility and will not comment further on the issue since I 
realize it's minuscule in the scheme of things. However, I personally don't 
want Voiceover to start mispronouncing words it previously pronounced correctly 
which seems to be happening with more frequency.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

The person who started this topic is using an XR and someone else with the 
issue had an 8 plus, I have an SE and the only voice that has this issue, minor 
though it may be, is the Siri Female American voice.

No other voices, in VoiceOver, or Siri have this pronunciation qwerk.

And if folks running 13.3 are experiencing it with Samantha, then it most 
certainly is a gremlin that should no longer be fed.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs on 
certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this issue & 
several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue.  Maybe I 
missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 8 needs to 
chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & has this 
pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to solving it if 
the problem only occurred on certain models.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Richard,

 

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

 

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle. 

And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

 

Richard 

"There's a nap for that." 

Sent from my iPhone

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C5ae4adfa95c24217ba0908d7d18943b1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637208259778857983=hJhpSt5kpp%2BegjPydz%2FKEO%2BgKNOIp9oGv5kVOOYTKJs%3D=0>
 

“

 

 

On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Holly
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
voices.

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I pointed out in my post that while this was a relatively miner bug, it’s 
nonetheless annoying especially if it’s introduced now when we are probably 
already on the last major release of iOS 13.
Just because it’s not an actual accessibility issue since it doesn’t reduce 
accessibility, it doesn’t mean Apple should get away with it.
I know for sighted people the icons which for us are spoken with text labels 
are often just pictures, e.g. the Phone app shows a telephone, the “Dictate” 
button I think shows a microphone or something like that, but take this 
“yesterday” issue, how quickly do you think it would be fixed if Apple suddenly 
misspelled the word yesterday as “yestertay” everywhere it occurred?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Wow, if this is the biggest issue for VO in 13.4, what is the big discussion 
about?
Best,
Terri

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Richard,

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle.
And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.


Richard
"There's a nap for that."
Sent from my iPhone
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On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

Alan Lemly

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I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?; Follow-up: 732262148

2020-03-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I received the same reply about 4 months ago regarding how the US SIRI Female 
voice says “ticktite” instead of “dictate”
But I’ll be pleasantly surprised if they fix it quicker.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?; Follow-up: 732262148

This is the response I received from Apple Accessibility.  Those who said it 
would do no good to contact them should read ahead.
From: Apple Accessibility 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:53 AM
To: richardturne...@outlook.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?; Follow-up: 732262148

Hi Richard,

Thank you for taking the time to bring this to our attention. While we aren’t 
able to reply all to the email group, you are welcome to pass this information 
along.
We were able to observe this behavior in our testing, and have reported this to 
the appropriate team for investigation.

Sincerely,

Apple Accessibility



On March 26, 2020 at 05:05:57 AM GMT, 
richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

I'm copying Apple Accessibility with this message since we are getting very 
different results.
Holly, you asked Siri to spell yesterday, and the American female said 
"yestertay" but spelled it with a d.
I did the same thing but the Siri American Female said "yesterday" and spelled 
it with the d, of course.
But, the Siri American male voice said, "yestertay", and spelled with the d.
I could not get any other voice, Siri or VoiceOver to say "yestertay."
However, others have had samantha and tom, and others say yesterday as 
yestertay.
This all makes less than no sense and is probably impossible to track down 
since it is not a consistent bug.
Since Apple is likely done with iOS 13 now those who are bothered by this are 
probably stuck with it until at least iOS 14.
HTH,


Richard
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I asked Siri to spell ‘yesterday’  She said it with a t, but spelled it with a 
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?; Follow-up: 732262148

2020-03-26 Thread Afik Souffir

Its happends to me also with Ava

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Turner 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:01:20 PM
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Subject: FW: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?; Follow-up: 732262148


This is the response I received from Apple Accessibility.  Those who said it 
would do no good to contact them should read ahead.

From: Apple Accessibility 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:53 AM
To: richardturne...@outlook.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?; Follow-up: 732262148



Hi Richard,



Thank you for taking the time to bring this to our attention. While we aren’t 
able to reply all to the email group, you are welcome to pass this information 
along.

We were able to observe this behavior in our testing, and have reported this to 
the appropriate team for investigation.



Sincerely,



Apple Accessibility







On March 26, 2020 at 05:05:57 AM GMT, 
richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


I'm copying Apple Accessibility with this message since we are getting very 
different results.

Holly, you asked Siri to spell yesterday, and the American female said 
"yestertay" but spelled it with a d.

I did the same thing but the Siri American Female said "yesterday" and spelled 
it with the d, of course.

But, the Siri American male voice said, "yestertay", and spelled with the d.

I could not get any other voice, Siri or VoiceOver to say "yestertay."

However, others have had samantha and tom, and others say yesterday as 
yestertay.

This all makes less than no sense and is probably impossible to track down 
since it is not a consistent bug.

Since Apple is likely done with iOS 13 now those who are bothered by this are 
probably stuck with it until at least iOS 14.

HTH,





Richard

"There's a nap for that."

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I asked Siri to spell ‘yesterday’  She said it with a t, but spelled it with a 
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FW: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?; Follow-up: 732262148

2020-03-26 Thread Richard Turner
This is the response I received from Apple Accessibility.  Those who said it 
would do no good to contact them should read ahead.
From: Apple Accessibility 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:53 AM
To: richardturne...@outlook.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?; Follow-up: 732262148

Hi Richard,

Thank you for taking the time to bring this to our attention. While we aren’t 
able to reply all to the email group, you are welcome to pass this information 
along.
We were able to observe this behavior in our testing, and have reported this to 
the appropriate team for investigation.

Sincerely,

Apple Accessibility



On March 26, 2020 at 05:05:57 AM GMT, 
richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


I'm copying Apple Accessibility with this message since we are getting very 
different results.
Holly, you asked Siri to spell yesterday, and the American female said 
"yestertay" but spelled it with a d.
I did the same thing but the Siri American Female said "yesterday" and spelled 
it with the d, of course.
But, the Siri American male voice said, "yestertay", and spelled with the d.
I could not get any other voice, Siri or VoiceOver to say "yestertay."
However, others have had samantha and tom, and others say yesterday as 
yestertay.
This all makes less than no sense and is probably impossible to track down 
since it is not a consistent bug.
Since Apple is likely done with iOS 13 now those who are bothered by this are 
probably stuck with it until at least iOS 14.
HTH,



Richard
"There's a nap for that."
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I asked Siri to spell ‘yesterday’  She said it with a t, but spelled it with a 
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Have you written to accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> to 
complain about how it’s not very encouraging when such bugs are introduced half 
way throughout the life cycle of an iOS release? I noticed how literally dozens 
of people replied to this, but I wonder how many wrote to 
accessbibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessbibil...@apple.com>. If they suddenly 
received 500 messages from people around the English speaking world they will 
be a lot more likely to take this seriously.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby 
Hill
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?


Hi All,

Someone may have mentioned this earlier, but I am going to repeat it because it 
is just weird! I have not updated to 13.4; I am using 13.3.1. Yesterday all of 
a ⠎⠥⠲⠢ Samantha started pronouncing "yesterday" as "yestertay." At first I 
thought that maybe I had been missing something, but the pronunciation is so 
jarring, I don't think I could have missed it. I am using ⠤⠏⠁⠉⠞ ⠠⠎⠁⠍⠁⠝⠹⠁⠲ I 
wonder what in the world caused such a weird change.

Take care!

Debby
On Mar 26, 2020 4:37 AM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
It doesn't change anything!
Lyne

Le 25 mars 2020 à 23:50, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> a écrit :
Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle.
And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.



Richard
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On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.



Alan Lemly



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I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread Chris Chaffin

I have the same problem and I am running 13.3 on an iPhone 11 Pro.  I am also 
using samantha as my voice.

Chris
1 r.


> On Mar 26, 2020, at 10:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a 6s+
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> The person who started this topic is using an XR and someone else with the 
> issue had an 8 plus, I have an SE and the only voice that has this issue, 
> minor though it may be, is the Siri Female American voice.
> No other voices, in VoiceOver, or Siri have this pronunciation qwerk.
> And if folks running 13.3 are experiencing it with Samantha, then it most 
> certainly is a gremlin that should no longer be fed.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> sherrywells1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs 
> on certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this 
> issue & several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue. 
>  Maybe I missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 
> 8 needs to chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & 
> has this pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to 
> solving it if the problem only occurred on certain models.
>  
> Sherry Wells
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> Richard,
>  
> I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
> correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
> substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead 
> of t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling 
> the substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
> pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.
>  
> Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit 
> perplexing considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into 
> VoiceOver settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the 
> substitution as yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may 
> have a bit of a pause in the middle.
> And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it 
> is, I wouldn't hold my breath.
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that."
> Sent from my iPhone
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “
>  
>  
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm 
> using Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. 
> When I got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Holly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two 
> separate voices.
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread MamaPeach
I have a 6s+

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

The person who started this topic is using an XR and someone else with the 
issue had an 8 plus, I have an SE and the only voice that has this issue, minor 
though it may be, is the Siri Female American voice.

No other voices, in VoiceOver, or Siri have this pronunciation qwerk.

And if folks running 13.3 are experiencing it with Samantha, then it most 
certainly is a gremlin that should no longer be fed.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs on 
certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this issue & 
several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue.  Maybe I 
missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 8 needs to 
chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & has this 
pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to solving it if 
the problem only occurred on certain models.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Richard,

 

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

 

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle. 

And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

 

Richard 

"There's a nap for that." 

Sent from my iPhone

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“

 

 

On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

   

  Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm 
using Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. 
When I got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

   

  Alan Lemly

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Holly
  Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:21 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

   

  I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two 
separate voices.

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread Richard Turner
The person who started this topic is using an XR and someone else with the 
issue had an 8 plus, I have an SE and the only voice that has this issue, minor 
though it may be, is the Siri Female American voice.
No other voices, in VoiceOver, or Siri have this pronunciation qwerk.
And if folks running 13.3 are experiencing it with Samantha, then it most 
certainly is a gremlin that should no longer be fed.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs on 
certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this issue & 
several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue.  Maybe I 
missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 8 needs to 
chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & has this 
pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to solving it if 
the problem only occurred on certain models.

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Richard,

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle.
And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.


Richard
"There's a nap for that."
Sent from my iPhone
Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C5ae4adfa95c24217ba0908d7d18943b1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637208259778857983=hJhpSt5kpp%2BegjPydz%2FKEO%2BgKNOIp9oGv5kVOOYTKJs%3D=0>
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On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

Alan Lemly

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]> On 
Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
voices.
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread MamaPeach

Me too, I noticed it a few days ago and I have not updated.

-Original Message- 
From: Sharonda Greenlaw

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?


On 3/25/20, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
This is not a 13.4 bug.  I am running 13.3 and I just noticed it while 
doing

app updates.  I am running Samantha enhanced.  Strange, I have not noticed
it before, but it is definitely there.

Chris



On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Richard Turner 
wrote:

And, I'm not experiencing it with any voice.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS
13.4 upgrade?

Alex,
You quoted the original sender as part of the reply thead.
If you read through the messages, you'll find them listed in the message
from Alan Lemley.



Richard
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Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS
13.4 upgrade?

Which voice are we talking about here?


On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:

Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like
yestertay. I'm using Tom enhanced.

Rebecca Ilniski
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:

Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.


On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:

Hello all,

While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I
definitely hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri
voice.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner

wrote:

 Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced,
the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like
a t sound.
iPhone SE.



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On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on
now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the
pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to
iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last
syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins
with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this
same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced
and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing
a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged
with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced
as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

Alan Lemly
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
On 3/25/20, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> This is not a 13.4 bug.  I am running 13.3 and I just noticed it while doing
> app updates.  I am running Samantha enhanced.  Strange, I have not noticed
> it before, but it is definitely there.
>
> Chris
>
>
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> And, I'm not experiencing it with any voice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
>> Oregon.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS
>> 13.4 upgrade?
>>
>> Alex,
>> You quoted the original sender as part of the reply thead.
>> If you read through the messages, you'll find them listed in the message
>> from Alan Lemley.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
>> Oregon.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Alex Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS
>> 13.4 upgrade?
>>
>> Which voice are we talking about here?
>>
>>> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like
>>> yestertay. I'm using Tom enhanced.
>>>
>>> Rebecca Ilniski
>>> email: rilni...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter: applegirl1994
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
>>>
>>>>> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I
>>>> definitely hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri
>>>> voice.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced,
>>>>> the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>>>>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like
>>>>> a t sound.
>>>>> iPhone SE.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> "There's a nap for that."
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> Check out my web site at:
>>>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com
>>>>> data=02%7C01%7C%7C40c1fd1469e340cb13d108d7d0f05fae%7C84df9e7fe9
>>>>> f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637207603117946073sdata=WtRDXP
>>>>> wf5rGWOqRqPgP8iq4VBq6UBE2YoqgJ9bRuy5k%3Dreserved=0
>>>>> “
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on
>>>>>>> now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the
>>>>>>> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to
>>>>>>> iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last
>>>>>>> syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins
>>>>>>> with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this
>>>>>>> same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced
>>>>>>> and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing
>>>>>>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged
>>>>>>> with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced
>>>>>>> as yesterTay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> The follow

RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread sherrywells1157
I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs on 
certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this issue & 
several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue.  Maybe I 
missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 8 needs to 
chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & has this 
pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to solving it if 
the problem only occurred on certain models.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Richard,

 

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

 

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle. 

And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

 

Richard 

"There's a nap for that." 

Sent from my iPhone

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
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On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
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I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread territek
Wow, if this is the biggest issue for VO in 13.4, what is the big discussion 
about?

Best,

Terri

 

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Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Richard,

 

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

 

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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upgrade?

 

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle. 

And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

 

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On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread Debby Hill
Hi All,
Someone may have mentioned this earlier, but I am going to repeat it because it is just weird! I have not updated to 13.4; I am using 13.3.1. Yesterday all of a ⠎⠥⠲⠢ Samantha started pronouncing "yesterday" as "yestertay." At first I thought that maybe I had been missing something, but the pronunciation is so jarring, I don't think I could have missed it. I am using ⠤⠏⠁⠉⠞ ⠠⠎⠁⠍⠁⠝⠹⠁⠲ I wonder what in the world caused such a weird change.
Take care!
Debby  
On Mar 26, 2020 4:37 AM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:It doesn't change anything!LyneLe 25 mars 2020 à 23:50, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> a écrit :




Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a pause in the middle.
And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, I wouldn't hold my breath.





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On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@gmail.com> wrote:






 


Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I got Siri to say
 it, she also mispronounces it.
 
Alan Lemly
 


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I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate voices.



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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread l . d . ethier23
It doesn't change anything!

Lyne

> Le 25 mars 2020 à 23:50, Richard Turner  a écrit 
> :
> 
> Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into 
> VoiceOver settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the 
> substitution as yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may 
> have a bit of a pause in the middle.
> And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it 
> is, I wouldn't hold my breath.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> “
> 
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm 
>> using Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. 
>> When I got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Holly
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2020-03-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Listen to my screen recording and tell me what you think, sounds like “tay” to 
me.


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I'm copying Apple Accessibility with this message since we are getting very 
different results.
Holly, you asked Siri to spell yesterday, and the American female said 
"yestertay" but spelled it with a d.
I did the same thing but the Siri American Female said "yesterday" and spelled 
it with the d, of course.
But, the Siri American male voice said, "yestertay", and spelled with the d.
I could not get any other voice, Siri or VoiceOver to say "yestertay."
However, others have had samantha and tom, and others say yesterday as 
yestertay.
This all makes less than no sense and is probably impossible to track down 
since it is not a consistent bug.
Since Apple is likely done with iOS 13 now those who are bothered by this are 
probably stuck with it until at least iOS 14.
HTH,



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I asked Siri to spell ‘yesterday’  She said it with a t, but spelled it with a 
d.
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Holly
Richard:

Yes, this is a very strange behavior.  Guess the best thing to do is forget 
about yesterday and just think about tomorrow.  LOL!

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Richard Turner
I'm copying Apple Accessibility with this message since we are getting very 
different results.
Holly, you asked Siri to spell yesterday, and the American female said 
"yestertay" but spelled it with a d.
I did the same thing but the Siri American Female said "yesterday" and spelled 
it with the d, of course.
But, the Siri American male voice said, "yestertay", and spelled with the d.
I could not get any other voice, Siri or VoiceOver to say "yestertay."
However, others have had samantha and tom, and others say yesterday as 
yestertay.
This all makes less than no sense and is probably impossible to track down 
since it is not a consistent bug.
Since Apple is likely done with iOS 13 now those who are bothered by this are 
probably stuck with it until at least iOS 14.
HTH,



Richard
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On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Holly  wrote:


I asked Siri to spell ‘yesterday’  She said it with a t, but spelled it with a 
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Alan Lemly
Richard,

 

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

 

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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upgrade?

 

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle. 

And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.

 





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On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread J. Cyr
I mentioned this issue earlier today when I called Apple Accessibility on an 
unrelated matter.  That advisor hadn't heard of and could not duplicate the 
problem.  I downloaded the update this evening and I too have both Samantha and 
Siri pronouncing yesterday as yestertay.  So I called Apple Accessibility back 
to report it.  Again this advisor had not heard of this issue.  It would seem 
that the more people who are experiencing the problem and contact Accessibility 
the better.  It would be ood to get it as a topic trending on their feed.

Joy


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Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.
 
Alan Lemly
 
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Holly
I asked Siri to spell ‘yesterday’  She said it with a t, but spelled it with a 
d.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Richard Turner
Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle.
And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.



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Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

Alan Lemly

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Alan Lemly
Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Richard Turner
I did more experimenting.

If I set VoiceOver to use the Siri American Female, or got Siri to say the word 
Yesterday, it sounded normal.
When I switched to the Siri American Male, it said yestertay  with the t 
instead of a d as in day.
But for me, no other VoiceOver voice mispronounced yesterday.

So, now that this horse has been beaten to death, I’m going to leave this 
thread alone.
No company can really sort out a bug that is completely inconsistent.  So, 
whatever crept into some voices that screw up the pronunciation perhaps will go 
away after the next update.
Or not.
Very odd stuff this.

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Richard Turner
Wayne,
Alan, who began this thread, specifically said he was using VoiceOver, not Siri.

He mentioned Samantha and Tom.

I have no issues with any voice in VoiceOver.

Now, are you saying that you have tried it with VoiceOver using the Siri 
female, or just asking Siri to say Yesterday, or what?




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With Siri female, it pronounces it yestertay. But, I don't use speech very 
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On Mar 25, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Anne West 
mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It looks like voice over doesn’t know the difference between letters D and T.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julian
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
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upgrade?

Hello all,

While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely 
hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.

Sent from my iPhone



On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
iPhone SE.




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Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Wayne Scott
With Siri female, it pronounces it yestertay. But, I don't use speech very 
often. like

Wayne Scott 

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> On Mar 25, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Anne West  wrote:
> 
> 
> It looks like voice over doesn’t know the difference between letters D and T.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
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> upgrade?
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> Hello all,
>  
> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely 
> hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
> english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
> iPhone SE.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a 
> list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>  
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>  
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Richard Turner
It works fine on my SE.
So, I am of the opinion that VoiceOver knows the difference just fine.



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On Mar 25, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Anne West  wrote:


It looks like voice over doesn’t know the difference between letters D and T.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 14:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Hello all,

While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely 
hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
iPhone SE.



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Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
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notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
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others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
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hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Holly
I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
voices.

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Anne West
It looks like voice over doesn’t know the difference between letters D and T.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 14:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Hello all,

 

While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely 
hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen. 

I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.

iPhone SE.

 





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On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi List,

 

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

 

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Gordon
I had this same issue when 13 first came out back in September. Some 
people said there's was working fine and had no clue what I was talking 
about. But others were having the same issue I was having. So yeah, this 
is very strange.


On 3/25/2020 4:31 PM, Cris Ali wrote:
It is very strange! I have XR and Samantha pronounce yesterday with a 
t, like yestertay.

Regards


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Gordon  wrote:



I have the 10R and am not experiencing this. I upgraded yesterday and 
have done several tests using several different voices. I use 
Samantha compact every day, but I tried Tom, Alex and a couple of 
others.


On 3/25/2020 3:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:


Richard,

That is very interesting that the same voice yields different 
results on different iPhone models. I'll be curious what others report.


Alan

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iOS 13.4 upgrade?


Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, 
the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.


I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like 
a t sound.


iPhone SE.



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Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going
on now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with
the pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I
upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that
the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if
it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm
getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced
and Tom enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing
it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App
Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired
of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Cris Ali
It is very strange! I have XR and Samantha pronounce yesterday with a t, like 
yestertay.
Regards


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Gordon  wrote:



I have the 10R and am not experiencing this. I upgraded yesterday and have done 
several tests using several different voices. I use Samantha compact every day, 
but I tried Tom, Alex and a couple of others.

On 3/25/2020 3:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
Richard,

That is very interesting that the same voice yields different results on 
different iPhone models. I'll be curious what others report.

Alan

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upgrade?

Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
iPhone SE.



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notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
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hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Gordon
I have the 10R and am not experiencing this. I upgraded yesterday and 
have done several tests using several different voices. I use Samantha 
compact every day, but I tried Tom, Alex and a couple of others.


On 3/25/2020 3:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:


Richard,

That is very interesting that the same voice yields different results 
on different iPhone models. I'll be curious what others report.


Alan

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iOS 13.4 upgrade?


Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the 
Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.


I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a 
t sound.


iPhone SE.



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Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on
now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the
pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to
iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last
syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins
with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this
same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced
and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing
a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged
with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday
pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

Alan Lemly

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Alan Lemly
Richard,

 

That is very interesting that the same voice yields different results on 
different iPhone models. I'll be curious what others report.

 

Alan

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen. 

I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.

iPhone SE.

 





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On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Hi List,

 

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

 

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Holly

Richard:  In my case, Siri is mis-pronouncing it, not voice over.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Christina
I also want to add in case it’s of importance. My iPhone is an Eleven.
Christina

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Christina  wrote:
> 
> I’m getting the same thing. It started around 11 PM last night while I was 
> using my iPhone, and I haven’t even updated. I double checked, and I’m on 
> 13.3.1 and I’m using Samantha compact. I rebooted my iPhone and the weird 
> pronunciation of the word  “yesterday” persists.
> 
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Christina
I’m getting the same thing. It started around 11 PM last night while I was 
using my iPhone, and I haven’t even updated. I double checked, and I’m on 
13.3.1 and I’m using Samantha compact. I rebooted my iPhone and the weird 
pronunciation of the word  “yesterday” persists.

Christina

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a 
> list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>  
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Richard Turner
This is very odd that some people are experiencing it and others are not.

I don't have it with any voice.
I even had my wife listen and mine is saying it correctly.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

This is not a 13.4 bug.  I am running 13.3 and I just noticed it while doing 
app updates.  I am running Samantha enhanced.  Strange, I have not noticed it 
before, but it is definitely there.

Chris


> On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> And, I'm not experiencing it with any voice.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
> 
> Alex,
> You quoted the original sender as part of the reply thead.
> If you read through the messages, you'll find them listed in the message from 
> Alan Lemley.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
> 
> Which voice are we talking about here?
> 
>> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. 
>> I'm using Tom enhanced. 
>> 
>> Rebecca Ilniski
>> email: rilni...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: applegirl1994
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
>> 
>>>> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I 
>>> definitely hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, 
>>>> the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>>>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like 
>>>> a t sound.
>>>> iPhone SE.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> "There's a nap for that."
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> Check out my web site at: 
>>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.co
>>>> m
>>>> data=02%7C01%7C%7C40c1fd1469e340cb13d108d7d0f05fae%7C84df9e7fe
>>>> 9 
>>>> f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637207603117946073sdata=WtRDX
>>>> P
>>>> wf5rGWOqRqPgP8iq4VBq6UBE2YoqgJ9bRuy5k%3Dreserved=0
>>>> “
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going 
>>>>>> on now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with 
>>>>>> the pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded 
>>>>>> to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last 
>>>>>> syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins 
>>>>>> with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this 
>>>>>> same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
>>>>>> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was 
>>>>>> reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they 
>>>>>> are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday 
>>>>>> pronounced as yesterTay.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>>>>> 
>

Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Chris Chaffin
This is not a 13.4 bug.  I am running 13.3 and I just noticed it while doing 
app updates.  I am running Samantha enhanced.  Strange, I have not noticed it 
before, but it is definitely there.

Chris


> On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> And, I'm not experiencing it with any voice.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
> 
> Alex,
> You quoted the original sender as part of the reply thead.
> If you read through the messages, you'll find them listed in the message from 
> Alan Lemley.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
> 
> Which voice are we talking about here?
> 
>> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. 
>> I'm using Tom enhanced. 
>> 
>> Rebecca Ilniski
>> email: rilni...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: applegirl1994
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
>> 
>>>> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I 
>>> definitely hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, 
>>>> the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>>>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like 
>>>> a t sound.
>>>> iPhone SE.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> "There's a nap for that."
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> Check out my web site at: 
>>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com
>>>> data=02%7C01%7C%7C40c1fd1469e340cb13d108d7d0f05fae%7C84df9e7fe9
>>>> f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637207603117946073sdata=WtRDXP
>>>> wf5rGWOqRqPgP8iq4VBq6UBE2YoqgJ9bRuy5k%3Dreserved=0
>>>> “
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on 
>>>>>> now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the 
>>>>>> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to 
>>>>>> iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last 
>>>>>> syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins 
>>>>>> with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this 
>>>>>> same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced 
>>>>>> and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
>>>>>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged 
>>>>>> with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as 
>>>>>> yesterTay.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alan Lemly
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Richard Turner
Alex,
You quoted the original sender as part of the reply thead.
If you read through the messages, you'll find them listed in the message from 
Alan Lemley.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Which voice are we talking about here?

> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. 
> I'm using Tom enhanced. 
> 
> Rebecca Ilniski
> email: rilni...@gmail.com
> Twitter: applegirl1994
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
> 
>> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I 
>> definitely hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, 
>>> the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like 
>>> a t sound.
>>> iPhone SE.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that."
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Check out my web site at: 
>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com
>>> data=02%7C01%7C%7C40c1fd1469e340cb13d108d7d0f05fae%7C84df9e7fe9
>>> f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637207603117946073sdata=WtRDXP
>>> wf5rGWOqRqPgP8iq4VBq6UBE2YoqgJ9bRuy5k%3Dreserved=0
>>> “
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on 
>>>>> now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the 
>>>>> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to 
>>>>> iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last 
>>>>> syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins 
>>>>> with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this 
>>>>> same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced 
>>>>> and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
>>>>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged 
>>>>> with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as 
>>>>> yesterTay.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>>> --
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Richard Turner
And, I'm not experiencing it with any voice.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Alex,
You quoted the original sender as part of the reply thead.
If you read through the messages, you'll find them listed in the message from 
Alan Lemley.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Which voice are we talking about here?

> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. 
> I'm using Tom enhanced. 
> 
> Rebecca Ilniski
> email: rilni...@gmail.com
> Twitter: applegirl1994
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
> 
>> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I 
>> definitely hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, 
>>> the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like 
>>> a t sound.
>>> iPhone SE.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that."
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Check out my web site at: 
>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com
>>> data=02%7C01%7C%7C40c1fd1469e340cb13d108d7d0f05fae%7C84df9e7fe9
>>> f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637207603117946073sdata=WtRDXP
>>> wf5rGWOqRqPgP8iq4VBq6UBE2YoqgJ9bRuy5k%3Dreserved=0
>>> “
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on 
>>>>> now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the 
>>>>> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to 
>>>>> iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last 
>>>>> syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins 
>>>>> with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this 
>>>>> same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced 
>>>>> and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
>>>>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged 
>>>>> with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as 
>>>>> yesterTay.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>>> --
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>>>> iPhone list.
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Alex Stone
Which voice are we talking about here?

> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. 
> I'm using Tom enhanced. 
> 
> Rebecca Ilniski
> email: rilni...@gmail.com
> Twitter: applegirl1994
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
> 
>> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely
>> hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the
>>> Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t
>>> sound.
>>> iPhone SE.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that."
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>> “
>>> 
>>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now
> but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the
> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4
> yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word
> yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of
> with the letter d. I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both
> Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if others are also
> experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App
> Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing
> yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
> 
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
> 
> Alan Lemly
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Maria Reyes
I don't experience that with Alex, Samantha enhanced or Ava enhanced.

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> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:58 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Sometime it depens if you use iPhone or iPad... Could be different for same 
> voice.
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 25 mars 2020 à 14:32, Richard Turner  a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>> Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
>> english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t 
>> sound.
>> iPhone SE.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>>  
>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
>>> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
>>> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
>>> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
>>> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
>>> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
>>> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
>>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
>>> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>>>  
>>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>>  
>>> Alan Lemly
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread l . d . ethier23
Sometime it depens if you use iPhone or iPad... Could be different for same 
voice.

Lyne

> Le 25 mars 2020 à 14:32, Richard Turner  a écrit 
> :
> 
> Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
> english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
> iPhone SE.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." 
> Sent from my iPhone
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “
> 
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
>> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
>> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
>> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
>> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
>> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
>> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
>> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>>  
>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. I'm 
using Tom enhanced. 

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Twitter: applegirl1994

On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:

Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.

> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely
> hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the
>> Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t
>> sound.
>> iPhone SE.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
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>>> Hi List,
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>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now
>>> but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the
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>>> with the letter d. I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both
>>> Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if others are also
>>> experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App
>>> Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing
>>> yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>>> 
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Yolanda Thompson
Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.

On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely
> hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the
>> Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t
>> sound.
>> iPhone SE.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that."
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>>
 On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now
>>> but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the
>>> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4
>>> yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word
>>> yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of
>>> with the letter d. I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both
>>> Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if others are also
>>> experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App
>>> Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing
>>> yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>>
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Julian
Hello all,

While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely 
hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
> english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
> iPhone SE.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." 
> Sent from my iPhone
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
>> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
>> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
>> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
>> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
>> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
>> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
>> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>>  
>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>  
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Richard Turner
Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
iPhone SE.



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Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Lois Butterfield
Deffinitely the same here. Sounds pretty silly.

Take care,
Lois

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a 
> list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>  
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>  
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How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi List,

 

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but
I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of
certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my
iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now
pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d.
I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom
enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing
a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the
upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

 

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

 

Alan Lemly

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