RE: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
You don’t hold them at all, push them simultaneously and let go. If you hold 
for any number of seconds you are not actually turning off the phone but you 
perform a hard reset.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

Hi,

How long should one hold the Home and Power buttons in? (This is a 5S.) 
Certainly if I hold the Power button in for long enough together with the Home 
button, like four seconds, then the power turns off.

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
Hi,
Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.
Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.
Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI, Prizmo 
Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.
The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.
Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the text size. 
With VO on, this option apparently disappears.

I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak Screen 
doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, “sorry, 
there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl.

From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
Hi,

Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper 
app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to 
DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The 
search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search 
box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course 
a very tedious way to have to get through an article or articles.

Thoughts on this proposition?
Thanks.

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RE: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-18 Thread Richard Turner 
I think the results would be much like you have experienced with the newspaper. 
 Not very good.
Best to try and give the app developer feedback about it not working well with 
VoiceOver.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

Yes, got it. And OCR results are .. well  poor enough! Still, an 
improvement on not being able to get anything at all. Some words break through 
the fog.

Do you think/find that this technique could be used to render inaccessible 
screens in some apps in some way readable (or useable?) by us? (App that don’t 
do quite well with VoiceOver natively.)

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

just a second or so. You should hear the camera flash sound.
Richard


On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:
Hi,

Just so you know, sighted people can still see or read what’s on your screen, 
potentially, if brightness is at zero and screen curtain is off. If you’re not 
worried about someone reading your stuff over your shoulder, it’s not an issue. 
Best, Keith

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

hi,
The jury is out with regard to screen curtain and battery saving. The official 
position is: it doesn't save battery. my observation is: it probably does 
because when screen curtain is off and brightness is up the phone gets hotter! 
as heat is an expression of energy, this, probably, means that the phone is 
using more battery life. however, turning the brightness down as far as you  
comfortably can, definitely does save battery. these days, now that I can't see 
the screen at all, I have the brightness down to 0 and don't bother with the 
screen curtain.

just my thoughts, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 18 Jul 2017, at 09:59, Shaf Patel 
> wrote:

Doesn't Screen Curtain being turned on save battery, regardless of what the 
brightness level is set to?

On 7/18/2017 4:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
just add to what Richard said, remember to up your brightness if, like me, you 
keep it at zero for battery saving reasons.

Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 18 Jul 2017, at 02:50, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
Hi,
Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.
Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.
Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI, Prizmo 
Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.
The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.
Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the text size. 
With VO on, this option apparently disappears.

I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak Screen 
doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, “sorry, 
there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl.

From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
Hi,

Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper 
app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to 
DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The 
search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search 
box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course 
a very tedious way to have to get

Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-18 Thread Flor Lynch 
Yes, got it. And OCR results are .. well  poor enough! Still, an 
improvement on not being able to get anything at all. Some words break through 
the fog. 

Do you think/find that this technique could be used to render inaccessible 
screens in some apps in some way readable (or useable?) by us? (App that don’t 
do quite well with VoiceOver natively.)  

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

just a second or so. You should hear the camera flash sound.
Richard


On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:


  Hi,

   

  Just so you know, sighted people can still see or read what’s on your screen, 
potentially, if brightness is at zero and screen curtain is off. If you’re not 
worried about someone reading your stuff over your shoulder, it’s not an issue. 
Best, Keith

   

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:58 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external 
scanner?

   

  hi,
  The jury is out with regard to screen curtain and battery saving. The 
official position is: it doesn't save battery. my observation is: it probably 
does because when screen curtain is off and brightness is up the phone gets 
hotter! as heat is an expression of energy, this, probably, means that the 
phone is using more battery life. however, turning the brightness down as far 
as you  comfortably can, definitely does save battery. these days, now that I 
can't see the screen at all, I have the brightness down to 0 and don't bother 
with the screen curtain.

   

  just my thoughts, Sandy


  sent from the dark side of the moon


  On 18 Jul 2017, at 09:59, Shaf Patel  wrote:

Doesn't Screen Curtain being turned on save battery, regardless of what the 
brightness level is set to?

 

On 7/18/2017 4:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

  just add to what Richard said, remember to up your brightness if, like 
me, you keep it at zero for battery saving reasons.

   

  Sandy

  sent from the dark side of the moon


  On 18 Jul 2017, at 02:50, Richard Turner  
wrote:

Hi,

Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.

Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.

Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI, 
Prizmo Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.

The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.

Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external 
scanner?

 

With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the 
text size. With VO on, this option apparently disappears. 

 

I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak 
Screen doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, 
“sorry, there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl. 

 

From: Flor Lynch 

Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external 
scanner?

Hi, 

 

Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of 
an article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper 
app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to 
DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The 
search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search 
box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course 
a very tedious way to have to get through an article or articles.

 

Thoughts on this proposition? 

Thanks.

 

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Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-18 Thread Richard Turner 

just a second or so. You should hear the camera flash sound.
Richard


On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:

Hi,

Just so you know, sighted people can still see or read what’s on your screen, 
potentially, if brightness is at zero and screen curtain is off. If you’re not 
worried about someone reading your stuff over your shoulder, it’s not an issue. 
Best, Keith

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

hi,
The jury is out with regard to screen curtain and battery saving. The official 
position is: it doesn't save battery. my observation is: it probably does 
because when screen curtain is off and brightness is up the phone gets hotter! 
as heat is an expression of energy, this, probably, means that the phone is 
using more battery life. however, turning the brightness down as far as you  
comfortably can, definitely does save battery. these days, now that I can't see 
the screen at all, I have the brightness down to 0 and don't bother with the 
screen curtain.

just my thoughts, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 18 Jul 2017, at 09:59, Shaf Patel 
> wrote:

Doesn't Screen Curtain being turned on save battery, regardless of what the 
brightness level is set to?

On 7/18/2017 4:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
just add to what Richard said, remember to up your brightness if, like me, you 
keep it at zero for battery saving reasons.

Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 18 Jul 2017, at 02:50, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
Hi,
Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.
Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.
Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI, Prizmo 
Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.
The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.
Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the text size. 
With VO on, this option apparently disappears.

I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak Screen 
doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, “sorry, 
there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl.

From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
Hi,

Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper 
app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to 
DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The 
search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search 
box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course 
a very tedious way to have to get through an article or articles.

Thoughts on this proposition?
Thanks.

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RE: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-18 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
Hi,

Just so you know, sighted people can still see or read what’s on your screen, 
potentially, if brightness is at zero and screen curtain is off. If you’re not 
worried about someone reading your stuff over your shoulder, it’s not an issue. 
Best, Keith

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

hi,
The jury is out with regard to screen curtain and battery saving. The official 
position is: it doesn't save battery. my observation is: it probably does 
because when screen curtain is off and brightness is up the phone gets hotter! 
as heat is an expression of energy, this, probably, means that the phone is 
using more battery life. however, turning the brightness down as far as you  
comfortably can, definitely does save battery. these days, now that I can't see 
the screen at all, I have the brightness down to 0 and don't bother with the 
screen curtain.

just my thoughts, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 18 Jul 2017, at 09:59, Shaf Patel 
> wrote:

Doesn't Screen Curtain being turned on save battery, regardless of what the 
brightness level is set to?

On 7/18/2017 4:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
just add to what Richard said, remember to up your brightness if, like me, you 
keep it at zero for battery saving reasons.

Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 18 Jul 2017, at 02:50, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
Hi,
Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.
Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.
Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI, Prizmo 
Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.
The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.
Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the text size. 
With VO on, this option apparently disappears.

I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak Screen 
doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, “sorry, 
there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl.

From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
Hi,

Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper 
app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to 
DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The 
search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search 
box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course 
a very tedious way to have to get through an article or articles.

Thoughts on this proposition?
Thanks.

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Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-18 Thread Flor Lynch 
Hi, 

How long should one hold the Home and Power buttons in? (This is a 5S.) 
Certainly if I hold the Power button in for long enough together with the Home 
button, like four seconds, then the power turns off. 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
Hi,

Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.

Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.

Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI, Prizmo 
Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.

The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.

Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

 

With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the text size. 
With VO on, this option apparently disappears. 

 

I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak Screen 
doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, “sorry, 
there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl. 

 

From: Flor Lynch 

Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

Hi, 

 

Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper 
app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to 
DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The 
search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search 
box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course 
a very tedious way to have to get through an article or articles.

 

Thoughts on this proposition? 

Thanks.

 

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Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-18 Thread Flor Lynch 
Hi, 

Thanks for that, Richard. I thought there should be a way to get a screenshot, 
and you have now provided it. I will experiment, and give it a try. (I have 
KnfbReader. When I last checked it in the newspaper’s app, brightness was 96%. 
High.)

The issue you cite regarding digital text not being clear is certainly true 
with scanning images of text in them on a PC. (Stupidly small fonts and  point 
sizes of 4, etc.; or it may be that this particular organisation – PageSuite UK 
– does its clients’ many newspapers cheaply.) 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
Hi,

Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.

Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.

Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI, Prizmo 
Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.

The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.

Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

 

With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the text size. 
With VO on, this option apparently disappears. 

 

I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak Screen 
doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, “sorry, 
there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl. 

 

From: Flor Lynch 

Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

Hi, 

 

Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper 
app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to 
DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The 
search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search 
box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course 
a very tedious way to have to get through an article or articles.

 

Thoughts on this proposition? 

Thanks.

 

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Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-18 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
hi,
The jury is out with regard to screen curtain and battery saving. The official 
position is: it doesn't save battery. my observation is: it probably does 
because when screen curtain is off and brightness is up the phone gets hotter! 
as heat is an expression of energy, this, probably, means that the phone is 
using more battery life. however, turning the brightness down as far as you  
comfortably can, definitely does save battery. these days, now that I can't see 
the screen at all, I have the brightness down to 0 and don't bother with the 
screen curtain.

just my thoughts, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 18 Jul 2017, at 09:59, Shaf Patel  wrote:
> 
> Doesn't Screen Curtain being turned on save battery, regardless of what the 
> brightness level is set to?
> 
>> On 7/18/2017 4:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
>> just add to what Richard said, remember to up your brightness if, like me, 
>> you keep it at zero for battery saving reasons.
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>> On 18 Jul 2017, at 02:50, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.
>>> Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.
>>> Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI, 
>>> Prizmo Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.
>>> The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.
>>> Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.
>>>  
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Flor Lynch
>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external 
>>> scanner?
>>>  
>>> With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the text 
>>> size. With VO on, this option apparently disappears.
>>>  
>>> I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak Screen 
>>> doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, 
>>> “sorry, there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl.
>>>  
>>> From: Flor Lynch
>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
>>> article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot  
>>>  be read by VoiceOver. I’m thinking of digital newspaper text on the 
>>> iPhone screen that is not/cannot be read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on 
>>> a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 1000 attached to a PC - potentially 
>>> do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of course, would or could one get any 
>>> satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper app can’t be transferred 
>>> between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to DropBox – there being 
>>> no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The search boxes read 
>>> fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search box, I’ll get 
>>> results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course a very 
>>> tedious way to have to get through an article or articles.
>>>  
>>> Thoughts on this proposition?
>>> Thanks.
>>>  
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Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-18 Thread Shaf Patel 
Doesn't Screen Curtain being turned on save battery, regardless of what
the brightness level is set to?


On 7/18/2017 4:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
> just add to what Richard said, remember to up your brightness if, like
> me, you keep it at zero for battery saving reasons.
>
> Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 18 Jul 2017, at 02:50, Richard Turner  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.
>>
>> Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.
>>
>> Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI,
>> Prizmo Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.
>>
>> The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.
>>
>> Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.
>>
>>  
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Flor Lynch
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an
>> external scanner?
>>
>>  
>>
>> With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the
>> text size. With VO on, this option apparently disappears.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak
>> Screen doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on.
>> (Siri says, “sorry, there is nothing to read here”. Well there is,
>> Siri girl.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*Flor Lynch 
>>
>> *Sent:*Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM
>>
>> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>
>> *Subject:*Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external
>> scanner?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text
>> of an article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by
>> VoiceOver. I’m thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone
>> screen that is not/cannot be read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on
>> a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 1000 attached to a PC -
>> potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of course, would or
>> could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper app
>> can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from
>> it to DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I
>> can’t read it. The search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers.
>> If I type text into the search box, I’ll get results back, which are
>> read by VoiceOver. But that is of course a very tedious way to have
>> to get through an article or articles.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thoughts on this proposition?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>  
>>
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Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-18 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
just add to what Richard said, remember to up your brightness if, like me, you 
keep it at zero for battery saving reasons.

Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 18 Jul 2017, at 02:50, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.
> Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.
> Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI, Prizmo 
> Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.
> The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.
> Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.
>  
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Flor Lynch
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external 
> scanner?
>  
> With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the text 
> size. With VO on, this option apparently disappears.
>  
> I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak Screen 
> doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, “sorry, 
> there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl.
>  
> From: Flor Lynch
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
> Hi,
>  
> Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
> article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
> thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
> read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
> 1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
> course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My 
> newspaper app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff 
> from it to DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t 
> read it. The search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text 
> into the search box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But 
> that is of course a very tedious way to have to get through an article or 
> articles.
>  
> Thoughts on this proposition?
> Thanks.
>  
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Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-18 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
flor,
Do you have any OC our apps on your phone? four example, I know that you could 
get the KNFB reader to recognise your text for you from a screenshot.

just an idea, Sandy

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> On 17 Jul 2017, at 17:40, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
> article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
> thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
> read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
> 1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
> course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My 
> newspaper app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff 
> from it to DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t 
> read it. The search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text 
> into the search box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But 
> that is of course a very tedious way to have to get through an article or 
> articles.
>  
> Thoughts on this proposition?
> Thanks.
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RE: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-17 Thread Richard Turner 
Hi,
Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.
Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.
Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI, Prizmo 
Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.
The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.
Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the text size. 
With VO on, this option apparently disappears.

I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak Screen 
doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, “sorry, 
there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl.

From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
Hi,

Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper 
app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to 
DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The 
search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search 
box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course 
a very tedious way to have to get through an article or articles.

Thoughts on this proposition?
Thanks.

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Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-17 Thread Flor Lynch 
With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the text size. 
With VO on, this option apparently disappears. 

I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak Screen 
doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on. (Siri says, “sorry, 
there is nothing to read here”. Well there is, Siri girl. 

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?
Hi, 

Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper 
app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to 
DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The 
search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search 
box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course 
a very tedious way to have to get through an article or articles.

Thoughts on this proposition? 
Thanks.

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Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

2017-07-17 Thread Flor Lynch 
Hi, 

Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text of an 
article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by VoiceOver. I’m 
thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone screen that is not/cannot be 
read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 
1000 attached to a PC - potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of 
course, would or could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper 
app can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from it to 
DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I can’t read it. The 
search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers. If I type text into the search 
box, I’ll get results back, which are read by VoiceOver. But that is of course 
a very tedious way to have to get through an article or articles.

Thoughts on this proposition? 
Thanks.

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