Re: am I missing something?????

[Angie Nutt]

I’m the opposite: I enjoy hearing about what’s the best recording app etc; of 
course this may be different to each person and for me that makes it more 
interesting. Some people may not use the web that much, either because they’ve 
just started or they haven’t got round to learning it and doubtless all sorts 
of reasons. I wouldn’t want to be on this list if people stop asking questions. 
Remember, the only stupid question is the one that doesn’t get asked.

I tend to look on the web before asking questions as I might well get a quicker 
answer but on hear I like the discussions round whatever comes up.

All the best
Angie

> On 25 Sep 2020, at 15:44, Fred Olver  wrote:
> 
> I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
> maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
> most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see 
> a question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good 
> recording app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of 
> this list. As most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com 
>  which is a repository of information which can not 
> be overshadowed by any other when it comes to information about the 
> usefulness of particular app's for blind and visually impaired individuals. I 
> urge each one of you who feel the need to ask questions which you could 
> easily find the answers yourself from this site to go there and have a look 
> at all the information which is available. There are lists of app's 
> concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those who feel they 
> need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific application and 
> you may just come away with more than you expected. Please, before you bring 
> a question to the list, consider finding the answer at 
> http://www.applevis.com   and thank you.
>  
> Fred Olver
>  
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Re: am I missing something?????

[regina alvarado]

I would never learned to use iPhone back when I had the 4s if I  couldn’t have 
asked questions here and a couple of other places. I didn’t even know how to 
use Safari. I think this list almost every day. I know a lot about iOS now, but 
I sure didn’t back then. If it wasn’t for this list I would have been lost. I 
taught myself a lot, but this list helped me immensely.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Sep 26, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

The list saved me from 14; applevis.com would not have done so. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ann
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: am I missing something?

Questions and opinions are allowed on the list. I might have trashed a 
perfectly good iPhone recently if not for some very simple advice that came 
from this list. And BTW, I did post on AppleVis about the same problem, but got 
no help at all.





and, sometimes, I want to hear the opinion of other users concerning what they 
feel is the best apps, and their experiences with such apps. And it's easier to 
do this through email than having to use something that is forum based.





I hope it never comes down to a list wide attitude of "You'd better have 
exhausted all other sources before you dare to ask a question and annoy us" on 
the list. That is not what I signed up for years ago.




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Olver
   Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 2:45 pm
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
   Subject: Re: am I missing something?



   No, it is not what I am saying. I have seen times when individuals have sent 
four to six messages to the list when one would have sufficed. I have seen 
messages which I pointed out in mine like what recording app should I get, or 
what GPS app is the best? There is no best it is all subjective, and you know 
what they say about opinions.



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RE: am I missing something?????

[Carolyn]

The list saved me from 14; applevis.com would not have done so. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ann
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: am I missing something?

Questions and opinions are allowed on the list. I might have trashed a 
perfectly good iPhone recently if not for some very simple advice that came 
from this list. And BTW, I did post on AppleVis about the same problem, but got 
no help at all.





and, sometimes, I want to hear the opinion of other users concerning what they 
feel is the best apps, and their experiences with such apps. And it's easier to 
do this through email than having to use something that is forum based.





I hope it never comes down to a list wide attitude of "You'd better have 
exhausted all other sources before you dare to ask a question and annoy us" on 
the list. That is not what I signed up for years ago.




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Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 2:45 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: Re: am I missing something?

 

No, it is not what I am saying. I have seen times when individuals have 
sent four to six messages to the list when one would have sufficed. I have seen 
messages which I pointed out in mine like what recording app should I get, or 
what GPS app is the best? There is no best it is all subjective, and you know 
what they say about opinions.

 

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RE: am I missing something?????

[Carolyn]

I agree with that, and am thinking that periodically a new lister comes on, who 
has just gotten started with Apple products and would have questions to ask. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Casey Wollner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: am I missing something?

Hi okay then why do we have this list if we can’t ask questions on it?

If we can qall just go to applevis then we really don’t need this list then 
right?

Is that what you are saying?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: am I missing something?

 

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's for blind and 
visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel the need to ask 
questions which you could easily find the answers yourself from this site to go 
there and have a look at all the information which is available. There are 
lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those 
who feel they need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific 
application and you may just come away with more than you expected. Please, 
before you bring a question to the list, consider finding the answer at 
http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.

 

Fred Olver

 

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RE: am I missing something?????

[Don Moore]

You’re not!  Just that some folks have different expectations of a list than 
most of us do.  If we had 30 hours in a day or more we probably could look up 
everything we needed to know assuming it was readily available.  For those 
impatient with the questions, that is, after all, why they invented the delete 
key.  Ignore people like that.  Maybe they’ll go away!!
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
jo Hart
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: am I missing something?
 
I believe most people are looking for what works for them , here. The ability 
to have ease of use and accessibility as well as product information.  I 
haven’t the time to look every thing up and am personally grateful that there 
are people here that do.  I am also grateful that all of you refrain from 
ridicule because I have no technical savvy whatsoever.  That’s not too say I 
haven’t took time to do my research.  I love this list and it is for the most 
part not judge mental when people do so.  I do however know how to use the 
delete button and a little tolerance is the key.  If we all felt that way this 
list would be non-existent.
Jo
 
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ann  wrote:








 
Questions and opinions are allowed on the list. I might have

trashed a perfectly good iPhone recently if not for some very

simple advice that came from this list. And BTW, I did post on

AppleVis about the same problem, but got no help at all.


 



 
and, sometimes, I want to hear the opinion of other users

concerning what they feel is the best apps, and their experiences

with such apps. And it's easier to do this through email than

having to use something that is forum based.


 



 
I hope it never comes down to a list wide attitude of "You'd

better have exhausted all other sources before you dare to ask a

question and annoy us" on the list. That is not what I signed up

for years ago.
 



 
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subscription to a digest mode if the frequency of mail is too

overwhelming for you. And if it's what people are saying or how

they say it that bothers you, then anyone is free to remove

themselves from any list at any time.
 



 
~Ann
 



 



 





 



 
 
 
 
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On Behalf Of Fred Olver


Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 2:45 pm


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: Re: am I missing something?
 
 
 
 
 
 
No, it is not what I am saying. I have seen

times when individuals have sent four to six messages to

the list when one would have sufficed. I have seen

messages which I pointed out in mine like what recording

app should I get, or what GPS app is the best? There is no

best it is all subjective, and you know what they say

about opinions.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[jo Hart]

I believe most people are looking for what works for them , here. The
ability to have ease of use and accessibility as well as product
information.  I haven’t the time to look every thing up and am personally
grateful that there are people here that do.  I am also grateful that all
of you refrain from ridicule because I have no technical savvy whatsoever.
That’s not too say I haven’t took time to do my research.  I love this list
and it is for the most part not judge mental when people do so.  I do
however know how to use the delete button and a little tolerance is the
key.  If we all felt that way this list would be non-existent.
Jo

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ann  wrote:

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> Questions and opinions are allowed on the list. I might have
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> trashed a perfectly good iPhone recently if not for some very
>
> simple advice that came from this list. And BTW, I did post on
>
> AppleVis about the same problem, but got no help at all.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> and, sometimes, I want to hear the opinion of other users
>
> concerning what they feel is the best apps, and their experiences
>
> with such apps. And it's easier to do this through email than
>
> having to use something that is forum based.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I hope it never comes down to a list wide attitude of "You'd
>
> better have exhausted all other sources before you dare to ask a
>
> question and annoy us" on the list. That is not what I signed up
>
> for years ago.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There are plenty of ways to manage unwanted email. Set your
>
> sorting preferences to threaded, if possible. Set your
>
> subscription to a digest mode if the frequency of mail is too
>
> overwhelming for you. And if it's what people are saying or how
>
> they say it that bothers you, then anyone is free to remove
>
> themselves from any list at any time.
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> *On Behalf Of *Fred Olver
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> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 September 2020 2:45 pm
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> No, it is not what I am saying. I have seen
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> times when individuals have sent four to six messages to
>
> the list when one would have sufficed. I have seen
>
> messages which I pointed out in mine like what recording
>
> app should I get, or what GPS app is the best? There is no
>
> best it is all subjective, and you know what they say
>
> about opinions.
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Re: am I missing something?????

[Ann]

Questions and opinions are allowed on the list. I might have trashed a 
perfectly good iPhone recently if not for some very simple advice that 
came from this list. And BTW, I did post on AppleVis about the same 
problem, but got no help at all.



and, sometimes, I want to hear the opinion of other users concerning 
what they feel is the best apps, and their experiences with such apps. 
And it's easier to do this through email than having to use something 
that is forum based.



I hope it never comes down to a list wide attitude of "You'd better have 
exhausted all other sources before you dare to ask a question and annoy 
us" on the list. That is not what I signed up for years ago.



There are plenty of ways to manage unwanted email. Set your sorting 
preferences to threaded, if possible. Set your subscription to a digest 
mode if the frequency of mail is too overwhelming for you. And if it's 
what people are saying or how they say it that bothers you, then anyone 
is free to remove themselves from any list at any time.



~Ann




*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Fred Olver

*Sent:* Saturday, 26 September 2020 2:45 pm
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: am I missing something?

No, it is not what I am saying. I have seen times when individuals 
have sent four to six messages to the list when one would have 
sufficed. I have seen messages which I pointed out in mine like what 
recording app should I get, or what GPS app is the best? There is no 
best it is all subjective, and you know what they say about opinions.


Fred





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Asking questions on the list [was "RE: am I missing something?????"]

[chaltain]

True, but I don’t think this is any different from any other mailing list I’m 
on. IMHO, we can’t control what or how others post, especially if we’re not the 
moderator. With every list, each person has to decide if the list is worth 
their time or not. The list will go on just fine if someone decides their just 
not getting enough out of the list any more and leaves.

 

If you’re not already using a threaded mail client, you may want to look into 
this option to help you quickly delete those threads you’re not personally 
interested in.

 

Note that better and more meaningful subject lines would end up helping you and 
others manage list traffic.

 

You might also want to reach out to Mark off line to see if you can suggest 
some things that he can do to make the list run more efficiently.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: am I missing something?

 

No, it is not what I am saying. I have seen times when individuals have sent 
four to six messages to the list when one would have sufficed. I have seen 
messages which I pointed out in mine like what recording app should I get, or 
what GPS app is the best? There is no best it is all subjective, and you know 
what they say about opinions.

 

Fred

- Original Message - 

From: Casey Wollner <mailto:cwoll...@wi.rr.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 11:53 AM

Subject: RE: am I missing something?

 

Hi okay then why do we have this list if we can’t ask questions on it?

If we can qall just go to applevis then we really don’t need this list then 
right?

Is that what you are saying?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: am I missing something?

 

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's for blind and 
visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel the need to ask 
questions which you could easily find the answers yourself from this site to go 
there and have a look at all the information which is available. There are 
lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those 
who feel they need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific 
application and you may just come away with more than you expected. Please, 
before you bring a question to the list, consider finding the answer at 
http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.

 

Fred Olver

 

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RE: am I missing something?????

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sure,
It comes down to not everyones perfect and knows everything at one time,
So therefore questions come to  those that ask, at different times.


Wish I knew everything so I didn’t have to ask questions,

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 2:45 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: am I missing something?

No, it is not what I am saying. I have seen times when individuals have sent 
four to six messages to the list when one would have sufficed. I have seen 
messages which I pointed out in mine like what recording app should I get, or 
what GPS app is the best? There is no best it is all subjective, and you know 
what they say about opinions.

Fred
- Original Message -
From: Casey Wollner<mailto:cwoll...@wi.rr.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 11:53 AM
Subject: RE: am I missing something?

Hi okay then why do we have this list if we can’t ask questions on it?
If we can qall just go to applevis then we really don’t need this list then 
right?
Is that what you are saying?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: am I missing something?

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
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questions which you could easily find the answers yourself from this site to go 
there and have a look at all the information which is available. There are 
lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those 
who feel they need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific 
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http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.

Fred Olver

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RE: am I missing something?????

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Fred,

I to delete a lot of messages,

However I always read each email incase there is something I can add to the 
thread,

What would be helpful is that if you do see messages / read messages you know 
the answer or have an idea of

Why not help by giving an answer,

Not everyone knows everything or thinks they know everything that is asked,

Your all knowingness would be a useful tool for the list.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 2:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: am I missing something?

Richard and others, I find myself hitting the "delete" key most of the time.

Fred
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: am I missing something?

Fred,
That is the beauty of the delete key.
If you see a question like that, just hit the delete key.
While I truly love the AppleVis web site, it does not have everything under the 
sun and for some novice users on this list, it is rather a cumbersome site to 
navigate.
I follow the motto, There are no dumb questions.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: am I missing something?

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
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app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
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Re: am I missing something?????

[Fred Olver]

No, it is not what I am saying. I have seen times when individuals have sent 
four to six messages to the list when one would have sufficed. I have seen 
messages which I pointed out in mine like what recording app should I get, or 
what GPS app is the best? There is no best it is all subjective, and you know 
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Fred
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 11:53 AM
  Subject: RE: am I missing something?


  Hi okay then why do we have this list if we can’t ask questions on it?

  If we can qall just go to applevis then we really don’t need this list then 
right?

  Is that what you are saying?

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 9:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: am I missing something?

   

  I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
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Re: am I missing something?????

[Fred Olver]

Richard and others, I find myself hitting the "delete" key most of the time.

Fred
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:04 AM
  Subject: RE: am I missing something?


  Fred,

  That is the beauty of the delete key.

  If you see a question like that, just hit the delete key.

  While I truly love the AppleVis web site, it does not have everything under 
the sun and for some novice users on this list, it is rather a cumbersome site 
to navigate.

  I follow the motto, There are no dumb questions.

   

   

   

  Richard

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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: am I missing something?

   

  I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
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repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
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visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel the need to ask 
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enough of this! RE: am I missing something?????

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ok folks,

Lets pull the plug on this one.\
Everyone has their own thoughts and as useful as apple vis is to some,
Others may not have even known it was there,
And if as Richard says it has no search field then it’s not going to be helpful.

I for one don’t care if someone asks a question on an email list before 
searching on the net for the answer,
Or looks in the crapper to see if the ducks are under the rim,

We’re here to help each other
And if some member think they are better than others and don’t need to ask the 
questions,
Then great, those people can help by providing the answres they think they know.

Now lets all just play nice with each other
So carry on everyone, don’t’ get put off by the perfection nasties!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 4:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: am I missing something?

Hi okay then why do we have this list if we can’t ask questions on it?
If we can qall just go to applevis then we really don’t need this list then 
right?
Is that what you are saying?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: am I missing something?

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's for blind and 
visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel the need to ask 
questions which you could easily find the answers yourself from this site to go 
there and have a look at all the information which is available. There are 
lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those 
who feel they need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific 
application and you may just come away with more than you expected. Please, 
before you bring a question to the list, consider finding the answer at 
http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.

Fred Olver

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Re: am I missing something?????

[SoonerAnnie]

Yes, my friend, you are missing something. :) 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
> maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
> most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see 
> a question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good 
> recording app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of 
> this list. As most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com 
> which is a repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any 
> other when it comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's 
> for blind and visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel 
> the need to ask questions which you could easily find the answers yourself 
> from this site to go there and have a look at all the information which is 
> available. There are lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there 
> are podcasts for those who feel they need further assistance in becoming 
> familiar with a specific application and you may just come away with more 
> than you expected. Please, before you bring a question to the list, consider 
> finding the answer at http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.
>  
> Fred Olver
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RE: am I missing something?????

[Casey Wollner]

Hi okay then why do we have this list if we can’t ask questions on it?

If we can qall just go to applevis then we really don’t need this list then 
right?

Is that what you are saying?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: am I missing something?

 

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's for blind and 
visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel the need to ask 
questions which you could easily find the answers yourself from this site to go 
there and have a look at all the information which is available. There are 
lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those 
who feel they need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific 
application and you may just come away with more than you expected. Please, 
before you bring a question to the list, consider finding the answer at 
http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.

 

Fred Olver

 

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Re: am I missing something?????

[Shirley Baker]

I agree. Applevis is not always helpful for me and sometimes the podcasts don't 
help that much. I could give an example of how it wasn't helpful for me but I 
won't tie up the list explaining.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Fred,
> That is the beauty of the delete key.
> If you see a question like that, just hit the delete key.
> While I truly love the AppleVis web site, it does not have everything under 
> the sun and for some novice users on this list, it is rather a cumbersome 
> site to navigate.
> I follow the motto, There are no dumb questions.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
> Olver
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: am I missing something?
>  
> I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
> maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
> most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see 
> a question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good 
> recording app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of 
> this list. As most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com 
> which is a repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any 
> other when it comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's 
> for blind and visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel 
> the need to ask questions which you could easily find the answers yourself 
> from this site to go there and have a look at all the information which is 
> available. There are lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there 
> are podcasts for those who feel they need further assistance in becoming 
> familiar with a specific application and you may just come away with more 
> than you expected. Please, before you bring a question to the list, consider 
> finding the answer at http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.
>  
> Fred Olver
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RE: am I missing something?????

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly, and while I think it's OK for experienced users to provide a bit of 
instruction as to how one could find the answer to a simple question along with 
the answer, it is the nature of mailing lists that lots of questions are asked 
twice. Of course things also change, new apps come out and others disappear. I 
think many of us for example used to be impressed by and recommend KNFB Reader 
even though it is (or was) $100 to buy, but now after only a few short years 
it's virtually gone into obscurity because of apps like Voice Dream Scanner 
which in many ways do a better job and cost a few bucks. The same applies to 
GPS apps, Seeing EYE GPS used to be very good despite the subscription cost or 
very high one-time purchase cost, but now even apps like Apple Maps or Google 
Maps do a very good job and while I have only used the new Explorer app once, I 
was pretty impressed by it and it's free.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: am I missing something?

Fred,
That is the beauty of the delete key.
If you see a question like that, just hit the delete key.
While I truly love the AppleVis web site, it does not have everything under the 
sun and for some novice users on this list, it is rather a cumbersome site to 
navigate.
I follow the motto, There are no dumb questions.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: am I missing something?

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's for blind and 
visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel the need to ask 
questions which you could easily find the answers yourself from this site to go 
there and have a look at all the information which is available. There are 
lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those 
who feel they need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific 
application and you may just come away with more than you expected. Please, 
before you bring a question to the list, consider finding the answer at 
http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.

Fred Olver

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RE: am I missing something?????

[Richard Turner]

Fred,
That is the beauty of the delete key.
If you see a question like that, just hit the delete key.
While I truly love the AppleVis web site, it does not have everything under the 
sun and for some novice users on this list, it is rather a cumbersome site to 
navigate.
I follow the motto, There are no dumb questions.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: am I missing something?

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's for blind and 
visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel the need to ask 
questions which you could easily find the answers yourself from this site to go 
there and have a look at all the information which is available. There are 
lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those 
who feel they need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific 
application and you may just come away with more than you expected. Please, 
before you bring a question to the list, consider finding the answer at 
http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.

Fred Olver

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RE: am I missing something?????

[sherrywells1157]

Yes, the Apple vis site is indeed helpful.  I think you are missing the point 
though.  Virtually every question asked on this list could probably be answered 
with research on the web.  People like these lists because they save lots of 
research time.  I find the questions re best apps interesting & hope people 
will not stop asking them.  There are aspects of the IPhone that do not 
interest me at all.  I use the delete key for those emails.  You should do the 
same for the topics that do not interest you instead of trying to edit the list 
to suit your interests.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: am I missing something?

 

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's for blind and 
visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel the need to ask 
questions which you could easily find the answers yourself from this site to go 
there and have a look at all the information which is available. There are 
lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those 
who feel they need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific 
application and you may just come away with more than you expected. Please, 
before you bring a question to the list, consider finding the answer at 
http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.

 

Fred Olver

 

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am I missing something?????

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I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
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most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
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am I missing something about finding apps? - Re: Links to Apps in the App Store

[Charles Rivard]

Rather than googling, why aren't people just using iTunes to search the 
iTunes store?  Is there really a need to use another program to find apps, 
then use a browser to get to the app that could so much more easily be found 
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have you tried a google search for the name of the app???

At 07:11 PM 2/16/2015, you wrote:
Could anyone describe how you find the direct link to a particular app? I 
am writing an article that specifically requests that the links to the 
relevant apps be included in the text. Feel free to write to me privately 
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Re: am I missing something about finding apps? - Re: Links to Apps in the App Store

[Gmail]

Except that the only thing that the original poster wants to do is get the 
links that point to the apps in the iTunes App Store, not necessarily install 
those apps on their device.


Thanks,
Ari


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 Rather than googling, why aren't people just using iTunes to search the 
 iTunes store?  Is there really a need to use another program to find apps, 
 then use a browser to get to the app that could so much more easily be found 
 through the use of one program that not only will get you to the link, but 
 also do the installation onto your device and keep it in your library if you 
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 Subject: Re: Links to Apps in the App Store
 
 
 have you tried a google search for the name of the app???
 
 At 07:11 PM 2/16/2015, you wrote:
 Could anyone describe how you find the direct link to a particular app? I am 
 writing an article that specifically requests that the links to the relevant 
 apps be included in the text. Feel free to write to me privately about this 
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 you can give would be wonderful, as I have a deadline.
 
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Re: am I missing something about finding apps? - Re: Links to Apps in the App Store

[Christopher Chaltain]

iTunes was already suggested multiple times in response to this 
question. People have been suggesting Google or iTunes and not really 
been passing judgment on which solution is best or putting down anyone 
else's suggestion.


I touched on why I recommend Google myself, but the requester wanted 
links to apps for an article they were writing. They didn't say what 
platform they were writing their article on or whether they wanted to 
install the apps themselves or already had the apps installed.


Personally, I don't always have iTunes running. I bring it up to install 
a new version of IOS or transfer some music, but in general I don't have 
iTunes running. I almost always have Firefox up and running, and if I 
don't, it loads faster and takes up afewer resources than iTunes.


I'm frequently posting links to apps I don't have installed myself or 
plan to install. I'm also writing articles and email messages from my PC.


For these reasons, I find it easier to just bring up Firefox, search the 
iTunes store for an app and post the resulting link in an email message 
or a blog article.


Obviously, if someone has iTunes up and running, or wants to look for an 
app they have installed but can't recall the exact name of the app or 
the developer then of course, iTunes is the way to go. I don't think of 
one solution as better than the other, there are just multiple ways to 
get to the same information, and I think it's good that we see multiple 
suggestions and let people use the one that works for them and their 
situation.


On 02/18/2015 05:10 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:

Rather than googling, why aren't people just using iTunes to search the
iTunes store?  Is there really a need to use another program to find
apps, then use a browser to get to the app that could so much more
easily be found through the use of one program that not only will get
you to the link, but also do the installation onto your device and keep
it in your library if you need it again?

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Subject: Re: Links to Apps in the App Store


have you tried a google search for the name of the app???

At 07:11 PM 2/16/2015, you wrote:

Could anyone describe how you find the direct link to a particular
app? I am writing an article that specifically requests that the links
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mailto:suzannemwil...@comcast.netsuzannemwil...@comcast.net. Any
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Suzanne



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RE: Dice World, am I missing something?

[Steve Spamer]

Raul, yes, don't misunderstand me, I appreciate all of that. As a new user
of the game, I obviously didn't know how this game is supposed to work.  Now
I know you're supposed to have lots of active games on the go, I'm clear on
things.  It will be interesting to see how quickly someone gets the turn, if
I can persuade my son to install it lol. Cheers Steve.
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Sent: 17 March 2014 14:41
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

Hi Steve. What happens if I am playing with you and when I take my turn you
are sleeping? Should I wait for you to wake up and go about your normal life
and then take your turn after, or should you wake up immediately to take
your turn so I don't have to wait so long? smile. 
Please don't take this as sarcasm, but as thinking of it from the other way
around. When you play a game like Dice World, you will play against real
people who have real lives and who might live in a different part of the
world as yourself. So, to minimize the long wait times if that's not what
you want to do, then you might consider only playing with people in your
same time zone, but even then you have the real life factor to deal with.
There are times when I go through my turns in the morning before I go to
work, or while I'm on my way to a client's home. 
So it can vary. There are times when I'm bored at night and take a few turns
before going to bed. Other times I go a couple of days without taking my
turn. You have up to 5 days to take your turn before you forfeit. So, I
think this is generous. There have been a few players who have stopped
playing with me because I sometimes take 1 or 2 days to respond, but that is
ok because I can't keep up with more than 25 games at the same time if
players want me to take my turn just as soon as they do. There are times
when I have an hour to kill and will play 3 or 4 games in a row with one
player and ignore the rest of the games because I know that he/she is online
at that time and it's like we are playing face to face. You just gotta find
what works right for you is all.

Hope this helps.

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On 3/17/2014 5:50 AM, Steve Spamer wrote:
 Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games, 
 but what I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I 
 currently have 3 games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the 
 other person to take their turn!!!  Now is this because they are 
 waiting that long? or is it something to do with the game sending that 
 information to that player?

 Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if 
 it takes over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

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RE: Dice World, am I missing something?

[Steve Spamer]

Yes, of course people have lives :p, but surely if you take the decision to
start a game, then wouldn't you expect others to want you to play?  Why
would you start something, then go and do something else?  Cheers Steve
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BBS
Sent: 17 March 2014 15:45
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dice World, am I missing something?

Exactly Raul. I have a life too outside of Dice World or any other game that
I play with people. I hate it when people rush me to take my turn,
especially in RS Games or the Playroom. It's really degrading hearing
someone tell you to Play, when you're doing something else. Oh yeah since
people are saying what their usernames are, on Dice World and RS it's BBS
and in the Playroom it's bbsshawn.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

Hi Steve. What happens if I am playing with you and when I take my turn you
are sleeping? Should I wait for you to wake up and go about your normal life
and then take your turn after, or should you wake up immediately to take
your turn so I don't have to wait so long? smile. 
Please don't take this as sarcasm, but as thinking of it from the other way
around. When you play a game like Dice World, you will play against real
people who have real lives and who might live in a different part of the
world as yourself. So, to minimize the long wait times if that's not what
you want to do, then you might consider only playing with people in your
same time zone, but even then you have the real life factor to deal with.
There are times when I go through my turns in the morning before I go to
work, or while I'm on my way to a client's home. 
So it can vary. There are times when I'm bored at night and take a few turns
before going to bed. Other times I go a couple of days without taking my
turn. You have up to 5 days to take your turn before you forfeit. So, I
think this is generous. There have been a few players who have stopped
playing with me because I sometimes take 1 or 2 days to respond, but that is
ok because I can't keep up with more than 25 games at the same time if
players want me to take my turn just as soon as they do. There are times
when I have an hour to kill and will play 3 or 4 games in a row with one
player and ignore the rest of the games because I know that he/she is online
at that time and it's like we are playing face to face. You just gotta find
what works right for you is all.

Hope this helps.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
Finally heading to the comic book store. My cardiovascular system is pumping
with joy. =) - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 3/17/2014 5:50 AM, Steve Spamer wrote:
 Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games, 
 but what I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I 
 currently have 3 games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the 
 other person to take their turn!!!  Now is this because they are 
 waiting that long? or is it something to do with the game sending that 
 information to that player?

 Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if 
 it takes over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

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Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

[MamaPeach]

You can't expect everyone to play a game all the way through immediately 
when a game is started. That is not how these type games work Some might go 
ahead and finish a game when it is first started, but most people don't. If 
that is your expectation with any turn base games such as Dice World, you 
might as well just delete all of them.


-Original Message- 
From: Steve Spamer

Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dice World, am I missing something?

Yes, of course people have lives :p, but surely if you take the decision to
start a game, then wouldn't you expect others to want you to play?  Why
would you start something, then go and do something else?  Cheers Steve
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BBS
Sent: 17 March 2014 15:45
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dice World, am I missing something?

Exactly Raul. I have a life too outside of Dice World or any other game that
I play with people. I hate it when people rush me to take my turn,
especially in RS Games or the Playroom. It's really degrading hearing
someone tell you to Play, when you're doing something else. Oh yeah since
people are saying what their usernames are, on Dice World and RS it's BBS
and in the Playroom it's bbsshawn.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

Hi Steve. What happens if I am playing with you and when I take my turn you
are sleeping? Should I wait for you to wake up and go about your normal life
and then take your turn after, or should you wake up immediately to take
your turn so I don't have to wait so long? smile.
Please don't take this as sarcasm, but as thinking of it from the other way
around. When you play a game like Dice World, you will play against real
people who have real lives and who might live in a different part of the
world as yourself. So, to minimize the long wait times if that's not what
you want to do, then you might consider only playing with people in your
same time zone, but even then you have the real life factor to deal with.
There are times when I go through my turns in the morning before I go to
work, or while I'm on my way to a client's home.
So it can vary. There are times when I'm bored at night and take a few turns
before going to bed. Other times I go a couple of days without taking my
turn. You have up to 5 days to take your turn before you forfeit. So, I
think this is generous. There have been a few players who have stopped
playing with me because I sometimes take 1 or 2 days to respond, but that is
ok because I can't keep up with more than 25 games at the same time if
players want me to take my turn just as soon as they do. There are times
when I have an hour to kill and will play 3 or 4 games in a row with one
player and ignore the rest of the games because I know that he/she is online
at that time and it's like we are playing face to face. You just gotta find
what works right for you is all.

Hope this helps.

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On 3/17/2014 5:50 AM, Steve Spamer wrote:

Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games,
but what I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I
currently have 3 games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the
other person to take their turn!!!  Now is this because they are
waiting that long? or is it something to do with the game sending that
information to that player?

Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if
it takes over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

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Dice World, am I missing something?

[Steve Spamer]

Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games, but
what I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I currently
have 3 games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the other person to
take their turn!!!  Now is this because they are waiting that long? or is it
something to do with the game sending that information to that player?

 

Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if it
takes over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

 

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Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

[Bluesman02]

I would say, Time difference from Country to Country. 

The other player could be in The USA, Australia, or anywhere else in the World 
for that matter. 

Best regards, 

Del/Crazy Horse.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Spamer 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:50 AM
  Subject: Dice World, am I missing something?


  Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games, but 
what I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I currently have 
3 games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the other person to take 
their turn!!!  Now is this because they are waiting that long? or is it 
something to do with the game sending that information to that player?

   

  Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if it 
takes over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

   

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Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

[Jewel]

It's neither. Some people just take longer. After three days, the game will 
expire. They have that long to respond to your move. Most people respond within 
an hour or two, but some people take much longer.
Jewel

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 On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Steve Spamer st...@vipaudioaccess.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games, but 
 what I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I currently 
 have 3 games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the other person to 
 take their turn!!!  Now is this because they are waiting that long? or is it 
 something to do with the game sending that information to that player?
  
 Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if it 
 takes over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.
  
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Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi Steve. What happens if I am playing with you and when I take my turn 
you are sleeping? Should I wait for you to wake up and go about your 
normal life and then take your turn after, or should you wake up 
immediately to take your turn so I don't have to wait so long? smile. 
Please don't take this as sarcasm, but as thinking of it from the other 
way around. When you play a game like Dice World, you will play against 
real people who have real lives and who might live in a different part 
of the world as yourself. So, to minimize the long wait times if that's 
not what you want to do, then you might consider only playing with 
people in your same time zone, but even then you have the real life 
factor to deal with. There are times when I go through my turns in the 
morning before I go to work, or while I'm on my way to a client's home. 
So it can vary. There are times when I'm bored at night and take a few 
turns before going to bed. Other times I go a couple of days without 
taking my turn. You have up to 5 days to take your turn before you 
forfeit. So, I think this is generous. There have been a few players who 
have stopped playing with me because I sometimes take 1 or 2 days to 
respond, but that is ok because I can't keep up with more than 25 games 
at the same time if players want me to take my turn just as soon as they 
do. There are times when I have an hour to kill and will play 3 or 4 
games in a row with one player and ignore the rest of the games because 
I know that he/she is online at that time and it's like we are playing 
face to face. You just gotta find what works right for you is all.


Hope this helps.

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On 3/17/2014 5:50 AM, Steve Spamer wrote:

Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games,
but what I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I
currently have 3 games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the
other person to take their turn!!!  Now is this because they are waiting
that long? or is it something to do with the game sending that
information to that player?

Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if it
takes over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

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Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, just a slight correction. It's 5 days, not 3 before you forfeit a 
game from not taking a turn.


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On 3/17/2014 9:11 AM, Jewel wrote:

It's neither. Some people just take longer. After three days, the game
will expire. They have that long to respond to your move. Most people
respond within an hour or two, but some people take much longer.
Jewel

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On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Steve Spamer st...@vipaudioaccess.com
mailto:st...@vipaudioaccess.com wrote:


Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games,
but what I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I
currently have 3 games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the
other person to take their turn!!!  Now is this because they are
waiting that long? or is it something to do with the game sending that
information to that player?

Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if
it takes over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

Visit:
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RE: Dice World, am I missing something?

[Steve Spamer]

Yep, appreciate that, but this is when I take my turn immediately after I've
got the notification. Also, my son said one of the players is in france,
which is only 1 hour ahead, anyway, we'll see how it goes, cheers steve.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bluesman02
Sent: 17 March 2014 14:04
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

 

I would say, Time difference from Country to Country. 

 

The other player could be in The USA, Australia, or anywhere else in the
World for that matter. 

 

Best regards, 

 

Del/Crazy Horse.

 

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From: Steve Spamer mailto:st...@vipaudioaccess.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:50 AM

Subject: Dice World, am I missing something?

 

Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games, but
what I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I currently
have 3 games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the other person to
take their turn!!!  Now is this because they are waiting that long? or is it
something to do with the game sending that information to that player?

 

Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if it
takes over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

 

Visit:
www.vipaudioaccess.com
for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music and  to
basically get involved! 

Follow on Twitter: @VIPAudioAccess

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Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

[MamaPeach]

You could be playing someone clear across the globe which of course would mean 
they are on a different time zone, so they play when they are able to.

From: Steve Spamer 
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Dice World, am I missing something?

Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games, but what 
I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I currently have 3 
games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the other person to take 
their turn!!!  Now is this because they are waiting that long? or is it 
something to do with the game sending that information to that player?

 

Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if it takes 
over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

 

Visit:
www.vipaudioaccess.com
for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music and  to 
basically get involved! 

Follow on Twitter: @VIPAudioAccess

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Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

[MamaPeach]

It is not 3 days, it is 5 days. In the help section under frequently asked 
questions, it says:
A player will forfeit a game if they do not make a move in 5 days.

From: Jewel 
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

It's neither. Some people just take longer. After three days, the game will 
expire. They have that long to respond to your move. Most people respond within 
an hour or two, but some people take much longer.
Jewel

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On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Steve Spamer st...@vipaudioaccess.com wrote:


  Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games, but 
what I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I currently have 
3 games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the other person to take 
their turn!!!  Now is this because they are waiting that long? or is it 
something to do with the game sending that information to that player?

   

  Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if it 
takes over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

   

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Re: Dice World, am I missing something?

[Paul Ferrara]

Steve, it all depends on who you are playing; if they are not online at that 
time, it can take time for them to play and take their turn; the more games, 
the less you deal with this.

Paul

From: Steve Spamer 
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Dice World, am I missing something?

Hi folks. Ok so I've got Dice World and I've set up some Farkle games, but what 
I don't quite get is the time difference between turns?  I currently have 3 
games active, but it can take 9 hours or more for the other person to take 
their turn!!!  Now is this because they are waiting that long? or is it 
something to do with the game sending that information to that player?

 

Anyway, it's a fun little game, but I can't see myself playing it, if it takes 
over a week to play a game lol!  Advice please! Cheers Steve.

 

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New compaq voice and am I missing something

[Jesus Garcia]

Just finished updating and I completely agree with those who are 
saying there has been a major improvement in the compaq voice, I mean 
this is like night from day. Still prefer my HD voice, but this is now 
quite usable this is going to be very nice whenever I need to work on 
one of my sited friends phones or other IOS devices.
Now did I miss something with Voice Dream or is this a new addition with 
the update. I see Voice Dream is now showing up in the control center?


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Re: New compaq voice and am I missing something

[Kay Malmquist]

That was probably the last thing you listened to.  What ever you played last 
is what shows up there.  on mine right now is OOTunes.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:06 PM
Subject: New compaq voice and am I missing something


 Just finished updating and I completely agree with those who are
saying there has been a major improvement in the compaq voice, I mean
this is like night from day. Still prefer my HD voice, but this is now
quite usable this is going to be very nice whenever I need to work on
one of my sited friends phones or other IOS devices.
Now did I miss something with Voice Dream or is this a new addition with
the update. I see Voice Dream is now showing up in the control center?

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RE: New compaq voice and am I missing something

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, yep that makes sense, voice dream was the last app I used, thank you. 

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That was probably the last thing you listened to.  What ever you played last

is what shows up there.  on mine right now is OOTunes.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:06 PM
Subject: New compaq voice and am I missing something


 Just finished updating and I completely agree with those who are
saying there has been a major improvement in the compaq voice, I mean
this is like night from day. Still prefer my HD voice, but this is now
quite usable this is going to be very nice whenever I need to work on
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Am I Missing Something re Digit-eyes?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello All.

I have yet to read the tutorials re Digit-eyes but have read messages about it 
on this list and when opening the App, it seemed easy to use as explained in 
the tips.

My problem is this.

I took out a box from the freezer and thought I'd try the App.  So pointing my 
I phone 4S holding it a few inches away as the tip suggests, I start the scan.  
After the initial bleep, and the ticking sound begins.  No feedback from Voice 
Over and this sound continues and continues.  So, what is wrong with it and did 
I do anything wrong?  I was also hoping that Voice Over would give feedback to 
let me know that the bar code was found or not found.  Does this App not do 
this or is it impossible for this to happen?  I'm totally blind and to date 
have never been able to get Voice Over or any app to get a picture.

Kawal.

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Re: Am I Missing Something re Digit-eyes?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Thank you Rick. I best read the tutorials first and then try.

Kawal.

On 28 Apr 2012, at 10:09 PM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kowel.
 
 When the barcode is found, your phone will vibrate, and VO will let you know
 what's going on.  If it's a bar code it will say looking up bar code or
 something to that affect.  If you are not getting this then it means you
 haven't found the bar code yet.
 
 Best,
 
 Rick
 
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Am I Missing Something re Digit-eyes?
 
 Hello All.
 
 I have yet to read the tutorials re Digit-eyes but have read messages about
 it on this list and when opening the App, it seemed easy to use as explained
 in the tips.
 
 My problem is this.
 
 I took out a box from the freezer and thought I'd try the App.  So pointing
 my I phone 4S holding it a few inches away as the tip suggests, I start the
 scan.  After the initial bleep, and the ticking sound begins.  No feedback
 from Voice Over and this sound continues and continues.  So, what is wrong
 with it and did I do anything wrong?  I was also hoping that Voice Over
 would give feedback to let me know that the bar code was found or not found.
 Does this App not do this or is it impossible for this to happen?  I'm
 totally blind and to date have never been able to get Voice Over or any app
 to get a picture.
 
 Kawal.
 
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