Off topic question.

[Larry Smith]

This question is very much off topic. I hope I don’t get my head chopped off 
for posting here. My doctor has just prescribed ozempic for me to use for type 
diabetes. I have been using trulicity for several years now. However, None of 
the pharmacies in my area can get it. It seems to be out of stock and they 
don’t know when it will become available. So I was wondering if anyone on this 
list is using the ozempic pen. More so those who have little or no sight. I am 
a totally blind individual. I want to know if the ozempic pen can be used by a 
totally blind individual? Can you set the dosage without sighted assistance? So 
that I don’t upset the list too much, I would appreciate off list responses. 
larry.smith...@gmail.com. I can give my phone number after off list contact. 
Thanks 

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Slightly Off Topic regarding deleting an app on the Apple TV

[Debbie Downey]

Hello,

 

Sorry if this isn't exactly iPhone related; just wondering if anyone knows
how to delete an app from the Apple TV 4K 2nd generation using Voiceover?? I
don't want to offload an app or save it in the library but completely delete
it.

 

Thank you!

 

Debbie

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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

This is the real world application drawback for us. For sighted folks, it’s no 
big deal as they can just at a glance see in the notification screen capture or 
check the history if it was an Amazon or UPS driver doing a tuck and roll 
delivery which often it can be. Very rarely does anyone hang around after 
ringing the doorbell anymore

I’ve had a sign at my front door for years saying “no surveys, cermons or 
solicitations” which has thankfully cut down on most of the unwanted traffic to 
my doorbell.

In practicle terms though, the Ring doesn’t really add that much to the blind 
user experience in my oppinion at least. Mainly for the reasons mentioned 
above. It’s still good to have should something shady were to ever go down and 
have a record of it. The most exciting thing we ever captured was I think a 
bird of prey totally annihilating a dove or some small bird on our front lawn 
in the early morning.

Every blue moon I’ll still get a persistent solicitor or someone who wants to 
save my soul though and that’s when I appreciate having something like the 
Ring. Please read the sign. Thank you, but no. We’re not interested. Again, no. 
Dude… can’t you read?  Please leave. I’m not opening the door. Beat it. Now. 
Lady, get lost. We’re not buying what you’re selling. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: Marty  
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:58 PM
To: Cristobal Muñoz 
Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

I wonder why Apple hasn't come up with the iBell or some such that functions 
like Facetime.  This would be a doorbell device that when pressed, your phone 
rings and you answer it like answering a call.  I have an Amcrest Smart 
doorbell and the ap is so inconvenient that by the time I get through the 
screens to answer the doorbell, the person has left.  the Amcrest was supposed 
to have a desktop version that I would be able to answer my door on my 
computer, but it is totally inaccessible.

On 6/13/2022 10:00 AM, Cristobal Muñoz wrote:

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Holly
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Cristobel:

 

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community. 

 

Keep us updated.

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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Obviously… it was meant in jest. Chillax people.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.

I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.

 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:58 PM
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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Holly
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Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Cristobel:

 

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community. 

 

Keep us updated.

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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Christopher Chaltain]

Well, I agree with Johna and Sieghard, but I also choose to interpret 
Cristóbal'spost as an attempt at humor.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Actually, I am very chill , I was pointing out your  insensitivity in a very  
polite manner.
I was also trying to understand your intent.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Take a chill pill and you're welcome  for the input.

Cristóbal

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

By the way, is the below message supposed to be funny, I sure did not find it 
humorous!
Actually it's a bit crude to women and offensive!

Hey man... that's what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.



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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Johna Gravitt]

Actually, I am very chill , I was pointing out your  insensitivity in a very  
polite manner.
I was also trying to understand your intent.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Take a chill pill and you’re welcome  for the input.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 5:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

By the way, is the below message supposed to be funny, I sure did not find it 
humorous!
Actually it’s a bit crude to women and offensive!

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.



  TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 12:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.
I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:58 PM
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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:25 PM
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Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
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Cristobel:

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community.

Keep us updated.
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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Take a chill pill and you’re welcome  for the input.

 

Cristóbal

 

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Gravitt
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 5:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

By the way, is the below message supposed to be funny, I sure did not find it 
humorous!

Actually it’s a bit crude to women and offensive!

 

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 12:35 AM
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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.

I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.

 

 

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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

 

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Cristobel:

 

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community. 

 

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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Johna Gravitt]

By the way, is the below message supposed to be funny, I sure did not find it 
humorous!
Actually it’s a bit crude to women and offensive!

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.



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Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.
I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.


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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
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Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

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Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
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Cristobel:

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Johna Gravitt]

I had a sighted spouse, and quite honestly sometimes it’s better to do things 
myself, being as independent as possible!
I have nothing against asking for help and allowing sighted people to help, but 
to  say that’s what sighted people are for  just promotes the stereotype for 
individuals who are blind or disabled can’t do things on our own!


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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
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Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.
I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.


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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

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Cristobel:

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.
I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.


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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

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Cristobel:

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

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Weitzel
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security system

 

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

 

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Cristobel:

 

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

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That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
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Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Holly]

Cristobel:

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community. 

Keep us updated.

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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristobal Muñoz]

What I will say is when my Ring gives up the ghost, I’ll next be buying a video 
doorbell and cameras with facial recognition capability. I believe Google nest 
doorbells and cameras have this capability. I’ve read that Ring may be offering 
this in a future software or product update, but we’ll see. I know there are 
all sorts of privacy concerns with big brother and all that noise, but big 
brother be damned. Video doorbell and motion detection alerts are nice, but 
what good are they for us if that’s the only feedback we the blind get? 

At least with facial recognition,, you can built up your database  of people 
who may trigger your motion sensor. Neighbor cutting their grass. The FedEx guy 
dropping off a delivery. The bratty ass kid from the corner house playing 
ding-dong ditch etc.

 

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security system

 

The Amazon Ring doorbell is what you might like.

 

If you have an Alexa with a screen, you can see who is at your door quicker 
than bringing up the app on your phone, and you can talk to the person at the 
door through your Alexa  device, or your phone app.  To talk to the person 
through the Alexa device, just say ‘Alexa, talk to the back door, or whatever 
you name the door.  To see the person, if you have a Alexa with a screen, just 
say, Alexa, show me the front door, or whatever you name the door.

 

With the Ring app on the phone, you can see the video of who is at your door 
and also talk to them through your phone app, if you are away from home, or not 
near your Alexa.

 

 

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Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Holly]

The Amazon Ring doorbell is what you might like.

If you have an Alexa with a screen, you can see who is at your door quicker 
than bringing up the app on your phone, and you can talk to the person at the 
door through your Alexa  device, or your phone app.  To talk to the person 
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you name the door.  To see the person, if you have a Alexa with a screen, just 
say, Alexa, show me the front door, or whatever you name the door.

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Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Mich Verrier]

Hi I think the doorbell doorbell app site works good and is accessible it 
includes a door camera and the audio as well as the app as voiceover accessible 
hth from mich

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> My husband  and I have recently purchased our first home and I’m wondering if 
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> I was originally thinking something I can connect my Alexa or google 
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> looking for a security system, but also an outdoor camera and an intercom so 
> when someone rings my doorbell  I can ask who’s there before I answer the 
> door.
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Johna
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I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Johna Gravitt]

All,
My husband  and I have recently purchased our first home and I'm wondering if 
anyone can recommend a good accessible security system?
I was originally thinking something I can connect my Alexa or google assistant 
too, but I may be looking for too  many things in one package.  I'm looking for 
a security system, but also an outdoor camera and an intercom so when someone 
rings my doorbell  I can ask who's there before I answer the door.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Johna


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RE: Off topic, sorry

[M. Taylor]

Okay, this thread is to be closed, immediately.

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At least I do not have to add that anyone who continues this thread will have 
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Importance: High

I would agree with this! that particular group owner definitely has a Hitler 
issue, and enjoys being able to chuck there weight around.

Simon


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> Yeah definitely sounds like you've been banned. Who knows what you may 
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Re: Off topic, sorry

[goshawk on horseback]

I would agree with this! that particular group owner definitely has a Hitler 
issue, and enjoys being able to chuck there weight around.


Simon


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Yeah definitely sounds like you've been banned. Who knows what you may 
have done. Sorry to say it but that Owner is not very friendly. If you 
want, you can come over to Blind Techies



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Re: Off topic, sorry

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, Maria, how are you feeling? I hope you are doing better. Thanks. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
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>> On 11/11/2021 2:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Why not contact the group owner instead of posting on a list which has 
>> nothing to do with it and where you get guesses at best.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: November 11, 2021 11:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Off topic, sorry
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>> That is pretty common with Emisses; the owner of the group that I am on 
>> there is always having to get people back on.
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>> For a while, I continualy, once or twice a week got bounced from groups.io, 
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Re: Off topic, sorry

[Lynn White]

You can say what you will about the group owner. But he is not a sneaky 
guy. If you had done something wrong, he would have told you about it.


On 11/11/2021 1:11 PM, don.moore48 via VIPhone wrote:

Actually for whatever reason many groups.io posts get blocked because of spam 
filters mostly on our providers.  That message is in fact one of those 
messages.  The group owner has nothing to do with it.  I've actually received 
that notice on posts I've made to groups I own.  Obviously, I didn't ban 
myself!  Good luck.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off topic, sorry

Yeah definitely sounds like you've been banned. Who knows what you may have 
done. Sorry to say it but that Owner is not very friendly. If you want, you can 
come over to Blind Techies


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On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:

Has anyone been having issues posting to the blind-tech group? When I
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Re: Off topic, sorry

[Maria Campbell]

Wow!  You are so kind.  I was trying to make sure I was getting posts 
from other lists.



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On 11/11/2021 2:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Why not contact the group owner instead of posting on a list which has nothing 
to do with it and where you get guesses at best.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: November 11, 2021 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Off topic, sorry

That is pretty common with Emisses; the owner of the group that I am on there 
is always having to get people back on.

For a while, I continualy, once or twice a week got bounced from groups.io, had 
to learn to go on Net to get unbounced.

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Subject: Off topic, sorry

Has anyone been having issues posting to the blind-tech group? When I try I get 
the following message:  I can't imagine why I would be banned.



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RE: Off topic, sorry

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why not contact the group owner instead of posting on a list which has nothing 
to do with it and where you get guesses at best.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: November 11, 2021 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Off topic, sorry

That is pretty common with Emisses; the owner of the group that I am on there 
is always having to get people back on. 

For a while, I continualy, once or twice a week got bounced from groups.io, had 
to learn to go on Net to get unbounced. 

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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Off topic, sorry

Has anyone been having issues posting to the blind-tech group? When I try I get 
the following message:  I can't imagine why I would be banned.



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RE: Off topic, sorry

[Carolyn]

That is pretty common with Emisses; the owner of the group that I am on there 
is always having to get people back on. 

For a while, I continualy, once or twice a week got bounced from groups.io, had 
to learn to go on Net to get unbounced. 

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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Off topic, sorry

Has anyone been having issues posting to the blind-tech group? When I try I get 
the following message:  I can't imagine why I would be banned.



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RE: Off topic, sorry

[don.moore48 via VIPhone]

Actually for whatever reason many groups.io posts get blocked because of spam 
filters mostly on our providers.  That message is in fact one of those 
messages.  The group owner has nothing to do with it.  I've actually received 
that notice on posts I've made to groups I own.  Obviously, I didn't ban 
myself!  Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
Hudson
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off topic, sorry

Yeah definitely sounds like you've been banned. Who knows what you may have 
done. Sorry to say it but that Owner is not very friendly. If you want, you can 
come over to Blind Techies


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Re: Off topic, sorry

[Joseph Hudson]

  Help people out with computer issues finding cell phone plans everything 
technology.

> On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
> 
> While we're on this topic, may I ask what the blind techies group is all 
> about?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Hudson
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Off topic, sorry
> 
> Yeah definitely sounds like you've been banned. Who knows what you may have 
> done. Sorry to say it but that Owner is not very friendly. If you want, you 
> can come over to Blind Techies
> 
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RE: Off topic, sorry

[Johna Gravitt]

While we're on this topic, may I ask what the blind techies group is all about?


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Subject: Re: Off topic, sorry

Yeah definitely sounds like you've been banned. Who knows what you may have 
done. Sorry to say it but that Owner is not very friendly. If you want, you can 
come over to Blind Techies


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Re: Off topic, sorry

[Joseph Hudson]

Yeah definitely sounds like you've been banned. Who knows what you may have 
done. Sorry to say it but that Owner is not very friendly. If you want, you can 
come over to Blind Techies


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Off topic, sorry

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Has anyone been having issues posting to the blind-tech group? When I 
try I get the following message:  I can't imagine why I would be banned.




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RE: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

[Leo Bado]

Hi, I’m doing it now, thanks!

 

Best,

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Subject: Re: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

 

Try





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On Nov 7, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Leo Bado mailto:literophi...@myself.com> > wrote:



Hello everyone!

I was wondering if, by any means, someone knows something about any kind of 
mailing lists for blind and visually impaired educators, teachers, instructors, 
professors, etc.  I was thinking about if such a mailing list would exist. What 
I’m looking for is a mailing lists to share learning strategies, tips and 
tricks, teaching models, techniques, educational policies, etc., and also 
everything related to assistive technology from teachers and students’ points 
of view.  Discussion topics could be in the line of:

*Virtual classroom

*Tips and tricks to improve literacy with screen readers

*Language learning

*Metacognition

*Accessible online platforms for teachers

*UDL framework

*APA for blind teachers and students

 

And a long long etc

 

Any information will be highly appreciated!

Thank you.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Re: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

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Try

NOBE-L mailing list
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> On Nov 7, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello everyone!
> I was wondering if, by any means, someone knows something about any kind of 
> mailing lists for blind and visually impaired educators, teachers, 
> instructors, professors, etc.  I was thinking about if such a mailing list 
> would exist. What I’m looking for is a mailing lists to share learning 
> strategies, tips and tricks, teaching models, techniques, educational 
> policies, etc., and also everything related to assistive technology from 
> teachers and students’ points of view.  Discussion topics could be in the 
> line of:
> ·Virtual classroom
> ·Tips and tricks to improve literacy with screen readers
> ·Language learning
> ·Metacognition
> ·Accessible online platforms for teachers
> ·UDL framework
> ·APA for blind teachers and students
> 
>  
> And a long long etc
>  
> Any information will be highly appreciated!
> Thank you.
>  
> Best,
> Leo Bado
>  
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Re: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

[Joseph Hudson]

No it's via email. I'll post a link here. You have to subscribe via the website 
though. I tried looking for the link, and I can't seem to find it right now. 
But whenever I find the link I'll be sure to post it.

> On Nov 7, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:
> 
> Thank you very much Joseph,  I believe I will give it a try to the NOBE 
> mailing lists.
> 
> Best,
> Leo Bado
> 
> "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive." – 
> Elbert Hubbard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Hudson
> Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 11:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired 
> educators?
> 
> Hi Leo, there is something called the quality for indicators mailing list 
> which is run by the University of Kentucky, and they have a variety of 
> diverse of teachers instructors and OT specialist and stuff like that on 
> there. Perhaps that is what you're looking for.
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Leo Bado  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone!
>> I was wondering if, by any means, someone knows something about any kind of 
>> mailing lists for blind and visually impaired educators, teachers, 
>> instructors, professors, etc. I was thinking about if such a mailing list 
>> would exist. What I’m looking for is a mailing lists to share learning 
>> strategies, tips and tricks, teaching models, techniques, educational 
>> policies, etc., and also everything related to assistive technology from 
>> teachers and students’ points of view. Discussion topics could be in the 
>> line of:
>> ·Virtual classroom
>> ·Tips and tricks to improve literacy with screen readers
>> ·Language learning
>> ·Metacognition
>> ·Accessible online platforms for teachers
>> ·UDL framework
>> ·APA for blind teachers and students
>> 
>> 
>> And a long long etc
>> 
>> Any information will be highly appreciated!
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Leo Bado
>> 
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>> Elbert Hubbard
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RE: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

[Leo Bado]

I’m afraid some mailing lists created for this purpose remain inactive as well.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive." – Elbert 
Hubbard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

 

There used to be an email list called blind teachers. I do not know if it still 
exists, or what happened to it. I remember that it was not very active, 
probably no more than an average of one posting a day.

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On Nov 7, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Leo Bado mailto:literophi...@myself.com> > wrote:

 

Hello everyone!

I was wondering if, by any means, someone knows something about any kind of 
mailing lists for blind and visually impaired educators, teachers, instructors, 
professors, etc.  I was thinking about if such a mailing list would exist. What 
I’m looking for is a mailing lists to share learning strategies, tips and 
tricks, teaching models, techniques, educational policies, etc., and also 
everything related to assistive technology from teachers and students’ points 
of view.  Discussion topics could be in the line of:

*Virtual classroom

*Tips and tricks to improve literacy with screen readers

*Language learning

*Metacognition

*Accessible online platforms for teachers

*UDL framework

*APA for blind teachers and students

 

And a long long etc

 

Any information will be highly appreciated!

Thank you.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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RE: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

[Leo Bado]

Thank you very much Joseph,  I believe I will give it a try to the NOBE mailing 
lists.

Best,
Leo Bado

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Hubbard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
Hudson
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

Hi Leo, there is something called the quality for indicators mailing list which 
is run by the University of Kentucky, and they have a variety of diverse of 
teachers instructors and OT specialist and stuff like that on there. Perhaps 
that is what you're looking for.

> On Nov 7, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Leo Bado  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone!
> I was wondering if, by any means, someone knows something about any kind of 
> mailing lists for blind and visually impaired educators, teachers, 
> instructors, professors, etc. I was thinking about if such a mailing list 
> would exist. What I’m looking for is a mailing lists to share learning 
> strategies, tips and tricks, teaching models, techniques, educational 
> policies, etc., and also everything related to assistive technology from 
> teachers and students’ points of view. Discussion topics could be in the line 
> of:
> ·Virtual classroom
> ·Tips and tricks to improve literacy with screen readers
> ·Language learning
> ·Metacognition
> ·Accessible online platforms for teachers
> ·UDL framework
> ·APA for blind teachers and students
> 
>  
> And a long long etc
>  
> Any information will be highly appreciated!
> Thank you.
>  
> Best,
> Leo Bado
>  
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Re: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

[Cris Ali]

There used to be an email list called blind teachers. I do not know if it still 
exists, or what happened to it. I remember that it was not very active, 
probably no more than an average of one posting a day.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 7, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:


Hello everyone!
I was wondering if, by any means, someone knows something about any kind of 
mailing lists for blind and visually impaired educators, teachers, instructors, 
professors, etc.  I was thinking about if such a mailing list would exist. What 
I’m looking for is a mailing lists to share learning strategies, tips and 
tricks, teaching models, techniques, educational policies, etc., and also 
everything related to assistive technology from teachers and students’ points 
of view.  Discussion topics could be in the line of:

·Virtual classroom

·Tips and tricks to improve literacy with screen readers

·Language learning

·Metacognition

·Accessible online platforms for teachers

·UDL framework

·APA for blind teachers and students

And a long long etc

Any information will be highly appreciated!
Thank you.

Best,
Leo Bado

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Re: Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Leo, there is something called the quality for indicators mailing list which 
is run by the University of Kentucky, and they have a variety of diverse of 
teachers instructors and OT specialist and stuff like that on there. Perhaps 
that is what you're looking for.

> On Nov 7, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Leo Bado  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone!
> I was wondering if, by any means, someone knows something about any kind of 
> mailing lists for blind and visually impaired educators, teachers, 
> instructors, professors, etc. I was thinking about if such a mailing list 
> would exist. What I’m looking for is a mailing lists to share learning 
> strategies, tips and tricks, teaching models, techniques, educational 
> policies, etc., and also everything related to assistive technology from 
> teachers and students’ points of view. Discussion topics could be in the line 
> of:
> ·Virtual classroom
> ·Tips and tricks to improve literacy with screen readers
> ·Language learning
> ·Metacognition
> ·Accessible online platforms for teachers
> ·UDL framework
> ·APA for blind teachers and students
> 
>  
> And a long long etc
>  
> Any information will be highly appreciated!
> Thank you.
>  
> Best,
> Leo Bado
>  
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Off Topic: Mailing list for blind and visually impaired educators?

[Leo Bado]

Hello everyone!

I was wondering if, by any means, someone knows something about any kind of
mailing lists for blind and visually impaired educators, teachers,
instructors, professors, etc.  I was thinking about if such a mailing list
would exist. What I'm looking for is a mailing lists to share learning
strategies, tips and tricks, teaching models, techniques, educational
policies, etc., and also everything related to assistive technology from
teachers and students' points of view.  Discussion topics could be in the
line of:

*Virtual classroom

*Tips and tricks to improve literacy with screen readers

*Language learning

*Metacognition

*Accessible online platforms for teachers

*UDL framework

*APA for blind teachers and students



And a long long etc



Any information will be highly appreciated!

Thank you.



Best,

Leo Bado



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RE: off topic: Blind shell phone

[Paula Jordan]

Hi Rob.  Thanks for the info.  My friend isn't sure who would be the carrier 
for such a phone.  If you want you can write me off-list at 
pau...@roadrunner.com.
I've forwarded your information to her.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: off topic: Blind shell phone

Hi, I have these, I liked them from the start.

www.blindshell.com is their site I think, worth checking.

they have 3 main button models;  plus  one they call the "Boroque" I think, 
hwich implements  the BS on a touch screen.  Tapping on virtual number buttons 
repeatedly to get letter is bit of a nonsense.

But the 3 button versions are good.
The original is a little smaller and would  be regarded as a feature phone 
maybe,  the Classic 2 is a bit chunkier and a more robust and spaced number pad 
which feels a lot better and does have some app options like you'd expect on 
current smartt phone.  I opted for fB Messenger and whatsapp.

Browser has a good range of navigation options and so easy to toggle on the 
number keys, then up/down buttons to move by that increment.  
default/headings/controls, links/words/landmarks. then top of page, continuous 
read,  bottom of page.
The last 3 set things too.  bak/title/help.
Adopted this as casual browser when pc not on.

The third model is the light, priced accordingly  though no idea how much, but 
is just a phone with basic phone features, all of which at least talk - 
dial/sms/contacts mainly,  but just dial has 3 lists or sources of number to 
dial.
Thay all have the SOS button on back and hot dial by pres-and-hold on the 10 
digit buttons.

I'm very happy with this model and decommissioned an iPhone for the simm out 
ofit.
Micro-simm, not nano.

Worth checkin on site about the Light sicne it might have  
clock/timer/alarm/stopwatch and the like.

Hth, RobH.


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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 5:07 PM
Subject: off topic: Blind shell phone


Hi all.  I know this is a little off topic, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any information about the blind shell phone.  I know of someone who is
looking for one for her dad who is not able to manage an iphone.  If you'd
like you can write me off list at pau...@roadrunner.com
<mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> .  Thanks very much.

God bless!

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RE: off topic: Blind shell phone

[Alan Lemly]

Paula,

 

The Blindshell phone gets a good bit of discussion on the PhonesForTheBlind 
list. You can subscribe by sending a blank email to:

 

phonesfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
<mailto:phonesfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io> 

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: off topic: Blind shell phone

 

Hi all.  I know this is a little off topic, but I’m wondering if anyone has any 
information about the blind shell phone.  I know of someone who is looking for 
one for her dad who is not able to manage an iphone.  If you’d like you can 
write me off list at pau...@roadrunner.com <mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> .  
Thanks very much.

God bless!

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Re: off topic: Blind shell phone

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Hi, I have these, I liked them from the start.

www.blindshell.com is their site I think, worth checking.

they have 3 main button models;  plus  one they call the "Boroque" I think, 
hwich implements  the BS on a touch screen.  Tapping on 
virtual number buttons repeatedly to get letter is bit of a nonsense.

But the 3 button versions are good.
The original is a little smaller and would  be regarded as a feature phone 
maybe,  the Classic 2 is a bit chunkier and a more robust 
and spaced number pad which feels a lot better and does have some app options 
like you'd expect on current smartt phone.  I opted 
for fB Messenger and whatsapp.

Browser has a good range of navigation options and so easy to toggle on the 
number keys, then up/down buttons to move by that 
increment.  default/headings/controls, links/words/landmarks. then top of page, 
continuous read,  bottom of page.
The last 3 set things too.  bak/title/help.
Adopted this as casual browser when pc not on.

The third model is the light, priced accordingly  though no idea how much, but 
is just a phone with basic phone features, all of 
which at least talk - dial/sms/contacts mainly,  but just dial has 3 lists or 
sources of number to dial.
Thay all have the SOS button on back and hot dial by pres-and-hold on the 10 
digit buttons.

I'm very happy with this model and decommissioned an iPhone for the simm out 
ofit.
Micro-simm, not nano.

Worth checkin on site about the Light sicne it might have  
clock/timer/alarm/stopwatch and the like.

Hth, RobH.


- Original Message - 
From: "Paula Jordan" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 5:07 PM
Subject: off topic: Blind shell phone


Hi all.  I know this is a little off topic, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any information about the blind shell phone.  I know of someone who is
looking for one for her dad who is not able to manage an iphone.  If you'd
like you can write me off list at pau...@roadrunner.com
<mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> .  Thanks very much.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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off topic: Blind shell phone

[Paula Jordan]

Hi all.  I know this is a little off topic, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any information about the blind shell phone.  I know of someone who is
looking for one for her dad who is not able to manage an iphone.  If you'd
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Please Stop the Off-Topic Threads

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Recently, there have been a couple of threads that have gone far beyond the
scope of the group's topic center.

So, let's try to stay on point and not stray into off-topic subjects like
Covid and how to learn Braille.

As a dynamic community, some off-topic subjects are bound to be discussed,
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Re: perhaps off-topic question about rumba vaccuums

['Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone]

I have the room by seven it is very accessible with the app and you can also 
set up with Alexa. I tried another model that I 980 I believe not sure not as 
good would gets stuck underneath furniture would get lost.

Sent from my iPhone

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perhaps off-topic question about rumba vaccuums

[Paul JOrdan]

Hi all. I'm considering purchasing a rumba vacuum and wondering which one
might be best. I think you can program them using an Iphone which is why I'm
asking on this list. I have both carpet and hard flooring. If the
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Re: off topic, sort of Setting up My iPhone 11 Pro

[Richard Turner]

Here is the subscription email address for orbit reader
orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Lana  wrote:

Is there an email list for orbit reader users? Couldn't find it on the site. 
Can anyone help?

On 9/22/2020 1:40 PM, Dulce Weisenborn wrote:
Thanks, Richard. I got everything all set up. My Sim card will come tomorrow.

Sent from my iPhone

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off topic, sort of Setting up My iPhone 11 Pro

[Lana]

Is there an email list for orbit reader users? Couldn't find it on the 
site. Can anyone help?


On 9/22/2020 1:40 PM, Dulce Weisenborn wrote:

Thanks, Richard. I got everything all set up. My Sim card will come tomorrow.

Sent from my iPhone


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Off topic but if you have a fire tablet please email me

[Jen .]

The subject says it all so please email me as I am looking for accessible games 
that will work with voice viewer  on the fire tablet.
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RE: Off topic, Outlook issue today

[Anne West]

Thanks Kim but all is working as it should now. I don't get ads on my computer.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimber 
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Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off topic, Outlook issue today

Ugh. i spent two hours on this yesterday afternoon! I did get my outlook 
working again though. I did it by disabling the add ins.

If you want the steps to do this I can provide them.

Kim

On 7/16/20, Afik Souffir  wrote:
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>
> Hi Ann and all,
>
>
>
> I have the same problem since yesterday evening Israel time.
>
>
>
> The problem hasn’t been fixed yet.
>
>
>
> For now, I’m using mail for windows 10.
>
>
>
> Hope they will fix it soon!
>
>
>
> Afik.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
> From: Anne West
> Sent: יום חמישי 16 יולי 2020 04:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Off topic, Outlook issue today
>
>
>
> Good evening everyone.
>
>
>
> I was not very happy earlier today when I wanted to check email and in 
> no way could I open Outlook. It did some very strange things.
>
>
>
> I called the company hosting my virus protection and computer repair 
> and I was told it was a Microsoft issue and not my computer. Outlook 
> was back when I checked my mail at 8:15. I was advised that Microsoft 
> would have the problem fixed tomorrow. I checked email on my iPhone but 
> didn’t answer many.
>
>
>
> So, if you were pulling your hair out earlier today you know why.
>
>
>
> Anne
>
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RE: Off topic, Outlook issue today

[dfibraio]

Hi. Don't post here much, but I saw an article on this yesterday, I think from 
PC World, that mentioned Microsoft hosed Outlook and they were working on a 
fix. They did have a command line thing you could do to roll back Outlook to 
the last stable version, which I did and that worked. Google pcworld outlook 
crash and maybe you'll find it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimber 
Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off topic, Outlook issue today

Ugh. i spent two hours on this yesterday afternoon! I did get my outlook 
working again though. I did it by disabling the add ins.

If you want the steps to do this I can provide them.

Kim

On 7/16/20, Afik Souffir  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Ann and all,
>
>
>
> I have the same problem since yesterday evening Israel time.
>
>
>
> The problem hasn’t been fixed yet.
>
>
>
> For now, I’m using mail for windows 10.
>
>
>
> Hope they will fix it soon!
>
>
>
> Afik.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
> From: Anne West
> Sent: יום חמישי 16 יולי 2020 04:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Off topic, Outlook issue today
>
>
>
> Good evening everyone.
>
>
>
> I was not very happy earlier today when I wanted to check email and in 
> no way could I open Outlook. It did some very strange things.
>
>
>
> I called the company hosting my virus protection and computer repair 
> and I was told it was a Microsoft issue and not my computer. Outlook 
> was back when I checked my mail at 8:15. I was advised that Microsoft 
> would have the problem fixed tomorrow. I checked email on my iPhone but 
> didn’t answer many.
>
>
>
> So, if you were pulling your hair out earlier today you know why.
>
>
>
> Anne
>
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Re: Off topic, Outlook issue today

[Kimber Gardner]

Ugh. i spent two hours on this yesterday afternoon! I did get my
outlook working again though. I did it by disabling the add ins.

If you want the steps to do this I can provide them.

Kim

On 7/16/20, Afik Souffir  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Ann and all,
>
>
>
> I have the same problem since yesterday evening Israel time.
>
>
>
> The problem hasn’t been fixed yet.
>
>
>
> For now, I’m using mail for windows 10.
>
>
>
> Hope they will fix it soon!
>
>
>
> Afik.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
> From: Anne West
> Sent: יום חמישי 16 יולי 2020 04:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Off topic, Outlook issue today
>
>
>
> Good evening everyone.
>
>
>
> I was not very happy earlier today when I wanted to check email and in no
> way could I open Outlook. It did some very strange things.
>
>
>
> I called the company hosting my virus protection and computer repair and I
> was told it was a Microsoft issue and not my computer. Outlook was back when
> I checked my mail at 8:15. I was advised that Microsoft would have the
> problem fixed tomorrow. I checked email on my iPhone but didn’t answer many.
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Anne
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RE: Off topic, Outlook issue today

[Afik Souffir]

 Hi Ann and all, I have the same problem since yesterday evening Israel time. The problem hasn’t been fixed yet.  For now, I’m using mail for windows 10.  Hope they will fix it soon! Afik.   Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Anne WestSent: יום חמישי 16 יולי 2020 04:19To: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Off topic, Outlook issue today Good evening everyone. I was not very happy earlier today when I wanted to check email and in no way could I open Outlook. It did some very strange things. I called the company hosting my virus protection and computer repair and I was told it was a Microsoft issue and not my computer. Outlook was back when I checked my mail at 8:15. I was advised that Microsoft would have the problem fixed tomorrow. I checked email on my iPhone but didn’t answer many. So, if you were pulling your hair out earlier today you know why. Anne -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/012f01d65b0f%24339024d0%249ab06e70%24%40gmail.com. 



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Off topic, Outlook issue today

[Anne West]

Good evening everyone.

 

I was not very happy earlier today when I wanted to check email and in no
way could I open Outlook. It did some very strange things.

 

I called the company hosting my virus protection and computer repair and I
was told it was a Microsoft issue and not my computer. Outlook was back when
I checked my mail at 8:15. I was advised that Microsoft would have the
problem fixed tomorrow. I checked email on my iPhone but didn't answer many.

 

So, if you were pulling your hair out earlier today you know why.

 

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Re: Slightly off-topic, please may I have the newest address for the orbit reader email list?

[Richard Turner]

That is the correct address, but are you subscribed to the group?
If not, the subscribe address is orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io




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On Jan 21, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Wren Langley  wrote:

Hi all, I tried to send a message to the address
orbit-rea...@groups.io
It did not go through. If anyone has the newest email address would you please 
send it to me? Thank you so much.

God bless,
Wren Langley

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Slightly off-topic, please may I have the newest address for the orbit reader email list?

[Wren Langley]

Hi all, I tried to send a message to the address
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off topic: looking for an accessible dvd player

[Larry Lumpkin]

I have permission from Mark to post the following:

I am looking for an accessible DVD player and know this list contains many
people with diverse experiences. I know there are many accessible models
including Phillips-the brand I am most interested in. The question I am
asking is; do any of the accessible models you know about speak the dvd
title information while navigating the dvd menu. I have a model where the
buttons speak but what I need is title information. I don't expect the
actual title name to speak but something like "Title 1", "Title 2", etc. I
would appreciate any information you might have and please post to me
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Re: off topic question concerning rp list information thank you

[Arlene]

Marcio, thank you so much, just what I was looking for. Now I'm going to 
definitely save this information in more than one folder and I'm going to send 
it to 2 friends that want to go on to the list.

Arlene


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  Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: off topic question concerning rp list information


  Arlene,

  Gary's message is below. Hope this helps :)

I belong to an email support group for those interested in retinitis 
pigmentosa (i.e. RP) as well as all other retinal disorders. 

It's a very helpful group called RPList.

To join, send a blank email message to: 
rplist-subscribe-requ...@listserv.icors.org

After sending the blank message, you should receive a confirmation message 
from the group.

Please contact me privately if you have any questions or if you have 
difficulty joining the list.

My email addy is:
gdbow...@att.net

  Cheers, 
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Re: off topic question concerning rp list information

['Marcio' via VIPhone]

Arlene,
Gary's message is below. Hope this helps :)
I belong to an email support group for those interested in retinitis 
pigmentosa (i.e. RP) as well as all other retinal disorders.


It's a very helpful group called RPList.

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rplist-subscribe-requ...@listserv.icors.org

After sending the blank message, you should receive a confirmation 
message from the group.


Please contact me privately if you have any questions or if you have 
difficulty joining the list.


My email addy is:
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Cheers,
Marcio 
AKA /Starboy/


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off topic question concerning rp list information

[Arlene]

I apologize for this off topic question and I hope this is the right list where 
I read the information from a member named Gary about the rp list. I thought I 
had saved the subscribing information and I can't seem to find it. Anyway, 
Gary, if you're reading this message, if you can please send the subscribing 
directions for this helpful list you're on. You could send the information to 
me off list, my email address is
arlenes71...@earthlink.net
I have a few friends that have rp and didn't know of the list. Thank you for 
the information.

Arlene

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Re: Off-Topic: Article: A cure for blindness

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

- Original Message -
From: M. Taylor  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Monday, 15 July 2019 1.21 am
Subject: Off-Topic:  Article:  A cure for blindness

>
>
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> A list member sent the following article to me requesting that it be posted
> to the group despite the fact that it is not related to any Apple products.
> 
> Now while I am definitely not going to make a habit of posting such
> off-topic material to the list, in this instance, because the prospects of
> the technology are so far reaching, and because our group, in addition to
> being an Apple technology resource, also serves as a kind of community, I
> have decided to post it to the group.
> 
> Now I know that some of you may take exception to my decision to post this
> article and if so, please contact me, off-list.  
> 
> Also, I request that there be no on-list replies to this thread.  It is
> informational, only.  It is not intended to be a conversation starter.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Mark
> 
> A cure for blindness 
> By Ben Spencer 
> Daily Mail, Jul 12, 2019
>  
> A cure for blindness: Father, 35, who suddenly lost his sight aged nine is
> among six patients to have their vision restored by pioneering treatment
> that beams images directly into the brain 
> Doctors have restored sight to the blind by sending video images directly to
> the brain. 
> In a world-first that offers hope to millions of patients, five men and one
> woman have regained vision after years of 'living in the dark'. 
> They had electrode chips planted in the visual cortex at the back of their
> skulls that picked up images from a tiny video camera mounted in a pair of
> glasses. Their eyes were bypassed completely. 
> One of the participants, Benjamin James Spencer, who went blind aged nine,
> described his joy at seeing his wife and three daughters for the first time.
> 'It is awe inspiring to see so much beauty1' the 35-year-old told the Daily
> Mail last night. 'I could see the roundness of my wife's face, the shape of
> her body. 
> 'I could see my kids running up to give me a hug. It is not perfect vision -
> it is like grainy 1980s surveillance video footage. It may not be full
> vision yet, but it's something.' 
> Mr Spencer described how, when he was nine years old, his world went black. 
> 'It was September 18, 1992, a week after my birthday1' he said. 'I was at
> school leaving a class and in the time it took me to walk 50ft everything
> disappeared. 
> 'At first it started to go foggy and then a few paces later it was just
> dark. 
> 'I panicked and started screaming and kind of went into shock. Everything
> after that is pretty vague.' 
> In the coming days specialists at a hospital near his home in Texas broke
> the news that he would never see again. 
> 'I was told this was going to be my future. I was classed as lacking 100 per
> cent light perception. I was bl1' he said. 
> Mr Spencer had paediatric glaucoma, a rare condition caused by a defect in
> the eye's drainage system. 
> It had been incurable but scientists have now managed to bypass the broken
> link by sending images directly to the visual cortex, the part of the brain
> responsible for sight. 
> Mr Spencer lives in the city of Pearland, near Houston, with his wife
> Jeanette, 42, and daughters Abigail, 15, Melissa, 13, and Jane, ten. In
> April 2018, he became one of just six people to have a 60-electrode panel
> implanted in the back of his brain. 
> Surgeons at Baylor Medical College in Houston spent two hours cutting a
> window in his skull, placing the electrode array on the surface of the
> brain, and stitching it up again. They then spent six months 'mapping' his
> visual field. 
> This involved sending computer signals to the stimulation panel in his head
> to synchronise his brain to the real world--in effect teaching his visual
> cortex to process images again. 
> Eventually, in October, the device was wirelessly connected to a tiny video
> camera, mounted in a pair of glasses, and switched on. He saw his wife and
> three children for the very first time. 
> 'It was an incredible moment1' he told the Daily Mail. 'It was very
> humbling.' 
> Describing catching a glimpse of the sun through the window, he said: 'Such
> a tiny thing is normal for people who have vision. But I had not seen the
> sun since I was nine years old. I had felt its heat, but actually seeing it
> was incredible. After 25 and a half years of living in the dark, it is awe
> inspiring to see so much beauty.' 
> In January, after months of hospital testing, he was allowed to take the
> device home. The terms of the clinical trial means he can only switch it on
> for three hours a day, but he makes the most of it. 'I usually u

Off-Topic: Article: A cure for blindness

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

A list member sent the following article to me requesting that it be posted
to the group despite the fact that it is not related to any Apple products.

Now while I am definitely not going to make a habit of posting such
off-topic material to the list, in this instance, because the prospects of
the technology are so far reaching, and because our group, in addition to
being an Apple technology resource, also serves as a kind of community, I
have decided to post it to the group.

Now I know that some of you may take exception to my decision to post this
article and if so, please contact me, off-list.  

Also, I request that there be no on-list replies to this thread.  It is
informational, only.  It is not intended to be a conversation starter.

Thank you

Mark

A cure for blindness 
By Ben Spencer 
Daily Mail, Jul 12, 2019
 
A cure for blindness: Father, 35, who suddenly lost his sight aged nine is
among six patients to have their vision restored by pioneering treatment
that beams images directly into the brain 
Doctors have restored sight to the blind by sending video images directly to
the brain. 
In a world-first that offers hope to millions of patients, five men and one
woman have regained vision after years of 'living in the dark'. 
They had electrode chips planted in the visual cortex at the back of their
skulls that picked up images from a tiny video camera mounted in a pair of
glasses. Their eyes were bypassed completely. 
One of the participants, Benjamin James Spencer, who went blind aged nine,
described his joy at seeing his wife and three daughters for the first time.
'It is awe inspiring to see so much beauty,' the 35-year-old told the Daily
Mail last night. 'I could see the roundness of my wife's face, the shape of
her body. 
'I could see my kids running up to give me a hug. It is not perfect vision -
it is like grainy 1980s surveillance video footage. It may not be full
vision yet, but it's something.' 
Mr Spencer described how, when he was nine years old, his world went black. 
'It was September 18, 1992, a week after my birthday,' he said. 'I was at
school leaving a class and in the time it took me to walk 50ft everything
disappeared. 
'At first it started to go foggy and then a few paces later it was just
dark. 
'I panicked and started screaming and kind of went into shock. Everything
after that is pretty vague.' 
In the coming days specialists at a hospital near his home in Texas broke
the news that he would never see again. 
'I was told this was going to be my future. I was classed as lacking 100 per
cent light perception. I was blind,' he said. 
Mr Spencer had paediatric glaucoma, a rare condition caused by a defect in
the eye's drainage system. 
It had been incurable but scientists have now managed to bypass the broken
link by sending images directly to the visual cortex, the part of the brain
responsible for sight. 
Mr Spencer lives in the city of Pearland, near Houston, with his wife
Jeanette, 42, and daughters Abigail, 15, Melissa, 13, and Jane, ten. In
April 2018, he became one of just six people to have a 60-electrode panel
implanted in the back of his brain. 
Surgeons at Baylor Medical College in Houston spent two hours cutting a
window in his skull, placing the electrode array on the surface of the
brain, and stitching it up again. They then spent six months 'mapping' his
visual field. 
This involved sending computer signals to the stimulation panel in his head
to synchronise his brain to the real world - in effect teaching his visual
cortex to process images again. 
Eventually, in October, the device was wirelessly connected to a tiny video
camera, mounted in a pair of glasses, and switched on. He saw his wife and
three children for the very first time. 
'It was an incredible moment,' he told the Daily Mail. 'It was very
humbling.' 
Describing catching a glimpse of the sun through the window, he said: 'Such
a tiny thing is normal for people who have vision. But I had not seen the
sun since I was nine years old. I had felt its heat, but actually seeing it
was incredible. After 25 and a half years of living in the dark, it is awe
inspiring to see so much beauty.' 
In January, after months of hospital testing, he was allowed to take the
device home. The terms of the clinical trial means he can only switch it on
for three hours a day, but he makes the most of it. 'I usually use it for 45
minutes at a time and space it out,' he said. 'If I want to go to the store
or if one of my kids has a performance. 
'It is not perfect vision - it is like grainy 1980s surveillance video
footage,' he said. 
'I can see silhouettes, I can see light and shade, I can guess at colours.
It may not be full vision yet, but it's something. 
'I can go to the store, I can walk without my cane, I can sort my dark
laundry from the whites, I can see a crack in the sidewalk coming up. I
could see a sign sticking out - but I couldn't read what it said.' 
Even when completely blind, Mr Spencer

Re: Lucia Phone, Sorry that was off topic for this list

[Arlene]

That's understandable, Richard, I understand how it fit into your message to 
joshua, as something alternative, but that's right it has nothing to do with 
this list. If anyone here does want to know more, write me off list for a web 
address you would be able to get into since some people were having trouble 
with the web page, my email address is
arlenes71...@earthlink.net
nothing more said now.

Arlene

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: ViPone list 
  Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 5:22 PM
  Subject: Lucia Phone, Sorry that was off topic for this list




  i work in Oregon and have a Lucia phone at work; so clearly they are 
available in the United States, but maybe not widely yet. 
  But since it is not an iPhone; I will not continue contributing to the thread.
  I had only mentioned it because Joshua talked about going back to a "flip 
phone.
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Lucia Phone, Sorry that was off topic for this list

[Richard Turner]

i work in Oregon and have a Lucia phone at work; so clearly they are available 
in the United States, but maybe not widely yet.
But since it is not an iPhone; I will not continue contributing to the thread.
I had only mentioned it because Joshua talked about going back to a "flip phone.
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RE: slightly off topic, instant pot manual

[Cristobal Muñoz]

… You can always go to the IP website and if they don’t have a webpage version, 
then they’ll probably have it in PDF to download or view.

 

 

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Paula Jordan
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Subject: slightly off topic, instant pot manual

 

Does anyone know of a manual in accessible format for the instapot?  Thanks.

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Does anyone know of a manual in accessible format for the instapot?  Thanks.

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RE: A question regarding an Echo Dot that probably is off topic for thislist, where can I get help?

[Robert Wright]

It still counts since the Alexa app is on your iPhone.

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From: Kevin Minor
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question regarding an Echo Dot that probably is off topic for 
thislist, where can I get help?

Hi.

This past Monday I received an Echo Dot.  I got it set up mainly with the 
Amazon Alexa app on my iPhone X.  However, I’m having a problem playing College 
Basketball games with the TuneIn Live skill.  I know this list is for iOS 
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RE: A question regarding an Echo Dot that probably is off topic for this list, where can I get help?

[Merv Keck]

HI,

I use Tune In Live here at the house with my two Dots. The group I am on has 
over 360 members who are blind and/or visually impaired.

main+subscr...@echoing.groups.io <mailto:main+subscr...@echoing.groups.io> 

Merv

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question regarding an Echo Dot that probably is off topic for this 
list, where can I get help?

 

Hi.

 

This past Monday I received an Echo Dot.  I got it set up mainly with the 
Amazon Alexa app on my iPhone X.  However, I’m having a problem playing College 
Basketball games with the TuneIn Live skill.  I know this list is for iOS 
devices, and I don’t think the Echo Dot counts.  If someone could either 
privately let me know how to do this, or point me to a more appropriate list to 
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appreciate the help.  I do have a question regarding accessing skill content in 
the Amazon Alexa app, and I’ll send that in a separate message since I know 
that’s iOS related.

 

Thanks in advance for any info or help.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and my Seeing Eye dog, Jilly, Lexington, KY

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RE: A question regarding an Echo Dot that probably is off topic for this list, where can I get help?

[sherrywells1157]

Hello Kevin,

 

There is a very good echo email list.  The traffic is steady but not quite as 
heavy as on this list.  To subscribe send an email to:

echo+subscr...@groups.io

 

As with most all lists, you’ll get an email asking you to confirm your 
subscription.  Just reply to it & you’re in.

 

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question regarding an Echo Dot that probably is off topic for this 
list, where can I get help?

 

Hi.

 

This past Monday I received an Echo Dot.  I got it set up mainly with the 
Amazon Alexa app on my iPhone X.  However, I’m having a problem playing College 
Basketball games with the TuneIn Live skill.  I know this list is for iOS 
devices, and I don’t think the Echo Dot counts.  If someone could either 
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appreciate the help.  I do have a question regarding accessing skill content in 
the Amazon Alexa app, and I’ll send that in a separate message since I know 
that’s iOS related.

 

Thanks in advance for any info or help.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and my Seeing Eye dog, Jilly, Lexington, KY

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A question regarding an Echo Dot that probably is off topic for this list, where can I get help?

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

This past Monday I received an Echo Dot.  I got it set up mainly with the 
Amazon Alexa app on my iPhone X.  However, I'm having a problem playing College 
Basketball games with the TuneIn Live skill.  I know this list is for iOS 
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Re: Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product

[Devin Prater]

Well, if I get a pair, they should be good enough for the whole family. So,
until they gain support for using multiple people's voices, like each
iPhonedoes with Siri, I'm holding off.
Devin Pratersent from Gmail.


On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 11:48 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Let's just hope they will also be on sale at Best Buy in Canada, I might
> be tempted to get a pair for our bedroom if they are a good deal especially
> since I have $800 in Best Buy gift cards which I purchased with Aeroplan
> points last year when I had so many that I didn't know what to do with them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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>
> Hi all,
> This coming Black Friday, there’s going to be a serious discount on the
> HomePod speaker from Apple at Best Buy. I am thinking about getting a pair
> of those in an effort for overall down sizing. I have currently a nice
> stereo set up, but it’s rather old, although the speakers are still
> wonderful. I’m just curious what peoples impressions are of the HomePod,
> especially as a stereo pair in a moderate sized living room, as well as how
> it works otherwise. Siri, phone calls, etc.
> Mary
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RE: Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Let's just hope they will also be on sale at Best Buy in Canada, I might be 
tempted to get a pair for our bedroom if they are a good deal especially since 
I have $800 in Best Buy gift cards which I purchased with Aeroplan points last 
year when I had so many that I didn't know what to do with them.

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Hi all,
This coming Black Friday, there’s going to be a serious discount on the HomePod 
speaker from Apple at Best Buy. I am thinking about getting a pair of those in 
an effort for overall down sizing. I have currently a nice stereo set up, but 
it’s rather old, although the speakers are still wonderful. I’m just curious 
what peoples impressions are of the HomePod, especially as a stereo pair in a 
moderate sized living room, as well as how it works otherwise. Siri, phone 
calls, etc. 
Mary


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Re: Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product

[Jim Fettgather]

I have two home pods,  and I am so glad I made the purchase!
They are fantastic, they can fill an entire room with incredibly rich, 
beautiful stereo sound.
Incredible bass, they can be unbelievably  loud if you are not careful, I 
have mine at 50% and that is plenty loud!
And of course, they can make phone calls and send text messages as well, 
they are among the best purchases I have ever made.

You can move them around easily if you wish, they are great!
-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

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Hi all,
This coming Black Friday, there’s going to be a serious discount on the 
HomePod speaker from Apple at Best Buy. I am thinking about getting a pair 
of those in an effort for overall down sizing. I have currently a nice 
stereo set up, but it’s rather old, although the speakers are still 
wonderful. I’m just curious what peoples impressions are of the HomePod, 
especially as a stereo pair in a moderate sized living room, as well as how 
it works otherwise. Siri, phone calls, etc.

Mary


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Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
This coming Black Friday, there’s going to be a serious discount on the HomePod 
speaker from Apple at Best Buy. I am thinking about getting a pair of those in 
an effort for overall down sizing. I have currently a nice stereo set up, but 
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moderate sized living room, as well as how it works otherwise. Siri, phone 
calls, etc. 
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Off-topic: A P H desktop cassette recorder wanted

[Robin Christopherson]

Dear listers

My Mum is in need of an A P H cassette recorder of the larger desktop variety 
that is in good working order to help her learn her piano pieces. If anyone has 
one for sale please contact me off-list.

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off topic, looking for email list

[pablocmd2014]

Hello all,

I am looking for an email list with some characteristics that are not very
common. However I would like to know if you guys know a page with a large
list of blind email list. You know, some times there are email list with a
very specific and limited topic like jaws, or iPhone, or NVDA, but sometimes
are email list with topics a little bit more  eccentric. Any help will be
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off topic: to anyone using q-continuum's hope interface for pandora

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hello. I have received permission from mark to post the following. Please
reply directly to me at

 

llump...@austin.rr.com  

 

I have been using hope for pandora for years. It is a marvelously simple
interface to use pandora-much easier than either pandora's website or the
app. After updating to the latest windows 10 creator and jaws 2018, the
program has ceased to function. Has anyone else experienced this and has
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Re: Totally Off Topic; Advice/help Needed

[Christopher Chaltain]

The link is https://www.inclusiveandroid.com/


There's also the Eyes-Free mailing list, which you can subscribe to by 
sending a blank email to eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
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On 10/13/2017 10:54 PM, Robin wrote:
YourFriend will have a Built In Tutorial of Google's Answer to Apple's 
VoiceOver in Google's TalkBack as there is a Tutorial within 
TalkBack's Settings on its Use on Google's Android


And, there is a WebSite by TheCommunity of Android Users, who are 
either TotallyBlind or LowVision, & it is InConclusiveAndroid.com or 
EnclusiveAndroid.com


Sorry as I'm not Too Sure of TheSpelling

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I have a friend who is getting an android phone.

If anyone knows of a good tutorial that would help learning their 
version of voiceover, I’d really appreciate it.


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Re: Totally Off Topic; Advice/help Needed

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I replied privately, I remember how much help I Didn't get when I needed to try 
that platform.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 12:46 AM
Subject: Totally Off Topic; Advice/help Needed


I have a friend who is getting an android phone.

If anyone knows of a good tutorial that would help learning their version of
voiceover, I'd really appreciate it.

Noe



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Re: Totally Off Topic; Advice/help Needed

[Robin]

YourFriend will have a Built In Tutorial of Google's Answer to 
Apple's VoiceOver in Google's TalkBack as there is a Tutorial within 
TalkBack's Settings on its Use on Google's Android


And, there is a WebSite by TheCommunity of Android Users, who are 
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EnclusiveAndroid.com


Sorry as I'm not Too Sure of TheSpelling

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I have a friend who is getting an android phone.

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Noe



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RE: Totally Off Topic; Advice/help Needed

[Noe Villeda]

Thanks!
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 8:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Totally Off Topic; Advice/help Needed
 
Try inclusiveandroid.com <http://inclusiveandroid.com> .  It is similar to 
applevis.com <http://applevis.com> .
 
 
Sent from my iPhone 7 Plus

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voiceover, I’d really appreciate it.
 
Noe
 
 
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Re: Totally Off Topic; Advice/help Needed

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Try inclusiveandroid.com.  It is similar to applevis.com.



Sent from my iPhone 7 Plus

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 7:46 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
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> I have a friend who is getting an android phone.
>  
> If anyone knows of a good tutorial that would help learning their version of 
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>  
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Totally Off Topic; Advice/help Needed

[Noe Villeda]

I have a friend who is getting an android phone.
 
If anyone knows of a good tutorial that would help learning their version of
voiceover, I'd really appreciate it.
 
Noe
 
 

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A bit off topic, but relevant: Aira in Chicago

[Michael Hingson]

If anyone is in the Chicago area this Saturday and wants to learn more about
Aira drop by the AT store at 16 N. State Street in Chicago at 2PM where I
will be making a presentation about Aira. There will be a drawing for an
AT$500 gift card as well as other items will be given away. AT also will
be holding, as part of the event, an accessibility seminar on smart phone
use. 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

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"Speaking with Vision"

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Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:

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animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle

 

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Re: Off-topic, but urgent. Capture solving help needed with Internet explore

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi There are 2 programs called captcha be gone and rumola on the web that 
can solve captchas.
Don't ask me details about this because I do not have any experience with 
the programs. I only heard they are not free.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 6:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Off-topic, but urgent. Capture solving help needed with 
Internet explore


Why don't you try Be my Eyes and get a sighted helper to look at your 
computer screen with the help of your iPhone and the Be My Eyes app.


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Of Lea W Langley

Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Off-topic, but urgent. Capture solving help needed with Internet 
explore


Hi all,
Thank you very much for the help. I apologize for the previous message that 
had no subject. I'm not sure what happened.


Our use Internet Explorer with the latest version of jaws. I need to pay my 
rent and they have put a caption in there. I tried to get the audio 
challenge but I couldn't hear it very well. Could someone please help me 
with typing in the capture and getting the audio challenge and also how to 
solve the capture with Internet explorer.

Thank you

God bless,
Wren Langley
PS if you want to write me off the list that is fine. Any help would be 
greatly appreciated and is very much needed.


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RE: Off-topic, but urgent. Capture solving help needed with Internet explore

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why don't you try Be my Eyes and get a sighted helper to look at your computer 
screen with the help of your iPhone and the Be My Eyes app.

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Lea W Langley
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Off-topic, but urgent. Capture solving help needed with Internet 
explore

Hi all,
Thank you very much for the help. I apologize for the previous message that had 
no subject. I'm not sure what happened.

Our use Internet Explorer with the latest version of jaws. I need to pay my 
rent and they have put a caption in there. I tried to get the audio challenge 
but I couldn't hear it very well. Could someone please help me with typing in 
the capture and getting the audio challenge and also how to solve the capture 
with Internet explorer.
Thank you

God bless,
Wren Langley
PS if you want to write me off the list that is fine. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated and is very much needed.

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Off-topic, but urgent. Capture solving help needed with Internet explore

[Lea W Langley]

Hi all,
Thank you very much for the help. I apologize for the previous message that had 
no subject. I'm not sure what happened.

Our use Internet Explorer with the latest version of jaws. I need to pay my 
rent and they have put a caption in there. I tried to get the audio challenge 
but I couldn't hear it very well. Could someone please help me with typing in 
the capture and getting the audio challenge and also how to solve the capture 
with Internet explorer.
Thank you

God bless,
Wren Langley
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appreciated and is very much needed.

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Re: windows 10 boot camp. sorry if it is off topic to this group.

[Mário Gabriel]

thank you Joseph.

cheers.


Às 16:56 de 10/05/2017, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,
I'll forward this to a more appropriate list.

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Mário Gabriel
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:15 AM
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Subject: windows 10 boot camp. sorry if it is off topic to this group.




Hi
Can anyone know if the drivers pack for windows 10 boot camp is not available 
for download in the apple downloads support?
I tried to find this package, but the latest one is only for windows 7, 8, and 
8.1.
I prefer to download the drivers before the installation process.
Because in the installation process when arrives to download the software 
package of the drivers, the download does not work.
I never get the download during the installation process.
How to download the drivers for windows 10 boot camp?
Or is it necessary to download   the windows 10 drivers software
package   during the boot camp installation process on windows 10?

Is it now possible to download the drivers during the boot camp process in 
windows 10?
Model, iMac 2013.
Some tips?
thank you all.


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RE: windows 10 boot camp. sorry if it is off topic to this group.

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I'll forward this to a more appropriate list.

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Mário Gabriel
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Subject: windows 10 boot camp. sorry if it is off topic to this group.




Hi
Can anyone know if the drivers pack for windows 10 boot camp is not available 
for download in the apple downloads support?
I tried to find this package, but the latest one is only for windows 7, 8, and 
8.1.
I prefer to download the drivers before the installation process.
Because in the installation process when arrives to download the software 
package of the drivers, the download does not work.
I never get the download during the installation process.
How to download the drivers for windows 10 boot camp?
Or is it necessary to download   the windows 10 drivers software 
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Is it now possible to download the drivers during the boot camp process in 
windows 10?
Model, iMac 2013.
Some tips?
thank you all.


Cheers.

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windows 10 boot camp. sorry if it is off topic to this group.

[Mário Gabriel]

Hi
Can anyone know if the drivers pack for windows 10 boot camp is not 
available for download in the apple downloads support?
I tried to find this package, but the latest one is only for windows 7, 
8, and 8.1.

I prefer to download the drivers before the installation process.
Because in the installation process when arrives to download the 
software package of the drivers, the download does not work.

I never get the download during the installation process.
How to download the drivers for windows 10 boot camp?
Or is it necessary to download   the windows 10 drivers software 
package   during the boot camp installation process on windows 10?


Is it now possible to download the drivers during the boot camp process 
in windows 10?

Model, iMac 2013.
Some tips?
thank you all.


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Re: Totally Off Topic, apology in advance

[Richard Turner]

I replied off line with a resource page since this is clearly not appropriate 
on list.
Next time, I'd kindly recommend you google your question.
Richard


On Apr 30, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Noe Villeda 
> wrote:

Hello listers,

I am having some sound card issues with a relatively new Windows 10 pc.

Is there a mailing for blindness related pc or sound issues?

I’d appreciate any information.

Noe



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Totally Off Topic, apology in advance

[Noe Villeda]

Hello listers,
 
I am having some sound card issues with a relatively new Windows 10 pc.
 
Is there a mailing for blindness related pc or sound issues?
 
I'd appreciate any information.
 
Noe
 
 

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RE: off topic

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Mary,

I am not saying this isn't so, I simply said that for the most part it takes 
two to tango but that there are always exceptions, I did not imply that your 
bad experience was partly your fault, but in some cases poor customer service 
can definitely be influenced by how somebody behaves towards whatever company 
they are dealing with.

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Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: off topic

Well, all I can say is that I had a series of representatives from Verizon tell 
me something and then not follow through. More than one. Not OK. It ended up 
costing me considerable money not to mention hassle. And it was all on their 
side, not mine. You may believe that or not as you wish.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 20, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> If you ask a dozen or two customers of all the various cellular service 
> providers you will always have some who had the worst service from any of 
> them and others who had the best service and that holds true for every store, 
> service provider or organisation you deal with. There are always exceptions 
> to the rule, but for the most part it does take two to tango and often when 
> somebody has terrible service somewhere they may not be entirely blameless.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Marie
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 8:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: off topic
> 
> That is strange because I have had excellent customer service from Verizon. 
> However I learned long ago not to deal with the stores but directly with 
> corporate service.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: off topic
> 
> I had the worst customer service from Verizon on numerous occasions from two 
> stores and they're over the phone folks. I will never go back to Verizon 
> unless they're the only company left standing.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Fred Olver <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Get verizon, they are the best
>> - Original Message - From: "Larry Smith" 
>> <larry.smith...@gmail.com>
>> To: "'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 12:41 PM
>> Subject: off topic
>> 
>> 
>> If there are any list members in the U.S. using T-Mobile as there 
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Re: off topic

[Mary Otten]

Well, all I can say is that I had a series of representatives from Verizon tell 
me something and then not follow through. More than one. Not OK. It ended up 
costing me considerable money not to mention hassle. And it was all on their 
side, not mine. You may believe that or not as you wish.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 20, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> If you ask a dozen or two customers of all the various cellular service 
> providers you will always have some who had the worst service from any of 
> them and others who had the best service and that holds true for every store, 
> service provider or organisation you deal with. There are always exceptions 
> to the rule, but for the most part it does take two to tango and often when 
> somebody has terrible service somewhere they may not be entirely blameless.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marie
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 8:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: off topic
> 
> That is strange because I have had excellent customer service from Verizon. 
> However I learned long ago not to deal with the stores but directly with 
> corporate service.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: off topic
> 
> I had the worst customer service from Verizon on numerous occasions from two 
> stores and they're over the phone folks. I will never go back to Verizon 
> unless they're the only company left standing.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Fred Olver <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Get verizon, they are the best
>> - Original Message - From: "Larry Smith" 
>> <larry.smith...@gmail.com>
>> To: "'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 12:41 PM
>> Subject: off topic
>> 
>> 
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RE: off topic

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you ask a dozen or two customers of all the various cellular service 
providers you will always have some who had the worst service from any of them 
and others who had the best service and that holds true for every store, 
service provider or organisation you deal with. There are always exceptions to 
the rule, but for the most part it does take two to tango and often when 
somebody has terrible service somewhere they may not be entirely blameless.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: off topic

That is strange because I have had excellent customer service from Verizon. 
However I learned long ago not to deal with the stores but directly with 
corporate service.

-Original Message-
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: off topic

I had the worst customer service from Verizon on numerous occasions from two 
stores and they're over the phone folks. I will never go back to Verizon unless 
they're the only company left standing.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 20, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Fred Olver <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote:
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> Get verizon, they are the best
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Re: off topic

[Kelly Pierce]

Larry,

I’m on a prepaid reseller of T-Mobile service and love the low prices
and connectivity in Chicago where I live.  T-Mobile actually has
coverage deep in the subway tunnels like the expensive carriers.  By
the end of the year, T-Mobile will have as much coverage as Verizon
and more than AT, if you have a phone that supports band 12.

Verizon has great coverage, but customers pay a premium for this
reach.  Most people don’t need that reach in lightly populated areas.

I will e-mail you privately with my iPhone number and you can hear the
call quality yourself.

Kelly




On 2/20/17, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> That is strange because I have had excellent customer service from Verizon.
>
> However I learned long ago not to deal with the stores but directly with
> corporate service.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: off topic
>
> I had the worst customer service from Verizon on numerous occasions from two
>
> stores and they're over the phone folks. I will never go back to Verizon
> unless they're the only company left standing.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Fred Olver <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>> Get verizon, they are the best
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Re: off topic

[Marie]

That is strange because I have had excellent customer service from Verizon. 
However I learned long ago not to deal with the stores but directly with 
corporate service.


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: off topic

I had the worst customer service from Verizon on numerous occasions from two 
stores and they're over the phone folks. I will never go back to Verizon 
unless they're the only company left standing.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 20, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Fred Olver <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote:

Get verizon, they are the best
- Original Message - From: "Larry Smith" 
<larry.smith...@gmail.com>

To: "'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 12:41 PM
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Re: off topic

[Anthony Vece]

I was asked not to come back to my local Verizon store.
So, I do everything on line.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On Feb 19, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I had the worst customer service from Verizon on numerous occasions from two 
> stores and they're over the phone folks. I will never go back to Verizon 
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> Mary
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Fred Olver <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Get verizon, they are the best
>> - Original Message - From: "Larry Smith" <larry.smith...@gmail.com>
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Re: off topic

[Mary Otten]

 I had the worst customer service from Verizon on numerous occasions from two 
stores and they're over the phone folks. I will never go back to Verizon unless 
they're the only company left standing.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: off topic

[Anthony Vece]

I agree!


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

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> Get verizon, they are the best
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Re: off topic

[Anthony Vece]

My iPhone is on Verizon. Would I be able to subscribe to total wireless? Thanks


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On Feb 19, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MamaPeach <mamape...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Total Wireless, which uses Verizon towers, is great. You have to get one of 
> the total wireless phones from either the total wireless website or from 
> Walmart, but the plans are unlimited talk and text for $25 every 30 days or 
> $35 for unlimited talk, text and 5 gigs of data every 30 days.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Fred Olver
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 3:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: off topic
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> Get verizon, they are the best
> - Original Message - From: "Larry Smith" <larry.smith...@gmail.com>
> To: "'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
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Re: off topic

[MamaPeach]

Total Wireless, which uses Verizon towers, is great. You have to get one of 
the total wireless phones from either the total wireless website or from 
Walmart, but the plans are unlimited talk and text for $25 every 30 days or 
$35 for unlimited talk, text and 5 gigs of data every 30 days.


-Original Message- 
From: Fred Olver

Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: off topic

Get verizon, they are the best
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From: "Larry Smith" <larry.smith...@gmail.com>

To: "'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 12:41 PM
Subject: off topic


If there are any list members in the U.S. using T-Mobile as there carrier,
please email me off list and tell me your what you think of their coverage,
call quality, etc. I am currently with at I like the service, but can no
longer stand their prices. Thanks

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