RE: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Ed,
I can see your point.  I am not sure that a 14 braille cell display would be of 
much use with a computer.  It is simply too small.  I need at least 40 cells 
display to enjoy using with a computer.
A 14 cell braille display however,  is small and easily portable.  That makes 
it an ideal companion for a smart phone to be used on the go.

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 5:09 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

Hello Chris,

I have both the Focus Blue 14 and now the Brilliant 14. I am not a big fan of 
the Focus 14 as I feel that the device has way to many buttons. Those buttons 
are useful for what they are there for with the use of Jaws. I feel that the 
Brailliant 14 is much better suited for use with the iOS platform. It was built 
with that in mind after all.

Ed


On Apr 22, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

How does the Brailliant BI 14 compare to the focus 14 in terms of 
functionality?  It will be nice if anyone who has seen both to tell me a little 
about that.  Certainly the Brailliant BI 14 is less expensive, and this is a 
big plus.

Regards,

Cris

Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

Hi Mary and Chris

If it’s any help, I ordered and have received a Brailliant BI14, and am pleased 
with what I saw. I like the size and weight of it - it makes it very portable 
(much more so than other displays out there). I also really like the 
stand-alone note taking feature on it - it just means you can get it out and 
make notes really quickly/easily and then link those notes to your apple 
devices when you have time/if you want to. Also, obviously, I like the fact it 
will act as both a display and keyboard for my IPhone and IPad. There are a 
couple of things I’d like to see improved, and I hope HumanWare will take them 
on board.

Eleanor
Sent from my iPad

On 20 Apr 2018, at 04:00, Mary Otten 
<motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Chris,
No, I don’t have a demo. I have just heard demos. For the price, it’s a great 
thing. But it wouldn’t be something I would want. The only reason I would even 
consider this new 14 sell display is for the notetaking capability. I’m really 
not thrilled with only 14 S. But the notetaking capabilities.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Mary,
I have not heard the sound of the orbit refresh sound.  I am very curious.  
What I did not like about the orbit from the description is the weight, and 
that it has no cursor routing keys.  But I am curious to hear the refresh 
sound.  Do you have a demo?

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter:http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:13 PM
To:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

Hi Chris,
Well, those displays like the orbit 20 that are available for less than $500, 
have compromises. Have you listened to demonstration of that thing? The sound 
of the line refreshing would drive me crazy. It’s great that it exists, but 
it’s not something I want. And I’m glad I have the choice.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Mary,
It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly software 
features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have a 
feel of the device.

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy

From:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent:Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the functionality 
of devices costing double or more? It does not have the capabilities you 
wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello folks,
I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to u

Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Chris,

I have both the Focus Blue 14 and now the Brilliant 14. I am not a big fan of 
the Focus 14 as I feel that the device has way to many buttons. Those buttons 
are useful for what they are there for with the use of Jaws. I feel that the 
Brailliant 14 is much better suited for use with the iOS platform. It was built 
with that in mind after all.

Ed

> On Apr 22, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How does the Brailliant BI 14 compare to the focus 14 in terms of 
> functionality?  It will be nice if anyone who has seen both to tell me a 
> little about that.  Certainly the Brailliant BI 14 is less expensive, and 
> this is a big plus.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy 
> <http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy>
>  
>   <>
> From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 2:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>  
> Hi Mary and Chris 
>  
> If it’s any help, I ordered and have received a Brailliant BI14, and am 
> pleased with what I saw. I like the size and weight of it - it makes it very 
> portable (much more so than other displays out there). I also really like the 
> stand-alone note taking feature on it - it just means you can get it out and 
> make notes really quickly/easily and then link those notes to your apple 
> devices when you have time/if you want to. Also, obviously, I like the fact 
> it will act as both a display and keyboard for my IPhone and IPad. There are 
> a couple of things I’d like to see improved, and I hope HumanWare will take 
> them on board. 
>  
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 20 Apr 2018, at 04:00, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> No, I don’t have a demo. I have just heard demos. For the price, it’s a great 
> thing. But it wouldn’t be something I would want. The only reason I would 
> even consider this new 14 sell display is for the notetaking capability. I’m 
> really not thrilled with only 14 S. But the notetaking capabilities.
> Mary
> 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> I have not heard the sound of the orbit refresh sound.  I am very curious.  
> What I did not like about the orbit from the description is the weight, and 
> that it has no cursor routing keys.  But I am curious to hear the refresh 
> sound.  Do you have a demo?
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter:http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy 
> <http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy>
>  
>  
> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:13 PM
> To:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>  
> Hi Chris,
> Well, those displays like the orbit 20 that are available for less than $500, 
> have compromises. Have you listened to demonstration of that thing? The sound 
> of the line refreshing would drive me crazy. It’s great that it exists, but 
> it’s not something I want. And I’m glad I have the choice.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
> than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly 
> software features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
> I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have 
> a feel of the device.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy 
> <http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy> 
>  
> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent:Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
> To:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>  
> No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the 
> functionality of devices costing double or more? It does not have the 
> capabilities you wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:filasti..

RE: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Mary.
Once I make my decision, I will likely go for the brilliant BI 14.  In the past 
I bought a pac mate 40 and frankly it was a bad investment.  However, I still 
like to know the differences between the two.

Regards,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

If you use jaws, then the focus is a good thing, because it has a lot of jaws 
functionality that the BI 14 doesn’t have. If you don’t use jaws, then of 
course that’s not a big deal. Since I have not seen either of these devices in 
person, I can’t comment on the ergonomics, how quiet they are, etc.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 22, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
How does the Brailliant BI 14 compare to the focus 14 in terms of 
functionality?  It will be nice if anyone who has seen both to tell me a little 
about that.  Certainly the Brailliant BI 14 is less expensive, and this is a 
big plus.

Regards,

Cris

Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

Hi Mary and Chris

If it’s any help, I ordered and have received a Brailliant BI14, and am pleased 
with what I saw. I like the size and weight of it - it makes it very portable 
(much more so than other displays out there). I also really like the 
stand-alone note taking feature on it - it just means you can get it out and 
make notes really quickly/easily and then link those notes to your apple 
devices when you have time/if you want to. Also, obviously, I like the fact it 
will act as both a display and keyboard for my IPhone and IPad. There are a 
couple of things I’d like to see improved, and I hope HumanWare will take them 
on board.

Eleanor
Sent from my iPad

On 20 Apr 2018, at 04:00, Mary Otten 
<motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Chris,
No, I don’t have a demo. I have just heard demos. For the price, it’s a great 
thing. But it wouldn’t be something I would want. The only reason I would even 
consider this new 14 sell display is for the notetaking capability. I’m really 
not thrilled with only 14 S. But the notetaking capabilities.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Mary,
I have not heard the sound of the orbit refresh sound.  I am very curious.  
What I did not like about the orbit from the description is the weight, and 
that it has no cursor routing keys.  But I am curious to hear the refresh 
sound.  Do you have a demo?

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

Hi Chris,
Well, those displays like the orbit 20 that are available for less than $500, 
have compromises. Have you listened to demonstration of that thing? The sound 
of the line refreshing would drive me crazy. It’s great that it exists, but 
it’s not something I want. And I’m glad I have the choice.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Mary,
It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly software 
features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have a 
feel of the device.

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the functionality 
of devices costing double or more? It does not have the capabilities you 
wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello folks,
I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to use with my iPhone 
and iPad.  From the description it sounds like a nice neat device. However, I 
like to know if it can be used as a stand-alone device, not merely a display.  
The Human ware descrip

Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Mary Otten]

If you use jaws, then the focus is a good thing, because it has a lot of jaws 
functionality that the BI 14 doesn’t have. If you don’t use jaws, then of 
course that’s not a big deal. Since I have not seen either of these devices in 
person, I can’t comment on the ergonomics, how quiet they are, etc. 
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 22, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How does the Brailliant BI 14 compare to the focus 14 in terms of 
> functionality?  It will be nice if anyone who has seen both to tell me a 
> little about that.  Certainly the Brailliant BI 14 is less expensive, and 
> this is a big plus.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy
>  
>  
> From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 2:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>  
> Hi Mary and Chris 
>  
> If it’s any help, I ordered and have received a Brailliant BI14, and am 
> pleased with what I saw. I like the size and weight of it - it makes it very 
> portable (much more so than other displays out there). I also really like the 
> stand-alone note taking feature on it - it just means you can get it out and 
> make notes really quickly/easily and then link those notes to your apple 
> devices when you have time/if you want to. Also, obviously, I like the fact 
> it will act as both a display and keyboard for my IPhone and IPad. There are 
> a couple of things I’d like to see improved, and I hope HumanWare will take 
> them on board. 
>  
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 20 Apr 2018, at 04:00, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> No, I don’t have a demo. I have just heard demos. For the price, it’s a great 
> thing. But it wouldn’t be something I would want. The only reason I would 
> even consider this new 14 sell display is for the notetaking capability. I’m 
> really not thrilled with only 14 S. But the notetaking capabilities.
> Mary
> 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> I have not heard the sound of the orbit refresh sound.  I am very curious.  
> What I did not like about the orbit from the description is the weight, and 
> that it has no cursor routing keys.  But I am curious to hear the refresh 
> sound.  Do you have a demo?
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>  
> Hi Chris,
> Well, those displays like the orbit 20 that are available for less than $500, 
> have compromises. Have you listened to demonstration of that thing? The sound 
> of the line refreshing would drive me crazy. It’s great that it exists, but 
> it’s not something I want. And I’m glad I have the choice.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
> than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly 
> software features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
> I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have 
> a feel of the device.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>  
> No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the 
> functionality of devices costing double or more? It does not have the 
> capabilities you wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to use with my 
> iPhone and iPad.  From the description it sounds like a nice neat device. 
> However, I like to know if it can be used as a stand-alone device, not merely 
> a display.  The Human ware description states that it can be used as a 
> stand-alone device, but it does not say much on what it can do in this mode 
> other than taking notes and having a timer and a stop watch.  That is not 
> that attractive.  I like to know what else it can do in the stand 

RE: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Cris Ali]

How does the Brailliant BI 14 compare to the focus 14 in terms of 
functionality?  It will be nice if anyone who has seen both to tell me a little 
about that.  Certainly the Brailliant BI 14 is less expensive, and this is a 
big plus.

Regards,

Cris

Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

Hi Mary and Chris

If it’s any help, I ordered and have received a Brailliant BI14, and am pleased 
with what I saw. I like the size and weight of it - it makes it very portable 
(much more so than other displays out there). I also really like the 
stand-alone note taking feature on it - it just means you can get it out and 
make notes really quickly/easily and then link those notes to your apple 
devices when you have time/if you want to. Also, obviously, I like the fact it 
will act as both a display and keyboard for my IPhone and IPad. There are a 
couple of things I’d like to see improved, and I hope HumanWare will take them 
on board.

Eleanor
Sent from my iPad

On 20 Apr 2018, at 04:00, Mary Otten 
<motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Chris,
No, I don’t have a demo. I have just heard demos. For the price, it’s a great 
thing. But it wouldn’t be something I would want. The only reason I would even 
consider this new 14 sell display is for the notetaking capability. I’m really 
not thrilled with only 14 S. But the notetaking capabilities.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Mary,
I have not heard the sound of the orbit refresh sound.  I am very curious.  
What I did not like about the orbit from the description is the weight, and 
that it has no cursor routing keys.  But I am curious to hear the refresh 
sound.  Do you have a demo?

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

Hi Chris,
Well, those displays like the orbit 20 that are available for less than $500, 
have compromises. Have you listened to demonstration of that thing? The sound 
of the line refreshing would drive me crazy. It’s great that it exists, but 
it’s not something I want. And I’m glad I have the choice.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Mary,
It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly software 
features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have a 
feel of the device.

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the functionality 
of devices costing double or more? It does not have the capabilities you 
wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello folks,
I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to use with my iPhone 
and iPad.  From the description it sounds like a nice neat device. However, I 
like to know if it can be used as a stand-alone device, not merely a display.  
The Human ware description states that it can be used as a stand-alone device, 
but it does not say much on what it can do in this mode other than taking notes 
and having a timer and a stop watch.  That is not that attractive.  I like to 
know what else it can do in the stand alone mode.  Does it have a calculator? 
Does it have a microphone and recording capabilities?  Does it have an audio 
player?  Does it have a web browser and could it connect to the wi-fi?
If anyone can tell me more about it I will extremely appreciate it.

Regards,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@jerusalemBoy

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RE: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Eleanor,
If You do not mind, what are the few things you would like to see improved?  
This will give me some idea about this device, since I have never actually seen 
it.  I only read its description online.

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

Hi Mary and Chris

If it’s any help, I ordered and have received a Brailliant BI14, and am pleased 
with what I saw. I like the size and weight of it - it makes it very portable 
(much more so than other displays out there). I also really like the 
stand-alone note taking feature on it - it just means you can get it out and 
make notes really quickly/easily and then link those notes to your apple 
devices when you have time/if you want to. Also, obviously, I like the fact it 
will act as both a display and keyboard for my IPhone and IPad. There are a 
couple of things I’d like to see improved, and I hope HumanWare will take them 
on board.

Eleanor
Sent from my iPad

On 20 Apr 2018, at 04:00, Mary Otten 
<motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Chris,
No, I don’t have a demo. I have just heard demos. For the price, it’s a great 
thing. But it wouldn’t be something I would want. The only reason I would even 
consider this new 14 sell display is for the notetaking capability. I’m really 
not thrilled with only 14 S. But the notetaking capabilities.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Mary,
I have not heard the sound of the orbit refresh sound.  I am very curious.  
What I did not like about the orbit from the description is the weight, and 
that it has no cursor routing keys.  But I am curious to hear the refresh 
sound.  Do you have a demo?

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

Hi Chris,
Well, those displays like the orbit 20 that are available for less than $500, 
have compromises. Have you listened to demonstration of that thing? The sound 
of the line refreshing would drive me crazy. It’s great that it exists, but 
it’s not something I want. And I’m glad I have the choice.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Mary,
It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly software 
features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have a 
feel of the device.

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the functionality 
of devices costing double or more? It does not have the capabilities you 
wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello folks,
I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to use with my iPhone 
and iPad.  From the description it sounds like a nice neat device. However, I 
like to know if it can be used as a stand-alone device, not merely a display.  
The Human ware description states that it can be used as a stand-alone device, 
but it does not say much on what it can do in this mode other than taking notes 
and having a timer and a stop watch.  That is not that attractive.  I like to 
know what else it can do in the stand alone mode.  Does it have a calculator? 
Does it have a microphone and recording capabilities?  Does it have an audio 
player?  Does it have a web browser and could it connect to the wi-fi?
If anyone can tell me more about it I will extremely appreciate it.

Regards,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@jerusalemBoy

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Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi Mary and Chris 

If it’s any help, I ordered and have received a Brailliant BI14, and am pleased 
with what I saw. I like the size and weight of it - it makes it very portable 
(much more so than other displays out there). I also really like the 
stand-alone note taking feature on it - it just means you can get it out and 
make notes really quickly/easily and then link those notes to your apple 
devices when you have time/if you want to. Also, obviously, I like the fact it 
will act as both a display and keyboard for my IPhone and IPad. There are a 
couple of things I’d like to see improved, and I hope HumanWare will take them 
on board. 

Eleanor 

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Apr 2018, at 04:00, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> No, I don’t have a demo. I have just heard demos. For the price, it’s a great 
> thing. But it wouldn’t be something I would want. The only reason I would 
> even consider this new 14 sell display is for the notetaking capability. I’m 
> really not thrilled with only 14 S. But the notetaking capabilities.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> I have not heard the sound of the orbit refresh sound.  I am very curious.  
>> What I did not like about the orbit from the description is the weight, and 
>> that it has no cursor routing keys.  But I am curious to hear the refresh 
>> sound.  Do you have a demo?
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Cris
>>  
>> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>>  
>> Hi Chris,
>> Well, those displays like the orbit 20 that are available for less than 
>> $500, have compromises. Have you listened to demonstration of that thing? 
>> The sound of the line refreshing would drive me crazy. It’s great that it 
>> exists, but it’s not something I want. And I’m glad I have the choice.
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
>> than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly 
>> software features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
>> I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have 
>> a feel of the device.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Cris
>>  
>> Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy 
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>>  
>> No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the 
>> functionality of devices costing double or more? It does not have the 
>> capabilities you wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello folks,
>> I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to use with my 
>> iPhone and iPad.  From the description it sounds like a nice neat device. 
>> However, I like to know if it can be used as a stand-alone device, not 
>> merely a display.  The Human ware description states that it can be used as 
>> a stand-alone device, but it does not say much on what it can do in this 
>> mode other than taking notes and having a timer and a stop watch.  That is 
>> not that attractive.  I like to know what else it can do in the stand alone 
>> mode.  Does it have a calculator? Does it have a microphone and recording 
>> capabilities?  Does it have an audio player?  Does it have a web browser and 
>> could it connect to the wi-fi?
>> If anyone can tell me more about it I will extremely appreciate it.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Cris
>>  
>> Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@jerusalemBoy
>>  
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Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chris,
No, I don’t have a demo. I have just heard demos. For the price, it’s a great 
thing. But it wouldn’t be something I would want. The only reason I would even 
consider this new 14 sell display is for the notetaking capability. I’m really 
not thrilled with only 14 S. But the notetaking capabilities.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> I have not heard the sound of the orbit refresh sound.  I am very curious.  
> What I did not like about the orbit from the description is the weight, and 
> that it has no cursor routing keys.  But I am curious to hear the refresh 
> sound.  Do you have a demo?
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>  
> Hi Chris,
> Well, those displays like the orbit 20 that are available for less than $500, 
> have compromises. Have you listened to demonstration of that thing? The sound 
> of the line refreshing would drive me crazy. It’s great that it exists, but 
> it’s not something I want. And I’m glad I have the choice.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
> than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly 
> software features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
> I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have 
> a feel of the device.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>  
> No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the 
> functionality of devices costing double or more? It does not have the 
> capabilities you wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to use with my 
> iPhone and iPad.  From the description it sounds like a nice neat device. 
> However, I like to know if it can be used as a stand-alone device, not merely 
> a display.  The Human ware description states that it can be used as a 
> stand-alone device, but it does not say much on what it can do in this mode 
> other than taking notes and having a timer and a stop watch.  That is not 
> that attractive.  I like to know what else it can do in the stand alone mode. 
>  Does it have a calculator? Does it have a microphone and recording 
> capabilities?  Does it have an audio player?  Does it have a web browser and 
> could it connect to the wi-fi?
> If anyone can tell me more about it I will extremely appreciate it.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@jerusalemBoy
>  
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RE: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Cris Ali]

Hello Mary,
I have not heard the sound of the orbit refresh sound.  I am very curious.  
What I did not like about the orbit from the description is the weight, and 
that it has no cursor routing keys.  But I am curious to hear the refresh 
sound.  Do you have a demo?

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

Hi Chris,
Well, those displays like the orbit 20 that are available for less than $500, 
have compromises. Have you listened to demonstration of that thing? The sound 
of the line refreshing would drive me crazy. It’s great that it exists, but 
it’s not something I want. And I’m glad I have the choice.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Mary,
It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly software 
features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have a 
feel of the device.

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the functionality 
of devices costing double or more? It does not have the capabilities you 
wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello folks,
I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to use with my iPhone 
and iPad.  From the description it sounds like a nice neat device. However, I 
like to know if it can be used as a stand-alone device, not merely a display.  
The Human ware description states that it can be used as a stand-alone device, 
but it does not say much on what it can do in this mode other than taking notes 
and having a timer and a stop watch.  That is not that attractive.  I like to 
know what else it can do in the stand alone mode.  Does it have a calculator? 
Does it have a microphone and recording capabilities?  Does it have an audio 
player?  Does it have a web browser and could it connect to the wi-fi?
If anyone can tell me more about it I will extremely appreciate it.

Regards,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@jerusalemBoy

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Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chris,
Well, those displays like the orbit 20 that are available for less than $500, 
have compromises. Have you listened to demonstration of that thing? The sound 
of the line refreshing would drive me crazy. It’s great that it exists, but 
it’s not something I want. And I’m glad I have the choice.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
> than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly 
> software features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
> I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have 
> a feel of the device.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display
>  
> No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the 
> functionality of devices costing double or more? It does not have the 
> capabilities you wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to use with my 
> iPhone and iPad.  From the description it sounds like a nice neat device. 
> However, I like to know if it can be used as a stand-alone device, not merely 
> a display.  The Human ware description states that it can be used as a 
> stand-alone device, but it does not say much on what it can do in this mode 
> other than taking notes and having a timer and a stop watch.  That is not 
> that attractive.  I like to know what else it can do in the stand alone mode. 
>  Does it have a calculator? Does it have a microphone and recording 
> capabilities?  Does it have an audio player?  Does it have a web browser and 
> could it connect to the wi-fi?
> If anyone can tell me more about it I will extremely appreciate it.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
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RE: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Cris Ali]

Hello Mary,
It is not much to expect.  Now with the talk about braille displays for less 
than five hundred dollars, It is not much to expect to add few mainly software 
features, other than the microphone and a speaker.
I will see if it is on display anywhere close to where I live and go to have a 
feel of the device.

Cheers,

Cris

Twitter:  http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the functionality 
of devices costing double or more? It does not have the capabilities you 
wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello folks,
I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to use with my iPhone 
and iPad.  From the description it sounds like a nice neat device. However, I 
like to know if it can be used as a stand-alone device, not merely a display.  
The Human ware description states that it can be used as a stand-alone device, 
but it does not say much on what it can do in this mode other than taking notes 
and having a timer and a stop watch.  That is not that attractive.  I like to 
know what else it can do in the stand alone mode.  Does it have a calculator? 
Does it have a microphone and recording capabilities?  Does it have an audio 
player?  Does it have a web browser and could it connect to the wi-fi?
If anyone can tell me more about it I will extremely appreciate it.

Regards,

Cris

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Re: Brailliant BI 14 display

[Mary Otten]

No. For just under $1000, you were expecting it to duplicate the functionality 
of devices costing double or more? It does not have the capabilities you 
wanted. If you want that, be prepared to pay many thousands.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> I am thinking of ordering a brailliant BI Braille display to use with my 
> iPhone and iPad.  From the description it sounds like a nice neat device. 
> However, I like to know if it can be used as a stand-alone device, not merely 
> a display.  The Human ware description states that it can be used as a 
> stand-alone device, but it does not say much on what it can do in this mode 
> other than taking notes and having a timer and a stop watch.  That is not 
> that attractive.  I like to know what else it can do in the stand alone mode. 
>  Does it have a calculator? Does it have a microphone and recording 
> capabilities?  Does it have an audio player?  Does it have a web browser and 
> could it connect to the wi-fi?
> If anyone can tell me more about it I will extremely appreciate it.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

I believe I have 5 devices connected. It knows which device is calling for it’s 
attecnsion . This is amazing to me.

Ed

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 11:47 PM, <denise.av...@gmail.com> 
> <denise.av...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How many devices can be connected to the Brailliant BI 14?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Brailliant BI 14
> 
> Is brailliant BI 14 a six dots, or eight dots braille cells?
> Regards,
> Cris
> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy
>   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:15 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> I am a HumanWare Rep, in Montana. I have not heard of any such battery 
> issues. As far as I can tell you  there is not any battery issues with the 
> units. The devices are selling faster than HumanWare thought they would. I do 
> think there is a little wait for the units, but it’s not bad.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB 
>> stick or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not 
>> going to read an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American 
>> novel. I’m waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. 
>> I guess this battery thing must’ve slowed them down.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary 
>>> 
>>> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch 
>>> with 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own 
>>> internal notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and 
>>> wherever you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes 
>>> to your I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then 
>>> it just becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t 
>>> attach anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide 
>>> external storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it 
>>> is to be able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry 
>>> a lot of large equipment around with you. 
>>> 
>>> Eleanor 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
>>>> some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete 
>>>> notes that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage 
>>>> capacity if it has any, and how much?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
>>>>> phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard 
>>>>> storage capacity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" <motte...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
>>>>> Subject: Brailliant BI 14
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
>>>>> finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to 
>>>>> fame is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app 
>>>>> that’s available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the 
>>>>> notetaking capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you 
>>>>> access the things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, 
>>>>> deleting them etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interestin

RE: Brailliant BI 14

[denise.avant]

How many devices can be connected to the Brailliant BI 14?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Brailliant BI 14

Is brailliant BI 14 a six dots, or eight dots braille cells?
Regards,
Cris
Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:15 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14

Hello Mary,

I am a HumanWare Rep, in Montana. I have not heard of any such battery issues. 
As far as I can tell you  there is not any battery issues with the units. The 
devices are selling faster than HumanWare thought they would. I do think there 
is a little wait for the units, but it’s not bad.

Thanks,

Ed

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB 
> stick or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not going 
> to read an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American novel. 
> I’m waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. I guess 
> this battery thing must’ve slowed them down.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary 
>> 
>> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch with 
>> 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own internal 
>> notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and wherever 
>> you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes to your 
>> I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then it just 
>> becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t attach 
>> anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide external 
>> storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it is to be 
>> able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry a lot of 
>> large equipment around with you. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
>>> some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete notes 
>>> that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage capacity if 
>>> it has any, and how much?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
>>>> phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard 
>>>> storage capacity.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" <motte...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
>>>> Subject: Brailliant BI 14
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
>>>> finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame 
>>>> is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s 
>>>> available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking 
>>>> capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you access the 
>>>> things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them 
>>>> etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just 
>>>> slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting if it really 
>>>> could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with 
>>>> only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

It is 8 cells.


> On Apr 15, 2018, at 3:29 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is brailliant BI 14 a six dots, or eight dots braille cells?
> Regards,
> Cris
> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy
>   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:15 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> I am a HumanWare Rep, in Montana. I have not heard of any such battery 
> issues. As far as I can tell you  there is not any battery issues with the 
> units. The devices are selling faster than HumanWare thought they would. I do 
> think there is a little wait for the units, but it’s not bad.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB 
>> stick or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not 
>> going to read an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American 
>> novel. I’m waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. 
>> I guess this battery thing must’ve slowed them down.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary 
>>> 
>>> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch 
>>> with 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own 
>>> internal notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and 
>>> wherever you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes 
>>> to your I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then 
>>> it just becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t 
>>> attach anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide 
>>> external storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it 
>>> is to be able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry 
>>> a lot of large equipment around with you. 
>>> 
>>> Eleanor 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
>>>> some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete 
>>>> notes that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage 
>>>> capacity if it has any, and how much?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
>>>>> phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard 
>>>>> storage capacity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" <motte...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
>>>>> Subject: Brailliant BI 14
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
>>>>> finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to 
>>>>> fame is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app 
>>>>> that’s available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the 
>>>>> notetaking capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you 
>>>>> access the things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, 
>>>>> deleting them etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. 
>>>>> But for just slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting 
>>>>> if it really could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not 
>>>>> thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>

RE: Brailliant BI 14

[Cris Ali]

Is brailliant BI 14 a six dots, or eight dots braille cells?
Regards,
Cris
Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:15 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14

Hello Mary,

I am a HumanWare Rep, in Montana. I have not heard of any such battery issues. 
As far as I can tell you  there is not any battery issues with the units. The 
devices are selling faster than HumanWare thought they would. I do think there 
is a little wait for the units, but it’s not bad.

Thanks,

Ed

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB 
> stick or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not going 
> to read an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American novel. 
> I’m waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. I guess 
> this battery thing must’ve slowed them down.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary 
>> 
>> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch with 
>> 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own internal 
>> notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and wherever 
>> you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes to your 
>> I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then it just 
>> becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t attach 
>> anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide external 
>> storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it is to be 
>> able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry a lot of 
>> large equipment around with you. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
>>> some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete notes 
>>> that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage capacity if 
>>> it has any, and how much?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
>>>> phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard 
>>>> storage capacity.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" <motte...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
>>>> Subject: Brailliant BI 14
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
>>>> finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame 
>>>> is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s 
>>>> available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking 
>>>> capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you access the 
>>>> things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them 
>>>> etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just 
>>>> slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting if it really 
>>>> could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with 
>>>> only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Mary,

I am a HumanWare Rep, in Montana. I have not heard of any such battery issues. 
As far as I can tell you  there is not any battery issues with the units. The 
devices are selling faster than HumanWare thought they would. I do think there 
is a little wait for the units, but it’s not bad.

Thanks,

Ed

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB 
> stick or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not going 
> to read an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American novel. 
> I’m waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. I guess 
> this battery thing must’ve slowed them down.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary 
>> 
>> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch with 
>> 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own internal 
>> notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and wherever 
>> you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes to your 
>> I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then it just 
>> becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t attach 
>> anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide external 
>> storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it is to be 
>> able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry a lot of 
>> large equipment around with you. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
>>> some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete notes 
>>> that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage capacity if 
>>> it has any, and how much?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 
 Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
 phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard 
 storage capacity.
 
 Andy
 
 - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
 Subject: Brailliant BI 14
 
 
 I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
 finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame 
 is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s 
 available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking 
 capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you access the 
 things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them 
 etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just 
 slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting if it really 
 could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with 
 only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Mary Otten]

OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB stick 
or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not going to read 
an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American novel. I’m 
waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. I guess this 
battery thing must’ve slowed them down.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary 
> 
> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch with 
> 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own internal 
> notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and wherever 
> you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes to your 
> I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then it just 
> becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t attach 
> anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide external 
> storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it is to be 
> able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry a lot of 
> large equipment around with you. 
> 
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
>> some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete notes 
>> that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage capacity if 
>> it has any, and how much?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
>>> phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard storage 
>>> capacity.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
>>> Subject: Brailliant BI 14
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
>>> finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame 
>>> is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s 
>>> available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking 
>>> capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you access the things 
>>> you input using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them etc. If 
>>> it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just slightly 
>>> less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting if it really could act 
>>> as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with only 14 
>>> Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
>>> Mary
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi Mary 

Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch with 2 
settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own internal notes 
application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and wherever you like. 
You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes to your I-device and 
vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then it just becomes a Braille 
display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t attach anything like a memory 
stick to the Brailliant in order to provide external storage, but that’s not 
the point of the machine - the point of it is to be able to make notes really 
easily on the go without having to carry a lot of large equipment around with 
you. 

Eleanor 

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> On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
> some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete notes 
> that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage capacity if 
> it has any, and how much?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> 
>> Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart phone 
>> using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard storage 
>> capacity.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
>> Subject: Brailliant BI 14
>> 
>> 
>> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just finally 
>> been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame is that 
>> it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s available in 
>> the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking capability in 
>> the device is independent. That is. Can you access the things you input 
>> using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them etc. If it’s not, I 
>> don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just slightly less than $1000, 
>> I suppose it could be interesting if it really could act as an independent 
>> notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s 
>> hard to take that seriously.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Mary Otten]

>From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have some 
>onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete notes that 
>you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage capacity if it has 
>any, and how much?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart phone 
> using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard storage 
> capacity.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
> Subject: Brailliant BI 14
> 
> 
> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just finally 
> been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame is that it 
> instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s available in the 
> App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking capability in the 
> device is independent. That is. Can you access the things you input using the 
> device, manipulating the notes, deleting them etc. If it’s not, I don’t find 
> this terribly interesting. But for just slightly less than $1000, I suppose 
> it could be interesting if it really could act as an independent notetaking 
> device. I’m also not thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take 
> that seriously.
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Andy Baracco]

Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart phone 
using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard storage 
capacity.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
Subject: Brailliant BI 14


I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just finally 
been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame is that 
it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s available in 
the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking capability in 
the device is independent. That is. Can you access the things you input 
using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them etc. If it’s not, I 
don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just slightly less than $1000, 
I suppose it could be interesting if it really could act as an independent 
notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s 
hard to take that seriously.

Mary


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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Only time will tell. I think that HumanWare is looking at the Brailliant BI 14 
being the only display for now with the sync feature, as it’s so portable. It 
is a great start to slightly more affordable braille displays.

Thanks,

Ed

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 1:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I also have the 32. I really like the ergonomics of it. But I would like 
> something that would let me take some notes. I certainly don’t want a 
> full-fledged blindness oriented note taker. But the ability to take notes or 
> have a list that I take to the store would be good. I was kind of hoping that 
> humanware would refresh their whole line with notetaking capability, kind of 
> like when I think freedom scientific is doing. But I guess that’s not 
> happening.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Maria Reyes  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi, 
>> I  have the Brailliant BI 32, but it's not an independent notetaker. 
>> Obviously since it has 32 cells it is a very big device. It's not as 
>> portable as my Refreshabraille 18 used to be. 
>> 
>> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:21 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ed 
>>> 
>>> I completely agree with all your points. 
>>> 
>>> The biggest improvement I’d like to see would be the ability to unlock/wake 
>>> your IOS device from the Brailliant, rather than it always having to be the 
>>> other way round - that got really frustrating!! 
>>> 
>>> On a slightly different point, but still one related to Braille 
>>> notetakers/displays. I’m currently writing a document in KeyWord on my 
>>> BrailleNote Touch, and I desperately need to put some page breaks in/force 
>>> the document to start a new page. I can’t work out for the life of me how 
>>> to do it. So if anyone knows would be much appreciated. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> 
>>> Eleanor
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 18:51, Ed Worrell >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 The Brailliant 14 is amazing. The connectivity is great. I did have an 
 issue getting it to connect in the beginning, but I think that was an iOS 
 issue. I restarted my phone and it finally was seen by the iPhone and 
 connected. I have not had any issues sense. The device is light in weight, 
 and the case is made of really nice feeling leather. 
 
 *Disclaimer: I am the HumanWare rep in Montana*
 
 Ed Worrell
 Co-Founder/CEO - OverHere Consulting LLP
 “Bringing Technology into Sight”
 www.overhereconsulting.net 
 406-992-0028
 
 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
> finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to 
> fame is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app 
> that’s available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the 
> notetaking capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you 
> access the things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, 
> deleting them etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. 
> But for just slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting 
> if it really could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not 
> thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Mary Otten]

I also have the 32. I really like the ergonomics of it. But I would like 
something that would let me take some notes. I certainly don’t want a 
full-fledged blindness oriented note taker. But the ability to take notes or 
have a list that I take to the store would be good. I was kind of hoping that 
humanware would refresh their whole line with notetaking capability, kind of 
like when I think freedom scientific is doing. But I guess that’s not happening.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I  have the Brailliant BI 32, but it's not an independent notetaker. 
> Obviously since it has 32 cells it is a very big device. It's not as portable 
> as my Refreshabraille 18 used to be. 
> 
> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:21 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ed 
>> 
>> I completely agree with all your points. 
>> 
>> The biggest improvement I’d like to see would be the ability to unlock/wake 
>> your IOS device from the Brailliant, rather than it always having to be the 
>> other way round - that got really frustrating!! 
>> 
>> On a slightly different point, but still one related to Braille 
>> notetakers/displays. I’m currently writing a document in KeyWord on my 
>> BrailleNote Touch, and I desperately need to put some page breaks in/force 
>> the document to start a new page. I can’t work out for the life of me how to 
>> do it. So if anyone knows would be much appreciated. 
>> 
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> Eleanor
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 18:51, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> The Brailliant 14 is amazing. The connectivity is great. I did have an 
>>> issue getting it to connect in the beginning, but I think that was an iOS 
>>> issue. I restarted my phone and it finally was seen by the iPhone and 
>>> connected. I have not had any issues sense. The device is light in weight, 
>>> and the case is made of really nice feeling leather. 
>>> 
>>> *Disclaimer: I am the HumanWare rep in Montana*
>>> 
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> Co-Founder/CEO - OverHere Consulting LLP
>>> “Bringing Technology into Sight”
>>> www.overhereconsulting.net
>>> 406-992-0028
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
 finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame 
 is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s 
 available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking 
 capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you access the 
 things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them 
 etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just 
 slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting if it really 
 could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with 
 only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
 Mary
 
 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, 
I  have the Brailliant BI 32, but it's not an independent notetaker. Obviously 
since it has 32 cells it is a very big device. It's not as portable as my 
Refreshabraille 18 used to be. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:21 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed 
> 
> I completely agree with all your points. 
> 
> The biggest improvement I’d like to see would be the ability to unlock/wake 
> your IOS device from the Brailliant, rather than it always having to be the 
> other way round - that got really frustrating!! 
> 
> On a slightly different point, but still one related to Braille 
> notetakers/displays. I’m currently writing a document in KeyWord on my 
> BrailleNote Touch, and I desperately need to put some page breaks in/force 
> the document to start a new page. I can’t work out for the life of me how to 
> do it. So if anyone knows would be much appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Eleanor
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 18:51, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> The Brailliant 14 is amazing. The connectivity is great. I did have an issue 
>> getting it to connect in the beginning, but I think that was an iOS issue. I 
>> restarted my phone and it finally was seen by the iPhone and connected. I 
>> have not had any issues sense. The device is light in weight, and the case 
>> is made of really nice feeling leather. 
>> 
>> *Disclaimer: I am the HumanWare rep in Montana*
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>> Co-Founder/CEO - OverHere Consulting LLP
>> “Bringing Technology into Sight”
>> www.overhereconsulting.net
>> 406-992-0028
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
>>> finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame 
>>> is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s 
>>> available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking 
>>> capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you access the things 
>>> you input using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them etc. If 
>>> it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just slightly 
>>> less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting if it really could act 
>>> as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with only 14 
>>> Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi Ed 

I completely agree with all your points. 

The biggest improvement I’d like to see would be the ability to unlock/wake 
your IOS device from the Brailliant, rather than it always having to be the 
other way round - that got really frustrating!! 

On a slightly different point, but still one related to Braille 
notetakers/displays. I’m currently writing a document in KeyWord on my 
BrailleNote Touch, and I desperately need to put some page breaks in/force the 
document to start a new page. I can’t work out for the life of me how to do it. 
So if anyone knows would be much appreciated. 

Thanks. 

Eleanor

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> On 13 Apr 2018, at 18:51, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The Brailliant 14 is amazing. The connectivity is great. I did have an issue 
> getting it to connect in the beginning, but I think that was an iOS issue. I 
> restarted my phone and it finally was seen by the iPhone and connected. I 
> have not had any issues sense. The device is light in weight, and the case is 
> made of really nice feeling leather. 
> 
> *Disclaimer: I am the HumanWare rep in Montana*
> 
> Ed Worrell
> Co-Founder/CEO - OverHere Consulting LLP
> “Bringing Technology into Sight”
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> 
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just finally 
>> been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame is that 
>> it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s available in 
>> the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking capability in 
>> the device is independent. That is. Can you access the things you input 
>> using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them etc. If it’s not, I 
>> don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just slightly less than $1000, 
>> I suppose it could be interesting if it really could act as an independent 
>> notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s 
>> hard to take that seriously.
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

The Brailliant 14 is amazing. The connectivity is great. I did have an issue 
getting it to connect in the beginning, but I think that was an iOS issue. I 
restarted my phone and it finally was seen by the iPhone and connected. I have 
not had any issues sense. The device is light in weight, and the case is made 
of really nice feeling leather. 

*Disclaimer: I am the HumanWare rep in Montana*

Ed Worrell
Co-Founder/CEO - OverHere Consulting LLP
“Bringing Technology into Sight”
www.overhereconsulting.net 
406-992-0028


> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just finally 
> been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame is that it 
> instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s available in the 
> App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking capability in the 
> device is independent. That is. Can you access the things you input using the 
> device, manipulating the notes, deleting them etc. If it’s not, I don’t find 
> this terribly interesting. But for just slightly less than $1000, I suppose 
> it could be interesting if it really could act as an independent notetaking 
> device. I’m also not thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take 
> that seriously.
> Mary
> 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Mary Otten]

Oh wow! Sorry to hear about the battery problem. I’m also curious to know what 
the improvements are that you would like to see. I’m really glad it can be used 
independently to access whatever you put in there. I wouldn’t see writing an 
essay on it either. 14 sell display just wouldn’t lend itself to reading an 
essay for one thing. But I could see it for meeting notes and shopping list 
etc. Just I wish it had maybe 20 sales. I would pay a bit more for a few more 
cells. Oh well.
Mary


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> On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:37 AM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary 
> 
> Yes, I’ve seen and have purchased a Brailliant BI 14. It arrived a couple of 
> weeks ago, and I’ve been getting on well with it. It can either act as a 
> Braille display and keyboard for your I-device, or it can act as a totally 
> independent note taker. 
> 
> Where interacting with an I-device is concerned, it seems to work very well 
> and does everything you’d expect it to. I do have a couple of criticisms of 
> it, but they are more like things that HumanWare could do to further improve 
> the device as opposed to actual criticisms, and I’ll certainly be feeding 
> those back. 
> 
> From the point of view of the independent notetaker, yes, it works, and yes, 
> you can delete notes etc. You can also then sync your notes to your I-devices 
> if/when you want to. Not sure I’d go writing an essay on it, but in terms of 
> ease, portability, and use on the go then yes, it seems good. 
> 
> I was meant to be having a day’s training on it, but that’s been postponed 
> for now as the units have been recalled (something to do with the battery). 
> So hopefully once that’s happened I’ll know more about it. 
> 
> Eleanor
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 17:26, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just finally 
>> been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame is that 
>> it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s available in 
>> the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking capability in 
>> the device is independent. That is. Can you access the things you input 
>> using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them etc. If it’s not, I 
>> don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just slightly less than $1000, 
>> I suppose it could be interesting if it really could act as an independent 
>> notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s 
>> hard to take that seriously.
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi Mary 

Yes, I’ve seen and have purchased a Brailliant BI 14. It arrived a couple of 
weeks ago, and I’ve been getting on well with it. It can either act as a 
Braille display and keyboard for your I-device, or it can act as a totally 
independent note taker. 

Where interacting with an I-device is concerned, it seems to work very well and 
does everything you’d expect it to. I do have a couple of criticisms of it, but 
they are more like things that HumanWare could do to further improve the device 
as opposed to actual criticisms, and I’ll certainly be feeding those back. 

>From the point of view of the independent notetaker, yes, it works, and yes, 
>you can delete notes etc. You can also then sync your notes to your I-devices 
>if/when you want to. Not sure I’d go writing an essay on it, but in terms of 
>ease, portability, and use on the go then yes, it seems good. 

I was meant to be having a day’s training on it, but that’s been postponed for 
now as the units have been recalled (something to do with the battery). So 
hopefully once that’s happened I’ll know more about it. 

Eleanor

Sent from my iPad

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 17:26, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just finally 
> been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame is that it 
> instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s available in the 
> App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking capability in the 
> device is independent. That is. Can you access the things you input using the 
> device, manipulating the notes, deleting them etc. If it’s not, I don’t find 
> this terribly interesting. But for just slightly less than $1000, I suppose 
> it could be interesting if it really could act as an independent notetaking 
> device. I’m also not thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take 
> that seriously.
> Mary
> 
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