huh, I am still using the old voiceover voice as far as I can tell.
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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:56 AM
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Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
Actually, I like the new Voiceover features, including
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Subject: RE: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
I personally don't have a problem with what Apple is doing, but I'm going
to
play devil's advocate. I think Apple shouldn't include accessibility as a
standard
not like it.
- Original Message - From: Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net
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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
I personally don't have a problem with what Apple is doing, but I'm
going to
play
: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:02 PM
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If I remember correctly, the old IPod touch you did have to set up
accessibility with ITunes. Call me lazy but I like that apple devices
already come with accessibility, but I
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If I remember correctly, the old IPod touch you did have to set up
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If I remember correctly, the old IPod touch you did have to set up
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If I remember correctly, the old IPod touch you did have to set up
Chris!! The arguments You make are also very valid and make perfect sense!
Thank you. I think I agree with you. Tim Cooks is in the clear! Vest wishes
many blessings!
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- Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not
actually
: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not
actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it
downloaded to their device and take, to some, a considerable amount
Jonathan,
Or anyone for that matter, can someone explain what on Earth is wrong here?
You can turn off auto updates in Settings/iTunes App Store, so what exactly
is all the fuss about? Am I missing something?
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Neil Barnfather
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From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
Well, Pablo, we're not going to agree on this. I do not belive and
cannot be convinced
Yes. The fuss is Apple automatically downloads iOS updates to one's
device. Some just do not like that for some reason and feel it invades
their properties to use the device, which I don't agree with. Nothing is
being invaded at all. After all you did agree to Apple's ecosystem so I
say deal
Actually, I like the new Voiceover features, including the fact that it
now uses the Vocalizer Expressive voices that are found in NVDA. I even
like the new Siri voices too.
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Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not
actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it
downloaded to their device
I don't think the issue is with apps. The issue is that the iphone
automatically downloads IOS updates without asking. It does not
automatically install them, but it does download them and that space is
taken on the device until it's installed. I do think this should be a
user's choice, but is
: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
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Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not
actually forced into the update; they are just forced
I personally don't have a problem with what Apple is doing, but I'm going to
play devil's advocate. I think Apple shouldn't include accessibility as a
standard feature with their iOs, because it takes up space that I could use
for other items. If you want accessibility, you could hook up your
Kevin: I like your argument.
On 10/21/13, Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net wrote:
I personally don't have a problem with what Apple is doing, but I'm going
to
play devil's advocate. I think Apple shouldn't include accessibility as a
standard feature with their iOs, because it takes up space
The issue is that there are those who do not want to move up to IOS 7,
for example, people have reported that the iPhone 4 can run sluggishly
with IOS 7, but even though they have no intention of installing or
moving up to IOS 7, the IOS 7 update is downloaded to their device and
takes up over
update the IOs.
So are many mistakes here.
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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
I think there are several issues
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Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
I think there are several issues with this. First, you're thinking of
your iPhone as property
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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
I think there are several issues with this. First, you're thinking of
your iPhone as property. That may be true assuming you remove IOS from
this more
clear.
Take care,
Sieghard
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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 6:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
Well
mean, not providing a way to remove the data stored
in the iDevices.
- Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
Hope this goes
Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not
actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it
downloaded to their device and take, to some, a considerable amount of
space on their device. I can understand this being an issue for 8 GB and
16 GB devices,
stored in the iDevices.
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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:09 AM
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Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one
Here hear! Very very good Pablo I agree with you entirely! You should've been
a lawyer. Your logic is faultless . Tim Cooks will lose the case and his
nose!! Just keep it up! Vest wishes many blessings!
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Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not
actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it
downloaded to their device and take, to some, a considerable amount of
space
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris H
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:10 AM
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Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not
actually
, 2013 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not
actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it
downloaded to their device and take, to some, a considerable amount of
space
Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates
Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not
actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it
downloaded to their device and take, to some, a considerable amount of
space on their device. I can understand
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