Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-22 Thread Dawn Petty
huh, I am still using the old voiceover voice as far as I can tell. -Original Message- From: BBS Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Actually, I like the new Voiceover features, including

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:42 AM Subject: RE: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates I personally don't have a problem with what Apple is doing, but I'm going to play devil's advocate. I think Apple shouldn't include accessibility as a standard

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-22 Thread Chris H
not like it. - Original Message - From: Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:42 AM Subject: RE: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates I personally don't have a problem with what Apple is doing, but I'm going to play

RE: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-22 Thread Ron Pelletier
: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates If I remember correctly, the old IPod touch you did have to set up accessibility with ITunes. Call me lazy but I like that apple devices already come with accessibility, but I

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Troy Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates If I remember correctly, the old IPod touch you did have to set up

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Troy Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates If I remember correctly, the old IPod touch you did have to set up

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Troy Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates If I remember correctly, the old IPod touch you did have to set up

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread AppleGourmet
Chris!! The arguments You make are also very valid and make perfect sense! Thank you. I think I agree with you. Tim Cooks is in the clear! Vest wishes many blessings! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread Chris H
in the iDevices. - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:09 AM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not actually

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread Chris H
: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:09 AM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it downloaded to their device and take, to some, a considerable amount

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Jonathan, Or anyone for that matter, can someone explain what on Earth is wrong here? You can turn off auto updates in Settings/iTunes App Store, so what exactly is all the fuss about? Am I missing something? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread Pablo Morales
. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Well, Pablo, we're not going to agree on this. I do not belive and cannot be convinced

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread Chris H
Yes. The fuss is Apple automatically downloads iOS updates to one's device. Some just do not like that for some reason and feel it invades their properties to use the device, which I don't agree with. Nothing is being invaded at all. After all you did agree to Apple's ecosystem so I say deal

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread BBS
Actually, I like the new Voiceover features, including the fact that it now uses the Vocalizer Expressive voices that are found in NVDA. I even like the new Siri voices too. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread Anthony Vece
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:09 AM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it downloaded to their device

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread Mike Arrigo
I don't think the issue is with apps. The issue is that the iphone automatically downloads IOS updates without asking. It does not automatically install them, but it does download them and that space is taken on the device until it's installed. I do think this should be a user's choice, but is

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread Regina Alvarado
: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:09 AM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not actually forced into the update; they are just forced

RE: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread Kevin Minor
I personally don't have a problem with what Apple is doing, but I'm going to play devil's advocate. I think Apple shouldn't include accessibility as a standard feature with their iOs, because it takes up space that I could use for other items. If you want accessibility, you could hook up your

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Kevin: I like your argument. On 10/21/13, Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net wrote: I personally don't have a problem with what Apple is doing, but I'm going to play devil's advocate. I think Apple shouldn't include accessibility as a standard feature with their iOs, because it takes up space

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-21 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The issue is that there are those who do not want to move up to IOS 7, for example, people have reported that the iPhone 4 can run sluggishly with IOS 7, but even though they have no intention of installing or moving up to IOS 7, the IOS 7 update is downloaded to their device and takes up over

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-20 Thread Pablo Morales
update the IOs. So are many mistakes here. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates I think there are several issues

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates I think there are several issues with this. First, you're thinking of your iPhone as property

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-20 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates I think there are several issues with this. First, you're thinking of your iPhone as property. That may be true assuming you remove IOS from

RE: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
this more clear. Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 6:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Well

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-20 Thread Paul Henrichsen
mean, not providing a way to remove the data stored in the iDevices. - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:09 AM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Hope this goes

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-19 Thread Chris H
Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it downloaded to their device and take, to some, a considerable amount of space on their device. I can understand this being an issue for 8 GB and 16 GB devices,

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-19 Thread Pablo Morales
stored in the iDevices. - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:09 AM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-19 Thread AppleGourmet
Here hear! Very very good Pablo I agree with you entirely! You should've been a lawyer. Your logic is faultless . Tim Cooks will lose the case and his nose!! Just keep it up! Vest wishes many blessings! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group.

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
, 2013 3:09 AM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it downloaded to their device and take, to some, a considerable amount of space

RE: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not actually

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-19 Thread Chris H
, 2013 3:09 AM Subject: Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it downloaded to their device and take, to some, a considerable amount of space

Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-19 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates Hope this goes well, but I still believe in the notion that one is not actually forced into the update; they are just forced to have it downloaded to their device and take, to some, a considerable amount of space on their device. I can understand