Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-24 Thread Shaf 
Dog and Bone have some great wireless charging CASES.

On 9/23/2016 9:15 AM, Liz Pekler wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> 
> 
> It think Apple has yet to develop a device ready and capable of wireless
> charging. Though the Airpods is a good start (basically just cutting and
> letting go of the wires).
> 
> I believe they are really considering wireless charging technology but
> one step at a time. Imagine being able to add just an hour (and where
> will it take you) in their battery capability. Also, some small
> companies are benefiting from their slow pace actions on this technology.
> 
> I've been using Bezalel Latitue
>  
> just
> to compensate with their lack of leap of faith in the technology. And
> believe it or not but the said company is in the works for a wireless
> charging case for iPhone 7. Meaning they are being tipped that in the
> not so distant future we are still expecting iPhone that doesn't have
> this kind of technology.
> 
> Again, I'm crossing my fingers. Hopefully Apple will have the courage to
> explore that technology. 
> 
> Thanks for opening this discussion.
> 
> On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 11:24:53 PM UTC+8, Alan Lemly wrote:
> 
> With the elimination of the headphone jack on the iPhone 7 and its
> implications for those of us who listen and charge via wires, I'm
> looking for comments on wireless charging. I understand that how
> this is ultimately implemented by Apple is speculation but I'm
> curious at what others think.
> 
>  
> 
> My understanding that wireless charging in the Android world with
> the Samsung devices requires use of a charging pad. If that is
> correct, it seems to me that such a configuration requires hauling
> around more than a AC adapter plug and a lightning cable as I
> currently do when traveling in order to charge my iPhone. Is my
> understanding correct regarding what is currently existing in the
> wireless charging world?
> 
>  
> 
> Do those who keep beating the wireless charging drum expect that
> Apple will come out with an iDevice that has wireless charging built
> in by tapping a button or flipping a switch? This seems unlikely to
> me and having to carry around a charging pad or however Apple
> implements this seems more inconvenient than carrying around a small
> lightning cable and charging adapter as I currently do.
> 
>  
> 
> As I said at the beginning, I know this is speculation and that I
> know very little about it which is why I'm seeking comments from
> those on the list who know much more about this topic than I.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
> 
>  
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
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RE: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I think 5 or 10 years down the road people look back at plugging in wires to 
charge like some of us who have been around for a while look back at the first 
cell phones or hooking your 2400 Baut modem up to a phone line and connecting 
your computer to it via a serial cable. I doubt it has to do with courage 
whether Apple adopts wireless charging, but in typical Apple fashion they may 
not be the quickest at implementing a particular technology, but when they do 
there is a good chance it will be superior to what is out there because they 
have spent years and millions or billions on R&D and/or acquiring the expertise 
for it from some existing company. I would almost be surprised if the 10th 
anniversary iPhone next September (or maybe they'll release it in June to 
celebrate the release of the original model) wouldn't have wireless charging.


Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Liz Pekler
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:15 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

Hi Alan,


It think Apple has yet to develop a device ready and capable of wireless 
charging. Though the Airpods is a good start (basically just cutting and 
letting go of the wires).

I believe they are really considering wireless charging technology but one step 
at a time. Imagine being able to add just an hour (and where will it take you) 
in their battery capability. Also, some small companies are benefiting from 
their slow pace actions on this technology.

I've been using Bezalel 
Latitue<http://bezalel.co/products/latitude-iphone-universal-wireless-charging-case>
 just to compensate with their lack of leap of faith in the technology. And 
believe it or not but the said company is in the works for a wireless charging 
case for iPhone 7. Meaning they are being tipped that in the not so distant 
future we are still expecting iPhone that doesn't have this kind of technology.

Again, I'm crossing my fingers. Hopefully Apple will have the courage to 
explore that technology.

Thanks for opening this discussion.

On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 11:24:53 PM UTC+8, Alan Lemly wrote:
With the elimination of the headphone jack on the iPhone 7 and its implications 
for those of us who listen and charge via wires, I'm looking for comments on 
wireless charging. I understand that how this is ultimately implemented by 
Apple is speculation but I'm curious at what others think.

My understanding that wireless charging in the Android world with the Samsung 
devices requires use of a charging pad. If that is correct, it seems to me that 
such a configuration requires hauling around more than a AC adapter plug and a 
lightning cable as I currently do when traveling in order to charge my iPhone. 
Is my understanding correct regarding what is currently existing in the 
wireless charging world?

Do those who keep beating the wireless charging drum expect that Apple will 
come out with an iDevice that has wireless charging built in by tapping a 
button or flipping a switch? This seems unlikely to me and having to carry 
around a charging pad or however Apple implements this seems more inconvenient 
than carrying around a small lightning cable and charging adapter as I 
currently do.

As I said at the beginning, I know this is speculation and that I know very 
little about it which is why I'm seeking comments from those on the list who 
know much more about this topic than I.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Alan Lemly
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Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-23 Thread Liz Pekler 
Hi Alan,


It think Apple has yet to develop a device ready and capable of wireless 
charging. Though the Airpods is a good start (basically just cutting and 
letting go of the wires).

I believe they are really considering wireless charging technology but one 
step at a time. Imagine being able to add just an hour (and where will it 
take you) in their battery capability. Also, some small companies are 
benefiting from their slow pace actions on this technology.

I've been using Bezalel Latitue 
 
just 
to compensate with their lack of leap of faith in the technology. And 
believe it or not but the said company is in the works for a wireless 
charging case for iPhone 7. Meaning they are being tipped that in the not 
so distant future we are still expecting iPhone that doesn't have this kind 
of technology.

Again, I'm crossing my fingers. Hopefully Apple will have the courage to 
explore that technology. 

Thanks for opening this discussion.

On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 11:24:53 PM UTC+8, Alan Lemly wrote:
>
> With the elimination of the headphone jack on the iPhone 7 and its 
> implications for those of us who listen and charge via wires, I'm looking 
> for comments on wireless charging. I understand that how this is ultimately 
> implemented by Apple is speculation but I'm curious at what others think.
>
>  
>
> My understanding that wireless charging in the Android world with the 
> Samsung devices requires use of a charging pad. If that is correct, it 
> seems to me that such a configuration requires hauling around more than a 
> AC adapter plug and a lightning cable as I currently do when traveling in 
> order to charge my iPhone. Is my understanding correct regarding what is 
> currently existing in the wireless charging world?
>
>  
>
> Do those who keep beating the wireless charging drum expect that Apple 
> will come out with an iDevice that has wireless charging built in by 
> tapping a button or flipping a switch? This seems unlikely to me and having 
> to carry around a charging pad or however Apple implements this seems more 
> inconvenient than carrying around a small lightning cable and charging 
> adapter as I currently do.
>
>  
>
> As I said at the beginning, I know this is speculation and that I know 
> very little about it which is why I'm seeking comments from those on the 
> list who know much more about this topic than I.
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>
>  
>
> Alan Lemly
>

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Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-17 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 

Wow! Yes, please, we all need one!


Carol P - UK



On 17/09/2016 02:07, Kelly Pierce wrote:

Ben Lovejoy at 9to5Mac has been following this issue closely.  today
he reported that Apple bought a company in the past week that has
breakthrough technology.  devices can be charged up to 20 feet away
without placing the device on a charging pad.  If Apple can deploy
this technology to scale, it will be a game changer and Apple will
again set the standard that others must meet to be competitive.  Check
out Ben's reporting and analysis for more.

Kelly

On 9/16/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Interesting yes. Of course Nikola Tesla was working on the wireless
transmission of power and light 120 years ago and predicted much about
wireless communication back then.
It would definitely be like Apple to come out with something like that
especiall for the 10-year anniversary iPhone, if they could get this to work
next year's iPhone sales would go absolutely through the roof.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ed Worrell
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

Hello, Here is what I have found on what Apple may be working on for a
future device. It is just speculation, but it is fun to watch the ideas.

Apple Developing Wireless-Charged iPhone for as Soon as 2017 - Bloomberg
Apple Inc. is working with partners in the U.S. and Asia to develop new
wireless charging technology that could be deployed on its mobile devices as
soon as next year, according to people familiar with the plans.
Apple is exploring cutting-edge technologies that would allow iPhones and
iPads to be powered from further away than the charging mats used with
current smartphones, the people said, asking not to be identified as the
details are private. The iPhone maker is looking to overcome technical
barriers including loss of power over distance with a decision on
implementing the technology still being assessed, they said.

With iPhones and iPads generating more than three quarters of Apple’s
revenue, new technologies can give its devices an edge and help the company
sell products at a
premium<http://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-01-26/apple-s-premium-for-its-phones-defies-gravity-as-sales-soften>
in a slowing market. Samsung Electronics Co., Sony Corp. and Google Inc. are
among rivals that have released wirelessly-charged smartphones that still
require proximity to a charging plate.
Efficiency of power transfer decreases as the distance between transmitter
and receiver grows, which means batteries take longer to recharge.
Trudy Muller, a spokeswoman for Apple, declined to comment when contacted by
Bloomberg News.
Developing Technology
In 2010 Apple made a patent
application<http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=9,086,864.PN.&OS=PN/9,086,864&RS=PN/9,086,864>
outlining a concept of using an iMac personal computer as a hub for
wirelessly recharging at a distance of about 1 meter using a technique
called near-field magnetic resonance. Apple currently uses a similar
technique, called induction, to charge its Watch within millimeters of the
power source.
Another Apple patent<http://pimg-fpiw.uspto.gov/fdd/13/095/092/0.pdf>
outlined a method for making aluminum phone casings that allow radio waves
to pass through, a technique that would minimize the problem of metal
interfering with transmitted signals.
Apple has previously played
down<http://allthingsd.com/20120912/interview-phil-schiller-on-why-the-iphone-5-has-a-new-connector-but-not-nfc-or-wireless-charging/>
its interest in any charging technology that still needs to be plugged into
a wall socket because such methods would add little convenience.
Semiconductor makers
Broadcom<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
Corp. and
Qualcomm<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
Inc. are among those who have developed or are developing technology and
standards for wireless charging.
Broadcom offers a chip that supports the three major
wireless-charging<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
technical standards while Qualcomm supports two of those technologies and
last year said it has developed a method to skirt the problem of metallic
interference<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
in charging by connecting the power antenna to the phone’s casing.

Sorry for the long post. I thought this was an interesting read. Here is the
direct link to the article on the web.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/apple-said-developing-wireless-c

Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-17 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
I thought the wireless charging was via an induction plate or pad.
Charging is never that efficient, but the wireless technologies are less 
efficient still, and this despite all the blather about 
environment, ecology and so on.  Having said that, induction cooking plates 
might have something over conventional radiant heat 
rings.

But I'm blathering.  Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:03 AM
Subject: RE: Wireless Charging Comments?


Interesting yes. Of course Nikola Tesla was working on the wireless 
transmission of power and light 120 years ago and predicted much 
about wireless communication back then.
It would definitely be like Apple to come out with something like that 
especiall for the 10-year anniversary iPhone, if they could 
get this to work next year's iPhone sales would go absolutely through the roof.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

Hello, Here is what I have found on what Apple may be working on for a future 
device. It is just speculation, but it is fun to watch 
the ideas.

Apple Developing Wireless-Charged iPhone for as Soon as 2017 - Bloomberg
Apple Inc. is working with partners in the U.S. and Asia to develop new 
wireless charging technology that could be deployed on its 
mobile devices as soon as next year, according to people familiar with the 
plans.
Apple is exploring cutting-edge technologies that would allow iPhones and iPads 
to be powered from further away than the charging 
mats used with current smartphones, the people said, asking not to be 
identified as the details are private. The iPhone maker is 
looking to overcome technical barriers including loss of power over distance 
with a decision on implementing the technology still 
being assessed, they said.

With iPhones and iPads generating more than three quarters of Apple’s revenue, 
new technologies can give its devices an edge and 
help the company sell products at a 
premium<http://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-01-26/apple-s-premium-for-its-phones-defies-gravity-as-sales-soften>
 in a 
slowing market. Samsung Electronics Co., Sony Corp. and Google Inc. are among 
rivals that have released wirelessly-charged 
smartphones that still require proximity to a charging plate.
Efficiency of power transfer decreases as the distance between transmitter and 
receiver grows, which means batteries take longer to 
recharge.
Trudy Muller, a spokeswoman for Apple, declined to comment when contacted by 
Bloomberg News.
Developing Technology
In 2010 Apple made a patent 
application<http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=9,086,864.PN.&OS=PN/9,086,864&RS=PN/9,086,864>
 
outlining a concept of using an iMac personal computer as a hub for wirelessly 
recharging at a distance of about 1 meter using a 
technique called near-field magnetic resonance. Apple currently uses a similar 
technique, called induction, to charge its Watch 
within millimeters of the power source.
Another Apple patent<http://pimg-fpiw.uspto.gov/fdd/13/095/092/0.pdf> outlined 
a method for making aluminum phone casings that allow 
radio waves to pass through, a technique that would minimize the problem of 
metal interfering with transmitted signals.
Apple has previously played 
down<http://allthingsd.com/20120912/interview-phil-schiller-on-why-the-iphone-5-has-a-new-connector-but-not-nfc-or-wireless-charging/>
 
its interest in any charging technology that still needs to be plugged into a 
wall socket because such methods would add little 
convenience.
Semiconductor makers 
Broadcom<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
 Corp. and 
Qualcomm<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
 
Inc. are among those who have developed or are developing technology and 
standards for wireless charging.
Broadcom offers a chip that supports the three major 
wireless-charging<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
 technical standards while 
Qualcomm supports two of those technologies and last year said it has developed 
a method to skirt the problem of metallic 
interference<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
 
in charging by connecting the power antenna to the phone’s casing.

Sorry for the long post. I thought this was an interesting read. Here is the 
direct link to the article on the web.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/apple-said-developing-wireless-charged-phone

Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-16 Thread Kelly Pierce 
Ben Lovejoy at 9to5Mac has been following this issue closely.  today
he reported that Apple bought a company in the past week that has
breakthrough technology.  devices can be charged up to 20 feet away
without placing the device on a charging pad.  If Apple can deploy
this technology to scale, it will be a game changer and Apple will
again set the standard that others must meet to be competitive.  Check
out Ben's reporting and analysis for more.

Kelly

On 9/16/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Interesting yes. Of course Nikola Tesla was working on the wireless
> transmission of power and light 120 years ago and predicted much about
> wireless communication back then.
> It would definitely be like Apple to come out with something like that
> especiall for the 10-year anniversary iPhone, if they could get this to work
> next year's iPhone sales would go absolutely through the roof.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Ed Worrell
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 8:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?
>
> Hello, Here is what I have found on what Apple may be working on for a
> future device. It is just speculation, but it is fun to watch the ideas.
>
> Apple Developing Wireless-Charged iPhone for as Soon as 2017 - Bloomberg
> Apple Inc. is working with partners in the U.S. and Asia to develop new
> wireless charging technology that could be deployed on its mobile devices as
> soon as next year, according to people familiar with the plans.
> Apple is exploring cutting-edge technologies that would allow iPhones and
> iPads to be powered from further away than the charging mats used with
> current smartphones, the people said, asking not to be identified as the
> details are private. The iPhone maker is looking to overcome technical
> barriers including loss of power over distance with a decision on
> implementing the technology still being assessed, they said.
>
> With iPhones and iPads generating more than three quarters of Apple’s
> revenue, new technologies can give its devices an edge and help the company
> sell products at a
> premium<http://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-01-26/apple-s-premium-for-its-phones-defies-gravity-as-sales-soften>
> in a slowing market. Samsung Electronics Co., Sony Corp. and Google Inc. are
> among rivals that have released wirelessly-charged smartphones that still
> require proximity to a charging plate.
> Efficiency of power transfer decreases as the distance between transmitter
> and receiver grows, which means batteries take longer to recharge.
> Trudy Muller, a spokeswoman for Apple, declined to comment when contacted by
> Bloomberg News.
> Developing Technology
> In 2010 Apple made a patent
> application<http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=9,086,864.PN.&OS=PN/9,086,864&RS=PN/9,086,864>
> outlining a concept of using an iMac personal computer as a hub for
> wirelessly recharging at a distance of about 1 meter using a technique
> called near-field magnetic resonance. Apple currently uses a similar
> technique, called induction, to charge its Watch within millimeters of the
> power source.
> Another Apple patent<http://pimg-fpiw.uspto.gov/fdd/13/095/092/0.pdf>
> outlined a method for making aluminum phone casings that allow radio waves
> to pass through, a technique that would minimize the problem of metal
> interfering with transmitted signals.
> Apple has previously played
> down<http://allthingsd.com/20120912/interview-phil-schiller-on-why-the-iphone-5-has-a-new-connector-but-not-nfc-or-wireless-charging/>
> its interest in any charging technology that still needs to be plugged into
> a wall socket because such methods would add little convenience.
> Semiconductor makers
> Broadcom<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
> Corp. and
> Qualcomm<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
> Inc. are among those who have developed or are developing technology and
> standards for wireless charging.
> Broadcom offers a chip that supports the three major
> wireless-charging<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
> technical standards while Qualcomm supports two of those technologies and
> last year said it has developed a method to skirt the problem of metallic
> interference<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
> in charging by connecting the power ant

RE: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Interesting yes. Of course Nikola Tesla was working on the wireless 
transmission of power and light 120 years ago and predicted much about wireless 
communication back then.
It would definitely be like Apple to come out with something like that 
especiall for the 10-year anniversary iPhone, if they could get this to work 
next year's iPhone sales would go absolutely through the roof.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

Hello, Here is what I have found on what Apple may be working on for a future 
device. It is just speculation, but it is fun to watch the ideas.

Apple Developing Wireless-Charged iPhone for as Soon as 2017 - Bloomberg
Apple Inc. is working with partners in the U.S. and Asia to develop new 
wireless charging technology that could be deployed on its mobile devices as 
soon as next year, according to people familiar with the plans.
Apple is exploring cutting-edge technologies that would allow iPhones and iPads 
to be powered from further away than the charging mats used with current 
smartphones, the people said, asking not to be identified as the details are 
private. The iPhone maker is looking to overcome technical barriers including 
loss of power over distance with a decision on implementing the technology 
still being assessed, they said.

With iPhones and iPads generating more than three quarters of Apple’s revenue, 
new technologies can give its devices an edge and help the company sell 
products at a 
premium<http://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-01-26/apple-s-premium-for-its-phones-defies-gravity-as-sales-soften>
 in a slowing market. Samsung Electronics Co., Sony Corp. and Google Inc. are 
among rivals that have released wirelessly-charged smartphones that still 
require proximity to a charging plate.
Efficiency of power transfer decreases as the distance between transmitter and 
receiver grows, which means batteries take longer to recharge.
Trudy Muller, a spokeswoman for Apple, declined to comment when contacted by 
Bloomberg News.
Developing Technology
In 2010 Apple made a patent 
application<http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=9,086,864.PN.&OS=PN/9,086,864&RS=PN/9,086,864>
 outlining a concept of using an iMac personal computer as a hub for wirelessly 
recharging at a distance of about 1 meter using a technique called near-field 
magnetic resonance. Apple currently uses a similar technique, called induction, 
to charge its Watch within millimeters of the power source.
Another Apple patent<http://pimg-fpiw.uspto.gov/fdd/13/095/092/0.pdf> outlined 
a method for making aluminum phone casings that allow radio waves to pass 
through, a technique that would minimize the problem of metal interfering with 
transmitted signals.
Apple has previously played 
down<http://allthingsd.com/20120912/interview-phil-schiller-on-why-the-iphone-5-has-a-new-connector-but-not-nfc-or-wireless-charging/>
 its interest in any charging technology that still needs to be plugged into a 
wall socket because such methods would add little convenience.
Semiconductor makers 
Broadcom<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
 Corp. and 
Qualcomm<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
 Inc. are among those who have developed or are developing technology and 
standards for wireless charging.
Broadcom offers a chip that supports the three major 
wireless-charging<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
 technical standards while Qualcomm supports two of those technologies and last 
year said it has developed a method to skirt the problem of metallic 
interference<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
 in charging by connecting the power antenna to the phone’s casing.

Sorry for the long post. I thought this was an interesting read. Here is the 
direct link to the article on the web.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/apple-said-developing-wireless-charged-phone-for-as-soon-as-2017-ijz3i4si

Ed
On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Christopher,

Thanks for clarifying this. It's good that a charging option will at some point 
exist for the iPhone that won't interfere with those wanting to use wired 
headsets but we're still going to be using a wire to plug that charging pad 
into something. I like that the Samsung also gives users the option to charge 
the old fashioned way with a cable and adapter.

Alan

-Original Message---

Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-16 Thread Ed Worrell 
Hello, Here is what I have found on what Apple may be working on for a future 
device. It is just speculation, but it is fun to watch the ideas.

Apple Developing Wireless-Charged iPhone for as Soon as 2017 - Bloomberg

Apple Inc. is working with partners in the U.S. and Asia to develop new 
wireless charging technology that could be deployed on its mobile devices as 
soon as next year, according to people familiar with the plans.

Apple is exploring cutting-edge technologies that would allow iPhones and iPads 
to be powered from further away than the charging mats used with current 
smartphones, the people said, asking not to be identified as the details are 
private. The iPhone maker is looking to overcome technical barriers including 
loss of power over distance with a decision on implementing the technology 
still being assessed, they said.

With iPhones and iPads generating more than three quarters of Apple’s revenue, 
new technologies can give its devices an edge and help the company sell 
products at a premium 
<http://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-01-26/apple-s-premium-for-its-phones-defies-gravity-as-sales-soften>
 in a slowing market. Samsung Electronics Co., Sony Corp. and Google Inc. are 
among rivals that have released wirelessly-charged smartphones that still 
require proximity to a charging plate.

Efficiency of power transfer decreases as the distance between transmitter and 
receiver grows, which means batteries take longer to recharge. 

Trudy Muller, a spokeswoman for Apple, declined to comment when contacted by 
Bloomberg News.

Developing Technology

In 2010 Apple made a patent application 
<http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=9,086,864.PN.&OS=PN/9,086,864&RS=PN/9,086,864>
 outlining a concept of using an iMac personal computer as a hub for wirelessly 
recharging at a distance of about 1 meter using a technique called near-field 
magnetic resonance. Apple currently uses a similar technique, called induction, 
to charge its Watch within millimeters of the power source.

Another Apple patent <http://pimg-fpiw.uspto.gov/fdd/13/095/092/0.pdf> outlined 
a method for making aluminum phone casings that allow radio waves to pass 
through, a technique that would minimize the problem of metal interfering with 
transmitted signals.

Apple has previously played down 
<http://allthingsd.com/20120912/interview-phil-schiller-on-why-the-iphone-5-has-a-new-connector-but-not-nfc-or-wireless-charging/>
 its interest in any charging technology that still needs to be plugged into a 
wall socket because such methods would add little convenience.

Semiconductor makers Broadcom 
<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
 Corp. and Qualcomm 
<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
 Inc. are among those who have developed or are developing technology and 
standards for wireless charging.

Broadcom offers a chip that supports the three major wireless-charging 
<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
 technical standards while Qualcomm supports two of those technologies and last 
year said it has developed a method to skirt the problem of metallic 
interference 
<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
 in charging by connecting the power antenna to the phone’s casing.


Sorry for the long post. I thought this was an interesting read. Here is the 
direct link to the article on the web.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/apple-said-developing-wireless-charged-phone-for-as-soon-as-2017-ijz3i4si

Ed
> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> Thanks for clarifying this. It's good that a charging option will at some 
> point exist for the iPhone that won't interfere with those wanting to use 
> wired headsets but we're still going to be using a wire to plug that charging 
> pad into something. I like that the Samsung also gives users the option to 
> charge the old fashioned way with a cable and adapter.
> 
> Alan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?
> 
> The way it works with Samsung phones is that when you buy the phone, you get 
> an AC adapter and a USB cable. You can charge your phone by just plugging 
> your USB cable into your phone and your AC adapter and then of course 
> plugging the AC adapter into a wall outlet. This is basica

RE: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-12 Thread Alan Lemly 
Christopher,

Thanks for clarifying this. It's good that a charging option will at some point 
exist for the iPhone that won't interfere with those wanting to use wired 
headsets but we're still going to be using a wire to plug that charging pad 
into something. I like that the Samsung also gives users the option to charge 
the old fashioned way with a cable and adapter.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

The way it works with Samsung phones is that when you buy the phone, you get an 
AC adapter and a USB cable. You can charge your phone by just plugging your USB 
cable into your phone and your AC adapter and then of course plugging the AC 
adapter into a wall outlet. This is basically identical to how things work with 
the iPhone.

If you purchase a wireless charging pad then you get the pad , a USB cable and 
an AC adapter. The pad is a disk that's a bit shorter and wider than the S7 and 
a bit thicker. You plug the cable into the AC adapter and the pad and then you 
only need to drop your Samsung phone onto the pad. When traveling you can take 
the pad with you or just the AC adapter and USB cable.

I'm familiar with the Samsung devices, but I'm pretty sure this is how it works 
with all phones that support wireless charging.

On 12/09/16 10:24, Alan Lemly wrote:
> With the elimination of the headphone jack on the iPhone 7 and its 
> implications for those of us who listen and charge via wires, I'm 
> looking for comments on wireless charging. I understand that how this 
> is ultimately implemented by Apple is speculation but I'm curious at 
> what others think.
>
>
>
> My understanding that wireless charging in the Android world with the 
> Samsung devices requires use of a charging pad. If that is correct, it 
> seems to me that such a configuration requires hauling around more 
> than a AC adapter plug and a lightning cable as I currently do when 
> traveling in order to charge my iPhone. Is my understanding correct 
> regarding what is currently existing in the wireless charging world?
>
>
>
> Do those who keep beating the wireless charging drum expect that Apple 
> will come out with an iDevice that has wireless charging built in by 
> tapping a button or flipping a switch? This seems unlikely to me and 
> having to carry around a charging pad or however Apple implements this 
> seems more inconvenient than carrying around a small lightning cable 
> and charging adapter as I currently do.
>
>
>
> As I said at the beginning, I know this is speculation and that I know 
> very little about it which is why I'm seeking comments from those on 
> the list who know much more about this topic than I.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
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Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-12 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
The way it works with Samsung phones is that when you buy the phone, you 
get an AC adapter and a USB cable. You can charge your phone by just 
plugging your USB cable into your phone and your AC adapter and then of 
course plugging the AC adapter into a wall outlet. This is basically 
identical to how things work with the iPhone.


If you purchase a wireless charging pad then you get the pad , a USB 
cable and an AC adapter. The pad is a disk that's a bit shorter and 
wider than the S7 and a bit thicker. You plug the cable into the AC 
adapter and the pad and then you only need to drop your Samsung phone 
onto the pad. When traveling you can take the pad with you or just the 
AC adapter and USB cable.


I'm familiar with the Samsung devices, but I'm pretty sure this is how 
it works with all phones that support wireless charging.


On 12/09/16 10:24, Alan Lemly wrote:

With the elimination of the headphone jack on the iPhone 7 and its
implications for those of us who listen and charge via wires, I'm
looking for comments on wireless charging. I understand that how this is
ultimately implemented by Apple is speculation but I'm curious at what
others think.



My understanding that wireless charging in the Android world with the
Samsung devices requires use of a charging pad. If that is correct, it
seems to me that such a configuration requires hauling around more than
a AC adapter plug and a lightning cable as I currently do when traveling
in order to charge my iPhone. Is my understanding correct regarding what
is currently existing in the wireless charging world?



Do those who keep beating the wireless charging drum expect that Apple
will come out with an iDevice that has wireless charging built in by
tapping a button or flipping a switch? This seems unlikely to me and
having to carry around a charging pad or however Apple implements this
seems more inconvenient than carrying around a small lightning cable and
charging adapter as I currently do.



As I said at the beginning, I know this is speculation and that I know
very little about it which is why I'm seeking comments from those on the
list who know much more about this topic than I.



Thanks in advance for your comments.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

2016-09-12 Thread Robin 

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At 08:24 AM 9/12/2016, you wrote:
With the elimination of the headphone jack on the iPhone 7 and its 
implications for those of us who listen and charge via wires, I'm 
looking for comments on wireless charging. I understand that how 
this is ultimately implemented by Apple is speculation but I'm 
curious at what others think.


My understanding that wireless charging in the Android world with 
the Samsung devices requires use of a charging pad. If that is 
correct, it seems to me that such a configuration requires hauling 
around more than a AC adapter plug and a lightning cable as I 
currently do when traveling in order to charge my iPhone. Is my 
understanding correct regarding what is currently existing in the 
wireless charging world?


Do those who keep beating the wireless charging drum expect that 
Apple will come out with an iDevice that has wireless charging built 
in by tapping a button or flipping a switch? This seems unlikely to 
me and having to carry around a charging pad or however Apple 
implements this seems more inconvenient than carrying around a small 
lightning cable and charging adapter as I currently do.


As I said at the beginning, I know this is speculation and that I 
know very little about it which is why I'm seeking comments from 
those on the list who know much more about this topic than I.


Thanks in advance for your comments.

Alan Lemly

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