Interesting yes. Of course Nikola Tesla was working on the wireless 
transmission of power and light 120 years ago and predicted much about wireless 
communication back then.
It would definitely be like Apple to come out with something like that 
especiall for the 10-year anniversary iPhone, if they could get this to work 
next year's iPhone sales would go absolutely through the roof.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

Hello, Here is what I have found on what Apple may be working on for a future 
device. It is just speculation, but it is fun to watch the ideas.

Apple Developing Wireless-Charged iPhone for as Soon as 2017 - Bloomberg
Apple Inc. is working with partners in the U.S. and Asia to develop new 
wireless charging technology that could be deployed on its mobile devices as 
soon as next year, according to people familiar with the plans.
Apple is exploring cutting-edge technologies that would allow iPhones and iPads 
to be powered from further away than the charging mats used with current 
smartphones, the people said, asking not to be identified as the details are 
private. The iPhone maker is looking to overcome technical barriers including 
loss of power over distance with a decision on implementing the technology 
still being assessed, they said.

With iPhones and iPads generating more than three quarters of Apple’s revenue, 
new technologies can give its devices an edge and help the company sell 
products at a 
premium<http://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-01-26/apple-s-premium-for-its-phones-defies-gravity-as-sales-soften>
 in a slowing market. Samsung Electronics Co., Sony Corp. and Google Inc. are 
among rivals that have released wirelessly-charged smartphones that still 
require proximity to a charging plate.
Efficiency of power transfer decreases as the distance between transmitter and 
receiver grows, which means batteries take longer to recharge.
Trudy Muller, a spokeswoman for Apple, declined to comment when contacted by 
Bloomberg News.
Developing Technology
In 2010 Apple made a patent 
application<http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=9,086,864.PN.&OS=PN/9,086,864&RS=PN/9,086,864>
 outlining a concept of using an iMac personal computer as a hub for wirelessly 
recharging at a distance of about 1 meter using a technique called near-field 
magnetic resonance. Apple currently uses a similar technique, called induction, 
to charge its Watch within millimeters of the power source.
Another Apple patent<http://pimg-fpiw.uspto.gov/fdd/13/095/092/0.pdf> outlined 
a method for making aluminum phone casings that allow radio waves to pass 
through, a technique that would minimize the problem of metal interfering with 
transmitted signals.
Apple has previously played 
down<http://allthingsd.com/20120912/interview-phil-schiller-on-why-the-iphone-5-has-a-new-connector-but-not-nfc-or-wireless-charging/>
 its interest in any charging technology that still needs to be plugged into a 
wall socket because such methods would add little convenience.
Semiconductor makers 
Broadcom<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
 Corp. and 
Qualcomm<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
 Inc. are among those who have developed or are developing technology and 
standards for wireless charging.
Broadcom offers a chip that supports the three major 
wireless-charging<https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless-connectivity/wireless-charging/bcm59350>
 technical standards while Qualcomm supports two of those technologies and last 
year said it has developed a method to skirt the problem of metallic 
interference<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/07/28/qualcomm-becomes-first-company-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices>
 in charging by connecting the power antenna to the phone’s casing.

Sorry for the long post. I thought this was an interesting read. Here is the 
direct link to the article on the web.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/apple-said-developing-wireless-charged-phone-for-as-soon-as-2017-ijz3i4si

Ed
On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Alan Lemly 
<wale...@gmail.com<mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Christopher,

Thanks for clarifying this. It's good that a charging option will at some point 
exist for the iPhone that won't interfere with those wanting to use wired 
headsets but we're still going to be using a wire to plug that charging pad 
into something. I like that the Samsung also gives users the option to charge 
the old fashioned way with a cable and adapter.

Alan

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

The way it works with Samsung phones is that when you buy the phone, you get an 
AC adapter and a USB cable. You can charge your phone by just plugging your USB 
cable into your phone and your AC adapter and then of course plugging the AC 
adapter into a wall outlet. This is basically identical to how things work with 
the iPhone.

If you purchase a wireless charging pad then you get the pad , a USB cable and 
an AC adapter. The pad is a disk that's a bit shorter and wider than the S7 and 
a bit thicker. You plug the cable into the AC adapter and the pad and then you 
only need to drop your Samsung phone onto the pad. When traveling you can take 
the pad with you or just the AC adapter and USB cable.

I'm familiar with the Samsung devices, but I'm pretty sure this is how it works 
with all phones that support wireless charging.

On 12/09/16 10:24, Alan Lemly wrote:

With the elimination of the headphone jack on the iPhone 7 and its
implications for those of us who listen and charge via wires, I'm
looking for comments on wireless charging. I understand that how this
is ultimately implemented by Apple is speculation but I'm curious at
what others think.



My understanding that wireless charging in the Android world with the
Samsung devices requires use of a charging pad. If that is correct, it
seems to me that such a configuration requires hauling around more
than a AC adapter plug and a lightning cable as I currently do when
traveling in order to charge my iPhone. Is my understanding correct
regarding what is currently existing in the wireless charging world?



Do those who keep beating the wireless charging drum expect that Apple
will come out with an iDevice that has wireless charging built in by
tapping a button or flipping a switch? This seems unlikely to me and
having to carry around a charging pad or however Apple implements this
seems more inconvenient than carrying around a small lightning cable
and charging adapter as I currently do.



As I said at the beginning, I know this is speculation and that I know
very little about it which is why I'm seeking comments from those on
the list who know much more about this topic than I.



Thanks in advance for your comments.



Alan Lemly

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