Re: LARGEFILE configure issue

2005-02-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
. Even if changing the order appears to work now, there is no telling what dependencies might show up based on current documented order of inclusion. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: stat() and the NLA0: device.

2005-02-02 Thread Craig A. Berry
x27;ll see a listing of the code with links to the patches that introduced each line. The lines containing the code in question have a "1" next to them, indicating they were already there when the repository was created in 1997. -- Cra

Re: stat() and the NLA0: device.

2005-02-03 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 11:29 AM -0600 2/3/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Craig A. Berry wrote: > >> At 2:41 PM -0600 2/2/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >> >I notice that Perl is checking if the stat is being done on the NULL >> >device, and generating a fake stat str

Re: 5.8.6 - %MMS-F-GWKNOACTS, Actions to update ATTRS.C are unknown.

2005-02-03 Thread Craig A. Berry
xs $(XSUBPPDEPS) That makes it explicit, but the impliicit rule should work. >which there is a rule for. But I am not sure what to do get beyond this point. Switch to MMK or force your filenames to be all upper case by unpacking your archive like so: $ vmstar -xof perl.tar where the -o optio

GNU make (was Re: 5.8.6 - %MMS-F-GWKNOACTS, Actions to update ATTRS.C are unknown.)

2005-02-04 Thread Craig A. Berry
t for GNU make. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: GNU make (was Re: 5.8.6 - %MMS-F-GWKNOACTS, Actions to update ATTRS.C are unknown.)

2005-02-06 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 7:30 PM -0500 2/4/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >Craig A. Berry wrote: > >>When GNV gets to the point where we can use Configure rather than >>configure.com and stop maintaining a separate behemoth configuration >>script, that's the point where we will need to

Re: Where were we at?

2005-02-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 5:45 AM -0500 2/7/05, Michael G Schwern wrote: >On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 05:44:20PM -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> That was my first theory as well, but that's not it. It's the result of >> the fact that I have a logical name "bin" defined, so it looks for

Re: Where were we at?

2005-02-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
ot; as bin: first. Both of these are pretty recent, so IMO MakeMaker needs to make a reasonable effort to work when they are not available. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: time functions

2005-02-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
pointy-haired bosses for reading in their office software. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Quotas and disk space requirements for build/test Perl?

2005-02-10 Thread Craig A. Berry
s and pipes, so make sure your PRCLM and BYTLM are generous. The default PRCLM of 2 on VAX is almost certainly inadequate. -- ____ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Issue while configuring perl on VMS

2005-02-14 Thread Craig A. Berry
l not even compile with C++ and will need some tweaking. In any case, if it is compiled with CXX, I believe it should be linked with CXXLINK. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

RE: Issue while configuring perl on VMS

2005-02-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
orks fine. -- ____ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Debugger - was: Changing osname or ^O from VMS.C at startup?

2005-02-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
for that MMK command. Yes, sorry, I assumed that. Use the same macros when making the test target as when doing the build. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_08

2005-02-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
ot;dynamic", OPTIMIZE="/NoList", PREFIX="../dummy-install", PASTHRU_DEFI # %MMK-F-ERRUPD, error status %X000382A0 occurred when updating target SUBDIRS # %MMK-F-ERRUPD, error status %X1C14803C occurred when updating target DISTTEST # Looks like you failed 1 tests of 80. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Changing osname or ^O from VMS.C at startup?

2005-02-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
fig.h the C header both get their values from config.sh, which is generated at configuration time by configure.com. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Changing osname or ^O from VMS.C at startup?

2005-02-16 Thread Craig A. Berry
X_ PL_Sv,"\" Built under %s\\n\"",OSNAME); OSNAME, __DATE__, __TIME__)); PL_osname = savepv(OSNAME); -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: failed tests after 5.8.6 build

2005-02-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
debugging it. Running it outside of the test harness using the Perl debugger might turn up something. -- ____ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

[PATCH] Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_08

2005-02-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
gt;{MAKE}. Craig A. Berry wrote: At 9:31 AM -0500 2/8/05, Michael G Schwern wrote: Its time for another MakeMaker alpha! With Perl 5.8.4 on OpenVMS Alpha 7.1, an older, directory-depth challenged version, basic.t and recurs.t fail because they blow the 8-level limit. With Perl 5.8.4 on OpenVMS Alp

adding extensions to Perl (was Re: failed tests after 5.8.6 build)

2005-02-18 Thread Craig A. Berry
and moved anywhere you like, including to other systems of the same architecture and the same or later VMS version. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

new place to get VMS Perl binaries

2005-02-18 Thread Craig A. Berry
5.8.4 is still current enough for most purposes. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Error testing Pathtools 3.04 * Perl 5.8.6

2005-02-18 Thread Craig A. Berry
observed, but this is the first thing you need to do regardless. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: error building perl 5.8.4

2005-02-18 Thread Craig A. Berry
could be wrong? I have include an attachment of the output >>>of build_perl.com in hopes someone could see what I could not. >> >>Run the attached command procedure and let me know if you get an error. >>There was a problem in MMK 3.9-9 that was supposedly fixed in

Re: [PATCH] Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_08

2005-02-19 Thread Craig A. Berry
Michael G Schwern wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 10:32:07PM -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: Does pasthru ever send switches to the child that were not sent to the parent? If not, we might be better off dispensing with pasthru on VMS and keeping the old definition of $self->{MAKE}. I'm inclin

[PATCH] Re: [PATCH] Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_08

2005-02-20 Thread Craig A. Berry
Craig A. Berry wrote: We'll also have to fiddle with MACROSTART and MACROEND, or omit referencing PASTHRU at all when it doesn't match \w+. Otherwise we get what we have now, which is The attached patch does the fiddling in both MM_Unix.pm (subdir_x) and MM_Any.pm (dist_test). I'

symlink support (was Re: Changing osname or ^O from VMS.C at startup?)

2005-02-20 Thread Craig A. Berry
ve always had to do this as well. The Perl implementation is a very mixed bag of calls to the CRTL and to native APIs, so it might well be rather difficult to disentangle when we need unix syntax and when we need VMS syntax under conditions where we can no longer assume it's always safe

Re: When was fab$v_erl introduced?

2005-02-24 Thread Craig A. Berry
s of Lock */ #define fab$v_erl fab$r_fop_overlay.fab$r_fop_bits_overlay.fab$v_erl -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

verifying Perl installation (was Re: Error testing Pathtools 3.04 * Perl 5.8.6)

2005-02-24 Thread Craig A. Berry
he beginning of an installation verification procedure, but I don't think it does much right now. The basic unix paradigm is to test before installing rather than after. There's no reason we can't do both, but the post-installation test isn't currently available. -- ______

Re: [.t.io]fs.t fails with hard links on OpenVMS.

2005-03-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
"n" >+$ usesymlinks = "n" >+$ usehardlinks > > >+$ config_symbols4 >="|usethreads|usevmsdebug|usefaststdio|usemallocwrap|unlink_all_versions > |uselargefiles|usehardlinks|usesymlinks|" > I don't think there's any reason we woul

Re: SYMLINK support needs _USE_STD_STAT like _LARGEFILE is defined.

2005-03-03 Thread Craig A. Berry
em supports >it and the uselargefiles option is also active. It may be counterintuitive that one has to enable large file support in order to also get symlink support. But I don't have a better suggestion at the moment. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Will CPAN work

2005-03-04 Thread Craig A. Berry
wrote the VMS::FileUtils module to handle the multiple dot issue you are encountering: http://search.cpan.org/~clane/VMS-FileUtils_0.014/ -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than gett

Re: SYMLINK support needs _USE_STD_STAT like _LARGEFILE is defined.

2005-03-04 Thread Craig A. Berry
ILENAME_UNIX_ONLY and >DECC$FILENAME_UNIX_REPORT logical names every where it returns a filename. Yup. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Will CPAN work

2005-03-05 Thread Craig A. Berry
r IPC::Run which both look like a big nono on >VMS. There was some discussion on p5p of having IPC::Run use sockets on Win32. I think that would work on VMS as well. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much mo

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_10

2005-03-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
Michael G Schwern wrote: http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.25_10.tar.gz or http://svn.schwern.org/svn/CPAN/ExtUtils-MakeMaker/trunk or a CPAN near you Its another release candidate. This one fixes the recompilation problem noted in the last release (and various previous ones).

Re: Pathtool 3.05 breaks fail-like,fail-more and is_deeply

2005-03-16 Thread Craig A. Berry
e, I don't know if there's anything we can act on. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_10

2005-03-16 Thread Craig A. Berry
Michael G Schwern wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:23:59PM -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: Trying revision 2334 on OpenVMS Alpha v7.3-1, Perl 5.8.4, the build dies variously: As always, I need to see the generated Makefiles. Sorry, see attached. $ perl Makefile.PL $ mms/ident %MMS-I-IDENT, MMS

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_10

2005-03-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 5:39 PM -0800 3/16/05, Michael G Schwern wrote: >On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:27:06PM -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> # timestamp file to avoid repeated invocations under VMS >> pm_to_blib : pm_to_blib.ts >> $(NOECHO) $(NOOP) >> >> >> pm_to_blib : $(T

Re: Module::Install and portability?

2005-03-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
Thomas R Wyant_III wrote: Has anyone gotten Module::Install to work under VMS? Or has anyone _not_ been able to get it to install? Install, heck, I can't even get it to build: $ perl Makefile.PL Can't locate object method "new" via package "Module::Install::autoinstall" (perhaps you forgot to loa

MM 6.25_12 on VMS status (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_10)

2005-03-20 Thread Craig A. Berry
here is no underscore in the version. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: MM 6.25_12 on VMS status (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_10)

2005-03-21 Thread Craig A. Berry
descrip.mms you posted was for B, not for B::C, which is where the problem apparently is. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

[PATCH] Module::Install 0.36 for VMS (was Re: Module::Install and portability?)

2005-03-26 Thread Craig A. Berry
Michael G Schwern wrote: If it has to scan the filesystem to figure out what's in inc/ then there could be problems. A simple work around for non-case preserving file systems might be a patch to Module::Install::Base to peek inside the .pm file for a package statement which matches (case- insensi

Re: [PATCH] Module::Install 0.36 for VMS (was Re: Module::Install and portability?)

2005-03-26 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 2:00 PM -0800 3/26/05, Michael G Schwern wrote: >On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 09:35:10AM -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> 2.) Use '_author' instead of '.author' when on VMS since a dot in a >> directory name is usually invalid and always awkward. > >Really?

Re: mm_vms.pm question.

2005-04-04 Thread Craig A. Berry
se?patch=22544 http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.vmsperl/12349 -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

[PATCH] usesitecustomize for VMS

2005-04-09 Thread Craig A. Berry
The attached patch adds configuration support for usesitecustomize on VMS. --- configure.com;-0Mon Jan 10 03:24:02 2005 +++ configure.com Sat Apr 9 13:02:27 2005 @@ -49,6 +49,7 @@ $ use64bitall = "n" $ use64bitint = "n" $ uselargefiles = "n" +$ usesitecustomize = "n" $ C_Compiler_Re

Re: 24318 warnes on OpenVMS V7.2

2005-04-26 Thread Craig A. Berry
or it's not too painful to regenerate). >Is the "mmk/ignore=warning" something to add to Test::Smoke for VMS? It might get you a bit farther, but I think you'd still run into trouble building extensions because I don't think the MMK qualifiers are passed through. -

Re: 24318 warnes on OpenVMS V7.2

2005-04-27 Thread Craig A. Berry
arations. Nothing pops out in a quick look at Abe's listing file, but I'll try to dig into more later. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Building release 5.8.4 on HP I64

2005-05-27 Thread Craig A. Berry
the configuration process. Is there something that I should have done >differently during the configuration? > >Thanks for any help you can provide. > >Doug Woronuk > >Senior Software Analyst > >Communications Protocols > >MegaSys Computer Technologies > >

RE: Building release 5.8.4 on HP I64

2005-05-27 Thread Craig A. Berry
$ vms_cc_dflt = "/decc" $ vms_cc_available = vms_cc_available + "cc/decc " -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

[PATCH] VMS build update for blead

2005-05-28 Thread Craig A. Berry
This gets [EMAIL PROTECTED] building again on VMS, though with quite a few as-yet-uninvestigated test failures. Here's what the patch addresses: In doio.c, the arguments to tovmsspec and tovmspath are not const. In perly.c, SvPVX_const returns "const char *" not "const char **" as the target of

[PATCH configure.com] compiler awareness week

2005-05-29 Thread Craig A. Berry
The compiler formerly known as Compaq C (and even more formerly known as DEC C) has been rebranded to HP C. In #21933 I guessed that it would be hp C, (lower case), but the new version currently in field test has it as HP C. If we don't recognize the compiler correctly, all sorts of other bad thin

RE: Building release 5.8.4 on HP I64

2005-05-30 Thread Craig A. Berry
poor support out in the wild, but I can't see that it cross-correlates with either open source or commercial; there are plenty of good and bad examples of both. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Anyone run vms/ext/filespec.t in a while?

2005-07-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
x27;re using Perl substitutes to emulate the necessary VMS system calls). -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Anyone run vms/ext/filespec.t in a while?

2005-07-11 Thread Craig A. Berry
x27;ll also need to see if any changes are necessary to get them to apply to bleadperl. Unfortunately bleadperl is changing so rapidly these days it's hard to keep it buildable on VMS for more than a few minutes at a time. -- ____ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EM

Re: Hard link support for VMS (part 2)

2005-07-11 Thread Craig A. Berry
H(line)) Same or similar patch is already in. >+$ rp = "Try to understand large files, if available? [''bool_dflt'] " Large file support is already in, so for this to be applied, we will have to sort out what's new. >+$ IF (tmp .GES. "8.2") .AND. (f$g

Re: Hard link support for VMS (part 3)

2005-07-11 Thread Craig A. Berry
guration options to handle specific listing preferences. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Hard link support for VMS (part 2)

2005-07-11 Thread Craig A. Berry
o do is rewrite the install target so it does not depend on perl_setup.com to know where it's installing. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: extutils (Makemaker) changes.

2005-07-14 Thread Craig A. Berry
time. If Configure could be made to run within GNV, and if $^O could report something other than 'VMS', we might be closer to what is really needed. Nevertheless, I think John's work is an important proof of concept and may turn out to be the direction we ultimately follow. I do

Re: feedback on VMS changes

2005-07-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
doc.perl.org/perlvms.html#Perl-variables Oh, and %ENV{} is not a function; it's a hash variable. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: feedback on VMS changes

2005-07-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
ppen. Sorry if I missed this in an earlier post, but what symbols are MMS/MMK looking for that they don't find? As far as I know, everything gets passed through explicitly using the /MACRO qualifier. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] &quo

Re: What's holding up mainperl from upgrading MakeMaker?

2005-07-24 Thread Craig A. Berry
s on the build tools reflect the assumption that all warnings will be fixed before proceeding. I'm testing a patch against blead that should get it building again. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more d

[PATCH] blead help for VMS

2005-07-24 Thread Craig A. Berry
The attached patch (plus one additional step) gets bleadperl building on VMS again. The additional step is renaming the directory ext/Compress/Zlib/zlib-src-1.2.3 to ext/Compress/Zlib/zlib-src which I assume needs to be done in Perforce. The related changes to MANIFEST and ext/Compress/Zlib/co

[PATCH] Re: blead@25210 on OpenVMS (not good)

2005-07-24 Thread Craig A. Berry
tot--; } } [end of patch] -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: [PATCH] Re: blead@25210 on OpenVMS (not good)

2005-07-24 Thread Craig A. Berry
ld not be written for VMS, or a stub routine should be present >either in util.c or vms.c That was fixed in patch #25217: http://public.activestate.com/cgi-bin/perlbrowse?patch=25217 -- ____________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out o

Re: lib/math/bigint/t/mbi_rand needs larger PERL_MBX_SIZE

2005-08-23 Thread Craig A. Berry
pipe implementation, which may already have such improvements in VMS v8.x. In the meantime, modifying the test to have something that is still idiomatic Perl but doesn't require any special casing seems the least annoying alternative (or at least I've been annoying people with patches of th

Re: Need help debugging blead on VMS - keys(%ENV)

2005-08-23 Thread Craig A. Berry
fire up the VMS debugger and step through prime_env_iter() in [.vms]vms.c. It spawns a process to run SHOW LOGICAL * and then parses the output. If you don't see the first one doubled in there, then it must have something to do with how the cache is accessed the first time, probably in hv.c. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: advice needed for lib/File/Copy.t dates not preserved on VMS

2005-08-31 Thread Craig A. Berry
at mtime ought to stay the same. Not sure why that's not working on VMS. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Zlib 2.00_03 / Blead 25366 on VMS + patched vms.c

2005-09-16 Thread Craig A. Berry
y modest attempt to pick apart the pieces of a Unix path spec containing wildcards and put them back together again. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Proposed vmsish changes.

2005-09-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
86 characters can really be used. On ODS-5 systems, 253 >characters can be used. > >vmsish::wide_filename_length; > >The length of a UCS-2 encoded filename. Currently 116 16 bit characters. I >really do not know what Perl would do with one of these, but since I was >looking up the limits, it seemed some thing to add. > >-John >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Personal Opinion Only -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Proposed vmsish changes.

2005-09-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
all_versions'; > >This needs to be a run time instead of a build time setting. Also the rename >method needs to honor it. > >-John >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Personal Opinion Only -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [PATCH] Todo - fix tainting checks

2005-10-06 Thread Craig A. Berry
e >modified by non-privileged users are ignored. The first thing Perl does when it starts up on VMS is disable image privileges. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: maint on testdrive

2005-10-09 Thread Craig A. Berry
p_sys.lis. Searching for the percent sign or <%CC> is usually the quickest way to locate what the compiler has complained about in the very large listing files. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much

Re: blead on VMS on testdrive

2005-10-10 Thread Craig A. Berry
ut >which (if any) machines have filespace accessible to me that is on the local >machine. It looks like all the user disks are served up from spe180, which is in fact a few seconds ahead of spe183. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... get

Re: blead on VMS on testdrive

2005-10-11 Thread Craig A. Berry
l does. The following is on spe180: $ bash -c date Tue Oct 11 09:00:50 EDT 2005 $ show time 11-OCT-2005 08:00:54 This could be a problem in the bash set-up on the testdrive -- I can't reproduce it on my local system. Are you exiting bash before running MMS? That just might do the tric

Re: Patch 25733 -VMS update

2005-10-11 Thread Craig A. Berry
ionality until a real >fix is created. Thanks, applied as change #25740: http://public.activestate.com/cgi-bin/perlbrowse?patch=25740 -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: [patch@25775] Fix exit handling for VMS + vmsify bug

2005-10-14 Thread Craig A. Berry
hat the system exempts >+ * pid = -n - all processes in group (abs(n)) except ... >+ * For now, just lie and say the user has no privileges. >+ */ >+ >+if (pid <= 0) { >+ errno = EPERM; >+ vaxc$errno = SS$_NOPRIV; IMO this should be SETERRNO(E

Re: patch for blead - Perlvms.pod update

2005-10-14 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 9:15 PM -0400 10/14/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >This is an update to Perlvms.pod to the current expected behavior of Perl for >handling exit codes. Thanks, applied as #25760 (though with a couple of typos fixed). -- ____ Craig A. Berry mailto:

Re: [patch@blead] perlport.pod

2005-10-14 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 11:48 PM -0400 10/14/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >First sets of updates to perlport.pod. Thanks, applied at #25761. >More will be needed later. I agree, but this is a good start. -- ____ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getti

Re: [patch@25763] Fix VMS error/exit handling, update kill function

2005-10-16 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 2:30 AM -0400 10/16/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >Reworked, retested, and resubmitted. And committed. As #25772. Thanks. -- ____ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than ge

Re: [patch@25784] enable open(FOO, "child.pl foo|") on VMS

2005-10-18 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 2:43 PM -0400 10/18/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >This adds a functionality to Perl on VMS. >Also start of internal enhancements to rmsexpand(). Thanks, applied as #25801. -- ____ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of

Re: [patch@25809]restore documented exit behavior

2005-10-20 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 6:21 PM -0400 10/20/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >This patch restores the documented and expected behavior for >VMS exit handling, and hopefully explains it a little better. Thanks, applied (with some minor doc edits) as #25810. -- ____ Craig A.

Re: Change 25824: VMS threaded build fixes for things broken in #25783

2005-10-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 2:19 PM -0400 10/22/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >Craig A. Berry wrote: >>Change 25824 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2005/10/22 16:43:40 >> >> VMS threaded build fixes for things broken in #25783 >>- if (eqv && *eqv) Perl_my_chdir(eqv); >>+

Re: Todo issues on VMS:

2005-10-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
he following docs on how this works: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlvms.html#Perl-variables >* The perl5db_pids feature does not work on VMS unless Perl is being run > under the bash shell. The basic issue, IIRC, is that the debugger does not expect an %ENV element to persist after program exit

pipes again (Re: Todo issues on VMS:)

2005-10-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
27;ve never pinned it down and watched it happen in the debugger, is that when we see spurious newlines, it's because a flush has taken place or the buffer has filled up. There is lots and lots of flushing in the Perl test suite; you may just not have as much flushing in what you're doing wit

Re: Change 25824: VMS threaded build fixes for things broken in #25783

2005-10-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 3:48 PM -0400 10/22/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >Craig A. Berry wrote: >>At 2:19 PM -0400 10/22/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >> my_chdir is a macro that will have an extra argument for interpreter >>context in the case of building with threads enabled, but will be >>

Re: Upgrade MakeMaker in maint

2005-10-23 Thread Craig A. Berry
was the day after testdrive went down for 2 weeks. > >OK. 6.30 is in maint. What breaks? What breaks in maint that is non-broken in >blead? It builds ok: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.daily-build.reports/32486 but has a handful of test failures. Most are also in blead, except lib

Re: [patch@25825] Fix st_ino compare to use real data.

2005-10-23 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 5:46 PM -0400 10/23/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >In the pipe creation code, the st_ino check is against the uninitialized copy >instead of the real ino_t. Thanks, applied as #25827. -- ____ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getti

Re: patch@26188 - ext/List/Util/t/p_tainted.t assumes UNIX pathnames

2005-11-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
module. Prepending the './' is probably only necessary in the standalone module build. If concatenating filenames is really necessary, then File::Spec->catdir() is going to be the only portable way of doing it. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

pipes + threads broken in blead on VMS

2005-11-26 Thread Craig A. Berry
no context at all yet. Any suggestions? -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: pipes + threads broken in blead on VMS

2005-11-28 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 12:50 AM +0100 11/28/05, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: >On 11/26/05, Craig A. Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But there are other structures that are pipe-specific, and it seems >> like a good idea to keep the new sanity check that ensures we close a >> pipe and dea

Re: problems building smg

2005-12-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
tics of this PERLSHR image: > Compile-time options: DEBUGGING > Built under VMS > Compiled at Apr 21 2005 13:38:55 > %ENV: >PERLSHR="$5$DKA303:[SYS_UTILITY.PERL586.EXE]PERLSHR.EXE" >PERL_ROOT="$5$DKA303:[SYS_UTILITY.PERL586.]" > @INC: >perl_root:[lib.VMS_AXP.5_8_6] >perl_root:[lib] >perl_root:[lib.site_perl.VMS_AXP] >perl_root:[lib.site_perl] >/perl_root/lib/site_perl >. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: problems building smg

2005-12-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
ctly in perl5db.pl. -- ____________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: patch@26253 Allow embedded new lines passed through to commands

2005-12-07 Thread Craig A. Berry
Wed Dec 7 22:12:08 2005 Thanks, applied as #26298. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: patch@26253 lib/File/Spec/VMS.pm

2005-12-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
needs changing, or it might be both. See: http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/vmsperl/2003-09/msg00053.html -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: patch@26310 - Major step for > 256 char paths on VMS

2005-12-09 Thread Craig A. Berry
so there appears to be a constant in Perl.h which may need adjusting. > Which one? -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: LWP::Simple gone with 5.8.6?

2005-12-13 Thread Craig A. Berry
P.pm There are a number of dependencies, so it is a bit of a hassle, but it should work. -- ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: patch@26310 - Major step for > 256 char paths on VMS

2005-12-13 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 3:23 PM -0600 12/9/05, Craig A. Berry wrote: >At 2:08 PM -0500 12/9/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >>Somewhat of a shakeup to the code to remove most of the dependencies on >>expecting file specifications to be limited to 256 characters. >> >>Most references to the na

Re: patch@26310 - Major step for > 256 char paths on VMS

2005-12-13 Thread Craig A. Berry
implementation so it does for the posix-style dates what it's already doing for ATR$C_REVDATE, or we could beef up the wrapper around decc$utime so it does the time shift if requested. -- Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... g

Re: patch@26310 - Major step for > 256 char paths on VMS

2005-12-13 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 10:08 PM -0500 12/13/05, John E. Malmberg wrote: >By the way, what options are you passing to the CONFIGURE.COM? > >I enabled threads, but not upcalls. > $ @configure -"Dusedevel" -"Dusevmsdebug" -"Duseithreads" -"des" -- ______

Re: Perforce strangeness (was Re: funny directory names in Pod::Simple)

2005-12-14 Thread Craig A. Berry
is just copy what Cygwin and Darwin already do, namely have installperl put things in lib/pods rather than lib/pod and make the corresponding change to vms/descrip_mms.template, which should just be a global replace of [.lib.pod] with [.lib.pods]. I'll work up a patch. -- __

Re: Perforce strangeness (was Re: funny directory names in Pod::Simple)

2005-12-14 Thread Craig A. Berry
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig A. Berry) wrote: > At 7:51 AM +0100 12/14/05, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > >On 12/14/05, John E. Malmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > $MMK realclean > >> > >> deletes [.lib.pod]*.p

Re: patch@26310 - Major step for > 256 char paths on VMS

2005-12-14 Thread Craig A. Berry
oday did the rest of the rollback happen. We can put this code back in once you post your changes to vms/vmsish.h, but for now we need to be consistent. I don't know for sure that this is what caused the stack corruption. I was seeing accvios until change #26358. --

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